Awesome video :-) I was wondering how to connect the Servos with higher voltage than my board... It's pretty clear now, that they have a dedicated power source, separate to the board... Thanks for sharing this... :-)
Thanks for this guide. I can vouch for anyone looking to build a similar system. If you follow this guide everything should work as expected. I just got done with my clearpath cnc build based off of the OX CNC Platform and I used similar Clearpath Motors and my machine is up and running and this is my first CNC build. The clearpaths and this video makes the process very easy. Thanks to Neo7CNC for his help.
Belay my last comment. I read somewhere that there is a problem with the setup for the SD. I had already did the auto tune and it was fine so I assumed it was right. After not getting any running of the motor I retried the setup and redid the step and direction. It now works with the C10. Dan
In a nut shell White: port1,pin2 Black: port1, pin3 Brown Yellow Orange:ground Green+5v Red:port1,pin10 Blue:port1,pin17. In Mach3 Motor Outputs X axis, Step Pin=3, Dir Pin=2. Input #1 is port1, pin 10. OEM Trigger#1 is port1, pin10. Output Signal, Enable1 is port1, pin17 I was so confused at first until I realized you were using the word “Port” in place of “Pin”. Once I let that go, I was able to fallow through the rest of the vid. Eventually got mine up and running. Can you comment on how you were able to look at the Clearpath manual and come to this conclusion. Even now knowing how to wire it up, I’m still confused by the manual. Thanks for getting me up and running!
@@joeygonzo oh wow this was a while ago, thanks for asking, I started upgrading to ballscrews and linear rails, then 2 years ago I wound up getting a tormach 770m when they came out, made more sense for the aluminum products I make, about 6 months ago, I sold the router to a friend and a few days ago I just got my new tormach mx1100 up and running!
Great video. I'm still confused as to wiring the motors because the inputs in the servo documentation are A+ A- B+ B-. In the documentation for step and direction signals it says to use input A and B. How is that wired?
This "new stuff" Is amazing me. I last ran a monster 1992, 516 Shoda twin table 4mains w/4 pigs w/Fanuc 18 controls and Bobcad CAD/CAM in 2008. Needless to say the how controls have shrunk and ease of set up step vs servo's is bowing my mind. I now want to build a 6'x12' capacity w/tool changer....no wonder the mkt. for used commercial units have crashed.
I'm using the mach 3 usb controller/breakout board how would I go about wiring the servo motor to that board? I don't have a big parallel port like you do in the video
HI. Code 1002 is rewin not feed hold. I mean.... and. Is possible Connect. Position compleet pin in mach ? I have problem with Delay of servos in working.
Please explain how your homing is accomplished, and I cant seem to make mach3 move the servo, thanks for making video I learned a lot but still need information on homing and recognition for mach3
I CAN'T MAKE OUT WHAT WIRE IS WHERE IT WOULD BE A BETTER CAMERA SHOT FROM STRAIGHT UP ABOVE BUT I HAVE WATCHED BUT I AM A VERY SKILLED MACHINIST BUT I AM ILLITERATE WITH THIS WIRING MY GANTRY IS DONE MECHANICALLY BUT IS NOT RUNNING BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO HOOK UP THE WIRES
Great video! I am having an issue with one of my Clearpath Servos going into an error state (error #73 specifically). However, when it errors out, my machine continues to run (with one dead axis). This ruins my work piece! I'm wondering, if HLFB is properly configured, will it Feed Hold the motors if there is an internal fault on the motor, and not an external fault such as a limit switch, crash, over-torque, etc?
This setup was running Win7 with Mach3. I'm using both a USB Smooth Stepper and AcornCNC with Win 10 now. The C10 boards just work with a printer port which I wanted to get away from (nothing wrong with it other than age). The USB Smooth Stepper and AcornCNC boards still speak step and direction signals just like the C10 allowed.
Hi, still struggling with these... First off the setup Program doesn`t complete... it just stops at 41 % on all motors. secondly and quite odd: the smallest Servo has lots of torque, one cannot force it to stopby hand, while the bigger one on x can be stopped using your bare hands on the spindle?? I hope this is just due the fact of the setup not beeing completed? Anyone can describe how the setup did take place once started? Did your motors jerk/squeel, accel and decel right from the biginning.. or did they keep relatively quiet till aprox half the setup time? Mine do just some very faint noises like sorta sparkling water in a bottle and a bit of sqeeking ... than nothing.. Any help would be greatly apreciated. flo
I have the green blinking light that s shows that the clearpath servo is enabled. I have the white wire connected to pin2 the yellow and brown wires to com and the black wire to pin3 of the C 10. I have mach3 setup for the x axis enabled with pin 2 as dir and pin 3 as step but I get no movement. The display so movement but the motor is locked and doesn't move. Any idea/s
I connected 3 clearpaths with this C10S (updated version of C10). when switched ON, The servos get in the holding position, servo status light starts flashing green on all servos, ports and pins checked all seem good. Any help will be much appreciated.
Hi. I have one qestion.I have buy robot KUKA RC 22/50 and i like to know is it posible to make work like cnc machine becouse the softver i very old but everything is working with 6 servo motors. Can i control them with some controlers becouse all motors are from 3 kw to 5 kw and its preaty big robot.Thanks Zlatko
Hi, I am a hobby guy that also loves cnc machines. I have built for my shop a mill and a small router. I always wanted to convert my router from steppers to servos and I am doing that now. The problem is that the change requires a big money that I don’t have and I am trying to build my own servo motors from DC motors . My question is: Could I use this C10 board with any quadrature servo motors or they need to be those special from Neo7CNC ? thanks
Hi, mine do not auto-tune at all !! The auto-tune seems to start and does something apparently (very quiet/ no move detectable but some barely audible squeels) until 41% of the tuneing process. then it remains at 41% ... i waitet 30 mins no change. same on all axs, tried different pc - same... Any idea? greets Flo
No, the 1 inch is from the Mach setup, counts per revolution multiplied by leadscrew pitch gives counts per inch or CPI, it's under Mach/ Motor Tuning screen.
Hello, I've flowed your instructions very carefully but I can't seem to get the servos to move. When trying to jog in mach3 I see the position change but the servos don't turn. The servos do go enabled and flash green. They also hold their position. Any suggestions? thanks for your time!
The way the standard printer port "talks" will not allow that to work. To get away from the need for the printer port you could use a board called a USB smooth stepper. Does the same function (and more) but communicates with USB. There's an Ethernet version too. Thanks for the question.
First sorry for my english I`m planing a 5 axis cnc machine, do you know if the crearpath can connected to a C32 - Dual Port Multifunction CNC Board? 2x X 1x Y 1x Z 1x A 1x C Thanks in advance from Canary Islands
It looks like you can attach a smooth stepper directly to it, so with that added, there shouldn't be an issue. Looks like you''d need the C32 as well as a Smooth Stepper. Double check with the vendor before spending the $$ though. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the video. I am building a CNC router using the Clearpath servo's and I want to construct my own power and data cables. I cant tell and I cant locate what cable is necessary for data and power. I think the data cable is 22AWG/8 conductor shielded(?) and the power cable looks like its only 2 conductor. Can you check this fore me? Thank you.
Love your videos. I have a 34 NEMA servo motor CPM-SDSK-3432S-RLN from Clearpath and a DQ542MS driver from Wantai That has 6 wire ports and the Clearpath has 8 wires. Unable to figure out what the 2 extra wires are used for. Any suggestions?
Thank you, I’m new to all this. If you will educate me on this, when he says. “The yellow and the brown are connected together and put into the common.” What is the common mean? I am not using a C10 board I am using the C25S - SMOOTH STEPPER TERMINAL BOARD, having trouble figuring out which wires go into which port. From what I have figured out the green wire is 5v but what does the other wires go. I am using a add on break out board for my Ethernet Smooth Stepper. Sorry for the trouble, unable to find any info on these connections.
I am not familiar to that board so I am not sure how to set that one up, sorry I cant be much help, I plan on using the 6 axis breakout board from automationtechnologiesinc that has everything on it ready to go, its expensive like 600$ but expandable to no end
Do you think you could run servo motor on one axis and run steppers on the others? I ask, because I would like to upgrade as I go. Z axis driver went out on me so I was going to upgrade z and then others later.
You are not alone. If the instructor would quit trying to OVER explain EVERY single thought that comes into his mind, just maybe he could make this simple. As it is, he OVER teaches, detours frequently, and never "Cuts to the chase". Thus many of us get confused. Sadly, this is a VERY common malady on MOST CZcams videos. Also, this instructor uses an innate monotone rhetoric; and after a while many of us just cant take it any longer; because it becomes boring and irritating. It is tantamount to trying to hear a person read a telephone directory; and with each new number; he tries to tell the life story of each subscriber; as thoughwe were dying to know it. Oh indeed yes. Finally; this instructor has never learned the old axiom; that "Less is more" when teaching. For the brain is NOT a computer. We need it slower but simple. It can be done. Watch Norm Abram on the "New Yankee Workshop". He can teach a novice how to build a complex wooden device in 18 minutes from start to finish. Oh yes. His producer Mr Morach would fire him if he did what MOST You-Tuber's do. Oh well.
Awesome video :-) I was wondering how to connect the Servos with higher voltage than my board... It's pretty clear now, that they have a dedicated power source, separate to the board... Thanks for sharing this... :-)
Thanks for this guide. I can vouch for anyone looking to build a similar system. If you follow this guide everything should work as expected. I just got done with my clearpath cnc build based off of the OX CNC Platform and I used similar Clearpath Motors and my machine is up and running and this is my first CNC build. The clearpaths and this video makes the process very easy. Thanks to Neo7CNC for his help.
Belay my last comment. I read somewhere that there is a problem with the setup for the SD. I had already did the auto tune and it was fine so I assumed it was right. After not getting any running of the motor I retried the setup and redid the step and direction. It now works with the C10.
Dan
What is breakers servo
In a nut shell
White: port1,pin2
Black: port1, pin3
Brown Yellow Orange:ground
Green+5v
Red:port1,pin10
Blue:port1,pin17.
In Mach3 Motor Outputs X axis, Step Pin=3, Dir Pin=2.
Input #1 is port1, pin 10.
OEM Trigger#1 is port1, pin10.
Output Signal, Enable1 is port1, pin17
I was so confused at first until I realized you were using the word “Port” in place of “Pin”.
Once I let that go, I was able to fallow through the rest of the vid. Eventually got mine up and running. Can you comment on how you were able to look at the Clearpath manual and come to this conclusion. Even now knowing how to wire it up, I’m still confused by the manual.
Thanks for getting me up and running!
Thank you so so so much for these videos, I am upgrading my CNC router parts machine to nema34 clearpaths soon, these videos are so helpful!
Thanks for watching!
how did it go
@@joeygonzo oh wow this was a while ago, thanks for asking, I started upgrading to ballscrews and linear rails, then 2 years ago I wound up getting a tormach 770m when they came out, made more sense for the aluminum products I make, about 6 months ago, I sold the router to a friend and a few days ago I just got my new tormach mx1100 up and running!
Great video. I'm still confused as to wiring the motors because the inputs in the servo documentation are A+ A- B+ B-. In the documentation for step and direction signals it says to use input A and B. How is that wired?
This "new stuff" Is amazing me. I last ran a monster 1992, 516 Shoda twin table 4mains w/4 pigs w/Fanuc 18 controls and Bobcad CAD/CAM in 2008. Needless to say the how controls have shrunk and ease of set up step vs servo's is bowing my mind. I now want to build a 6'x12' capacity w/tool changer....no wonder the mkt. for used commercial units have crashed.
I'm using the mach 3 usb controller/breakout board how would I go about wiring the servo motor to that board? I don't have a big parallel port like you do in the video
HI. Code 1002 is rewin not feed hold. I mean.... and. Is possible Connect. Position compleet pin in mach ? I have problem with Delay of servos in working.
Thank You. I was looking for this exact information.
+Jason Evans Great! glad to help and thanks for watching!
Sweet!! Thanks for sharing, very helpful info.
I would like to use it on the stop for chop saw
Please explain how your homing is accomplished, and I cant seem to make mach3 move the servo, thanks for making video I learned a lot but still need information on homing and recognition for mach3
Do the motors account for backlash when tuning or you still have to set backlash in mach3?
Thanks .
I CAN'T MAKE OUT WHAT WIRE IS WHERE IT WOULD BE A BETTER CAMERA SHOT FROM STRAIGHT UP ABOVE BUT I HAVE WATCHED BUT I AM A VERY SKILLED MACHINIST BUT I AM ILLITERATE WITH THIS WIRING MY GANTRY IS DONE MECHANICALLY BUT IS NOT RUNNING BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO HOOK UP THE WIRES
Find kind of interesting that you still using a serial printer port in stead of an USB Driver Board!! But never the less nice work.
+Migueldeservantes I know... I know... I use what I have. I did get a USB smooth stepper board so that's a step in the right direction. :)
Do you need to connect the encoders? because i hav a problem with position.... help me please Mr
Great video!
I am having an issue with one of my Clearpath Servos going into an error state (error #73 specifically). However, when it errors out, my machine continues to run (with one dead axis). This ruins my work piece!
I'm wondering, if HLFB is properly configured, will it Feed Hold the motors if there is an internal fault on the motor, and not an external fault such as a limit switch, crash, over-torque, etc?
WHAT OPERATING SYSTEM ARE YOU USING. I HAVE XP AND THE CLEARPATH DOES NOT HAVE A DRIVER FOR IT. I RUN IT WITH MACH3 THAT IS WHY I AM TRYING XP
This setup was running Win7 with Mach3. I'm using both a USB Smooth Stepper and AcornCNC with Win 10 now. The C10 boards just work with a printer port which I wanted to get away from (nothing wrong with it other than age). The USB Smooth Stepper and AcornCNC boards still speak step and direction signals just like the C10 allowed.
Hi,
still struggling with these...
First off the setup Program doesn`t complete... it just stops at 41 % on all motors.
secondly and quite odd: the smallest Servo has lots of torque, one cannot force it to stopby hand, while the bigger one on x can be stopped using your bare hands on the spindle??
I hope this is just due the fact of the setup not beeing completed?
Anyone can describe how the setup did take place once started? Did your motors jerk/squeel, accel and decel right from the biginning.. or did they keep relatively quiet till aprox half the setup time?
Mine do just some very faint noises like sorta sparkling water in a bottle and a bit of sqeeking ... than nothing..
Any help would be greatly apreciated.
flo
What else is needed to go to 4 axis? Is there a C10 equivalent for 4 axis? Thanks for the videos.
I have the green blinking light that s shows that the clearpath servo is enabled. I have the white wire connected to pin2 the yellow and brown wires to com and the black wire to pin3 of the C 10. I have mach3 setup for the x axis enabled with pin 2 as dir and pin 3 as step but I get no movement. The display so movement but the motor is locked and doesn't move. Any idea/s
I connected 3 clearpaths with this C10S (updated version of C10). when switched ON, The servos get in the holding position, servo status light starts flashing green on all servos, ports and pins checked all seem good. Any help will be much appreciated.
On C10 board input side, for the HLFB, did you set the jumper to pull up or pull down?
Thank you.
Hi ive nema 24 3.3nm 467oz wire it all up and it won.t work but one of the drivers is getting hot HELP
Hi. I have one qestion.I have buy robot KUKA RC 22/50 and i like to know is it posible to make work like cnc machine becouse the softver i very old but everything is working with 6 servo motors. Can i control them with some controlers becouse all motors are from 3 kw to 5 kw and its preaty big robot.Thanks
Zlatko
Hi, I am a hobby guy that also loves cnc machines. I have built for my shop a mill and a small router. I always wanted to convert my router from steppers to servos and I am doing that now. The problem is that the change requires a big money that I don’t have and I am trying to build my own servo motors from DC motors . My question is: Could I use this C10 board with any quadrature servo motors or they need to be those special from Neo7CNC ? thanks
Missing to see the mach3 motor tuning with the steps/rev and speed
Great vid, but how did you handle the motor tuning in mach3? It seems you are handling that in the ClearPath MSP. Thanks.
Motor tuning is done via clearpath software not mach3.
Sorry I did not mention the actual problem, the servos don't move at all when jog, let alone G-code.
Were you able to solve you problem?
Hi,
mine do not auto-tune at all !! The auto-tune seems to start and does something apparently (very quiet/ no move detectable but some barely audible squeels) until 41% of the tuneing process. then it remains at 41% ... i waitet 30 mins no change.
same on all axs, tried different pc - same...
Any idea?
greets
Flo
I wonder which is more force servomoto 600w or motor dc 600w?
great vid but Followed all of these steps verbatim. mach3 resets but the motor wont jog and the light is still solid amber.
Did you tune the servos and set them to step and direction mode? Email me the specifics of your setup and I'll try to help.
Hi, When you tell the machine to move 1 inch, are they using the built in encoders for that? and are they dead on?
No, the 1 inch is from the Mach setup, counts per revolution multiplied by leadscrew pitch gives counts per inch or CPI, it's under Mach/ Motor Tuning screen.
I have omron sjd junma servos
Hello, I've flowed your instructions very carefully but I can't seem to get the servos to move. When trying to jog in mach3 I see the position change but the servos don't turn. The servos do go enabled and flash green. They also hold their position. Any suggestions? thanks for your time!
I am having exactly the same issue. Where I can find solution? Haralds EU
Hi. What is the model of the motors you are using? Thanks!
New to all this CNC build, but will a USB to 24 pin parallel port cable work with the C10 board.
The way the standard printer port "talks" will not allow that to work. To get away from the need for the printer port you could use a board called a USB smooth stepper. Does the same function (and more) but communicates with USB. There's an Ethernet version too. Thanks for the question.
If you move the axis manually while disabled, is your zero reference lost when you reenable?
ref home all again
First sorry for my english
I`m planing a 5 axis cnc machine, do you know if the crearpath can connected to a C32 - Dual Port Multifunction CNC Board?
2x X
1x Y
1x Z
1x A
1x C
Thanks in advance from Canary Islands
It looks like you can attach a smooth stepper directly to it, so with that added, there shouldn't be an issue. Looks like you''d need the C32 as well as a Smooth Stepper. Double check with the vendor before spending the $$ though. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the video. I am building a CNC router using the Clearpath servo's and I want to construct my own power and data cables. I cant tell and I cant locate what cable is necessary for data and power. I think the data cable is 22AWG/8 conductor shielded(?) and the power cable looks like its only 2 conductor. Can you check this fore me? Thank you.
Contact Teknic... They are the ones who actually build the clearpath motors and their cables...
it is possible that use this board for four axis cnc
It is. Thanks for watching
Love your videos. I have a 34 NEMA servo motor CPM-SDSK-3432S-RLN from Clearpath and a DQ542MS driver from Wantai That has 6 wire ports and the Clearpath has 8 wires. Unable to figure out what the 2 extra wires are used for. Any suggestions?
the clearpath servos have built in drivers, you shouldnt need an external driver.
Thank you, I’m new to all this. If you will educate me on this, when he says. “The yellow and the brown are connected together and put into the common.” What is the common mean? I am not using a C10 board I am using the C25S - SMOOTH STEPPER TERMINAL BOARD, having trouble figuring out which wires go into which port. From what I have figured out the green wire is 5v but what does the other wires go. I am using a add on break out board for my Ethernet Smooth Stepper. Sorry for the trouble, unable to find any info on these connections.
I am not familiar to that board so I am not sure how to set that one up, sorry I cant be much help, I plan on using the 6 axis breakout board from automationtechnologiesinc that has everything on it ready to go, its expensive like 600$ but expandable to no end
Do you think you could run servo motor on one axis and run steppers on the others? I ask, because I would like to upgrade as I go. Z axis driver went out on me so I was going to upgrade z and then others later.
Just to add, I am using the cnc4pc breakout board C11GS - Multifunction CNC Board.
I do believe you can mix them. If they are all being controlled with step and direction signals you should be fine.
did you have to buy mach 3 ?
I bought a license many years ago. The trial version limits how many lines of gcode you can run or at least it used to.
I'm so confused! Could you create a schematics? Pls
You are not alone. If the instructor would quit trying to OVER explain EVERY single thought that comes into his mind, just maybe he could make this simple. As it is, he OVER teaches, detours frequently, and never "Cuts to the chase". Thus many of us get confused.
Sadly, this is a VERY common malady on MOST CZcams videos.
Also, this instructor uses an innate monotone rhetoric; and after a while many of us just cant take it any longer; because it becomes boring and irritating. It is tantamount to trying to hear a person read a telephone directory; and with each new number; he tries to tell the life story of each subscriber; as thoughwe were dying to know it. Oh indeed yes.
Finally; this instructor has never learned the old axiom; that "Less is more" when teaching. For the brain is NOT a computer. We need it slower but simple. It can be done. Watch Norm Abram on the "New Yankee Workshop". He can teach a novice how to build a complex wooden device in 18 minutes from start to finish. Oh yes. His producer Mr Morach would fire him if he did what MOST You-Tuber's do.
Oh well.
Tidak ada penjelasan wiring dalam video, board selalu di jauhkan dari kamera, dan penjelasan kurang bermanfaat untuk semua negara.
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Too much talking in my opinion, sorry. Maybe it's a productive peace of criticism.