The One True Fighting Game - Divekick
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
- For many gamers, fighting games are the up there in pinnacle of complexity. Precise and specific inputs. Constantly playing mindgames with your opponent. And a very steep learning curve if you’re serious about getting competitive, mean that when you’re first getting into the genre, it can be a little bit frustrating.
But what if I told you that for a time, one of the most popular fighting games in the world used only two buttons? No joystick, no d-pad, just two, giant buttons. This is the story of a game that tried to bring simplicity back to the fighting game genre. A game that parodied and mocked the very community that embraced it.
A cult classic which took the FGC by storm, and appeared at some of the biggest tournaments in the world. This, is Divekick.
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An important bit of context you missed: the reason they were joking about having a game with only dive and kick is that divekicks are exceptionally good in every fighting game. Any character with a divekick ends up top tier. Being able to change the angle of your jump is a tremendous tool that can counter anti-airs and often leads to combos. See: Yun, Gouki, Cammy, and Rufus.
does Chun-Li count?
@@erdood3235 i dont think she really dive kicks
@@erdood3235 Chun kicks but without the dive part
zero suit?
@@AWrenNamedRen leave smash outta dis 😭
"is that all you ever do in your house"
Jeez this kid just returned a crit of emotional damage against jwong LOL
justin wong "YOU GONE LEARN TODAY"
that kid was the real winner imo lol
@@GetOffUrPhone I mean, he didn't know at the time but he was getting to play against one of the best fighting game players of all time. That is pretty neat.
@@GetOffUrPhone lmao, no.
Dive kick is such a gem, you know their concept is good when you can have a competitive match with your Mom that barely games.
The perfect fighting game for the post-arcade, Dave & Busters era. This deserves its own cabinet, with two giant obnoxious buttons. It would fit right in beside Doodle Jump--the platformer that has only a giant joystick, which only moves left and right.
That they cancelled their Kickstarter is the real story of all this. Classy move.
This game was featured in a Core-A-Gaming video called "The Simplest Fighting Games" along with a few other modest gems. Naturally now I'm wondering if Fantasy Strike will also get the Akshon treatment as well 🤔
fantasy strike is pretty awesome to me. sadly the player base is tiny
It's a small but caring playerbase. Still wished the game got more attention, though. It's honestly one of my favourites because of how quickly people get into the mind games.
@@QuartzIsAnOxide It would be bigger series if the artstyle was more appealing
@@treebush It was updated recently and looks a lot more polished imo, but it _is_ a small company, so it's never going to look like Street Fighter 5. Mechanically the game is pretty solid, though, and insanely balanced. I've seen people win tournaments with every character except for Arg, which I can't say for other fighting games.
Very unfortunate f2p handling with that game.
Good video but it was an oversight not to detail how oppressive dive kicks were in FG games of the time and how that landscape influenced Divekick, i.e. SF4 Rufus, MvC3 Wolverine, MK9 Kung Lao, etc.
It wasn't just parodies of FGC community members and FGC memes; it was satire on several fighting game metas.
Keits kinda alluded to that in the interview of how he first came up with the idea. You can tell he was being annoyed of Divekicks and thus came up with the joke.
yeah. Yun divekick, Doctor Doom divekick, and the like were hilariously strong.
I can't believe you picked Wolverine and not Dr. FOOT DIVE von Doom
this couldn't be any further from the truth. divekick came from that fact that doom in mvc3 literally screams put FOOT DIVE every 5 seconds and the fact that he's one of the top tier fighters because of it. hence the whole game based off the one foot dive
@@maiastniki Fam, the first 2 characters were based on Yun and Yang. Game came out not long after SF:AE when the twins (especially Yun) were absolutely broken. We wouldn't get characters like ̶W̶o̶l̶v̶e̶r̶i̶n̶e̶ Redacted, or Dr. Scholls until later
"Divekick daily but it's a weekly event don't worry about it"
That's probably the funniest thing in this video 😂
Divekick is what you’d call an “affectionate parody.” Yeah, it made fun of the FGC and fighting games, but it did so with a sense of genuine affection.
You can only make a good parody if you love the source material. Anything else is just petty.
@@WilhelmScreamer This is why The Orville is so good, you can tell there's a genuine love for Star Trek in the writing room.
If "Beauty in simplicity" was a game.
This game is so fun. I remember trying to recreate it in SF4 with yang and yun lol
We need more unique fighting games like this. BIG shout out to LETHAL LEAGUE BLAZE!
Absolutely that game is amazing.
This game answered my prayers when it came out. My locals were all really mad at me because they couldn't deal with Amaterasu in mvc3, and the common refrain was 'If my character was as simple as the dog, I'd win every time too!' (Or you could stop playing Hsien-ko, but what do I know) Cue the simplest game ever. So simple it's actually a joke, and I'm winning there too, but now their humiliation is a funny joke. I know this is the one true fighting game, because I've seen it take a man from the cockiest thing this side of a chicken plant into a pillar of pure salt in under thirty seconds. Simplicity is also efficiency, after all, and the FGC is nothing if not an industrial salt mine.
I love this game. The Frosty Faustings Divekick attendees got lucky that I top 8'd SFV this year or I was gonna come body everybody with my disgusting Kenny.
Lmao, funding the game via Kickstarter would've been so appropriate.
a kickstarter game that actually gets released at a playable state? simply unbelievable
@@brunop.8745 he meant because it's named DIVEKICK
@@brunop.8745 There are so may though.
Kickstarter? More pike divefinisher
Honestly, this game really proves how good your footsies are.
Even tho it has no footsies
This game looks so much fun. I love when people don't take games too seriously, and this game seems to portray that perfectly. And yet it still has a lot of complexity.
This is the only Fighting Game I can play
That, "FRAUD DETECTION WARNING" never fails to not get a laugh out of me. 😂
One of my favourite fighting games of all time highly engaging
I remember spending hundreds of hours on this game with brother. My brother enjoys fighting games at a casual level unlike me. I’m not the best player or anything but I like learning the games. This game is the one he took to heart and beat the shit out of me lol. It was so fun learning this game and playing it with my relatives. We had like an annual tournament that we did every summer break. This game was too much fun!
8:55 love the microphone kick
I will never forget seeing Ed Boon losing his shit at the first time he saw Kung Pao at EVO 2012
This is still one of my regulars on the PS Vita next to MvC3, DoA5, Injustice, and MK9. Just a stupid funny and fun game.
The only local 2p fighting game on vita!
THIS IS HOW IRON GALAXY WAS FOUNDED???
This was my high school experience 😩
As always ya'll are shining a spot light on underappreciated titles.
That's one of my favorite things about this channel.
I dream of the day they do a DOA video...
I don't even play fighting games, but i love to learn about lesser known competitive games
I glad you guys made a video on dive kick 😂
My girlfriend and i played this for an entire night and it was so fun
What a cool little game! I like that story, and I like how it ended.
1:17 Mad respect to the epic collar sweat generated by the gravity of this import interview.
I’m going through my old backlog of games on Steam because I recently got a Steam Deck. I had no idea what this game was until watching this video. Must have gotten it in a Humble Bundle or something. I’ll have to try playing it with my nieces and nephews.
Game is the definition of less is more
Great vid as always!!
I remember playing this game on the PlayStation Vita - can't get any more niche than this!
I really want you to cover more obscure e-sports story like takahashi meijin, 80s japanese gaming legend and hudson caravans competition, 80s japanese e-sports tournament with bomberman, star force and many more hudson game played competitively there
wow this is completely random but u just made me realize that the character meijin on the f2p game let it die is a reference to takahashi because he's supposedly a skilled gamer that gives u a bunch of tips in game when he's not playing at his arcade cabinet cool to know he's a legit person and noteworthy too
finally the divekick Video, love the game
Can we talk about how they added The Baz in the game which is a reject Street fighter character design popularized by fighterpedia and the superbestfriends?
Man this takes me back, seeing old players like toko, meteloaf, and argenrost, hearing of the the dailies again, and getting Frauded by Argenrost live. My hands are sorta shit at combos but I love the mindgames involved in fighting games so this game was perfect for me.
I unironically remember when everyone and there mother in the fighting game scene was talking about divekick. How much of a middle finger it really was and great it is.
got here before 10k views and was not subbed. Suffice to say, amazing video, youtube is pushing it. Got a new sub now
It shows that the best people who can make a good joke about a community are the people within the community
Truly, legendary
Divekick is legit one of my most played Vita games.
Divekick snd Footsies should be part of an FGC Starter Pack bundle
What else should be in it?
I would throw something in on the opposite end of the spectrum like an anime fighter where you've got to grind 20 hit combos into your muscle memory. BlazBlue maybe?
Fantasy Strike to complete the "Easy to learn, hard to master" trifecta lol
@@13Kr4zYAzN13 great point!
nidhogg for some swordsmen gameplay.
@@James-pb8xu THAT’S the name!
XD
I like how every character has a distinct move set, despite the fact that all you do is dive and kick!
Almost forgot about this game. Such a funny concept of a game. xD
It took KOF XV (a very execution heavy game) being launched and the antecipation for the LoL fighting game (possibly another execution heavy game) to the renaissance of this game.
I got to beat eSam right after he won that CEO belt, good times.
Thanks for the vid
God bless Divekick.
Could you possibly consider delving into OnRush at some point in the future? Hugely underrated and undersold imo as a thematic/gameplay lovechild of Overwatch and Motorstorm. Any potential updates have unfortunately yet to happen. It's a shame, y'know?
Using kickstarter to fund the game's creation is just *chef's kiss*
Didn't finish reading the title, thought this was gonna be about Kyanta.
"Get the project off the ground" is low-key the best statement for the beginning of this game.
Imagine how hard the Divekick 2 roster would go in this current Content creator era!
For some reason the only thing I think about when I hear dive kick is door stuck
Yes
Been a fan since it appeared at Pax East
Im surprised they didn't mention the fighting game called "footsies" I like how it makes core mechanics the main focus over infinite or broken combos..
excellent video
4:44 ooooh its the one character that stylistically doesnt fit with the rest of the game because its a reference to another (often retro) game! I love that character that is sometimes in fighting games.
So I'm obviously a year late here but The Fencer is like that cause he's a guest fighter from a different indie game, that being nidhogg. His art style is just directly lifted from that game
@@KrissyBlues yeah I think I knew that a year ago, if I didnt, I know now.
I played this with friends and at pax east 2013 or 2014 I frauded one of the developers that was playing anyone who lined up. Won an extra copy of the game lol. One of my favorite memories and I always loved the game. We played mk9 and this lol. Now a decade later I'm actually into fighting games for real, about to attend a local in fact.
I want this game back for evo
doctor doom would be proud he shoulda have had a cameo lmao
Just watched justin wing for the first time ranking maybe 50 games or so. Seemed so chill. Then i see first clip of this lol.
Can you feel the storm!?
I played this all it once at the EVO it came out (was it 13 or 12)... seemed kinda cool, then didn't hear about it for a minute
... and some of the chars look cheesy as hell
I need to find this online divekick community and join it
So this would be a good game to train newcomer's mind game skills.
It is, and people seem a lot less off put by it than Fantasy Strike or FOOTSIES. If you want PvP practice Fantasy Strike was the most active in my experience.
U GONNA LEARN!!!
I remember this game, good times
This has made me realize just how much 2D fighting games have defined the fighting game genre as opposed to 3D. Dive kick is simple, but it's still all about space control and movement within that 2D space. But all the rules and intricacies of a 2D game become mostly irrelevant when it comes to 3D fighters like Virtua Fighter or SoulCalibur.
I kind of suspect that part of the reason Tekken is as popular in the FGC as it is has to do with it playing more like a 2D game, with the best defensive tech being backdashes that allow you to still block as opposed to the riskier sidesteps in VF. Tekken also seems to be more footsie based as opposed to the Rock, Paper, Scissor mixup mindgames of VF or DOA. Even SoulCalibur, which has you choosing between horizontal or vertical attacks, does still have an emphasis on space control with the varying weapon ranges. I think the Netherealm games do draw a bit more from some 3D fundamentals, since in those games mid attacks can actually beat crouching blocks like they do in 3D fighters, and you don't have to rely on jump ins or only one slow overhead
I guess my point is, while there are many types of fighting games, it really does seem like the FGC in general (even including things like the Smash community) really is mostly concerned with what's a more narrow style of gameplay, based on who can control and move through space better, as opposed to high-intensity, fast-paced RPS, where every move has a hard counter and you need to choose the right one.
But maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Just feels like there's a whole other side of fighting games that is being neglected.
That Jwong clip has done unfixable damage to the FGC can’t believe y’all would play it
Hahahaha omg, this made my day, I hope your joking 🤣🤣🤣
@@NigerianNinja-d6h it’s a huge joke on Twitter some dude was complaining about the clip, I’m just carrying the joke
Eh just another hot topic in the FGC that won't matter in another couple weeks
@@iP3RFEKTIONoO haha oh thank god, I've seen it now, what is that guy smoking 🤣
Needs a switch port. Playing this while drunk would be hilarious. The fraud detection warning might need to be optional
Fraud detection is literally the only reason if want to play this 🤣
@@asrea9704 Yeah but it shouldbe optional as it may be too toxic and if someone is too good at the game it may detur a noob from ever touching it again
Nah keep it and keep the choke avoidance thing too, it's part of the games identity
Bald man once said It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning is winning. Even if its one move or fireball.
Family
Dope
Saw this thumbnail and just said "yeah"
I f***ing love this announcer!!!!
The accessibility factor of this game is something I seriously wish more fighting games had. Like, I used to play Guilty Gear a lot, yeah? Back when Accent Core was around. I played it a LOT. I did the whole Git Gud thing. The more I advanced though, the more I found that whoever I was playing with just... wasnt having much fun (outside of events and such). Why? Because as a couple of friends put it, they just couldnt pull off the crazy moves/combos that I was doing, or that they saw in some videos, whatever. They hit a point where they felt like they couldnt compete, and once that feeling sets in, the fun drains. And for me, if my opponent isnt having a good time... neither am I. Most of my friends ended up just sort of dropping the genre entirely, because no matter where they looked, every game was like that to a degree (with Smash being the only exception I can think of at the time... but even that got bonkers at high levels).
Divekick though? It's an example of what I wish the genre could be. Even a new player could pull off all the fun moves that they saw the pros use. Yeah, they may not quite yet grasp the ideas behind those moves or understand how to REALLY use them, but the fact that they could do those moves AT ALL increased their confidence. And the one hit KO thing meant that, even against a particularly tough opponent... they might still win a round or two. After all, even a pro makes mistakes, and it only takes ONE hit... what a confidence boost if THAT happened, eh? And, on top of that, the game didnt take itself seriously AT ALL. It was funny, the moves were totally goofy. The developers went in a direction that other fighters seem to avoid, and it just increased the fun factor even more. You didnt even need to get the in-jokes at all to get a laugh out of it.
And then, best of all, if those new players kept up with it? They'd start to see real progress of the sort that, previously, they thought they couldnt achieve. It showed them that yes, they really CAN do it. And maybe they could handle other fighting games too.
Seriously, the genre needs more of that. And I really wish it had more. These days I dont really play fighting games anymore... when my friends' interest vanished, so did mine (yeah, I know, I could play people online or something, and that's nice and all, but... without them involved it sorta lost all meaning). And maybe they could regain that interest if something like this was out there.
Anyway, just my thoughts on it. A lot of fond memories associated with this game.
Bless up
Footsies and Amongus Arena are the True One True Fighting Games because they are perfectly balanced with all the tools. Divekick is the most accessible fighting game
I remember watching Dashie play this 😂
1:26 holy shit is that the pogchamp guy?
yeah this is before he became a crazy time traveler from an alternate future
His name is gootecks
Really need Orange Cassidy in this game.
yeah..i just bought this game on steam
They need to bring Divekick to the Switch.
man I loved this game. Is there still a scene for it? I should look into that
This was such a fun game to play, we made a drinking game out of it
10:10 wtf esam with hair
It was a different time
Back when Esam liked to use the N word good times.
Dive Kick is Too Hard I dont have tha REACTIONS to play that game lmao hahah ;D
1:40 looks like pog champ man
DIVEEEEE KICK !!!!
Lmao at jwong teaching the kid a lesson in life 😂😂😂😂
Dr.Doom: FOOT……FOOT DIVE
@1:15 random Pogchamp cameo
Are there still weeklies that go on for this game online would love to play?
As much as I love Divekick I don't think it holds up today as the most raw and simple game that embodies fighting game fundamentals. That title definitely goes to Footies by HiFight
Cap
This game better one day be on switch
This is Dr. Doom's alley.
This game can literally be played on atari controller
Look at old not crazy Gooteks.