Super Cat Nitty Gritty New York Incident
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- čas přidán 4. 02. 2023
- This is the Definitive Story of the Life and Events leading to the death of Nitty Gritty who died in a shooting incident with Super Cat in New York
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I miss my friend nitty gritty he spent sometime here in London we used to rave at Chesters in Stoke Newington and I'd always gave him a lift home
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@@seemo1261Supercat was in Stoke Newington to …#facts
My dad was Sluggy Ranks & I used to hear about this story a lot growing up. I don't think this is how things went down exactly. However, its in the past. May my father & Nitty rest in peace.
Blessings 💝. Your dad was a G🙏🏿
Really??wow! i wish you would share! Because if the great sluggy is your dad i am almost positive you have the correct version..we used to do business with super power and a day or two after we went there and nitty gun got stuck in his shirt then cat pulled his is the way we heard it.
If sluggy is your father then you must know the truth
@@waynehalliburton5030 thanks love. Manners & Respect. 🙏
Your dad (Sluggy) told me his version of the story. Him and I were friends...I guess no one will truly know the whole story...May Sluggy Ranks and Nitty Gritty travel with their ancestors in peace. Asé
would be nice to see a Documentary and/or something nice about about Nitty Gritty other than this same old story. People are obsessed with drama, gossip and folly. This Great man has been making music since the 60's with The Silvertones and has an incredible catalog and backstory. bless
I would want to get more information around the death of saw
I never knew Nitty Gritty did music with The Silvertones
Nitty wasn't a part of the Silvertones, but the Soulites.
Nuff respect for covering this!
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Super Cat was famous way before this. I remember watching him as a child with Vital Bally's and Mini mart. Love them all Cat Jr and Nitty
Mini mart from ruthland rd. 90s. Sleepy wonda bobo general and Tarzan.
I ran into Super Cat a couple times in Jamaica Queens.
@@rgw1380rw wat year was dat?
I was there. I was a small child. We lived at 5314 Church ave. That Saturday my older brother who was 16 ran into the house and told us what happened. We ran down the street and saw him dead. That was the first dead person I ever saw. I was nervous because it was so many people there. It took over an hour for the ambulance to arrive. But he was already gone. That was a chilling day. You could have smelled the electricity in the air.
That's how it was in Flatbush bk in the crack era..u cld smell the energy of trouble in the air..Bob Nesta Marley's song " ...mystic in the air". Sad what Super Cat did to him & others
@@lesterthms2975 mystic in the air isn't the same a violent energy sir ..a mystic is calming and spiritual..
@@lesterthms2975so what he should have done! Sit n wait for nitty to shoot him. Shame on nitty's bad choices
Wow!! Thanks for sharing that memory. I lived way over on Nostrand and Church. That year 1990 I knew nothing of Nitty Gritty. Only Super Cat, Capleton, Shabba, Ninja, ect. Wasn’t until 1993 when I started listening to sound clash. Addies vs. Saxon. In Tilden Ballroom was I first learned of Nitty. Such a tragic loss
Omg 😱
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work still can’t believe that he’s gone they were like two brothers wishing they could of solve the problem they both had my stills break when I listen to all of his music 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Yep I would never forget it either it was during the summer time I can not recall the year but it happened in the early 90s I was on Lenox rd
Thanks for this Brother. All the very best frm England
After all these years this is the most thorough account of what transpired. Thank you!
For real!!!
Nitty Gritty killed my cousin in Jamaica… You reap what you sow
Supercat was already a superstar...when Nitty was killed
Exactly, remember it like it was yesterday...Brooklyn was on fire back then.
Exactly
Nitty was murder and y'all worrying about who's "supercat" first.. wow
You can't work an artiste and don't pay the man...and play ganster....not murder bro self defense...
True that, nuff people done know Super cat already before the shooting!
I remember hearing about it at the time and this was in New York, one of my older cousins was there...
I recall the day it happened- had hoped it was only rumor… R.I.P Nitty Gritty 🙏🏽
Tru..Was On Church Av…’40’s When It Happened.
@@quicktokill9021 I was on the corner in Harlem but the word was Super Cat killed somebody because the person didn't know Nitty Gritty.
Respect youth ,awesome material
The Wild Apache might be the only reggae dancehall artist that would defend all of his rudeboy lyrics in real life.
It is unfortunate what happened to gritty, but you don't pull a gun on someone and don't expect any repercussions.
Indian = GOAT.
Mate that is not true about cat at all. He will try get bad if there's an audience or summink in his hand but he is not that much cop on his own you mark my words son
Super Cat is mixed race bredda
Nuff Man A Dead..
@@keanubelle1157 Still a Blacc Man
@@keanubelle1157 We all Mixed if you ask me.I know I am.Im Native American RedSkin Cherokee
Good account of the story. I was wit supercat in Brooklyn house when he came through there for that case...and yes the case was definately thrown out...he stayed in Brooklyn house for about and week and then was discharged...good job
Good work brother 👏🏿
I was just a few blocks away when it happened at my Aunt Lu Lu’s Jamaican Restaurant on Church Ave & 55th Street, Super Powers was on Church Ave between 49th street & Utica Ave. Robert came there right after he did it & told my Aunt what happened. Super Cat (Robert), stayed out of the spotlight in Brooklyn for a couple of years after that in fear of Nitty Gritty people was looking for him. Rest Eazy Nitty mi General.
Super cat also had a licensed gun in NY..a couple years ago they did a drive by after him at his house and he returned fire..he even talked about it in interviews.
Facts.White man was tryna take him out.I heard the interview
I never knew this story, thanks for the history lesson!
I had no idea either. I heard that he died in an accident but I guess that was incorrect.
Oh, that actually was Tenor Saw
@@bbennyjtenor saw was shot dead in Texas. Unsolved with all type of speculation (drug deal, owed money etc)
@@bbennyjyou are right it was a hit and run ..he wasn't shot
Both men drew their guns, but Cat was quicker than nitty. Eeka mouse spoke clearly on this story already.
I was also told that cat saw his reflection in the glass that he had pulled his weapon. Many versions of that part alone.
That sounds like the correct account.
The one version I heard was that Cat and Gritty were clashing on stage (likely at Sting, but then that would be the undisputed all-time top moment at Sting, if it was), and Gritty THREATENED to pull out a gun and shoot Cat… Cat promptly responded by ACTUALLY pulling out a gun and ‘bloop-bloop’, killing Gritty on the spot… Cat’s self-defence claim was justified by Gritty saying, out loud, that he had a gun on him!!
I was unaware of how Nitty Gritty died until I heard that!!!
@CZcamsrD-Man2015 I heard the same. I heard Nitty actual made a gesture like he was pulling out but it was only his two fingers that he aimed at Cat. Cat reacted, drew and fired.
@@jamaicaworldwide you getting warm
I was living in New York at the time, it was shocking, Cat had just released “Nuff man a dead “
Same.
That's bcuz he knew what he did & was going to do...
Jamaicans hot up Brooklyn,Harlem,Jersey back in the days
Uptown in the Bronx on White Plains Rd, The Valley even Mount Vernon. Pete Rock, Heavy D and even Denzel Washington all have Jamaican Roots and are from Mt. Vernon. Shout out to the Valley.
@@rotweilerscholar1181 talk ya shit Rasta
@@BrownsvilleBaby_Est My relatives are from the South. I just grew up with many whose ancestors came from the West Indies. I am gonna visit St. Lucia in a few months.
@@rotweilerscholar1181 Facts..Me personally I could be Carribean.My grandparents was from Alabama a small country Indian Town called Loachapoka.Grandmother was a Redskin Cherokee .
@@rotweilerscholar1181 Plus Mike Tyson via his biological father!!!
Jah jah always here the talk as a youth coming up, good to know the true story 👍
Sir being a license gun owner in Jamaica does not mean you're license to carry legally in the USA especially not in NYC...also cat career started to slow down after the shooting..he caught a lot of backlash from fans who didn't know the whole story..cat was one of the biggest dance hall artist way before the shooting happened..cat music helped me survive NYC during that time..
Oh. What I meant was that since he is licensed here he sees it necessary so he may have sought and got licensed there. I didn’t mean his license here works over there.
He didn't have a NYC permit. Witness statements and the fact Nitty Gritty was illegally in the U.S and Cat was legal he got off on self-defense. Nitty was also wanted in Jamaica at the time.
@@chiefdonreed6353did they say nitty killed his girlfriend in Jamaica? Shame
@AS-wj1du I heard that in the 80's. I never heard about it again after he was killed and I lived in Jamaica several years still have my house in St Ann's.
@@chiefdonreed6353okay. I wonder if it was true
His tune 'Creator' will always be the heaviest and all time best song from King Nitty! This man passed the year I was born.... Wow.
SUPERCAT WAS BIG BEFORE THAT AND NOT MANY PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT THIS SITUATION UNLESS YOU HAD YOUR EAR TO THE STREET
Super Cats 2 biggest albums were released the year after the incident
I worked at a meat shop Across the next side of Utica Avenue on Church Avenue Across from super power records… I was out there that day and trust me it was a 🎥
I use to work at the meat shop they called me English was not at work that day heard about it next day at work.
So many different stories but sadly for nitty gritty he dies at the end in every version of the incident
nitty gritty was a wanted man when he left jamaica for england using someone else's passport with his picture placed inside.gritty was involved in multiple armed robberies and shootings in jamaica before he left.spent a little time in england before obtaining false british documents and going to new york.him and sluggy start to spar and the dance they kept was in philly...gritty asked supercat to perform but cat told him he couldn't go and to use his brother junior cat instead.dance keep,junior cat perform and wasn't paid...him and gritty end up inna big argument and fight,gritty gunbutt him and buss him head...obviously supercat was vex.he told gritty him have to pay his brother,gritty tell cat to suck him mumma,dem buck roun a supa power and we know the rest.no rental car business.by the way cat never had no licensed gun but he got off on self defense based on witness statements,security footage and the fact that gritty was an illegal alien criminal fugitive from jamaica
Nitty pulled his trigger, the gun jammed, so cat shooting was justified
Bloody nora! You must have known Glenn an all to know all that I tell ya. Now I remember him leaving out of nowhere, weren't privy to the false British passports and that. But I do know he was a wanted man back Jamaica and he had gotten in some filth in london too. By the time I got out of lock up he was already gone.
Ended up getting banged up again and then thats how I heard what happened. Nitty was my friend but clumping junior cat for owed money is defo right up there if you saw what I've seen him get up to.
Seet deh! That’s closer to what I’ve heard as well.
I'd be interested to ask junior cat about all this an all mate. I know him a bit but not seen him in decades. Never heard him speak on it either as it happens
This is how I heard it from the same week it happened.
Sammy dread was my dad og in Brooklyn… they use to tell me this story all the time .
Story is about accurate enough. Good job.
Finally I get to hear the TRUTH on this urban legend tale!!
Are you sure ?
They need to do a movie on Jamaicans in NY in the 1980s. I remember all the Rastas when I was a little kid. They just disappeared probably due to deportation etc. It’s almost like it never happened…
An argument about a vehicle turned nasty,supercat was defending Junior cat,and claimed self defence because gritty was the instigator 🎶❌🚩🆘🚘🚔🚖🚆🚓🚕🛺
I remember when Super Cat & Mad Lion had songs that merged with hip hop & rap they Kiiiiilllled and introduced many black Americans to dancehall and found that most of the best rap artists were actually Caribbean, first born in the US. Also the most popular rap artists would always add Dancehall elements to their album making ppl interested in the culture, even when they sample the riddims and slang of the time.
Dont forget Shinehead basically started it all
💐
@@marlmarl8030 Facts, I was little thinking Shinehead was a Brooklyn rapper when I heard "Who The Cap Fits", it was in heavy rotation every weekend on 98.7 Kiss and WBLS in 1986, 1987.
@@1974tical That was the first album I ever bought when I was around 10 years old, bumping that in Montego Bay as a kid. Then running into him 3 years later in Super Power Records in Brooklyn
@marlmarl8030 Church Ave was the place to be back then, much celebrities pass through.
Super Cat still handsome as ever. Ppl told rumors thinking Super Cat had died.
Bun Super Cat
So fine 😍 I always had a crush on him
Cat and gritty did ah par whole week after the show with sluggy junior never get pay and that is also part of the friction
this is the story i know from ever since and me live ah trinidad
If not for Super Cat we may have never seen the Notorious B.I.G.
Fax
@@DonTheking big facts
Blood clot lie u fkboy
@@SECRETCINEMALOSANGELES czcams.com/video/-u5m_LfiXzM/video.html
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Don't forget that Sluggy Ranks R.I.P was involved too...
Rest In Peace Nitty Gritty
I was in Tilden H S at the time and remember this well. We all walked over there to see it after the fact.
My School!!
@@yaadise7en636 what years? It's now a mixed use school I heard.
I remember seeing super cat and junior cat at Tunda parties back in 91
Can you do a video on early b pls he was shoot would like to no why
World a cold place enuh!! Everybody mus stay safe
Big Story this ! Wicked!!!
i tried searching old news archives online..I never saw a mention of this incident. However, it was a common thing in new york in early 90s.
This is only 2 the 60 different versions of this story.. At this point no one will ever know exactly what the issue was.
It did make the news. I think Channel 11 and print media. Possibly Daily News. If you are in NYC. The best place would be The Brooklyn Public Library. I didn't find out about this from the streets because I lived in a different part of Brooklyn.
I used to visit the record shop where the killing apparently took place.
@@marleyite ever man fram caribbean been there at some point
it was on news.... there was also one time the NY news said he Super Cat was killed too... I think it was around 95.
Supercat will bust his gun I believe, he said himself he got into a few shootouts in some Long Island hoods after this, unknown people following him trying to do drive bys,walk bys to take him out
While I was hustling around town, I first ran into him in the store around my old neighborhood. I never asked if he was himself, but knew who he was already. I'd see Louie Rankin in Queens as well. Super Cat definitely always appeared to be a live dude in the flesh.
Super Cat is my entertainer for life
I never knew about the shooting incident while I was growing up
Please can u do hugh mundell and the shooting with junior reid
Junior Cat had a Isuzu Trooper don't why him wudda need Nitty Gritty car. Nitty Gritty also had run from 🇯🇲 after a shooting
That was prince trooper..
I never forget that day ,I was a few blocks away , jr cat yuh ah still me general 🙏🏽
Not really related to main content but just a side point - looks like you show picture of Yabby You when you mention Roman Stewart [1:38]. ..? Instructive video though - give thanks!
i remember this on church ave in front of super power record shop
Remember the legend nitty but love the great supercat 💕💕💪
i was in superpower records 1 week after...i lived one block away on linden
The loss of a Legend over a little bit of money! So sad
He was a theif not a legend
@@GhostSTpatrick479the record companies thief too so
"I would like to know who killed tenor saw" - nitty gritty
Seems like Tenor Saw was killed in a straightforward hit and run whilst walking along a motorway in Texas.
Lol my youth cat was already a superstar since the late 80s in 93 when he redo dolly my baby with biggie he was the reason there is a biggie smalls today
Wild Apache! GOAT!
7:00 😭😭😭 I hate to laugh, but Super Cat was moving crazy in that clash with Ninja Man 😭
Lol. Ikr
Wow never knew this till today the Nitty made the 1st move and Supercat was acting in self defence.Wish this went different as Nitty is still loved and Missed till this day. Supercat live on the same avenue as my Grandmother and my Family have pics and I met his close friends in Jamaica smoked his GUNGA WHICH WAS🔥🔥
Interesting to see that the story I heard so many years ago was actually true.
All I heard was 'Nitty backed his gun first and it jammed then cat shot him'.
Funny enough I was never bothered about why the argument happened, That one sentence was all I needed to know.
I never knew this. Interesting
Big story
But this is what I believe and it make better sense Gritty and Apache are both born Jamaicans good Artist whatever it was that led up to the shooting one man dead so it wouldn't make sense for any of the witnesses to point the finger at Apache unless you are a friend of Nitty gritty because as a jamaican born we deal with our shit in our own way no need for authorities to get involved because its not going to bring back the dead
So obviously the witnesses came to an agreement to say it was self defense
Rip nitty n tenor
I seen it happened, it happened @a record store in between church Ave & linden blvd on utica ave, next door 2a sneaker store near Bobby's dept store,ill never 4get that day🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
Yo I HEARD that story for years how he threatened to shoot anyone who threw a next bottle at him while he performed holy shit its TRUE!!! 😂😂😂 WILD APACHE 💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥 7:06
Yea man real thing. Super Cat don’t play. Lol
@Jamaica Worldwide Bless the channel family. And shout out to my my homey SPLAGGA DON on that story. I swore he made it up you get a stipe on this for life 👌🏾🤣💯
@@AdrianJr lol. Jamaicans be telling some crazy stories tho. Lol
@Jamaica Worldwide FACTS!!! I thought it was pureeeee 🧢 when my boy was telling me for years...over n over.. but when I seen the vid my jaw dropped 🤣🤣
...he did spice it up a bit but it's generally TRUE 😆😆💯
My pops told me this story as a kid
Mine too! To this day he tells me about this incident and this is the first time on the internet hearing about what might have caused it.
Did not know this story.
And you still don't because none of the Jr Cat Nitty Gritty story was true.
Rest in power the great NITTY GRITTY HIM TUNE DEM CANT DEAD JAH NO STAR
I Remember seeing his body in front of Super Power Records, church Ave and E49 st
I don’t believe Cat’s record company capitalized on the incident….the vast majority of Cat’s American fans had no idea about this incident back in the 90’s.
Super cat had his license hun ,I use to hang out couples doors down in the pizza shop on Utica Ave ,but wasn’t around when this happened,but was sad for Nitty Gritty because he was a rising star also ,but you can’t threaten a man life and pull gun and nah shoot first,if is so it happened,Super was well known well known at the record shop also ,so some cover up could ah gwon
I used to pass by that store where it happened, on Church Ave when I lived in Brooklyn. The last I remember it was turned into a boutique. I’m sure it’s something else now. I told my friend one day walking by this is where Supa Cat kill Nitty, and he had no clue he lived right around the corner on Utica Ave.
Was a record store on church and E48 st.
You meant superpower records. I saw everything when I was a kid. I just came out the barbershop. To be honest I didn’t know who none of them were until A few days late. My older brother said don’t say anything to know body.. I saw Nitty had junior cat in corners with his gun out. I just thought it was a robbery. while super cat was walking around the same corner. Nitty turn around aim his gun at super cat and it did stick. Super Cat already had a gun on him. I saw him shoot think about 4 times, but didn’t know if if actually hit nitty, because nitty was still standing. Everything was moving in slow motion. I ran my black ass home so fast. I saw it on the news within the hour, but they got it wrong. One thing I found out about Super cat he was a licensed gun owner in New York as well.
@@politicstalkpodcast6425 wow..crazy u actually seen dat shit..wat year was dat
Am St lucian. I didn't know the details, but knew super cat killed Nitty-gritty
@@denniseubanks-go6bh super power record shop
I was 2 blocks away when it happened. I heard the gun shot.
How you never mention sluggy ranks in thr story..
Did any of the jamaican newspapers or us newspapers wrote about htis incident?
Why would the newspaper repeat gossips ?
Wooowww now I now nyc excellent
Give me some of your something and me give you some of my thing, alright then. Wicked Nitty
I boil all of this down to, Super Cat had to make a sacrifice. You have to do this to move up in the industry. This is what the entertainment business is all about.
Two examples that comes to mind is: (1) Snoop Dogg murder case; (2) Jay-Z stabbing Lance “Un” Rivera. It’s Hollywood. This is how they build these characters/actors image and make money off of these things.
During that time a lot of Jamaican was into a lot of things in Brooklyn nuff back stabbing between certain people and things was due to happen
I seen this happened with my own eyes
Nitty, Jr Cat & Sluggy did a show the promoter gave Nitty the money & Nitty never paid Jr Cat. Jr Cat got mad & fuked up his rental, so Nitty was mad. Nitty bumped into Super Cat at the record shop in Flatbush & they got into it Nitty said he was gonna kill Jr cat & that’s when the guns came out & cat had his on him. Jr Cat wasn’t even there when it happened
Str8 up
Sluggy was my dad. I remember always hearing about this story growing up
@@teekolinski491🙏🏾🙏🏾 Sluggy was a great Artist
Wow! Sounds like someone close to this story. Thank you
@@brownhornet1975 🥰
Umm should talk to Sluggy. Heard it was over a show he put on from a friend who was in NY at the time. He actually did an interview around the time, explaining.
Sluggy is dead
You a the only man weh bring up the reality. Nobody mention Sluggy and if they didn't then they wasn't there and didn't know what happened. Story them a mek up. I ain't talking the ting. Gritty gone, Sluggy gone, Gritty have youths that are big now. Respect to his family and let sleeping dogs lye.
My father died in 2012 in Jamaica. There were silly rumors of obeah between my dad & nitty gritty.
I know Nitty family personally and the story is true.
Did you also know Nitty personally as well? If not, who do you know from his family? I wonder if any of them would be willing to share personal stories about Nitty. There's such little coverage of him and yet his music touched so many people!
@@rocklynclarke4490😅😅he is lying ,this is nothing but gossip
There has to be more to the story, how does a person who wasn’t even a citizen of this country get away with such a crime of this nature and how the hell did he get a gun from Jamaica into this country? Also, in New York City, it’s a mandatory jail sentence for carrying and having possession of a gun from another jurisdiction into New York City without proper credentials, as Plaxico Burres found out the hard way. I still have a feeling it wasn’t super cat who actually did the shooting.
Supercat was a resident and the whole situation would be ruled as self-defense. Nitty drew a weapon as well. He did not bring the weapon from Jamaica he would have had a licensed firearm there as well.
Shocking 😱 story
Nothing but gossip
Those 90’s street of Brooklyn could tell the tale!! If it nuh go suh it go near suh
Brooklyn was a war zone 80s early 90s, you come from Jamaica just to end up in the hood again in NYC
@@mosesisraelites2598 FACTS!
Talk truth! Everybody from ja ghetto you could find there.
I would love to know the first few Jamaican artists to have their style of music to be featured world wide. Whether ska or mento or an earlier style.
Interesting Topic.
Harry Belafonte was the first person on the world to sell 1 million albums. He was born to Jamaican parents.
Millie Small sold 7 million units on “My Boy Lollipop,” as it relates to Jamaican music, Bob Marley was Jamaica’s first superstar with music from Jamaica. Jimmy Cliff helped and preceded him but Bob is first global superstar.
Sid and the slickers
Prince buster
Jimmy cliff
Desmond decker and the aces
@@trangman5996 Dont forget about the Great Toots & the Maytals, Also Derrick Morgan.
The first Artist to chart was Millie Small ,Ska
Who kill Tena Saw, people need to know that?
Nobody. Unfortunately, he was hit by a car crossing a motorway. All the rumours of him being purposely killed (by drug dealers etc) are false.
Yup!
Salute to Supercat for handling his business.
If you shoot somebody in self defense you should not leave the scene
I agree. His lawyer would have given reasons for that still. Him being who he is. And threat level
Nitty Gritty gi weh him life…
Save this video in the archives file rudeboy
My cousin took 5 bullets some place in America in 1985 and at his funeral back in Jamaica two factions drew guns on each other each blaming the other for his death so there is a lot more going on behind the scenes that we don't know about its not just about what took place at the murder scene
And to this day no one has been charged with his murder
Nitty took 5 shots?
Super had to it was him or nitty I heard nitty tried to shoot super but super was quicker
That how CAT get off... self defense
This sounds more like it
@@barringtonedwards7008 And you're the main demon. Tell us what happened since you were there jackass
Who you heard it from. 😅😅people who desperately want to believe that cat is a badman ?
@@neilnelmar8007 lol well no matter how u look at it super still here
I was supposed to go to the show at windsor cricket club on talbot ave in boston where early b got shot and killed on stage soon after this. Im glad i didn't.
Good stuff…however this incident had nothing to do with Cat continuing to get bigger. He was going to rise because of his popularity with the major players on the hip hop scene Puff Daddy’s, Heavy D, Jermaine Dupri And Kross Kross…one of whom was his cousins.
I don’t know. Not saying he wouldn’t but the record label definitely capitalized on the attention at the time
Kriss kross n cat were families??
@@lilhypez97 one of them is yes
It didn’t go exactly like that , but that’s a story for another time.
Talk man!