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- "Legends of The Dark Knight" features classics within a classic; it is a must watch episode of the series and one of Walter's favorites. Join us as we continue our deep dive into The New Batman Adventures.
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"Legends of the Dark Knight" is the nineteenth episode of The New Batman Adventures. It delves into the vast history and legacy of the Dark Knight.
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It was incredible! I really loved it!❤❤❤
They brought this back in batman
Gotham knight.
3:36 - 4:04 Speaking of Michael McKean, Joker, and the Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns segment, he was Joker's psychiatrist from the Dark Knight Returns movie. The one who gets killed while with Joker when he's on Conan O'Brien's show; I know the host's name is David Endochrine, but I'm not calling him that. You all know it's just Conan.
7:13 - 8:02 Considering Frank Miller worked on RoboCop by Paul Verhoeven, I'm not surprised Verhoeven actors got picked for Miller's Batman. Also, while I never got that into The Batman's Joker, the way I do with Mark Hamill's Joker anyway, I will say Kevin Michael Richardson's performance still has a place on my list of favorite jokers.
Speaking of how many versions there are, this person put out a two-part, CZcams video a few years back about what kind of hero Batman is. He’s gone through so many different versions that it would seem he covers several different hero archetypes. Here’s part one.
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RIP Kevin, you will truly be OUR Batman.
A True batman
A REAL BATMAN!!
THE goddamn Batman
Charles McGill as The Joker is actually pretty good.
Those Joel Schumacher jabs were pretty brutal. But I also appreciated seeing The Dark Knight Returns in this series. It was a few years before that story got a proper animated adaptation.
"A few years." Sir, it was a decade and a half.
Pretty brutal? Schumacher himself found it to be hilarious.
@@bryancroidragon457 At least he's a good sport about it.
I agree. Forever is a guilty pleasure for me. I loved the style of the movie as a kid. Everything glows, theres lasers and lights everywhere. Its like Starlight Batman. 😂
@@bryancroidragon457 He did? 😂 Well he's a nice guy anyway.
It doesn't matter if it's Peter Weller or Michael Ironside, that surgeon line always gives me chills.
In my opinion, that line perfectly sums up that version of Batman... It gives me chills as well. Batman is always three steps ahead and always in control.
Fr 👊
This is one of my all-time favorite episodes. The different art styles and references to batman's history is truly incredible.
And some friendly bashing of the Schumacher films 😅
They brought this back in batman
Gotham knight.
The kids were redone.
Batman don't shiv.
Joel: "Hey! Who's talking about Batman? I love Batman. All those muscles, the tight rubber armor and that flashy car. I heard it can drive up walls"
the only joke that aged bad, yes he was the punching bad at that time, but now that we have better movies and even worse comic book movies, i take B&R over fanf4stic any day, its time to move on and let the past in history
@@motor4X4kombat I understand though. Certainly wasn't Joel's fault, but when your children's afternoon cartoons are taking the Dark Knight more seriously than the live-action films that are supposed to be for the "adults", I'd be pretty peeved too. At least Joel was said to have found that nod hilarious, so he is a good sport.
@@motor4X4kombat Nah, that joke was fine as it is, and Schumacher himself found it hilarious. People just used to have thicker skin back in the day. While I agree Batman Forever is more entertaining than a lot of the superhero flops nowadays, it was still a massive downgrade from the Burton films.
@motor4X4kombat this is the past tho
Yeah sure, Joel
"If is it a trash heap, It's an operating table AND IM THE SURGEON" now imagine if Kevin Conroy delivered that line 😮😮😮😮😮
Kevin Conroy may have never said that line, but Adam West certainly did, along with this other iconic Batman line "YOU WANNA GET NUTS? COME ON, LET'S GET NUTS!'
KEVIN CONROY definitely did during a reading at a comic-con. Probably SDCC. You just have to dig on CZcams.
@@Robotsinunderwear oh damn I didn't know that good looking out
@@RejectedHeroesMedia Conroy also once read dialog from one of the Christopher Nolan movies. (I think it was the "hockey pads" line.) He also thought Nolan movie Batman sounded ridiculous, but didn't blame the actor. He said "Someone should've told him" that he sounded bad, and that sometimes actors try things that don't work and the director needs to tell them if it's not working.
@@KasumiKenshirou oh wow I never knew that
Michael Ironside as TDKR-era Batman is perfect casting and you can't convince me otherwise.
I love this episode. The depictions of Batman in the '50s and The Dark Knight Returns 80s were great. Gary Owens and Michael Ironside were perfect as their respective Batmans.
Ironside knocked it out of the park for me. His deep gravelly voice is exactly how Bruce would sound like during the events of the Dark Knight comic.
How they knocked it out of the park here AND in the later film with Peter Weller, especially more effective given how I always got a sense of Robocop-esque dystopia from "The Dark Knight Returns" and having him play Batman under that context, pretty cool.
But I bet that Mark Hamill would have done a way better job at voicing the 50s Joker instead of Michael McKean.
If released today, the other batmans would be different genders and races.
This is certainly one of those episodes you might not've liked as a kid because of how weird it was compared to past episodes but once you understand the references, the amount of effort it took to make and the genuine love and respect it has for Batman as a whole, you end up appreciating it far more.
I don't remember anyone not liking this episode when I was a kid.
Whether Batman is played off as goofy or gritty in whatever version, Batman is still Batman.
George Clooney?
Yeah, but there will only be one Kevin Konroy
@@jp3813Clooney wasn't the problem. The bat card and nipples were 🤣
This episode is definitely a classic. My only complaint about this episode is that there were three kids discussing on what Batman is like, and yet the third kid, Nick, barely gets a chance talks about what he thinks Batman is like. And by that, I mean he never gets a unique animated style to tell how he thinks what the Batman is like.
Hell, there's a fourth kid that temporarily showed up halfway through the episode who's clearly supposed to be a reference to the Joel Schumacher Batman films, and he was able to get a brief mention on what he thinks Batman is.
Everything you said was already covered by the video.
@@jp3813 Yeah so? I wrote that comment before Legends of the Dark Knight review was finished. Not to mention, I was talking about my personal opinion and criticism I have about this episode.
@@OmnicidalClown1992 The review was already finished before any comment was posted here.
@@jp3813 When I said finished, I was referring me watching the whole video.
I remember seeing Legends of the Dark Knight when it first aired and was amazed they adapted a part of The Dark Knight Returns. Even my father was impressed, but said, "Of course, they'd never adapt the TV taping."
5:30
Without a doubt, the cameo of the punk mutants Don and Rob in the TDKR segment was the best thing about this episode. For those who don't know, both characters served as the sympathetic comic relief of Frank Miller's masterpiece, being basically the DC Comics version of Pintel and Ragetti. I think both characters were so funny and entertaining, they even stole the show everytime the appezred on screen. In fact, they even appeared in The Brave and the Bold show in a small cameo. It really hurts that they weren't included in the main comics continuity, as both mutants absolutely deserved much more stories starring them
There's a part of this comment that seems a little odd to me... I appreciate the added context, I haven't read the original source material but I watched both part 1 and part 2 of the Dark Knight Returns... I think the mutants are meant to be side characters , sidemen not meant to dominate a show or a medium, but more here's an occasional bit of levity.
And speaking of Joel shomacher, I felt bad for all the jokes I ever said about him after I listened to the Batman forever commentary track. He seemed like an incredibly nice guy, he remembers and credits people’s names even Nicole Kidman assistant. If a boss can name just about everyone that is someone who is worth working for.
Yeah, he doesn't seem like a bad guy. He just made some bad Batman movies. He also did movies like Falling Down, though. I'd rather watch Schumacher's movies than anything with Ezra Miller in them.
A small detail that I think often gets overlooked in this episode is that while Carrie's design is obviously in reference to Carrie Kelly the one boy Matt has the same hair style that his version of Robin has, showing that both he and Carrie are imagining them selves as Robin wich was one of the reasons the character was created in the first place to give kids someone to live vicariously through, it's a nice little touch that I appreciate. 😃
5:51, Michael Ironside voiced the Dark Knight in this story, which is awesome!
Loved how they had him read the epic line, "This isn't a trash heap! It's an operating table... and I'm the surgeon!"
The comic he mention was Bruce Wayne hosting kids campament and a bunch of kids telling Batman stories and then laughing at Mr. Wayne when he shows up in a 'Batman costume'. Great ending
I always like seeing how Batman affects younger crowds in DC stories. It just makes for an interesting dynamic and shows how Batman's methods of vigilantism aren't pure violence, a concept explored quite a bit within this series
They even mention it in the original "The Batman Nobody Knows" story. At the end of that one, the kids don't believe Bruce Wayne turning up as Batman is the real deal (after all, surely Batman isn't just a guy in a costume) and the Dark Knight is left reflecting on how his schtick scares criminals witless, but doesn't bother innocents at all.
@@SuperSongbird21 I've read that comic a couple times, and I love the ending
One of the best episodes to showcase Batman's evolution in television from the lighter toned Silver Age to the dark and gritty Frank Miller style.
Also must give props to Ironside's performance as TDKR version of Batman.
"This isn't a trash heap. It's an operating table... and I'm the surgeon!"
Joel: "Hey! Who's talking about Batman? I love Batman. All those muscles, the tight rubber armor and that flashy car. I heard it can drive up walls."
Nick: "Yeah, sure, Joel."
11:18 Nick's depiction of Batman is actually quite reminiscent of the vampire Batman from the Red Rain trilogy. I think a segment told by Nick depicting Vampire Batman with the animation imitating Kelley Jones' weird art style would have been great. Shame that, after all, this is an episode of a kids' show
This is truly a unique episode, this particular episode is like a reminder of how Batman evolved over the years and I have to say that i love how they thought of this idea
I could not believe how good Michael Ironside is as Dark Knight Returns Batman since I'm used to him as Darkseid. This episode was great.
I'm used to him as Sam Fisher lol
0:55 without Dick Sprang and the visual representation from this fantatic segment, we may never have gotten Batman: The Btave and the Bold!❤
4:41 Absolutely excited seeing Frank Millers Dark Knight Returns animated so faithfully! Can't believe they grabbed Peter Weller ( Robocop himself) to play The Dark Night Himself! I'm beyond excited! ❤
Excited? It was already released a decade ago.
This is my favorite episode from The New Batman Adventures! I love how it shows how people see Batman in their own way.
"This is an operating table...And I am the surgeon"
It's pretty emotional Little Bruce finally followed his father's steps. Alfred sure must be proud 🥲
When i saw it as a kid i didn't understood what he meant, i always though he meant that doctors are evil and since they muntants they don't like to be cure like in x-men, until i read the comic and saw the movie and its definitely not what i expect it yezz. Man cartoons use to be hard core back then-
I always joked without this episode, there would be no Gotham Knight OVA! Pretty sweet getting to expand this idea with those incredible animators! Especially the short with Deadshot done by Madhouse!❤
3:40, Michael McKean! Love him!
The Dark Knight Returns was my absolute favorite part of the episode. I imagine what a whole adaptation with Michael Ironside would've sounded like. Both were great. The DKR gave me so much material for papers in school that my teachers told me i couldn't write about it anymore 😂
Me too. When I finally read it, all I can hear was Ironside voice.
@Vanghool Mazzara same here brother. Even now I can only imagine Sam Fisher being Batman
This episode certainly felt like a prototype to Batman: The Brave and the Bold's approach to reference humor. Especially its silver age design of the Joker.
Oh yeah, I caught on that. The reassemble is uncanny.
James Tucker. He was the one who drew the Silver Age part of the episode.
The many different eras of Batman was awesome. The campy look and voice talent fits perfect. The Dark Knight Returns segment was my personal favorite part. I love TDKR all the animation and voice talent was awesome. The Joel joke was my favorite part and I laughed hard at it. The final part for me was kinda ok and some good stuff. Overall I loved this episode and I watch it constantly.
Now this episode is very fun! From three kids talking about two different versions of Batman himself, I can't see why Batman Dark Knight Anime movies got one of the stories they did in it. I loved it! From the 1950's version and of course the 1980's one. Which they also did a animated two parter movies of it as well, also fun to watch. And let's not forget about our Batman we all know and love.
3:20, The Blue Falcon himself!
From the Days when he was a Campy Crusaders, to the Se-real Dark Path he Follow, and Ended with the Definition of All Era is a Real Joy for Fans of Batman.
The shots on Joel are so low key ruthless
They really captured each style insanely well.
LOVED this episode! An incredible omage to Bill, Dick and Frank. This series and month are incredible😊😊❤❤
Leave a hearth CA!🎉🎉
This whole episode is a giant love letter to Batman's history and I *love it*
Heck yes time for the BEST episode of tnba!!!
One thing that would have made this episode even better: Adam West and Burt Ward voicing Golden Age Batman and Robin. While you could argue their version was slightly newer, it would still perfectly capture the age and vibe.
This actually brings to mind a more recent Batman comic that had a section like this about the Joker.
Several Arkham escapees, who had taken a doctor hostage, each telling their version of the Joker's origin.
Glad this episode was made in the 90s, when Frank Miller still had sanity. If they made the episode today, the TDKR segment would have consisted of Batman banging Black Canary in front of the mutants and forcing Carrie to eat rats. 🤣🤣🤣
I would've loved having Adam West voice the campy Batman from the first segment. But Owens still did a great job. Reminded me of some of the old Super Friends and Scooby Doo meets Batman cartoons.
West actually said he wanted to play TDKR version. (I don't think he meant for this episode, just that he wanted to play that version.)
3:47 you should’ve just said he’s Saul’s brother in Better Call Saul
Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns was a major influence on Tim Burton's BATMAN.
I've noticed that too. All the news media "talking heads" who provide running commentary on the story remind me of Becky and Peter, the two news reporters in the 1989 film. I remember Simpsons Comics also spoofing that talking-head format in their fifth issue of "Radioactive Man" (which is also set in the '80s, and parodies elements of Alan Moore's WATCHMEN as well). The depiction of Gotham's ordinary citizens as just as eccentric as the heroes and villains, as well as the often grotesque art style, evoke Burton as well.
I'd like to note, however, that the gimmick of depicting the events in a movie as worthy of media coverage within its own universe long predates the '80s. George Romero featured an extended fictional news broadcast on television in NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (1968). Even as early as CITIZEN KANE, Orson Welles showed the news reporter protagonist watching a very long in-universe movie newsreel immediately after the film's opening scene.
Speaking of vampires, the real first segment could have been adapted from Batman vs. the Mad Monk, or Batman & Dracula: Red Rain.
The first segment reminds me a lot of the Batman The Brave And Th Bold TV series.
The episode with batmite and the segment with scooby doo teaming up with batman
I think this episode was my first exposure to TNBA and remembered how much I loved it as a kid because of the different stories and styles.
Top 3 favorite episodes of TNBAs
One of my top ten favourite BTAS Episodes
Such a great episode and love-letter all Batman media from comics to screen, up to that point.
11:58 - 12:39 I'm surprised they didn't add in-
"🙄🤣Yeah, sure, Joel. Next you'll be telling us Batman has his own *credit card.* "
"😟😰But he does, guys! He used it here at my store! I saw it!"
Did anyone else catch the Batman forever reference in the episode? LOVE THIS EPISODE ❤
One of the better episodes from TNBA.
Yea bat may!!!!!
I met Bruce Timm at Emerald City Comic Con. I mentioned the Joel character, and how I loved the parody of Joel Schumacher. Without looking up from my book that he was signing, he replied: "I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about." Classic.
11:13 Nick was actually referencing the Vampiric Batman from the "Red Rain" Else Worlds Trilogy... specifically how he looked in part three, "Crimson Mist" due to the 'pterodactyl' comment.
I loved this episode, i honestly though that it was going to be the closest we were going to get to see an adaptation of the Return of the Dark Knight
Wait are the millennials and younger who watch Better Call Saul not supposed to recognize Michael McKean?
It s Chuck
A classic, and amazing episode. I love the aspect in exploring the mythos, what each kid sees in their story. The storytelling, and various versions of Batman delivered something special.
(Snort) *LMAO.* "Dick Sprang," how unfortunate.
Also, "Bill Finger." Lol
Worse, he wrote one of the most infamous old Batman comics, where Joker says the word "boner" as many times as he can.
@@jlev1028
LMFAO. That is so good it must diabetic!
Legends of the Dark Knight. It was long time, a good nostalgic watching on tv. This episode recommended to watch, the ending wasn't bad either. Good thing to see each era of Batman.
One of the greatest episodes ever made in DC animation that showcased different interpretations of how Batman is from the point of view of several youngesters, from the corny Dick Sprang silver age style to the gritty brutality of Frank Miller to the dark approach of Bruce Timm, Legends Of The Dark Knight is a perfect name as we got to see the historical evolution of Batman.
I like this episode cuz there's so many different animation styles.
A true Batman classic
I admit when I saw this episode, I didn’t find myself liking the dark knight returns segment since I thought it was too over the top. But looking back on it knowing what I know now, it was truly spectacular.
Hard to say if we would see this kind of episode again in the future for any existing IPs, but they struck gold here for the tributes to Batman over the decades.
I hope you go thru brave and the bold for a bat-may in the future, that show needs more love
Well as much as everyone loves this episode is really great. I like the 1960s Batman. I like all the versions of The Dark Knight and it is great. I tried to point out to a friend of mine about this episode but he wasn't interested. The same friend I introduced to The Dark Knight returns and he didn't think that man was anything good anymore but after he read that he said well. I've changed my mind. I have a story to tell you I met Frank Miller just last year at comic on and I pulled out my Dark Knight number 2 and the nerds. That were with me said can we hold it? And I said yes of course Frank Miller signed it. I was dressed as dark when dark at the time and said what an outfit he was really a pleasure to me. This episode is one of the best and I love the wine from Firefly. When he says chemicals need to burn they don't even need money too.
I view this episode as a love letter to the dark knights history, from the silly 50s to the dark modern times, plus the title is a reference to the legends of the dark knight books around at the time, it’s a great episode. Also i think the story Nick was telling Carrie and Matt, is a reference to the batman red rain graphic novel and it’s sequels, since it featured a vampire Batman.
“This is an operating table 💥 and I’m the surgeon.” Holy fuck!!!!
Lmao that shout out to Schumacher was golden.
If the closing villian had actually been manbat that could have been a clever moment to call back to the first kids story before revealing the real batman
By far one of the best, and one I remember vividly. I love this episode so much.
I don’t know why but I absolutely love the scene where Joker has the key to the display case but decides not to use them and just smashes it with a ukulele instead
Love this episode!
One of the comic shops near me were selling Cells of this episode and I wish I could've nabbed em
60's Joker: "My mother always said I had talent"
Kids Wb Announcer: Next time ON BAT-MAY...Harley and Ivy are wrecking havoc on Gotham with Livewire....And Batgirl gets help from Supergirl....It's a Girls' Night Out Next time ON BAT-MAY!
This was one of the best shows in the series
"Something tells me to stop with the leg. I don't listen to it."
What came to my mind for the first story was Filmation's Batman with Robin the Boy Wonder cartoon.
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I actually watched The Dark Knight Returns movie before this episode so i was amazed how TNBA nailed it.
Lastly, yeah Batman Forever is pretty bad, but it is my guilty pleasure.
I rewatched it so much as a kid. Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey steal all the scenes.
The actor who voiced the Joker in the Dick Spring inspired segment also played the menacing Star Trek: Voyager character "The Clown" in "The Thaw". That episode itself taking cues from the brighter colors of the original series of Star Trek from the 1960's.
One of my favorite episodes,too bad they didnt do neal adams Batman since I like the look of that Batman.
Great episode
Such a fantastic episode and a wonderful tribute to Batman in all his forms.
I love this episode especially like seeing how some of the kids of Gotham imagines their Dark Knight & can easily remember watching it on tv which I would have liked to have seen a 3rd depiction of Batman, but I think maybe that Nick’s depiction of Batman is similar to vampire Batman from Batman & Dracula trilogy which came out in 1991
7:54-8:03 Imagine Darkseid saying that in a S:TAS episode.
They've done this multiple times with Batman. And it's always so much fun. Seeing how people and crooks imagine Batman, usually as some sort of monster, really helps you understand how he is so effective. There was a similar concept in an earlier season. Specifically, the rookie cop who thought he was basically magic. I love these ideas.
That episode was called P.O.V., which showed the same story form the Point Of View of three police officers.
I actually read the the Miller comic as a kid before the episode came out. So I loved it because parts were pulled right from the book, one of my favorite episodes ever.
1:19 - 2:09 That is until Batman: The Brave & The Bold came out, with Batman voiced by Zeta from The Zeta Project, Dietrich Bader.
7:35, RoboCop himself voiced The Dark Knight in the Animated Feature of the same name.
This is a terrific episode! I love the different stories from the kids. Very funny and clever. Definitely appreciate how the art style changes throughout the episode! I always get a lot of smiles from this episode! Very interesting to backgrounds of the different voice actors. Thank you Once again Kevin Conroy! We all miss you very much and hope that you are doing well in the afterlife! Thank you to Michael Ironside and Gary owens too! Amazing episode!
12:45
clearly a jab at Schumacher lol
Michael Ironside's Batman was so cool. It just makes me think of Darkseid in the batsuit.
I like to think that the episode segment based on the Silver Age made Warner Bros realize that an animated show that directly adapted that bizarre and overly politically correct Era could be much more entertaining than what it seems, leading to the creation of "Batman : The Brave and the Bold"
It took me years to figure out that the design model of the girl is Carrie from when Batman an old man
No joke first couple times I saw this I legit thought the Frank Miller Batman killed the Mutant Leader, was one of the more striking moments in my opinion. Also that crack at Joel Schumaker was pretty funny, I've never hated the guy so I see it as just a playful jab.
This is among my favorite DCAU and even Batman animated episodes.
The music in the TDKR segment is pure tribute to 80s composer icon Vangelis.
Would've been interesting if they did something like Turtles Forever, had different versions of Batman interacting, like imagine BTAS Bats meeting the Adam West version. Likewise, this universe's version of Joker interacting with Cesar Romero's version. At least I'm sure they would treat that version of Batman with more respect than 4Kids did with the '80s Ninja Turtles.