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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • Is Pia Nalaar, Consul of Revival and a huge horde of Thopter tokens the savior Standard needs to break Sheoldred's grasp? Let's find out!
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    3:59 Match 1
    17:39 Match 2
    34:03 Match 3
    46:22 Match 4
    1:00:04 Match 5
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Komentáře • 132

  • @Zorg947
    @Zorg947 Před 10 měsíci +32

    That first game was nuts. Beating that cascade deck gives me hope.

  • @traviscochran9253
    @traviscochran9253 Před 10 měsíci +51

    23:34 Actually Path of Peril wouldve been a perfect answer to the board state that I do see sometimes played in Standard, seeing that tutor I was expecting that blowout

    • @jackkelley9657
      @jackkelley9657 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Was waiting for the same thing, throw for the goat is definitely not going to do it.

    • @Icameron259
      @Icameron259 Před 10 měsíci +1

      IMO, it's hard to justify a maindeck Path of Peril for Best of 3 unless you have white as well for the cleave mode, as there's just too many common matchups where it doesn't do enough. That might change if the meta settles into a format where this deck along with monored are popular enough, though, and Best of 1 is generally aggro enough that it's good.

    • @traviscochran9253
      @traviscochran9253 Před 10 měsíci

      @Icameron259 Oh for sure, it's not likely or very correct to maindeck, it was just funny that it was technically an option when Seth said there was nothing that could stop him.

  • @viserproductions1
    @viserproductions1 Před 10 měsíci +94

    It's a shame theres no room for jinny fey, she seems like she'd be so strong in this deck but those thopters having haste and flying is probably too important to run her

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před 10 měsíci +70

      Yeah, Jinny Fay is awkward in the deck. It offers more power, but the evasion on the Thopters is really big. I think it might actually be a downgrade overall.

    • @RiKSh4w
      @RiKSh4w Před 10 měsíci +5

      As soon as you replace the thops with cats or dogs, they don't have haste anymore.

    • @shadowfox513
      @shadowfox513 Před 10 měsíci +8

      the cats do have haste, but the evasion is more important.

    • @latinkingzgl
      @latinkingzgl Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yeah i wish we could play Shelly somehow

    • @C._Bradford
      @C._Bradford Před 10 měsíci +1

      Especially with how many ways there are to pump the tokens the extra 1 toughness and power on those cats isn't worth losing flying

  • @Eternalhachiiiiii
    @Eternalhachiiiiii Před 10 měsíci +42

    I always appreciate the deck breakdowns that both you and Crim do, though interestingly enough of all the information presented in the deck tech, I don't see a C/U/R/MR count. Considering the card types are presented twice in the same layout (upper right and lower left), have y'all ever considered finding a spot for card rarity count? With how popular Arena is, I find it interesting that it's not a feature.

    • @dogninja8
      @dogninja8 Před 10 měsíci +3

      It's easy to see in the articles (with decklists), but I agree that it would be nice to add to the videos since I rarely (almost never) read the articles

  • @Mego962
    @Mego962 Před 10 měsíci +21

    I replaced the swiftspear with skrelv and I have had a lot of success like that

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před 10 měsíci +12

      Ohh, I like that idea. Protecting Pia seems helpful.

  • @tdimensional6733
    @tdimensional6733 Před 10 měsíci +24

    I misread this title as 'Naya Pie' and thought this was a food deck
    On another note, though, I will always love aggressive draw decks that play directly into the heart of "I own all of my cards, I'm gonna see all of my cards"

  • @SparkDragon42
    @SparkDragon42 Před 10 měsíci +19

    22:30 it was, in fact, lethal unless they had instant speed draw in response to phyrexian arena because being at 1 life means death with phyrexian arena even with sheoldred on the board :)

    • @Atmapalazzo
      @Atmapalazzo Před 10 měsíci +3

      I saw that and then when the opponent tutored and Seth starts listing 3 mana board wipes I thought for sure it was going to be path of peril.

  • @xchronox0
    @xchronox0 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Not only does Sheoldred not interact with your 'card draw', but you also ignore the hand size limit, giving you plenty of instant options during your opponents turn.

  • @ObeseN1NJA
    @ObeseN1NJA Před 10 měsíci +16

    After putting some hours into the deck, I really think research desk is the best enabler in the deck. Ive been on 4 copies and it feels so much better now.

  • @FlawlessRythym
    @FlawlessRythym Před 10 měsíci +3

    Seth and CGB putting up Naya tokens on the same day. Love this deck, it's super cool to see it from both sides.

  • @andrecarr6250
    @andrecarr6250 Před 10 měsíci +24

    I wish Rocco would catch on like Pia did, he is really fun too

    • @AutkastKain
      @AutkastKain Před 10 měsíci +2

      Probably doesn't see play cuz it gives your opponents cards

    • @colyrne
      @colyrne Před 10 měsíci

      He slipped under my radar, but after a few matches against him in Historic Brawl he actually looks very resilient and fun

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před 10 měsíci +20

      Yeah, I tried Rocco in a Food Fight deck. It's a fun card, but giving the opponent a free card each turn is risky.

    • @majordude83
      @majordude83 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I like playing a couple Roccos with my Pias, even if it's risky. If you can get both in play, you get a lot more value from the free exiled cards than your opponent.

    • @YourAdHere4
      @YourAdHere4 Před 10 měsíci

      been testing a variant of this shell with 2x rocco and 4x bunnicorn, gotta tune up the deck a fair amount but it is a very fun time when it pops

  • @scogel8911
    @scogel8911 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Pollen-shield hare has been putting in a lot of work for me. With the amount of tokens you get from Pia, Virtue, and Announcement it does a lot of work. Plus the adventure side can one shot if you go wide at all.

    • @winssports4830
      @winssports4830 Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah i think that cards underrated I've even been trying it in modern lol. Although fury.

  • @mikemoyer8162
    @mikemoyer8162 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I'm so happy to see casualty ob nixilis making a little return. That's kind of a pet card of mine and I've been seeing it showing back up again.

  • @prodbyscrawny
    @prodbyscrawny Před 10 měsíci

    that first game was something else, kept me on the edge of my seat!

  • @MistaZiggy
    @MistaZiggy Před 10 měsíci +2

    G1 M2 you had Destroy Evil in exile which could get copied by Chandra to annihilate their board.

  • @brendo1138
    @brendo1138 Před 10 měsíci

    Kind of sets up cars draw with lots of red, loved playing this deck for the past week

  • @KingCaboose
    @KingCaboose Před 10 měsíci +5

    Where is SaffronOlive? Is he alright? Is he safe?

  • @jeremymalepeai10
    @jeremymalepeai10 Před 10 měsíci

    this whole video has me excited to see all kind of new decks

  • @PhyrexianSnom
    @PhyrexianSnom Před 10 měsíci

    Beautiful. Just beautiful

  • @dennisk4783
    @dennisk4783 Před 10 měsíci +8

    This looks like a fun deck! One of the few that makes me consider playing constructed Magic.

  • @aahansen82
    @aahansen82 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Win rate of 69%, so "I guess this deck is nice at least" without any hint of innuendo tone. So smoothe!

  • @dcrow9650
    @dcrow9650 Před 10 měsíci +8

    I play a Boros Version of this deck, because I don't had all of the card. This is a very fun deck. I called mine Pia Anthem.

  • @Crusina
    @Crusina Před 10 měsíci

    My version was a jeskai one with lots of legendaries, exile draw, and battles.
    Worked perfectly.

  • @jonaslamont6831
    @jonaslamont6831 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Seems like jetmir might be a good finisher as well! +3/+0 double strike and trample in most cases seems pretty big

  • @noesunyoutuber7680
    @noesunyoutuber7680 Před 10 měsíci

    I've been considering building a Boros tokens deck in EDH for a while, and I think this video has pushed me towards Pia as commander.

    • @rylanchampion5972
      @rylanchampion5972 Před 10 měsíci

      I did that and if you put in a phyrexian Altar or an inspirering statuary it becomes a make your own Prosper. But the thopter feel better because not only can you use them for mana but they also become damage and you can sac them to scull lamp and draw carfs

  • @Ih8appls
    @Ih8appls Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hm.. Pia Tokens. PIA TOKens. Piatok in my language means Friday. And you uploaded this video on a Friday 😁
    I feel a strange sense of ...strangeness from the coincidence lining up to this moment.

  • @brianhall7325
    @brianhall7325 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Do you think there’s space for pollen shield hare? It pumps the thopters and if you cast the adventure side it enters from exile

  • @panzerswineflu
    @panzerswineflu Před 8 měsíci +1

    I really liked old scute swarm and thought about a 3 blind mice copy deck but this might be looking better. Though i only every play single games

  • @Atmapalazzo
    @Atmapalazzo Před 10 měsíci +11

    The one problem I have with this list is knockout blow. Hitting it off of an impulse is more-or-less useless.
    Edit: also watching Seth get shocked instead of pitching excess lands to ob was difficult

    • @seththeace6217
      @seththeace6217 Před 10 měsíci

      It's really good against red aggro tbh

    • @Atmapalazzo
      @Atmapalazzo Před 10 měsíci

      @seththeace6217 I haven't played the matchup enough to form an opinion on who is favored, but regardless of that, it should really remove knockout blow. If it's a good matchup, then you can shore up bad matchups instead or just add removal that is less specific. If it's a bad matchup, then it needs a card to fix the matchup that doesn't work against its strategy.

    • @cha0sniper
      @cha0sniper Před 9 měsíci

      It's not *that* bad to hit off of an Impulse, no worse than Chandra is. (first time I brought her in from the sideboard, I exiled both copies with my first two impulses. Was rough lol)
      In the matchups you want it in, if you can force them to not attack into knockout blow for a couple of turns until it goes away, that's still a win for you.

    • @Atmapalazzo
      @Atmapalazzo Před 9 měsíci

      @cha0sniper it's only ever going to be active for one turn, and it's always better to have your removal have extra functionality and to avoid hyper restrictive removal when you're an impulse deck.

  • @Dot_Eleven
    @Dot_Eleven Před 10 měsíci +1

    Any room for Queen Allenal in this deck or would it feel like a "win more" card? Yeah, no evasion, but getting a 1/1 blocker in addition to your 1/1 thopter sounds like it'd be nice.

  • @jugularstab
    @jugularstab Před 10 měsíci

    24:40 Thop! Thop, he's already dead!

  • @NightdrifterDK
    @NightdrifterDK Před 10 měsíci

    This Pia deck looks so sweet

  • @hkp9257
    @hkp9257 Před 10 měsíci

    Any idea on how to change out Questing Druid and all the green lands?

  • @welcomehome7247
    @welcomehome7247 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Why aren’t the channel lands in the mana base?

  • @jellysandjamz250
    @jellysandjamz250 Před 10 měsíci

    What do you think of sunset revelry in the side board for agro decks?

  • @KebbieG
    @KebbieG Před 10 měsíci +2

    Why didn't you add the new adventure rabbit? It is seeing play in the Pioneer version and it is a powerhouse.

  • @papaflowers5726
    @papaflowers5726 Před 10 měsíci

    I wish questing druid was questing dryad. Quirion dryad was such a house back then, and the nod would have been fun.

  • @jozefkeresturi2139
    @jozefkeresturi2139 Před 10 měsíci

    Is there a room for a Jetmir fun one off? I fell in love with him when New Cappena dropped.

  • @homebrewed
    @homebrewed Před 10 měsíci

    Wonder if one or two Blazing Crescendo would give some reach + exile as well - Could be a sneaky punch!

  • @SlayerMiniatures
    @SlayerMiniatures Před 10 měsíci

    Oh this would be sweet in modern too!!

  • @rylanchampion5972
    @rylanchampion5972 Před 10 měsíci

    Do you think the sword of forge and frontier is a good add. It's a repeatable source of card draw and Exile as well

  • @Botanick13
    @Botanick13 Před 10 měsíci

    I am playing Pia in some form since Aftermath (R/W/g with Rocco, Fay and Darien, explorer with og Eldraine cards, Saheeli+Tezzeret Jeskai etc.) and this deck works best so far (I play it with Pollen-Shield hare) and I love how it plays down, but it is not Sheoldred beater it end up like 27th on last tournament with huge black dominance and that was when black did not care about this deck. After this get bit more popular, everyone will just sideboard some -/- for all creatures or Brotherhood's End which takes down Thopthers rly well.
    But most fun standard deck from wilds of Eldraine by far

  • @Nopenotyou
    @Nopenotyou Před 10 měsíci

    I really like this deck, but I collect slowly enough where there’s a decent chance the next rotation will happen before I could finish it out. Trying to brew a “rotation proof” version

  • @cooljoe500
    @cooljoe500 Před 10 měsíci +3

    23:40 path of peril would have killed you :)

  • @zoeyzeebra
    @zoeyzeebra Před 10 měsíci

    This deck is why i run main deck sweepers in my standard decks.

  • @daktastik
    @daktastik Před 10 měsíci +1

    Nice

  • @Cm-fh2yf
    @Cm-fh2yf Před 10 měsíci +1

    I have played a ton of mob nixilis the card is really good

  • @Crusina
    @Crusina Před 10 měsíci

    I have been playing witb her for months. She is a very powrful and slept on card.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah, I think Pia is pretty underrated at this point.

  • @veeclash4157
    @veeclash4157 Před 9 měsíci

    Looks like fun. Might give this a go. Thopters win?

  • @mcfluffy52
    @mcfluffy52 Před 10 měsíci

    I know this does not matter at all but its funny how you sequenced the cards at 58:52 in the complete opposite order of the way to get the most value. Missed a thopter and +1/+1 counter if you played druid -> pia -> land. Some true Seth gaming right there lol.

  • @derek61806
    @derek61806 Před 10 měsíci

    Thopter tokens have haste, so M2 21:00 left damage on the table by choosing to not attack. Deck is faster than perhaps folks give it credit? Love the content, as always, Seth❤❤

  • @IC3RTIF1EDI
    @IC3RTIF1EDI Před 10 měsíci +1

    Tried this deck on Arena ... got wrecked every game.

  • @JJ-it8cq
    @JJ-it8cq Před 10 měsíci

    I know the big thing is no black but I'm already thinking Mardue historic version of this deck with prosper lol

  • @blueredlover1060
    @blueredlover1060 Před 10 měsíci

    Would this deck want 1 or 2 Jetmir?

  • @mr_happygolucky7095
    @mr_happygolucky7095 Před 10 měsíci

    Why is their no arena deck list?

  • @kosche99
    @kosche99 Před 10 měsíci

    "we need to be aggro" - first combat damage turn 6... xD

  • @veeclash4157
    @veeclash4157 Před 9 měsíci

    I dunno why you didn’t double destroy evil on the two desecrators in game 1? Feels like more certain removal than creating two knight tokens to stop one of two menace monsters!

  • @RevnaVarea
    @RevnaVarea Před 10 měsíci

    Oh man, meathook in this standard would utterly crush this deck lol.

  • @nerdywayfinder1827
    @nerdywayfinder1827 Před 9 měsíci

    Watching mono black get GOT is so satisfying. I can't be the only one absolutely sick of loosing simply bc Shieldred exists.

  • @MsPoopyinthepotty
    @MsPoopyinthepotty Před 10 měsíci

    So it’s “naya” but really just boros with the lightest green splash of questing Druid, which is half red

  • @mvilatusell
    @mvilatusell Před 10 měsíci

    In match 1, game 2, turn 4, why doesn't he play Pia before the Questing Druid instead of playing QD + wedding announcement?

  • @haggleboggle
    @haggleboggle Před 10 měsíci +1

    Does destroy evil just... not exist seth my man?

  • @justinspice3599
    @justinspice3599 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Black sweeper for 3 that would have won them the game: Path of Peril, they probably wouldn’t run it main board tho

  • @jonparks2995
    @jonparks2995 Před 10 měsíci

    Trying this deck out, not sure how you have success with so few lands .

  • @nomadichero12
    @nomadichero12 Před 10 měsíci

    The curve is so low you can play most of the cards you exile so they usually aren't wasted and it's good at going wide and tall. So sick

  • @DeathSpeach
    @DeathSpeach Před 10 měsíci

    Here I thought Seth played this deck because it won (or to 4) a recent event

  • @Hanmacx
    @Hanmacx Před 10 měsíci

    Use Pia with Urza in Jeskai Thopter Legends

  • @dracish123456789
    @dracish123456789 Před 10 měsíci

    Still here to promote my agatha transformation station. A RG deck based around the march of the machine transform phyrexian cards

  • @claytonhanson6438
    @claytonhanson6438 Před 10 měsíci

    Hey seth, random question. Does your talking through each game, essentially to just yourself, ever affect you playing magic IRL? Like do you ever catch yourself narrating games when your playing tabletop? Lol

  • @eugenequek6797
    @eugenequek6797 Před 10 měsíci

    we are in a world where mono black looks so outclassed...

  • @markocelenkovic
    @markocelenkovic Před 9 měsíci

    Why do you have so many green sources? Your only green card was 4 Questing Druids, which weren't really important to the deck (it was mostly Seek the Beast). It just seems like a little much.

  • @chocolatepiegames3617
    @chocolatepiegames3617 Před 10 měsíci

    No Rocco? 🤔

  • @Chrixs00
    @Chrixs00 Před 10 měsíci

    I would have double blocked the Adeline

  • @Alikaoz
    @Alikaoz Před 10 měsíci

    I can't believe Seth lost to the Rhyme Minister of the UK

  • @scienceguy1165
    @scienceguy1165 Před 10 měsíci

    Why not add rocco? He exiles cards and gives you counters and food

  • @arcanearcturus
    @arcanearcturus Před 10 měsíci

    I like this deck but Vampire tribal with cauldron is also really fun with bloodtithe harvesters, Thrillseekers, and Olivia’s attendants. Plus with vampire socialite you get counters on all your vampires to fling them at your opponents it’s so fun

    • @Eric-pn9ml
      @Eric-pn9ml Před 10 měsíci

      Vampire tribal has been my pet project in standard for a long while now. Mine is a grixis build I call blood bank. Here's the current list. 4x Voldaren Epicure 4x Annihilating Glare 4x Voldaren Bloodcaster 4x Vampire Socialite 4x Blood tithe Harvester 4x Edgar Markov 3x falkenrath Forbear 4x Corpse Appraiser 3x Florian Voldaren Scion 2x Sorin the mirthless 2x Anje Maid Dishonor Land package is 3 swamp 1 mountain takenuma sokenzan 4 blackcleave cliffs 2 sulfurous springs 2 Xanders lounge 4 secluded courtyard 4 Voldaren estate. It's a fun build that provides a lot of skill expression/decision making when compared to most other aggro decks

  • @PhetaFox
    @PhetaFox Před 10 měsíci

    Pia Nayaar

  • @BobNinjaCat
    @BobNinjaCat Před 10 měsíci

    In Match 1, we're both probably sharing a thought on why the opponent didn't burn the Invasion of Alara, especially when they got that second copy out. The Pia and Thopter weren't going to to out-speed your opponent, and the Invasion of Alara would have done the same work that them targeting the thopter and Pia would have done, except with more value.
    Match 2, mono-black would have needed to open a consistent removal hand, something a competent player would have known. I get the feeling that that opponent saw that mono-black was popular/over-represented and assumed they could get free wins from it. Problem is, it's a format old and current stats haven't updated for the current meta. The jund piles are a lot more consistent and much more effective at closing a game.
    Match 3, that jund pile combined with you getting flooded just felt really bad. I think your jund match-ups are a 50/50 under neutral conditions.
    Match 4 looked like a neat deck. Probably needs some refinement, but it definitely has potential.
    Match 5 that was way too reactive for a control pile. Early game spells that generate tokens are building into a payoff for the late-game. They probably thought taking 6 over 3 turns was a far bigger risk than interacting in the late-game with your threats.

  • @Bubblenuts13
    @Bubblenuts13 Před 10 měsíci

    I wonder if there is a good one-of card that could give your team Lifelink. It seems like a blowout in some situations.

  • @-homerow-
    @-homerow- Před 10 měsíci

    23:37 Bonu's Last Reckoning 😂

  • @noobtube2799
    @noobtube2799 Před 10 měsíci

    I LOVE YOU

  • @fabamatic
    @fabamatic Před 9 měsíci

    add rocco

  • @alonsocarrasco5460
    @alonsocarrasco5460 Před 10 měsíci +3

    So, what's the deal with you guys and CGB posting very similar decks the same day? Been going on for days now.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před 10 měsíci +9

      It must be the "great minds" thing. Maybe I'll have to message CGB and see if we can coordinate our videos so we don't double up so much ;)

    • @jozefkeresturi2139
      @jozefkeresturi2139 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Content creators have to be fast with meta decks since they can dissapear in a week (Remember Gyaruda) and if you post it nobody is going to watch it.

    • @GOODTARGETBARTZ
      @GOODTARGETBARTZ Před 10 měsíci

      @@jozefkeresturi2139ugggh, I remember that 🤢

  • @boobox2000
    @boobox2000 Před 10 měsíci

    Pia is good, but only because of Wedding Announcement.

  • @johnpotts9929
    @johnpotts9929 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This is easily the worst deck I have ever played, after 100ish games, I have an under 20% win rate.

  • @Brando88Kern
    @Brando88Kern Před 10 měsíci

    No Rocco, Street Chef? Sure, he doesn't make hasty Thopters, but against grindier match ups, shouldn't he at least be in the sideboard? Considering he enables what Pia is already doing I would have thought it to be an auto-include, but he might just be too slow for the format?

  • @thehatebringer8005
    @thehatebringer8005 Před 10 měsíci

    54:00 proff that the algorithm is fucked and intentionally mana floods or screws you over a properly shuffled deck would have seen more lands then that.

  • @GFreeGamer
    @GFreeGamer Před 10 měsíci

    I'm so impressed at this nonsense.

  • @somedude5353
    @somedude5353 Před 10 měsíci

    39% win rate on untapped

  • @47Mortuus
    @47Mortuus Před 10 měsíci +1

    I don't understand how Torch the Tower is supposed to be better than Strange

    • @wjjajshshdbdnnsndhbauhwhshs
      @wjjajshshdbdnnsndhbauhwhshs Před 10 měsíci

      instant speed + scry + exile

    • @47Mortuus
      @47Mortuus Před 10 měsíci

      @@wjjajshshdbdnnsndhbauhwhshs A deck that wins on turn 10 doesn't care about instant speed efficiency.
      how does exiling matter?
      You're NEVER gonna bargain and thus scry
      Also 1 damage less? hello?