Faction Focus 2024 Kharadron Overlords

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Komentáře • 144

  • @Mechtoplasm
    @Mechtoplasm Před 3 měsíci +19

    Few things about the new Transport rules: its 2 units( totaling up to 12 models) for the transport capacity. So you cannot transport like a unit of 6 skywardens, a unit of 3 skywardens, and an Admiral (10 models, but 3 units).
    But more importantly, and more Spicy, is the Transport Skyfarers rule doesn't care if the units to be picked up are in combat. So you could redeploy a Frigate and take your two 6 man units of Skywardens out of combat. You just have to deploy them OUT of combat after you transport. So for a 1" redeploy, you could move a Skywarden 16" inches. (Wholly with 6", plus the 4.5" base of the Frigate, plus the redeploy, plus the wholly with 6" disembark)

    • @40KWill
      @40KWill Před 3 měsíci +1

      Also does not care about counter charges with frigate pulling guys out from combat

  • @sirbobulous
    @sirbobulous Před 3 měsíci +17

    I don't mind them being in the boats or not. I just hate the amount of work that goes into building, painting, *storing* and *transporting* the boats to a venue for a game...

    • @highmarshalbalian680
      @highmarshalbalian680 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Just battle foam them.
      Precut trays

    • @sashashadowhive6128
      @sashashadowhive6128 Před 3 měsíci

      A-case is your friend. Is a bit expensive, but ever since i started using A-case I've never felt like my models weren't safe or easy to transport. I happily take my Sylvaneth (with wyldwoods) anywhere now even on bike.

  • @MarcoRoccaGert
    @MarcoRoccaGert Před 3 měsíci +6

    I got put down / then I set up again / you'll never gonna keep me down!

  • @alexandersideris924
    @alexandersideris924 Před 3 měsíci +32

    Hey Rob! Please don't skip Cities of Sigmar! I'm thinking about playing them in AoS 4 and I value your opinion.

    • @thehonestwargamerstreams
      @thehonestwargamerstreams  Před 3 měsíci +12

      i was just uploading as i go, thanks for the support czcams.com/video/Z2Xc5vp6Ac8/video.html

    • @minacapella8319
      @minacapella8319 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Pretty sure he will go over literally every reveal, he's pretty psyched for all of this.

  • @Zashmyr
    @Zashmyr Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thanks for covering all the faction focus so quickly

  • @DJRaffa1000
    @DJRaffa1000 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Thunderer rifles still wounding on a 4+ feels weird when every random throw weapon that has half a decent punch wounds on 3+
    But overall lets hope the points are balanced with what all of the units have lost from last edition.

  • @Dorkenmore
    @Dorkenmore Před 3 měsíci +10

    KO player here. Im fine with the transport change except that it means i will be constantly having to pick everything up every time i move the boats and re set them up. Just adds more time to movement phase. The artefacts are.... Fine.... But i dont love only "once per battle" options. Lame.. also the subfaction i find incredibly boring because i don't love the artefacts. No code representation at all, the battletraits only come into play if you have boats. Im still totally "wait and see" but so i far im quite underwhelmed by almost everything here

    • @koenvandiepen7651
      @koenvandiepen7651 Před 3 měsíci +1

      What Ko armie does not use the boats. They are really cool and have been the center of the army for ages. Frigates as charge enablers are really cool in aos 3.0 . I think they will be even cooler in 4.0 cause these rules are so lose that you can do all kinds of complete nonsense whit them now

    • @Dorkenmore
      @Dorkenmore Před 3 měsíci

      @@koenvandiepen7651 Oh I'm actually with you on this and this is why I'm still "wait and see" on the whole thing. My issue is that, even if you have boats, the actual battle traits really only apply if you are right next to the boats. So if I have an ironclad or a frigate in the list, still probably half of my army isn't going to be near that boat, so literally no battle traits apply to them. I like the boats being fun to play near, but you still have to play the game in which not everything is going to specifically wholly within 6" of the boats.

    • @koenvandiepen7651
      @koenvandiepen7651 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Dorkenmore Well it's still beter then gitz battle trait right something that does not apply to you army most of the time is random an isn't even that helpfull except for trolls.

    • @Dorkenmore
      @Dorkenmore Před 3 měsíci

      @@koenvandiepen7651 I'm actually with you on that, but I've never been a fan of how the moon works in that army either.

    • @koenvandiepen7651
      @koenvandiepen7651 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Dorkenmore Me neither still i have both armies cause they are cool

  • @vasilismavrogeorgis1959
    @vasilismavrogeorgis1959 Před 3 měsíci +2

    for the artifact that's -1 dice on charge, combat phase might be cause in the shooting phase you werent within 12"

  • @ismasekkate9607
    @ismasekkate9607 Před 3 měsíci +2

    thanks for all the work in releasing videos while being live on twitch!!

  • @brentlucas731
    @brentlucas731 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The whole army plays like the last Subfaction that came out in Dawnbringers.

  • @shendu1337
    @shendu1337 Před 3 měsíci +5

    i like seeing the reduced shooting damage. makes the dorfs more fun to play against, and gives them more oppertunities to play more in melee for a mixed army.

    • @Kimtanashino
      @Kimtanashino Před 3 měsíci +1

      me too, but i'm a bit worried about the fact they nerfed Skywardens damages (-1 attacks where this unit needed to be buffed in the V3...)

    • @magimonk
      @magimonk Před 3 měsíci +1

      The problem is I'm not seeing anything that actually improves their melee capability. If they don't get any that just means they have less chance to do anything at all.

    • @camakazi486
      @camakazi486 Před 2 měsíci

      I’m realllly hope this quashes the KO infamy for being not fun to play against😅

  • @TheGImp1214
    @TheGImp1214 Před 3 měsíci

    The transport thing seems interesting i kind of like the way they’re doing it. Especially for opponents i get to see exactly whats in there rather than having to remember

  • @capt.mannerings8095
    @capt.mannerings8095 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Must say I'm a bit sad about what I'm seeing ATM with the sky dorfs but hopefully it will get better with the book. Awesome job on editing and uploading vid whilst streaming!

    • @Serra7racon
      @Serra7racon Před 3 měsíci

      But everyone thinks this on theire Faction. It just get down scaled alot.
      We will find out, after playing some games.

    • @capt.mannerings8095
      @capt.mannerings8095 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Serra7racon it's more about loosing rules that make them unique, balloon boys being able to hitch a ride on the ships without effecting transport capacity. But totally agree about seeing how they play out, although it's not a faction I play but play against.

  • @Oneen00325
    @Oneen00325 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Great work on getting this out so quickly. But dang if I still don’t like what I’m hearing

  • @markgeorge18
    @markgeorge18 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Great review. Don't know how I feel about these new simplified rules though

  • @baronbergtwitch
    @baronbergtwitch Před 3 měsíci

    Been waiting for this preview! Great to see models on the table and not on the side any more.

  • @Legion_of_the_bland
    @Legion_of_the_bland Před 3 měsíci

    Really looking forward to converting these stunties into the Much-Great Sky-kill Air Armada

  • @TobyGilham
    @TobyGilham Před 3 měsíci +3

    Wow Short Kings on table not on a boat now.

  • @cabe_bedlam
    @cabe_bedlam Před 3 měsíci

    Drakk Hobbler and the Mag Bolas opened for The Max Rebo Band at the Bespin Rocks Cloud Festival.

  • @JHTheHurricane
    @JHTheHurricane Před 3 měsíci +1

    CLOUD SEEDING THIS VIDEO TO THE TOP!!!!

  • @connorclifford
    @connorclifford Před 3 měsíci +4

    Bummer. Nice of them to combine thunderer shooting profiles. Mabey, their army of renown is good. Would have liked to see better warscrolls for the loss of protection in boats and loss of base shoot in combat.

  • @RealJahzir
    @RealJahzir Před 3 měsíci

    Your thumbnail sums up my feelings nicely.

  • @adamsboringvids
    @adamsboringvids Před 3 měsíci

    I really want to paint the spearhead for these.

  • @pilch1981
    @pilch1981 Před 3 měsíci

    Interesting that the mag-bolas is effective until the start of your next turn

  • @ToriGiffin
    @ToriGiffin Před 3 měsíci +3

    More boats please

  • @saritor
    @saritor Před 3 měsíci

    New KO faction terrain: Clouds. Players can only descend from GW cloud models. ;)

  • @curticusmaximus
    @curticusmaximus Před 2 měsíci

    Jumping back in after a 5ish year hiatus. Im between Fyreslayers and KO. Never played dwarves in any tabletop game so ive decided its time. What should i go with?! All incite welcome

  • @Orkimedes-sc8ef
    @Orkimedes-sc8ef Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for your content!

  • @ndpizzle
    @ndpizzle Před 2 měsíci

    Great video

  • @Frolynnd
    @Frolynnd Před 3 měsíci +3

    Chittering gibbon approved.

  • @spiritofgroot1999
    @spiritofgroot1999 Před 2 měsíci

    I hope these simplified rules are just for the indexing.
    Also, I’ll be upset if all artefacts are once per game 😢

  • @davidcanty7903
    @davidcanty7903 Před 3 měsíci +3

    In a Vacuum it seems like a big nerf and nothing about the code?

    • @kennypalmer8971
      @kennypalmer8971 Před 3 měsíci +2

      It seems like a bit of a nerf internally, but we do need to keep in mind that every faction across the board is getting some kind of nerf so it may not feel bad as far as external balance. As a KO enjoyer, i'm not a big fan of the boat changes and losing the cover being in the boats. That was nice for keeping the fragile units we have alive

    • @jtowensbyiii6018
      @jtowensbyiii6018 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@kennypalmer8971 ko didn't have any fragile units, they all had amazing saves 😂

    • @kennypalmer8971
      @kennypalmer8971 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@jtowensbyiii6018 A 4+ save (sometimes 3+) with no ward and 2 wounds per model is fragile. They're fast and hit pretty hard. They're not durable whatsoever. The only other factions that are more fragile are the elf factions, and even then Lumineth pays less per wound than KO.

    • @koenvandiepen7651
      @koenvandiepen7651 Před 3 měsíci

      @@kennypalmer8971 And this is a good thing cause no other army can push as hards as KO can. The ammount of dammage KO can put out before ever getting hit back is about the best in the game. So if they where also tough then ther would be no fair fights against them.And they are also on of the best at picking the time to fight. They need to be expensive per wound or it is broken.

    • @joebetz6317
      @joebetz6317 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@koenvandiepen7651I think that was true in 3.0. In 4.0, they basically have a worse version of SCE's ability (one boat and units versus half your total units), and can't fly high again. KO were really buoyed by easy tactics in 3.0 and their ability to zip around the board for a CP with one boat each round.
      Basically with each edition GW has nerfed KO's movement. Think this might be too far. But will wait and see

  • @raphaelberney4812
    @raphaelberney4812 Před 3 měsíci

    If I'm honest, I must say that I like how this whole 4th edition tastes: simple, streamlined, modular, fast, furious, spicy, and so narrative! My imagination jumps up and down thinking about how evocative all these +1 to add, all these dice to roll are, and how the stories that comes out of it are unique and stimulating.

  • @40KWill
    @40KWill Před 3 měsíci +3

    I feel like KO will be truly hated. The game will be a giant slog of moving boats. Measuring putting guys on the table. Doing this every turn. Super slow.

    • @WarpstoneHoarder
      @WarpstoneHoarder Před 3 měsíci

      Ppl hated them already in 3.0...

    • @40KWill
      @40KWill Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@WarpstoneHoarderProbably not for being a slow army to play against or with

    • @brentlucas731
      @brentlucas731 Před 3 měsíci

      12 man Movement trays with a boat insert that keeps units within 6. Some get to work on the file. :)

    • @40KWill
      @40KWill Před 3 měsíci

      @@brentlucas731 I would buy those

  • @Fotta1989
    @Fotta1989 Před 3 měsíci

    Super excited to have the long range damage reduced here. Much more interactive gameplay.

  • @Cow118
    @Cow118 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think will open a lot of fun plays:
    My turn = I move endriggers/skywardens, activate "assault boat" frigate's ability to charge with endriggers/skywardens with strike first. End of my turn, afte I activate "Power through" command ability (move keyword) on Frigate to move out combat and "transport skyfarer" on endriggers/skywardens place it out too (if they're not in combat). So be carefull to kill target with baloons.
    Enemy turn = Redeploy another command ability with move keyword so I can activate "transport skyfarer" on endriggers/skywardens place it again.
    Beacuse baloons take the transported status only from "trasport skyfarer" and not from frigate's "assault boat"!
    A lot on inches and move flexibility .

  • @alpheausfeltham9532
    @alpheausfeltham9532 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Did you miss the Cities of Sigmar Faction Focus?

  • @damianelvidge9395
    @damianelvidge9395 Před 3 měsíci

    Great flavour!

  • @CTSKenshin
    @CTSKenshin Před 3 měsíci

    This is fun, I enjoyed this!

  • @WeOnlyEatSoup
    @WeOnlyEatSoup Před 2 měsíci

    I kinda wanna play these guys as my order faction

  • @matteaston5904
    @matteaston5904 Před 3 měsíci

    Firing up my printer for these bad boys

  • @SuperEagle112
    @SuperEagle112 Před 3 měsíci

    I bought a small force of these guys to build and paint and while they are dope and super shooty they just aren’t my thing. I’m hoping this new edition will see them sold so I can start my 4th edition faction.

  • @Bazanti
    @Bazanti Před 3 měsíci

    The thumbnail game is strong

  • @DrM0053
    @DrM0053 Před 3 měsíci +1

    great video, gw clouds sold separately

  • @gink04ytube
    @gink04ytube Před 3 měsíci +1

    IM NEXT TO A BOAT!

  • @sashashadowhive6128
    @sashashadowhive6128 Před 3 měsíci

    I find it kinda funny people are complaining that they have to move each model now instead of just the ships and the this will make the movement phase to long... I mean... It just sounds like normal movement stuff for everyone else to me 😂

    • @thehonestwargamerstreams
      @thehonestwargamerstreams  Před 3 měsíci

      Guess what normal movement stuff is? Long

    • @sashashadowhive6128
      @sashashadowhive6128 Před 3 měsíci

      @@thehonestwargamerstreams
      True but i find it funny regardless. Also don't kharadron only have units of 3 to 6 or so models? Shouldn't take that long to move. I'm sorry if I seem rude, but just seems like a minor thing to complain about

  • @CalCoastMotorsportsVentura
    @CalCoastMotorsportsVentura Před 3 měsíci

    Doesn't hold this position make the Fumigator/decksweeper "shoot in combat" redundant... How would it ever come into play that I am both "in combat" and "Moved" as to take advantage of the fumigator/decksweepers ability?? So, basically, shoot in combat will only occur when I am in combat... Can't move if in combat... thus enabling the hold your position ability... Which will give ALL weapons' shoot in combat...

    • @koenvandiepen7651
      @koenvandiepen7651 Před 3 měsíci

      Yea seems so. Maybe there is a faction that lets you move while in combat. But then again why would you not use that to get out of combat?

  • @Warhammer_Rob
    @Warhammer_Rob Před 3 měsíci +1

    comment for the comment gods!

  • @Broken777Arrow
    @Broken777Arrow Před 3 měsíci

    Which faction is good at sitting on objectives and being hard to shift off? Trying to pick one for getting into AoS having never played before.

    • @jtowensbyiii6018
      @jtowensbyiii6018 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Nurgle, or any death faction is good to look into for that

    • @Broken777Arrow
      @Broken777Arrow Před 3 měsíci

      Full on nurgle or slaves to darkness with nurgle too?

  • @paulsalay
    @paulsalay Před 2 měsíci

    The thunderers hold the position seems like a non event, if you are in combat then you havent moved anyway.. Unless there is a move ability or something we havent been shown yet

  • @ShortKings-ik6lf
    @ShortKings-ik6lf Před 3 měsíci

    So ready for 4th ed sky pirates!

  • @mediocremanlarry4852
    @mediocremanlarry4852 Před 3 měsíci

    hey i have noticed that you have been very positive about all the changes in aos4, is this to be more reassuring to potentially new players or do you genuinely think all of the changes have been positive?

  • @earnestwanderer2471
    @earnestwanderer2471 Před 3 měsíci

    Did GW actually nerf shooting, as promised, for this faction? Hard to tell as I’m not that familiar with the sky pirates.

    • @joebetz6317
      @joebetz6317 Před 3 měsíci

      Yes. The boats shoot less, if the Frigate is representative. Thunderers still wound on 4s and nothing was revealed here that shows how that might be improved.

  • @hobbyton3575
    @hobbyton3575 Před 3 měsíci

    I love the changes. Having the models on the game table instead of somewhere to the sides stops a lot of confusion for both me and my opponent. And having the ability to put a ship in the sky and drop it down rally gives you that awe and thunder moment of Kharadron just smashing down from the skies!

  • @fionnmullen5422
    @fionnmullen5422 Před 3 měsíci

    Do we know how many factions are being revealed for AoS 4? Cause if its everyone when do you think the hedonites will be shown?

    • @aqure9
      @aqure9 Před 3 měsíci

      Relatively soon there are only so many chaos factions to go through. I think probably next week or week after

  • @tipsynature
    @tipsynature Před 3 měsíci

    Seraphon! Seraphon! Seraphon! Seraphon! Seraphon! Seraphon!

  • @Bl600ze
    @Bl600ze Před 3 měsíci

    Amazing all guns go

  • @AUS10F
    @AUS10F Před 3 měsíci +1

    Sky Dwarves!

  • @TombKingTristan
    @TombKingTristan Před 3 měsíci +1

    Like if you think Rob’s only sponsorship is Manscaped

  • @gabethefish7585
    @gabethefish7585 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Rob, these videos are great! Keep 'em coming! My only wish is that you made a clip from the league for the 'Flying High' battle trait 😂
    "To The Cloud!"
    czcams.com/video/6vuuynZ1LIU/video.htmlsi=KW8qKgN21_50NHwa 2:37 2:37 2:37

  • @avossins95
    @avossins95 Před 3 měsíci

    Where's the faction focus for bonesplitterz and beasts? I'm super excited to hear about their future in AoS. Lmao

  • @DCUATL
    @DCUATL Před 3 měsíci +1

    As a KO player, I'm not enthused. Maybe there will be more utility spelled out in the unreleased content, but this gives up so much more than it gains. It seems they want to push the units into combat, but their defense is awful. I suspect it will be very easy to tie up units in combat and that'll be game.

  • @Fortunes.Fool.
    @Fortunes.Fool. Před 3 měsíci

    Bought the Spearhead because you talked it up in your Spearhead ranking video. Rob is very bad for my wallet.

  • @highmarshalbalian680
    @highmarshalbalian680 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The transport rules are very disappointing

  • @robandrews4813
    @robandrews4813 Před 3 měsíci

    Hay Rob, love you, from Rob

  • @richardgutierrez2555
    @richardgutierrez2555 Před 3 měsíci +7

    This looks terrible! They really messed this one up.

    • @Strade8
      @Strade8 Před 3 měsíci

      There are some shenanigans that can be done, the rules looks simple at first but they combine giving the army an amazing mobility and can be hard to deal with..

  • @KyleDixon88
    @KyleDixon88 Před 3 měsíci +1

    New sky vessel rules are terrible. What was so bad about how they previously played? I now have zero desire to play my KO army. Thanks GW!

    • @jtowensbyiii6018
      @jtowensbyiii6018 Před 3 měsíci

      It was insanely stupidity overpowered, no other army gets a built in -1 to be hit and +1 save AND teleports AND already has great built in saves AND is a ranged unit to boot

    • @jtowensbyiii6018
      @jtowensbyiii6018 Před 3 měsíci

      So far they do feel the most nerfed but maybe points are cheaper 😅

  • @mouserposting
    @mouserposting Před 3 měsíci

    I mean I'm pretty happy with the transport changes and nerfs to long range damage, because it actually makes KO a somewhat interactive army now. Rather than their current "lol I'm gonna put all of my stuff in big ships, blast your army to pieces and then teleport away kthxbai".

  • @koenvandiepen7651
    @koenvandiepen7651 Před 3 měsíci

    Not going to lie but that thunderers profile is pretty stupid. Cause nobody is going to use the aethershot rifels on annything except the champion. A model that is ironicly not armed whit a aetershot rifle. (well i gues it is now since his double barrel has been removed from rules reality)

  • @giappi3903
    @giappi3903 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Where CoS? :c

  • @Flummoxed_Buffoon87
    @Flummoxed_Buffoon87 Před 3 měsíci

    Hmm what's that smell??? Oh yeah, it's FUG!!!

  • @McWerp
    @McWerp Před 3 měsíci +2

    Did I miss the cities of Sigmar faction focus?

    • @JHTheHurricane
      @JHTheHurricane Před 3 měsíci +2

      Coming up later today!

    • @capt.mannerings8095
      @capt.mannerings8095 Před 3 měsíci

      He was psyching himself up for it

    • @thehonestwargamerstreams
      @thehonestwargamerstreams  Před 3 měsíci +2

      czcams.com/video/Z2Xc5vp6Ac8/video.html

    • @McWerp
      @McWerp Před 3 měsíci

      @@thehonestwargamerstreams thank you sir! I’d rather hear you talk about it than read it for myself :D

  • @l337haxz0rn00b
    @l337haxz0rn00b Před 3 měsíci +1

    youtube thugs represent

  • @chrish1645
    @chrish1645 Před 3 měsíci

    Haha oh man, you've got a ton more of these to do Rob. You'll have to do a condensed video after they're all out where we watch you go from hopeful optimism in the first reveal to full send sarcasm in the last video.

  • @gstellar96
    @gstellar96 Před 3 měsíci +1

    While I understand the reason why I am kinda disappointed your privateers don't stay in the boats

  • @goodoleeli7921
    @goodoleeli7921 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Cities of sigmar? :(

  • @Kurze0
    @Kurze0 Před 3 měsíci +1

    ngl, not thrilled with ANY of this. Looks like to KO are going into the box for a while.

  • @DarkLolification
    @DarkLolification Před 3 měsíci

    Ko player here. Like the transport change, when I spend hour painting minis, I like having them actually on the board. Like the streamlining of weapon profile, it was really tiresome during shooting. Don't like the battle formation at all, just another artifact is not interesting for me.

  • @hugheja89
    @hugheja89 Před 3 měsíci

    Where cities of sigmar 😮

  • @MrBoadini
    @MrBoadini Před 3 měsíci

    I wanted to see my models on the table but... Not like this. This feels awful.

  • @Andy2D6
    @Andy2D6 Před 3 měsíci

    Painted models spending time ON THE TABLE, and not sitting on a shelf... shooting and being killed without EVER touching the table... what a silly idea that was from GW in hindsight. I'm glad that has changed.

  • @jamielaing5244
    @jamielaing5244 Před 3 měsíci

    This is terrible! No more casually floating around and blowing away units while scoring for nothing. I'm gonna have to learn how to actually play AOS!

  • @Serra7racon
    @Serra7racon Před 3 měsíci

    Warhammer: We are gonna streamline Weaponprofiles!
    Checks Skywadens. So that was a lie...

  • @adamjamesstudio
    @adamjamesstudio Před 3 měsíci +1

    Deadpan sarcasm. Actually painful.

  • @thesoothsayer9223
    @thesoothsayer9223 Před 3 měsíci

    RIPin pieces garrison rules you wont be missed

  • @robertbrook574
    @robertbrook574 Před 3 měsíci

    Honestly, steam punk sky dwarves is a pretty cool pitch, don't care who you are. Add a little bit of piracy in the mix, and there's a lot to love in KO...

  • @JonathanG-td6ud
    @JonathanG-td6ud Před 3 měsíci

    Great video