A PURPOSE FOR NEW LONDON | Faith vs Order - Frostpunk Rap Battle!
Vložit
- čas přidán 9. 10. 2019
- Frostpunk tells the tale of a world lost to ice and storm and of the city you must build to save the last of humanity. Will you fight for order? Or choose the path of faith?
A huge thank you to 11 Bit Studios for sponsoring this video and to Dan Bull for collaborating on the project! This game was genuinely my game of the year when it was released in 2018 so I’m honoured to get the chance to return to New London for this project to celebrate the game’s arrival on console!
Frostpunk Official Website: www.frostpunkgame.com/
Get the game on:
► Xbox One: www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/fro...
► PlayStation 4: store.playstation.com/en-us/p...
And you can check out the Frostpunk's Signature Edition here: bit.ly/2VuQWFL
Also check out Dan’s alternate ending: • FROSTPUNK RAP BATTLE -...
-----
Check out the full Stupendium originals playlist for all of my original songs!
STUPENDIUM ORIGINALS: • STUPENDIUM ORIGINALS
THE STUPENDIUM ON SPOTIFY:
bit.ly/Stupendify
THE STUPENDIUM ON GOOGLE PLAY:
bit.ly/StuGooglium
THE STUPENDIUM ON iTUNES:
bit.ly/StupendiTunes
CREDITS:
Words: The Stupendium, Dan Bull
Music: Dansonn (dansonn.com/)
Video: The Stupendium, Nick J Henderson ( / nhenderson1987 )
Extras:
Mr Menfolk ( / williamdouglas234 )
CaptainBaconz (@CaptainBaconz)
AbiG666 (@_AbiG666_)
General Ayatomi (@GeneralAyatomi)
Scott (@GayNightStand)
Nick J Henderson
Special thanks to:
Imbue (imbuesource.com/)
Lizzy CJ
-----
You can support The Stupendium on Patreon!
/ thestupendium
Grab your official Stupendium Merchandise! Shirts and mugs and hats, oh my! stupendiumstore.com/
Join the official Stupendium discord server!
/ discord
Drop me a tweet? @TheStupendium
The Stupendium is a musician, animator and content creator, creating weird, wonderful and usually incredibly nerdy songs and animations. Join them on their journey to obscure, niche internet stardom! They have some pretty decent videos, wonderful facial hair and a great sense of discomfort describing themself in the third person. - Hudba
Are you a devout believer or an iron fist pariah? Check out Dan Bull's alternate ending! czcams.com/video/ADwUlpdR_PA/video.html
This is just the first of our planned collabs! ;)
LYRICS:
[VERSE 1]
Gather brothers, gather sisters, soothe your blisters by the fire
Though our bones may ache and groan we know our spirits never tire
The temperature’s low but our purpose is much higher
What’s behind us mustn’t blind us to divineness that transpires
Now her spires have expired, well she rests in each of you
London’s not a place - it wasn’t left beneath our boots
And by grace we have been blessed with that most elegant of truth
You stand here not abandoned but as testament and proof
For a city is its people and it’s people are it’s heart
Stood together ‘gainst the weather, ‘gainst the coming of the dark
Ne’er a lantern has been lit with oh so righteous a spark
When providence claimed continents but provided us an ark
[VERSE 2]
We moved north as awful forceful storms removed borders
Forced to leave the warmth behind, the daylight hours grew shorter
Unable to read at night, the people might dispute lawbooks
Ushering the death of Joy, Division made a New Order
Brute force and discipline ensures all the citizens
are chipping in sufficiently under threat of imprisonment
Liberty’s prohibited, retired It’s mandatory compliance now
To keep the fire alight we need to stamp any defiance out
We can ill afford the price of human rights nor pay the cost of anger
So we stifle scrutinising eyes astray with propaganda
The only way that we can pull through, is under cruel rule
If a single person falls out of line, we all do
[CHORUS]
Morning gathering or evening prayer
We still battle for a season fair
We still huddle in the freezing air
For a summer that’s not even there
If the sun won’t rise on our horizon
We’ll march on to spite the skies and
Find that wheel of progress so well worn
Brought us no shelter from the storm
[VERSE 3]
I have heard there are those who would defy us
Who’d choose oppression o’er ascension for the pious
Dissidents without repent are bent on questioning the dias
Twisted iron fist pariahs and their heretic messiah
Winter blizzards to infinity so sing the hymns and litanies
Hand in and skin the sinners if you wish to skim divinity
Each shiver will deliver us deliverance in time
Burn the innocents for penitence if we preempt the crime
I’m protector of the truth - great erector of the new faith
Defectors and objectors can expect a second doomsday
Unquestioning our destiny, relentless we pursue fate
Alone I have been chosen to be spoken through by true grace
Frozen omens say we should invoke another crusade
[VERSE 4]
We rush to crush dissent from those who claim we must repent
how could a benevolent God subject us to such events?!
Against the elements, precious seconds each of us has spent
completing Public Penance could have been invested putting up the tents
Pragmatism’s borne of pessimism, not a full blown
pestilence, infecting desperate residents with false hope
Now they’ve sworn oaths, and pledged commitment to a cult, no
mercy will be shown or quarter given, fetch the coiled rope
And hang them by the necks until it’s taut, the lesson learned is certain:
No forgiveness for giving attention to those worthless sermons
No measure of faith will keep you warm or sate your appetite
So pray heed the warning or we may just have to tax your life
[CHORUS]
Morning gathering or evening prayer
We still battle for a season fair
We still huddle in the freezing air
For a summer that’s not even there
If the sun won’t rise on our horizon
We’ll march on to spite the skies and
Find that wheel of progress so well worn
Brought us no shelter from the storm
[VERSE 5]
Now the book of laws has closed and it’s pages shine a light
As the people fill the shrines in line with my divine right
This battlement of sacraments, as chattel to our rite
The sacrilegious and recalcitrant shall vow or face the smite
Non believers shan’t deceive us, we shall greet their cheek with grievance
In this ceaseless season we redeem the meek with bleak obedience
Seeking each unheeding heathen, see them bleed or plead allegiance
Blessed be relief from freedom; lest ye feel the need for treason
since the precept was decreed, its certainty was predetermined
mere herds of sheep are people, thus they need to be subservient
‘Neath so turbulent a firmament the worst of men survive
Pray their mercy may preserve us once we touch the other side
I'm a huge fan of your work, I loved the Mr House rap, I play it while I'm studying lmao it's amazing
The Stupendium You and Dan bull are always ❤️!!!
I almost forgot how good you are at the art this was amazing
Hmmm Burn us in our....
"This is just the first of our planned collabs! ;)" 😍
British people when it snows slightly
English people* Scots and Irish guys would never behave like this.
@@kolsveinnskraevolding Wales just doesn't exist now huh?
No this is the British without their tea
@@isaacw9789 this is true
Michael Miller
Nope, Mate. We have safe houses for that Emergency, monuments of the Queen in each to bless the tea bags so it provides warmth to the Tesco store within.
Much like Issac W said.
What I love is how the rap thematically progresses down the tech tree for Faith. If you don't go too far down Faith, it stays a benign and more hopeful option, much like the first verse. But each additional step you take down that line makes it darker and more insidious...until Order seems better because at least it's honest.
Always has been
In the end is chossing bettwen a false hope for a better day or a cruel reality but whit actual solutions
I agree. If you're forced to choose between admitting freedom isn't an option anymore or given the opportunity to lie, it's better to admit that freedom isn't sustainable anymore.
“At least it’s honest.”
Propaganda would like to have a word.
@@Ydrakar The propaganda tells you being in a dictatorship is good though
"If the Sun will not rise on our horizon, we will march on to spite the skies!"
Is an amazing motto.
That line honest to god sounds like some sort of inspirational quote about finding your own purpose while being chillingly ominous, i love it
"For a city is its people and its people are its heart" became my motto for the No-Deaths optimal play.
That's the most hardcore, chilling optimism within despair sort of line I have ever heard.
“Hand in and skin the sinners if you wish to skim divinity”
That was...sudden.
It always is.
I just returned to this wow that's dark of me.
And yet, it has a deeper meaning that reveals the self aware cognitive dissonance of the Narcissistic presentation :3
Aka: a Freudian Slip.
To :Skim, is to remove the surface of a thing, often with negative connotations of theft. Skimming profits for example.
"Engage in this inhuman action if you wish to corrupt God."
Funny how both start as selfless causes, but slowly become focused on a single individual.
Thing is, even at the end, the Captain may still have the best interests of the people at heart. As the storm closes in and gets progressively worse, we see riots, raids, hoarding, even drunks getting rather too forward with some of the women. Even as a totalitarian despot or theocratic demagogue, the Captain may still be acting in what he believes is the best interests of the most people. Gathering absolute power to one man is a terrible responsibility, as from then on, every single death, every single minute of suffering, every disaster and every triumph is on their shoulders and theirs alone and they must be FLAWLESS, or at the very least, the best possible choice. That's a responsibility and power that can corrupt the best men, but you know what they say about the road to hell.
@@Archris17 honestly from my experience in frost punk while both have thier pros and cons I definitely think the order option is the best choice even if it's more volatile due to the fact they do establish order in a time were tensions grow
@@thecrtf4953 I would disagree, but I got to admit it has been a while since I last played the game. I thought that Faith ultimately gave me more... morally acceptable options without sacraficing too much in order for the last City to survive. With faith you can decide wheter you want to go down all the way on that road or wheter to keep it somewhat moderate, while with Order you have no choice but to go down all the way if you want to reap a bountifull harvest of efficiency by pushing the people well beyond their limits and see the weak and brittle crushed down to debris and being thrown into the Mortar that'll turn them into the mass to further cement one's totalitarian rule.
That is not to say that Faith if followed down to the path of fanatism isnt appaulling either, but if you keep it somewhat moderate, you ultimately give the people what they need most in such dark times: Hope. The hope of an end to the long dark, the winter, a hope for humanity, a new start, the mere hope of survival.
It's ultimately hope that makes the people keep pushing onwards despite the odds and give it their all. They say that a chain is just as strong as it's weakest link, but I think the community and the people in Frostpunk, in the last City, are not a long chain, at least not a chain of steel, but a chain of candles...
Even one candle can ignite a hundred more without it's own light waining and every candle lit is a new hope, and a candle on it's own may be snuffed out quickly but take a thousand candles and you have a bonfire, a bonfire that can give warmth, light and guidance.
Rhetoric aside, I simply think that indeed the support network and the buffs you get out of it on the grand scheme, simply outweight the 'special commands, issues and other powers' you get from Order... but who knows, maybe they have patched it by now and reworked it since I played it back then?
@@MajorCoolD fair enought, but with order yopu get Access to prisons and guards, giving a way to deal With crime and not having to institute faith keepers, which I think are far worse than prison guards.
The true test of a man's character is to give him power and see what he does with it.
Interesting how the Faith seems to start good and the Order evil, but as the song progresses, the Order explains their reasoning, while the Faith begins to show its dark side.
And then in the order video the opposite happens
i mean order has propaganda. lots of it. and im not comforted by the bloody snow with "disloyal" written above
@@gamerhurley neither am i comfort with bloody snow with "Sinner" written above.
@@CeoOfTheBOIS I didn't notice that one! Thanks for the detail.
@@CeoOfTheBOIS could you point that out more, I don't exactly see anything saying sinner in it
I like how faith has better flow because faith is seen as a nice and smooth peacefulness but order is a little more jagged and aggressive with delivery. Amazing
Well to get things to be done you need law and order to get things done if only we can have a good way to do it
@@silverbloodborne9495 yet faith can instill order. Crimes will be avoided and seen as sins, And believing in a higher divine purpose instills hope and motivates workers into working harder, especially under such extreme and apocalyptic conditions. In fact, theocracies existed throughout history, in which government officials were regarded as divinely guided people. So I respectfully disagree as I see both ways effective for “governance”, and were it not for the gameplay bonuses of order (And because how I see that faith keepers take away the beauty of religion as opposed to guards from a moral standpoint) I actually find myself more drawn into the concept of faith and religion.
No faith was more smooth because the stupendium wrote it, not dan bull
@@shanesauce7738 This. The op literally complimented the song because of how the "order" side was disorderly like what?
Order for me I think...
that you can get more people to work... And you can just remove the New order And you Are still the good guy
Does anyone else notice the difference between each sides of the chorus? The first half sounds like a gospel hymn, while the second is more static and evenly spaced like a war drum or a March.
Glad you picked up on that! I wanted to reflect both sides musically in the chorus. :)
@@TheStupendium certainly was not expecting a reply from the man himself, but thanks! I’ve just recently gotten into a bunch of your songs and this one has to be my favourite so far! And thank you so much for adding all those little details for people to hear and add that extra emotion to it!
@@TheStupendium Cant wait for more :DDD
I picked up on that too. its the same with the Shelter form the storm rap
My favorite part of this song is probably how, despite the major differences between each version and each side denouncing the other, the final lyrics, while still reflecting each group, are somewhat similar, as if to reflect that the two are similar in their restrictions or oppressions.
And yes I know it’s probably just done to make the whole “two endings” thing easier
Nope! That was the intention! We wanted both factions to end up coming to the same conclusion to show how tyrannical both sides and end up becoming! :)
@@TheStupendium they have the same purpose and goals but the different ways and different approach right?
@@TheStupendium honestly I think I prefer order then. Why have tyranny that makes you waste your time in praying if you can have tyrrany that puts your time to good use.
@@cyborglion4179 A soul without faith is a shallow husk. Mankind has always needed faith and always will. The day that we abandon faith, is the day that Souls light will not await us in the morning. And on that day we will freeze to death, both figuratively/metaforicly and literally.
>Faith vs Order
The Imperium of Mankind: Why not both?
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
Gravyheart Now I really want to see Stupendium's take on a 40k rap.
@@gregorforrest5402 right? Just imagine.
We demand blood for the blood god and skulls for the skull throne,
If ya don't comply, then we'll suck the very marrow from your living bones!
If ye wish to get in with us and to be a bother to the others, your only words should be, "BOLTERS, BROTHERS!"
Hmm yes the worst of both. I think I will take a double shot of death and loyalty.
B R O T H E T
"if the sun won't rise on our horizon we'll march on to spite the skies". I can't explain how much I love that line
I never realized it until now, but Stupendium does a really good "preachy" voice. it works especially well here like wow. I would love to hear more preachy rap from you dude! XD
Actually, that’s the main reason I keep listening.
It's totally insane how good Stupendium is as a preaching zealot. He switches between "we are blessed, my brothers" to "skin the heretics, get ready for a crusade" like a sine wave. Which is further multiplied by his voice
@@nolanstrife7350 It's the public speaker's voice. The same charisma that keeps fanatical dictators in power. The House Always Wins is also great for hearing him do that.
I absolutely agree with you, this is my number one out of his songs for this reason alone.
I believe it's because of the 'a anger business man behind a desk' niesh he took over, and a prest is basically, south, of that
~~no it's not there just both excuses to be over the top~~
*Dan Bull* : So how many references do you want in the song ?
*Stupendium* : *Yes*
Freus, you imply Dan wrote all of it. Just not true 😝
@@angibrat2757 whats thats sound?
Whooooooosh
@@janeferraren kid...do you...*do you even know who you're talking to?*
Oh for GOD SAKE, NO MORE REFERENCES
@@angibrat2757 *lmao* you fail to do it
"if that sun wont rise on the horizon, we'll march on to spite the skies" is a good representation of humanity's determination to survive through disparity, and a good summary of Frostpunk's story. well written, gentlemen.
"If that Sun won't rise on our Horizon, we'll march on to spite the Skies."
That is an amazing line. Like, even if things don't improve, you just say "Fuck you!" to the world and keep going, keep on surviving.
I might be interpreting too much into one line, but that is what I read out of it.
True, though the earlier lines of the chorus convey the same sentiment
That kinda the point of frostpunk
That’s kinda humanities whole thing, we are so extremely adaptive that we’ve taken residence in all parts of our earth, while other animals can’t survive out of their preferred habitat we are thriving everywhere.
A very Warhammer'esk line. It is very powerful and i love it aswell.
"I might be reading too much into one line" except that's the thing with stupes: if you ever think you see a meaning in a line it's probably intentional
This has to be the best chorus I've ever heard in a song.
"We'll march on to spite the skies and that wheel of progress so well worn"
Wonderful line of writing and it so encapsulates Frostpunk
I wouldn’t have discovered this absolute gem of a game if it weren’t for your amazing songs, so thank you!
Same
mee too
Mr. Miyagi these songs convinced me to buy the game.
Me to
Can't wait for the lobotomy corp song
I understand that learning Shakespeare can be difficult to learn. I too have difficulty understanding his poetry. But perhaps if poetry, such as this where to be presented to modern students in this format, then perhaps they, including me, could grasp the concepts of complex poetry, and have a better understanding. For at his time there was a type of English language that doesn't truly adhere to English of modern times. But this rap is construed in a way that presents sophisticated poetry structures , but at the same time conveys complex concepts that are understood by modern audiences.
This is a fantastic comment
@This is a comment Thanks!
This is truly one of the comments of all time
This rap really displays the power of transcendent language. Both raps are excellent, but there is this emotional core to Stupendium's that really captures the feeling of a sermon.
"When providence claimed continents, but provided us a Ark"
What a powerful narrative to rally behind. big props.
"If that sun won't rise on the horizon we'll march on to spite the skies" is such a powerful line.
With that cadence and delivery, I'd love to see Stupes do something, anything with Warhammer 40K.
With that voice, he could probably do a really good Lorgar. Honestly, I’d love to see him do something akin to a preacher in 40K.
With the new Total war games I would like to see a fantasy rap battle or song too
ALL IS DUST!!!!!
I love how you made references to the choruses from both of your other frostpunk songs
Dachyshun He has two other?
2?
Nick Games Right, he has only made Shelter from the storm aside from this one
@@banared frostpunk rap song Dan Bull feat. The stupendium is the second one
Nick Games oh ok..
"neath so turbulent a firmament the worst of men survive, pray their mercy may preserve us once we touch the other side"
What a powerful line.
The "I've heard there are those who would defy us" part had me shaking, incredible delivery
Waveform seems like something out of an old Disney movie
my only question is
are their hearts cold?
................or are they just cold hearted?
Order is cold hearted whereas Faith is heart cold.
So do they pray to their lord
...or their foreman?
Both~
That the sun might rise in the morning?
@@lillypad6936 they told them he'll was warm?
This was absolutely fantastic!! holy moly that was so powerful!! both you and Dan bull did a fantastic job, and that chorus OH MY LAWD that chorus was the icing on this frozen cake. Well done!! :D
Thank you so much! :D
Icing on the cake? I think you mean frosting. ;)
To be truthful, the delicious irony encapsulated within the combination of lyrics and melody is quite irresistible.
Delicious indeed
A good joke
@@TheStupendium icing still works
Ice
1:57
The Stupendium: *takes out dictionary and starts rapping from it*
And accurate too
"Hand in and skin the sinners"
Thats... Chilling.
"Fetch the coiled rope and hang them by their necks until its taut, the lesson learned is certain, no forgiveness for giving attention to those worthless sermons"
This is even more so...
@@YourLocalMairaaboo You've never seen a man skinned alive. Hanging is a mercy in comparison.
@@occultblasphemer5972 yeah. But it sounds as if they are about to hang them by the dozen at the time.
Henrique Martins cant be worse than the refugee scenario where they do it naked
@@occultblasphemer5972 Doesn't order tie a person, then scold them with steam and leave them to free to death?
'now her spires have expired'
i like how that sounds to my ears
I'd be a devout follower of someone with such linguistic mastery and symphony.
Should get ppl learning English to watch this vid haha :D still amazing
@@FrenziedMew I've learned more than a few new words from watching these videos! :D
"If that sun won't rise on our horizon we'll march on to spite the skies."
Now that's a hell of a line
Order is maybe cruel,but its being honest about it
stupendium is literally modern shakespeare
I acknowledge that this is super nerdy...
But I love the vocabulary.
Rather intellectual.
Nerd
Its the best part of all his songs
Too cool for school.
Who won the prophet of mustaches or a dictator of bulls
The prophet of British mustaches. The dictator can go be English somewhere else
You have no idea the level of lyricism you just performed
He might did, if he didn't he would do it again till something amazing come out
H E M I G H T D I D .
@@ONE-vt1fz HE DONE MIGHTA DID DONE THE DONE DID THING! YEEHAW!
This song still makes me wish there was a scenario in the game where you had to manage order vs faith factions who slowly went more & more off the deep end until you either had to join one to crush the other or face an open civil war in the streets
I know the Last Autumn has something like that but between the workers and engineers. It's not quite the same, but just like faith vs order, both sides have laws that make them go off the deep end.
"the worst of men survive; pray their mercy may preserve us once we touch the other side"
I know the tone is way different but honestly this reminds me of
"I prayed for a car but I know god doesn't work that way, so I stole a car instead and prayed for forgiveness"
*sees rap battle*
*TRIGGERED*
Anybody can make rap battle but Internet serch only food ones.
It be like that sometimes Cam
@@elmcilvane6263 what
@@specimen5481 what do mean what?
@@anintellectual8499 i dont understand what he said
Shelter from the storm was one of the first raps that introduced me to the channel, and I've since been filled with anticipation and excitement whenever I see a new video in the feed.
Needless to say, I've yet to dislike a rap here, but the frostpunk raps seems to hit me especially hard.
Loved the hints that poked towards the first one, great work all around! Looking forward to more.
I love the symbolism in this, especially the part with the propaganda posters.
And how both sides of the argument become the same towards the end. A good example of how in any situation there will always be those who will seek to gain power by any means.
Completed a faith playthrough just the other day, but I stopped at Public Penance. Let the sinners repent and be welcomed once again, for dogma will not serve when simple faith and community will not an without those foundations, any spire we build is sure to crumble. Allow me to add my own verse?
As your captain, I'm not a man for praying - there's too much to be decided,
Food and shelter balanced, weighing, scripture risks making me misguided.
But I recognise the need to believe in some higher purpose,
A sacred creed so fear and hate will not yet usurp us.
And while I may not kiss the cross, nor thumb the pages of the bible,
I place my faith in each of you, humans at their heart are tribal.
We stand together in the cold, each hand in hand and hearts uplifted,
For with love for brothers, sisters all, through the snow see - the sunlight glinted.
Please do more verses
Sunlight?
Reject the dawn machine, brother. The zee is dangerous enough without its accursed ligh- THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN TH
@@hackr6751 uhh, wrong dystopian victorian fantasy setting, pal.
Very nice!
Man, this is really cool. Great verses.
This rap just sent chills through my body, weird for such a hot tune
Ahhh, memories.
This was the first song I heard from Stupendium, thanks to Dan Bull.
It's amazing how quickly they became one of my favourite musical artists.
Not CZcams musical artists, but all time favourite musical artists.
Their talent, creativity and humour are things I could praise them for all damn day long and easily stands shoulder to shoulder with my other favourites, like Miracle Of Sound, Dan Bull and JT Music.
OK, I'm done kissing their arse for now.
Awh jeez, thank you so much for the kind words! :)
@@TheStupendium
Thank *you* for the music and the positivity.
This was probably my 2nd after the Hitman 3 one...
2:16 I love how the red light catches his face when he looks down and how it's timed with his more zealous orders
Dan Bull and The stupendium... these two just made me an addict to their songs all over again. Must admit though, The Stupendium has quite the theatrical voice with a whole range of emotion and impression.
"if that sun wont rise on our horizon we'll march on to spite the skies" i fucking love that line
I like that when you boil down both sides of the rap, it literally is the same thing, just with a different paintjob.
Im not trying to be all r/enlightened centrism here, but its rather clever. In an extreme survival Situation like that of Frostpunk, a rigid set of rules will often be what comes of it, question is only from which you derive your right to rule. Is it by Divine right, some benevolent being from beyond whom you assure us are looking down and watching out for us, in return for our obedience?
Or Is it from our certain knowledge that Survival is paramount, and that if we stray from the road of progress and work, that we endanger each and all of our fellow man. No man has the right to take the life of another, so why should your laziness/freedom condemn the rest of us? Swear your Loyalty to the Captain!
It is rather Chilling.
Badum tish.
They may seem identical but differ gamestylewise like religion is all about holding your population warm, healthy (more or less) and happy even in harder times while order is boosted production and ways to incarcerate naysayers
Brainbot Jezebel he meant similar in the sense of ideological roots as opposed to same in gameplay. Both are totalitarian survivalist systems with simply different justifiers for their actions.
@@Ryanfinder226 only as totalitarian as you are ready to go
i wouldn't call centrism enlightened myself, but i wanna find a place we can all coexist, a place where we can all meet in the middle to accept one another or at least learn to live and tolerate each other. ultimately not picking sides and giving everyone a voice is the only way to do that effectively, but its a lonely road, a hard road and a long one instead of making thousands of fake friends i maybe have 1 or 2 genuine ones. instead of changing my views to fit into others lives? i keep my own trying my best to represent everyone, while becoming everyone's enemy for simply trying to help people understand each other. More often then not ill be shot as the messenger or made out to be the bad guy to act as a scapegoat for guilty consciousnesses. Plus i don't see whats wrong with trying to enlighten and open your mind to becoming a better person.
@@trexbra8715
Thats a pretty speech but here is why some people don't like centrism, for instance myself, after years of being part of it :
Imagine nazis are here. And they want to do what nazis do, purifying the race, all that euginistic racist stuff, you know?
Opposed to them we would have people who simply don't want to do that, nor to let them do that.
And then... well... centrists would come in and start saying that we should listen to one another and find a middle ground. Do you see the problem of a middle ground between normal and nazis?
Globally, going to the middle ground of violent authoritarians isn't a good compromise, it will already be violent and already authoritarian, and it will simply be a first step untill the next compromise, allways in the same direction, with a new "normal" becoming more nazi at every step.
Centrism are weak against Totalitarians. And totalitarians will never let such an opportunity go to waste.
As John Stuart Mill once said : "Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing"
Thing is, we don't have a huge amount of actual nazis nowadays... but we have something that might be even worse :
Everywhere around the world, nowadays, we see democracies' powers being diminished by the global elite, and when a nation tries to resist, a dictatorship takes its place.
The rich and powerful do not care about us, and will not stop profitting of ressources and rampaging the planet. They will destroy every once of democracy to maintain their power.
We cannot compromise with their ideology anymore. Our freedom and that of our children are at stake, but not only that...
Our ecosystem is at stake, our lives are at stake. They are indirectly murdering all of humanity.
I stopped beeing a centrist at the moment I realised I was being complicit of a global genocide and the end of democracy.
I love how both sides seem to fully believe what they preach but at the same time when listening you find yourself questioning if they do really believe in their own sides or acting in self interest? And that's my favourite thing about it
"If that sun won't rise on our horizon, we'll march on to spite the skies" is such a raw line, I love it.
''Each shiver will deliver us deliverance in time'' remind me, where've you heard that before?
We might need to find the keys for that
"Heave lads! Ho lads!"
immediately followed with part of a "burn the innocence / incense/ in a sense" segment
@@yoannbelleville7763 "Forget the comforts of home, you're a nomad!"
@@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook we've lost so much since we first started!
Majesty. Grace. Stunning. Chilling. All words that could describe this masterpiece. Dan as always was an incredible addition. Stupes as always had the voice that carries over any winds that could drown him out. Amazing work as always, you spiffing Brits you!
E
I loved how he vibrated his voice so it would sound like an actual sermon.
Chilling, you say?
Welp...
there I go.
I made myself out
with no way back in...
All the server invites are down for me so I guess I am banned, and I deserve that...
I shouldn't have done that from the first place.
Can I say one last thing...
I still got to do my drawing about you all and It wouldn't mean anything without you guys...
I know you are angry about me and I have no excuse for what I did other than I was a really bad idiot...
I have no words to say other than I am a big idiot.
...if you don't care, moppy...
I forgive you and all the server for that...
And I just...wanted to let you know...
@@nin3839 The server invites shouldn't be down for you. We banned the alt account but we only kicked the main account. You should still be able to come back?
That last line from Faith... I think the priest realized what kind of monster he'd let loose, but it was too late to stop.
That ending gives me chills. After such fervent preaching, certain both in faith and in the action taken, just to hear all that remorse in that final line. It just puts it a cut above so many other songs.
I see that "Shelter from the Storm" reference. And I appreciate it. Keep going you lyrical genius!
As well as the “Wheel of progress” line from the chorus of Dan’s frostpunk rap
*Which one?*
Stupendium: *makes this video*
Me: *high pitched fan girl screaming*
I love how at the end Stupes so easily switches from "SKIN THE SINNERS!" to " Hey guys! :D"
To be honest my man! This is my favourite song so far because it’s a beautiful balance between musical and rap but also with a hint of real world problems. Both sides right in certain ways but no side overpowers the other. And the chorus is an amazing summary of the game. A true masterwork
The chorus was amazing. It gave me the urge to see if church is actually like that. Sadly though, I am pretty sure I would burst into flame if I walked into one. Guess I will have to make due by listening to this over and over again.
Modern Religion has become weak and complacent and forced to bent to the will of men. You would nary burst into flames but rather burst into a Cathedral of those who put a faithful face for moral brownie points. This is what Churches looked like when the Lords above ruled us men down below. Not like now when a pastor must silence Gods words in the name of equality and tolerance.
@@S1152NA sad but true...
@@S1152NA God and Jesus were actually all for equality and tolerance you old fool.
@@ravenfrancis1476 God does not entertain the will of Satan's manifest made form in Human visage.
Omega Imperialis Imagine Thinking human rights are the will of Satan. You’re more like the will of Satan, Jesus would be ashamed of you
I laughed when the camera switched over to the people and there is Stupendium with goggles.
Yeah, it's funny that, even when he was singing, you can see that he is also in the audience, Faith and Order.
The opening chorus lines are just perfect!
Ultimately, the people don't care what path they take, as long as they get food, safety and shelter.
Being a Christian, I'd probably be on the side of the devout believers. This two-sides-against-each-other song has got me wanting to play Frostpunk and watch Captain America: Civil War! Great job, dude!
@Adrien Lasbleiz some forceful persuasion will change your tune. Order will keep us strong! faith will not fill those empty bellies!
@Adrien Lasbleiz you have got a point, but faith is no better. no matter the system of governing, if one person holds to much power, its going to end up in dictatorship. we can see this happens in faith as well, it starts out as a religion but slowly devolves into madness, righteous denunciation, protector of truth, faith keepers (faiths version of guards), public penance, and the new faith which literally gives the player complete and utter control over the city. same with order with forceful persuasion, propaganda centers, prisons, pledge of allegiance and new order. they're no different in the end.
@Adrien Lasbleiz The city started in this system, the leader being no different from everyone else, cold, helpless, and hungry. but as time goes on, discord sets in, forcing the captain to become distant. Beginning the fall into dictatorship. The leader may become a dictator in either faith or order, yet he can remain humane. the game makes you choose between absolute power in order to save the city or choosing to remain humane even in worst of circumstances; such as not abusing the power of order or faith, banning child labor, keeping people warm, and refraining from absolute power. I played as both groups, they both have their downsides and positives, but what I can tell order seems more efficient in keeping people from getting discontented, getting every last bit of efficiency from the workers. faith is more hope based with building more people based, rather efficiency; like field kitchens, houses of healing, temples, shrines, and houses of prayer. So I ask you which is better? neither of them are; they share the same goal, same ideals, yet mask it in two different ways.
I do not always post comments, but when i do, its because something amazed me
Truth be told, the first time i didnt get everyone killed immediately, i sided with Order, since i enjoyed the idea of being the dictator of a merciless regime. This video inspired me to come back to Frostpunk and go with the New Faith this time.
2:45 Order guy complains public penance is wasted time, but then admits that he reached the Londoners event and is still building tents and not bunkhouses.
I’m a devout and faithful follower of the Stupendium order long may he reign!!!
You mean Stupendium Faith, right? That's kinda the main thing I believe.
I stand for the Lord of frost
*Captain, we found one*
Long may he reign, in the true light of the 7
The fact that the sound changes in the lyrics of ``Morning Gathering or Evening Prayer.We still battle for the season fair.We still huddle in the freezing air.For a summer that's not even there. `` The faith is voice is louder and the order voice lowers and vice versa of ``If that sun won't rise on our horizon,We will March on spite the skies and find the wheel of progress so well worn brought us no shelter from the storm>``
I love how the last two lines have the same syllables and flow as the last two lines in Shelter From The Storm
“If that sun won’t rise on out horizon we’ll march on to spite the skies” is possibly the most badass lyric I’ve ever heard
Stupendium : *posts a new video*
My mouse: I a m s p e e d
HOLY [Nice words]! That was an astonishing experience. I think I have made it clear from previous comments how much I enjoy Stupendium songs, but House always wins, Shelter from the Storm, Art of Darkness and all the songs like them have had a special place for me, often having amazing rhymes, and this was no exception! The brilliant Believer side had more biblical words, whilst the fisters were more brutal in their approach. Not only was each side conveyed in a way that I could understand it without having played the game, the lyrics alone told me so much about the characters.
Hell of a song, going on my playlist as soon as it is out
My man predicted spamton a year early
@@greymon2255 ya girl* sure did ;p
its 20 degrees today
England: This is fine
USA:
Sir
These are the british...
I stg the line “if the sun won’t rise on the horizon we’ll ark on to spite the skies” is fantastic
What I like besides the rap is the slow changing of the backgrounds for both Faith and Order. You can see their slow and gradual descent into madness for their beliefs as the video progresses
A sequel to Shelter From the Storm, one of your best raps of all time?! Screw the cold, this is _hot!_
I love what you two did with your respective thumbnails. The Preacher looks reassuring in HIS video, but on The Dictator's thumbnail, he seems more menacing, whereas the The Dictator just looks cruel in both thumbnails, even his own. It reflects how people see the leaders depending on what side they're on.
Your costume department, in addition to everything else of course, is outstanding!
Thank you! That'd be my girlfriend and I, a lot of searching amazon and ebay for the right furs and belts and a couple of days crafting the custom parts. :P
The Stupendium I was always wondering where they got the clothes that’s neat
3:22 the window changes to reflect the executed priest
I feel like the Order part of the chorus is just a small adjustment from being about Snowpiercer.
"We'll drive on to spite the skies and that wheel of progress so well worn carries us through the storm"
2:27
Ohhh, he took off his hood. Now he's getting serious.
Alternate Ending Comparisons:
Faith:
Now the book of laws have closed
And it's pages shine a light
As the people fill the shrines
In line with my divine right
This battlement of sacraments
As chattel to our rite
The sacrilegious and recalcitrant
Shall vow or face the smite
Non believers shan't deceive us
We shall greet their cheek
With grievance
In this ceaseless season
We redeem the meek with bleak obedience
Seeking each unheeding heathen
See them bleed or plead allegiance
Blessed be relief from freedom
Lest ye feel the need for treason
Since the precept was decreed
Its certainty was predetermined
Mere herds of sheep are people
Thus they need to be subservient
'Neath so turbulent a firmament
The worst of men survive
Pray their mercy may preserve us
Once we touch the other side
Order:
Now the book of laws have closed
You've no hope to try and fight
As the people fall in line
And march in time with iron might
Non believers shan't deceive us
We shall greet their cheek
With grievance
In this ceaseless season
We redeem the meek with bleak obedience
Seeking each unheeding heathen
See them bleed or plead allegiance
Blessed be relief from freedom
Lest you feel the need for treason
Since the precept was decreed
It's certainty was predetermined
Mere vermin are the people
Thus they need to be subservient
They deserve paternal leadership
Eternally prescriptive
Turn a leaf in the journal
Weep as you read the scriptures
The book of laws is closed
It's frozen shut
And couldn't thaw
But should the storm subside
It might be time to write a couple more
This song legit made me buy frostpunk you dont have to believe me but its true after i watched this i was interested and started watching some gameplay of frostpunk and decided to buy it i have been playing it now for about 5 months
This game is just the average winter in Finland
Brr. I feel cold, probably just the wind.
I haven’t even seen this game or whatever, but I love the song ;-;
"no measure of faith will keep you warm or sate your appetite" this is basically why i chose order in frostpunk.
This is a fucking masterpiece, not even joking, it truly is, you two are just doing some REAL work, this one really got to my heart.
Not a minute of this 5 was wasted in the least bit to be honest. Such skill, gosh.
Absolutely mindblowing, the "faith" verses, combined with the track was just sublime! And your choice of "accent" or pronounciation really made it all shine!
When I am down and in need of uplifting, I listen the the Faith side of this song. When I am in need of motivation to work despite the pain, and grief; I listen to the Order side.
But no matter which end of the spectrum I fall on, I always listen to the chorus with a sense of warmth in my heart. As if I was standing among the faithful, singing along in the freezing cold.
You guys played your roles perfectly as specially Stupendium as the Messaih
This is amazing Greg holy crap, I love the little references to “Shelter From The Storm”!
The visuals are really well done too, you’ve never failed to amaze me with them of course.
You both did so well, great job!
First verse I already knew this would be fire. Such power and complexity in the voice, I love it.
Imagine doing this on stage where it starts with them singing to the audience and slowly turning to face each other
...As much as this is a battle, the chorus seems to argue that both sides are actually the same. "Morning gathering or evening prayer/we still battle for a season fair/we still huddle in the freezing air/for a summer that's not even there./If the sun won't rise on our horizon/we'll march on to spite the skies/and find that wheel of progress so well worn/brought us no shelter from the storm." They're doing basically the same thing for different causes and fighting with each other for no reason. It's not bringing either group shelter or warmth, and this division is just bringing their ends closer.
"Order VS Faith"
Anarchist Atheists: uhhh...
@Eddo aka Edds OH DAMN
Yeah, have fun freezing to death my man.
Militant Atheists: (laughs in fascist)
(this is a joke don’t yell at me)
@@smilemore7431 AHHHHHHHHH
Like any clash of ideals, it's important to consider the circumstances. During times of order, anarchism and religious skepticism become common, but during crisis people will often often turn towards totalitarian leaders or gods
You won this one Stupes! But honesty you both won in the end 🥰
Between this and wool over our eyes, I'm starting to worry that stoops might actually be good at making cults
I keep coming back to this, I cannot overstate just how well you nailed the chorus for this, dear lord man, it is so good.
Well I wasn't expecting a heart, let alone one an hour after I posted, a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
God, I love this...
Multiple endings, a powerful chorus and really nice references to "shelter from the storm".
Take our applause, you definitely deserve it!
"Defectors and objectors can expect a second doomsday" Amazing