Hidden Entrance to Novigrad + more details you missed while looking for Triss.
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- The Witcher 3: Hidden details in the Pyres of Novigrad quest. All the ways of finding Triss in the Putrid Grove including a secret entrance into Novigrad through the sewers.
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0:00 How it all begins.
0:15 Don’t rush or you’ll miss Menge’s speech.
0:45 What if you draw your sword on the looters?
1:35 2 Witcher 2 references.
1:50 2 Nasty glagolic inscriptions.
2:50 The crippled one.
3:10 The one with the wife.
3:28 The xSoldier.
3:41 The addled one.
4:44 What if you get too close to the 1st thief?
5:45 The 5th beggar.
6:14 Pretty good dialogue!
7:33 Finding the Putrit Grove without a password.
8:16 The actual ambush.
8:40 What if you draw your sword on the ambushers?
9:23 How to enter the Putrid Grove from the Sewers.
10:01 Limited secret entrance to Novigrad.
10:20 Fighting the crippled sewer rats.
11:11 A sorceress wants a demonstration in dexterity.
11:32 Good saddlebags sold in the Putrid Grove.
11:36 How to tell if a quest giver is trying to trick you.
12:43 The Olgierd example.
13:05 The Doppler example. (Skellige’s Most Wanted)
14:07 Boring outro.
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One thing I forgot to mention is that the secret entrance is also a way to enter the Putrid Grove without getting disarmed at the gate.
I never knew about the Glory Gate sewer entrance. Wow!
If I start a new game+ will I be able to keep all my items and level and would the story reset?
@@SignusSig yes, except a few story items that get removed. You keep all your armor, weapons, levels and most other items. You lose all gwent cards.
Hm 'alternative way to Novigrad later' - I not think so, if I remember right this gate is locked again later on the game, guess they changed locks :D
Actually never knew about the secret sewer entrance. Goody!
PS, you mention the Saddlebag-seller, but you didnt say he plays Gwent? :O
Didn't imagine there was so many possibilities for this tiny quest ! Can't even remember what I did.
yeah there is quite a bit here
@@xLetalis This game can't stop amazing me
Underground passage is only true way for a witcher, after all we have drowners there :'D hardest but most fulfilling (especially if you skip Velen completly and run there on 3th level )
10:34 Yet another example of why Geralt is such a great character. That hint of snark as he explains the excessively literal version of how he got there (corpse, key, door), and then also the "thank you" after they let him pass after the fight.
"PLEASE, SHOW MERCY!"
"Do as I asked then"
"Okay just please don't kill us!"
"Thank you."
I've played this game for countless of hundred of hours and I had never knew that there was a secret entrance under novigrad LOL this is why I absolutely love this game. There are countless hidden things in this game and I love it
I never followed any thieves or beggars for the entrance to the Putrid Grove, allways used the sewer passage. The looters say it right away, it's not difficult to find and I didn't even think of a different option. Still, fascinating how different people can think of such diverse approaches as 'obvious'. Greetings from Poland.
@@piotrmroczkowski2324 Zależy dla kogo niezbyt trudne do znalezienia... mimo wszystko dziura pod traktem nie jest zbyt widoczna a i złodzieje nigdy nie powiedzieli z której strony jest wejście - gdybyś nie wiedział w jakim miejscu jest Zgniły Gaj równie dobrze mógłbyś szukać np na północ od bramy oxenfurckiej :'D
Same thing here. I have jumped in that body of water countless times yet I've never seen that.
Velen and early Novigrad (searching for Triss) really feel polished and deep in the story and ways to do them. While on other hand later Novigrad and in some of the late main quests (and even sidequests like radovid's assasination) feel "rushed" and the cut content is really felt there.
Didn't feel that rushed to me
didn't notice that, but now that you mentioned it, yeah, I agree a bit, not to say everything in novigrad and later is bad, just intro and early game felt better, but still dlcs are by far the best part and you can see that cdpr was having fun (as much as working as a game designer in big corpo can be fun) making it, felt like they did what they felt was good / what they wanted, and not what would sell the best as they did in main game perhaps
I completely agree with the beginning feeling very polished. Defs felt like I had no incentive to stay in skeliga after you finish yens quest (glad I did though, it's like a whole second game out there).
With radovids assassination it did feel short but I didn't get the impression it was rushed. Dikstra likely would've done it whether Geralt appears or not
@@SX12C Yeah DLCs are the best, they have the most polish and even more references to the books and Geralt's past than the main game. Also ending Geralt's story in Toussaint feels right, it's much better than ending of Main Story where Geralt is just thrown into Kaer Morhen after the last battle with Eredin and the epilogue [which also had some cut content like Ciri's ice skating or strange script/storyline like Sorceresses not doing anything] - Kaer Morhen is completely empty [except Keira standing outside walls, an oversight], we know nothing about where who went and that melancholic music plays in the background.
@@wearsjorge55 How Djikstra was handled in the final version of that quest is totally not Djikstra-like. In the books and in the game he is way too smart to just confront Geralt, a witcher, in a straight fight using just a couple of thugs. There is a mod that changes the outcome of this mission that allows everyone to live and Djikstra to rule.
Fact is W3 was quite rushed at the end of the development cycle and one outside gamedev advisor that used to work there (don't remember his name) was actually stunned how they barely managed to put the game together in such a short timeframe into a playable state just before the release date. [Looking at you, Cyberpunk… didn't work for the second time] No wonder they had to cut a lot of content and simplify the quests/story like the Catriona story, Iorveth story or various quests like the final Eredin battle or Radovid's assasination and some others. Game might be art, but first of all its purpose is to make money for the company which hurts the final polish and detail.
No one can beat the master Witcher himself Xletalis in finding everything Witcher 3! What a nice way to spend an afternoon
Another hint of shady behavior is the face of the merchant. He shares it with the Temerian guerilla in White Orchard (the one who flees on horseback) and the guy you (can) rescue from the drowners southeast of the Inn at the Crossroads at that later shows up as a bandit north of Ursten.
This game will never run out of secrets
is there different dialog or content based on game difficulty?
like halo on legendary had ever so slightly different dialog.
@@dnegel9546 I don’t think there is, I can’t confirm this because I haven’t ran side by side comparisons for each one but from what I remember it doesn’t change
Endeed. I was astonished about these kind of videos years after the relaese and they still they're popping up everywhere. 7 years after release!
That Sewer Entrance I’ve been looking for since my first play through
Hahaha been looking for that for ages again l dropped some loot there lol never found it
xLetalis you are an absolute legend. Your dedication and passion are phenomenal. Keep up the great work!
The third way from the Sewers also could be found if you listened the dialogue between two thiefs right near the door, on the square. They are talking about the secret pass and the dead friend there. And it will be even the quest option!
Yes I say that in the video
You don't get an objective to do that though, not in recent versions of the game anyway. Presumably it was patched because the looters don't actually know where the entrance is, despite talking about it. Unless you're talking about different thieves? I've never been able to find others and I've looked, a lot.
@@AndreyAndreev-Narf I got the objective but into the all Novigrads channels out the walls (not direct place, just all possibilites).
@@IamNeo94 Yea, I've seen how the objective appears. It's just that on some, presumably recent versions of the game, it doesn't appear at all unless you know where it is and go through with it.
This was actually very interesting. In all of my playthroughs I’ve always just went straight to the mind-addled beggar and I only chose to follow the thief one time and that time I followed quietly until he reached the gate so I didn’t know about any of the extra dialogues. I also didn’t know you could actually enter through the sewers like the looters tell you. Amazing how one small part of a quest can be done in so many different ways!
By the way the sorceress burned at the beggining of the video is if I remember Felicia Cori, whom you might meet in Vergen if you follow Iorverth's path and then later in Loc Muinne, where she is supposed to take her exams from Filippa. You can also buy some herbs from her. I am talking about Witcher 2 here of course :D
OMG!!! I knew she looked familiar!!!
I definitely missed one of The Witcher 2 references in Triss' house. I do remember the Rose of Remembrance but I definitely missed seeing Triss' Witcher 2 outfit just on the floor. The sewer entrance was also news to me. Great video as always!
That voice actor with the super distinct voice who voices quite a few characters is such a great fit for this game. He's fantastic
yeah I know of whom you speak ;]
2:21 I don't know if anyone confirmed this already (I'm sorry if someone did and I haven't seen that comment). As a Polish girl, I confirm, what you're saying. That one particular word "kurwa" is a swear word we use generally in Poland on different occasions, from expressing great sadness or anger to great happiness. Or just because, with no intent of expressing anything or meaning (but that's quite rare, I must say). It's very popular here. And works also as a word for "whore". So you got it right completely, thank you :D (And BTW, another great video 💚)
So is basically like "cazzo" in italian; on its own it means "dick" referring to the male genitalia, but we often use it for the same things you just said for kurwa xD
- How many missed details do you want to find in Witcher 3 ?
- Yes
And here I was, completely unaware of the sewer entrance. Keep it up, you're the best!
Onto the details in Triss' house... It's a shame we can't bring her her Witcher 2's outfit back. Looked much better. And, once you've played the previous game... the wilted, dried up Rose of Remembrance is such a sad detail when you remember what the rose meant. Poor girl. She comments that she kept it as a "warning", I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Besides, wasn't the rose supposed to have been used by Philippa to perform everyone's favorite type of magic? But Triss got it back somehow? In fact, the wilting may have been caused by Philippa's spell. Which saves the continuity of the Triss romance, should Geralt go that route.
A more general remark on Triss' whereabouts: I still have a hard time buying that, when Ciri was in Novigrad and needed a mage to work on the phylactery, neither Dandelion nor Dudu knew Triss was there too. Before going into hiding she didn't exactly go unnoticed, what with her large house, "cavorting" (quoting Yen) and being famous to anyone acquainted with Temerian politics or the "sorcering" community. And if there's one thing a socialite bard (and former Dijktra's informant) and a doppler merchant are good at, it's certainly hearing rumors about the VIPs in town, yes? So, even if Triss had already gone into hiding, they ought to have known she was there not long before, and trying to reach her couldn't have been more dangerous than dealing with a sadistic crime lord. Now, imagine how straightforward the plot would have been, had Ciri found Triss in Novigrad.
An excellent video as always, thanks for your hard work.
These details missed videos are awesome. Even though I have played through twice xLetalis just keeping coming up with new things I have never seen. Gives me the same awesome feeling and nostalgia I got from playing the game.
It's amazing how much effort you put into these videos, love the details, love the gameplay recordings, love the dialogues and love the outro as the cherry on top 💕
Loved the video so much this time, keep them coming 😍
I'm tempted to just do the opposite thing on every quest possible just to see if there are any more interactions hidden in this beautiful masterpiece of a game.
These sorts of videos with many details are the type to stretch out for weeks on end. Good stuff.
You are one of the few CZcams people I wait for. Love your content.
Great vid! I spent hours reloading and trying different ways to do this quest. thank you ^^
I get so excited for your videos dude. Keep up the great work
Will do my best :)
It’s honestly amazing how much content is in this game
Far as I remember, the man in blood and wine whom you have to escort to take photos of wildlife will also give you the full amount you ask
Top tier video, thanks Xletalis.
Hey man, it's really cool and made me happy to see the suggestion made it into one of your videos. Also, thanks for the shout out, I appreciate it :D
hey there! Thanks again
Thanks for another great upload. It’s so relaxing 😌!
Great as always
Between the disabled beggar & the addled beggar, their dialogues have me LAUGHING 🤣
You know what warms my heart? New videos by xLetalis. You know what warms my heart even more? The fact that, unlike some shady bloggers, xLetalis never deletes comments
And comments like yours warm mine
Thanks! Never would have thought about getting in through the Sewers or allowing to be spotted.
Hey xLetalis,
I enjoyed watching the video it was quite relaxing. I hope you are doing well on the other side and I appreciate these videos.
Take care
I like those hints at traps and ambushes! Thanks man!
One thing I wish I could mod in: flaming red eyes for Geralt when he's angry/seriously annoyed.
Nearly a 15 minute long video again, you are definetely a legend!
It's so funny how the moment you said charodeiki I knew you were Bulgarian, and then ofc you confirmed it haha, great to see a fellow Bulgarian having an amazing channel with such growth! I enjoyed the video, keep it up!
Damn XLetalis keeps surprising us, I never seen half of the stuff in this video ever!
I always go straight to the addled beggar since it's the fastest way but it's great to see all the alternatives 😀
You can also haggle for the maximum amount in the B&W quest, "Big Game Hunter," but surprisingly it isn't because of any sketchiness. The Count is just a rich, stand up guy.
FINALLY! more novigrad stuff love it
It's spooky that every time I wondered about something about the game, I suddenly come across your video with the answer. I was wondering about the sewer entrance just the other day. I never found it... now I know! Thank you!
Im still surprise that i just found theres still new content about witcher 3 in 2022 , im in love with the game since 2022 and i cant even finish it because its so good
11:10 what a polite gentleman
About those times when the quest giver will agree to any amount of money you name, which should make you start being suspecious - there is a bard in Toussaint who wants you to find the local barber. He sure agrees to pay you any sum, but in the end you'll find out that he never had those money and was planning to pay you in installments during the following year. The barber will pay you instead, though, but still
Excellent video, did not know about the sword draw parts. But damn Felicia Cori and Chapelle the doppler's burning always gets me. Cori was so enthusiastic in the Witcher 2 and Chapelle's story is a Witcher book favourite
There is a secret dialogue in toussaint. During the quest 'big feet to fill' you need to go and find all 5 workers. However if you visit the workers at plegmund bridge before the quest step, instead of it completing. You can actually get into a fist fight with one of the workers.
Was just thinking will xLetalis will release another video😁
At the quest where you have to travel to Skellige to fight the Hunt (after you have gathered everyone), at the point where you have to get to the ship to set sail, one of the sailors upon the ship will say "Why is there never enough rum?", referencing of course to Pirates of the Carribean.
Great post , thank you
my pleasure
i love your videos man
I knew all the other ways except for the sewer entrance. Gotta try that one. Thanx!!
my pleasure ;]
You can also Jump and run your way in, over the rooftops. Is a bit tricky to start, because you have to go over a market tarp. But I have not reserched that option
Somehow in all my years, the Menge speech was what I missed.
yeah it is easy to miss ;]
I honestly thought that the sewer entrance is just a myth😂. Btw, you may have said it in another video but i remember that when you were talking about the meiersdorf family (the halfling one), you said you wonder if doing this quest after saving rico! changes something, and im just doing this quest. Rico is standing there still beaten up and geralt said something about him but the father doesn't acknowledge that rico is back(seems kinda broken to me). Also this may be a well known fact that i just didnt notice before but i still find it inreresting
or at least i think its him, im not so sure now😂😂
Love alternative pathways. On my second play through is the sewer entrance.
Wonderful!!!!!
Great video as usual 👏🏼.
One thing I noticed in this game: there is a lot of exact npc faces, and thats a bit weird for a game that care so much about details.
yeah, probably due to the not-so-high budget
Can't wait for the remaster to release so I can replay this game all the way through again!!
I don't care about the hater, I love my Triss...
For some reason I used to lost the thief most of my playthroughs and only managed to followed him once or twice. Didn't even know about the ambush.
I have to say, that's a lot of stuff to be able to find the Putrid Grove, sure it's a main quest and it's normal to be more fleshed out but still.
Huh, in all my playthroughs I never actually once went to Putrid Grove through the sewers despite hearing that dialogue.
Really should try that approach next time I play through the game.
I see Triss. I click.
Wow that's so much fun....the ambush thing....I usually keep a safe distance. And the sewer entrance is worth a shot too. BTW fun fact. ...The King of Beggars is based on a real person or persons in 17th Century Paris.....he ruled the Parisian underworld. The Court of Miracles they called it.....sounds better than the Putrid Grove.
interesting!
xLetalis is the most dedicated Witcher 3 player.
I think I found two little secrets: on the gate to toussaint you can sometims hear the palestina song, which is made by an medieval german writer walter of the vogelweide. The second is in Toussaint you can find on a board a message from le patallion which says that an other poet, a johann Wolfgang from weimar is a lieer. A clear reference to johann Wolfgang of Goethe, the famoest german writer.
Never knew the palestina song was in there (just heard "Tutos floreo") have to check it out next playthrough. You mean with "gate" right the area at the beginning of BoW where Gerald arrives with the knights?
@@oliver.n278 I meant the entrance to beauclair. When you teleporte to the metinna gate you can hear a musician and sometimes (not always) he plays the palestina song.
@@alexandereichenschild102 Ah there :) Thanks.
07:40 - This is the best ever dialogue in the history of the world, need to find me a freak!
I don't find so much good videos, like before on YT. But everytime when xLetalis comes up with new details, (I dont't know how he do that everytime..) it's like a new witcher story. I know some of the details, but mostly I get suprised... "What this path is possible...??"... F.e. second thief. Thank you xLetalis. 👍
I didnt know about being able to scare the 2 different groups of thiefs by drawing your sword and the big one is I have never seen any of following the blue thief! I cant believe it since I have played this so much lol.
I missed you bro
Nice vid
thank you :)
Great game and would love to see a sequel.
I just discovered the entrance after years of playing that means just one thing 🤪 another walkthrough
God damn, hearing xLetalis say "kurwa" was not what I expected out of my evening
От известно време ти следвам канала, но чак сега разбирам, че си от България, имаш наистина добър английски. Thanks for the detailed guides btw, I really like how organized they are!
11:02 that's one of the funniest finishing blows I've seen holy shit xD
So I've never had to wait a day after speaking to the addled begger. If you ask him about being addled and then immediately ask where the grove is he will just tell you to ask him again, and you can do so immediately.
Great video as always.
Funny that. I never entered through the sewers. I will next time. Great video, as always😊
If you want to join the addled one up on his perch, you have to take a good long run and Jump, from the square side, Geralt will grab ahold of the ledge. - Nice view. Pity you can't sit with him
Not sure how many people caught it, if any. But that kiss with Triss at the end credits was golden. Got a solid laugh out of that one. Thanks 🤣
Best CZcamsr ever
10:05 An additional note here, the key isnt just disappearing after the quest, it is also unavailable before the quest, leaving a very narrow chance of opening these doors, I was very disappointed in my last playthrough xD
Interesting, since the quest is one of the first things you normally see in Novigrad I didn't think to try going there earlier!
Ha! Yen giving Geralt the evil side eye at the end
Wow, I had no idea there was a secret way into the Putrid Grove. Will check it out the next time I play the game.
All the hours and play-throughs and I had no idea about the secret entrance with the gate.
I was experimenting on parkouring in the roofs of Novigrad. I think I found a way to get in Putrid Grove through the roof that's seemingly put there by the developers. on the north side of the compound you can found a scalable cart, right next to some tents that will take you you to the scaffolding where some NPCs are fixing up the structure. Follow the scaffolding, that will take you on top of a courtyard where bandit are waiting for an ambush, following some scaffolding on the left you can finally find yourself on the roof then its just a matter of jumping roof to roof until you're on top of Putrid grove and decent from there. I've not tried this while on the mission itself though, can't find the save to test it out yet.
Never mind, found a save while on the mission, I've successfully gotten into Putrid Grove, but it doesn't spawn in Triss and King of Beggars yet.
„Boring outro“? It´s kinda iconic xD
Never knew there was any other way to the putrid grove other than following the thief... Wow.
That outro thou!😄
There is another way to get into the putrid grove! I found it on my recent playthrough a few days ago: If you walk onto the square where Hattori is going to be later (I think it's that one), there are two thugs who talk about entering the Hideout. They say the password and also mention the way through the sewers. They also talk about how they don't like the gatekeeper for his weird passwords and prefer the sewer entrance. If you listen all the way through their conversation (with witcher senses, preferably) the other options will disappear and you get the objective to enter the grove through either way.
Oh that's nice, does it actually show the sewer entrance on your map in that case?
"I'm not a thief" - proceeds to loot Triss' house, as well as every box, crate, and old barrel he ever walks past.
I WANNA PLAY THIS GAME FOR THE FIRST TIMEEE (i played like 10 times dlcs included)
Did you know the family you find while following the luberkin , by going to see the crones 1st & then killing she who know’s geralt will tell the guy he’s seen anna & the marks before.
I do, but I don't think I've mentioned in a video before
@@xLetalis you should do it. 😬
2:20 your pronunciation of these words is beautiful (I am Pole)
thank you :)
0:56 Geralt out here doing the gangnam style dance 💀
Actually you can learn about the secret underground entrance to putrid grove while you go around the novigrad and listen people. I don't remember where but there were some people talking about it and when I stop to listen quest updated. I enter the same way as the video described and got the same ambush.
Kurwą is used like punctuation in Polish, believe me😂the second word might be 'to', Polish for 'are'. The inscriptions complement the sketches of a naked woman on a broom and... a mushroom and a lotus flower rather nicely.
"to" makes sense!