I seen a lot of people mention try it without discernment scarab so I was like ok fuck it I can run 30 maps real quick and see how it feels. I CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP THE VERY NEXT MAP IT DROPPED 2 MIRROR SHARDS. WHYYYYY GGG JUST LET ME PUT IT IN THE VIDEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
@@Toralian89 Not really, had nothing to do with Abysses but everything to do with Wildwood juice. Abysses were just one of the better League mechanics at pumping out extra monsters. I got two mirrors last league and I farmed Legion + Strongboxes with heavy MF.
2000 hours, 1 hinekoras lock, 2 7 years back luck, 1 brothers gift, 1 doctor. the moment one of these dropped for me, nothing else dropped in that league
Got a mirror shard explosion within 200 maps (28 shards, no full stack conversion) but I didn't realize how lucky I was until I saw Jim's video. I swapped out the lucky shard scarab for +3 harbingers and my maps felt waaay better for t17 map drops, additional deli rewards, more beyond spawners, etc. though I didn't see a double mirror shard drop until 300 maps later. Lots of fracturing shards though, two shard stacks every other map. Dumb luck at the end of the day. Loved the editing btw.
got my second one in affliction on a hyper juiced 8 mod map spent 6 portals just trying to pick it up. gave my last one to the best player in general chat he spent a total of 3 seconds in the map before dying.
I tried this and realized its a mistake. Idk how the harbi scarab of discernment, but I presume it converts all shards dropped from the harbinger into one of the types that dropped. That means even if a mirror shard was to drop it may get converted into one of the cheaper types. Using that scarab essentially makes the game even more rng, as getting a mirror shard might be 1/1000 chance and getting all other shards to convert into that type may be another 1/1000 chance. You are better off getting just a single (or double) mirror shard now and then.
i run a MF toon on standard 175 Quant 150 rarity.. did Harbies strat..at least 2k so far.. no mirror shard drop.. and only 2 Fracturing explodes.. my buddy did Harbies casual.. got 1 Mirror shard.. go figure.. and yes i know MF does not effect Harbie loot drop.. but i like to think it does :) oh one more thing.. been playing POE since 2013 and have close to 13k hours played.. no Mirror drop.. so dont feel so bad lol..
im 1800 hours into poe i was doing strongboxes exclusively this league and duped a mirror, my buddy is at 10k hours with 1 drop so my reaction was pretty wild to say the least
I dropped a mirror shard from an harbinger that converted into a mirror begin of 3.25 with new changes. Really rare chance to convert it into an orb. Sadly cuz of that i couldn't get mirror shard explosion since i fully scaled harby on tree + used each scarab version. Was my 2nd mirror drop in total of 13k hours. First drop was somewhere when i had 4k hours from an random abyss chest lol.
Years ago, in old "Tala moana, warrior" times, I got mirror in act 3. It was my first time playing and I knew nothing about the game, not even about loot filter. So I just tried every orb I had on any item just to see what it does. I used my mirror on low level 2H rare axe and was like: "And that's it? Pff. Yellow-face-thing is so much better".
I quit the league early so didn't do any comprehensive science. But I kinda feel like the Harbinger scarab that makes it so you only get one type of shard is a bait. Profits just feel way more consistent without it and I think just adding +3 Harbingers to a map might be more profitable than the "higher chance for high value currency shards" you get from the Scarab. If you want a pure Mirror drop you definitely need the scarab though since you need to drop shards to procc the full mirror from your atlas. But think you need to expect to run like 3k + maps then x) Would be interesting to see some science on the profitability when not running that scarab.
Soo i did around 800 maps, around 250-300 i droped the scarab with single item drop, and continued with extra harb. Loot was much better, you earn more cash with annul/chaos and fracture orbs. On average, in 20 maps cycle, you get 4-6 fracturing shards, 28-32 annuls, 50-60c and 10-12exalts. Around 4div an hour just from harbs, not counting random drops.
I could have answered that question before u even attemped doing these:D btw I have been playing since closed beta, first time dropped mirror with the whole T6 Abyss Multi proj abyse with CA MF character, dropped HH one too, but never dropped Mageblood or mirror shard
I would say 99% of all players never droped even a shard, i dont even want to speak about a Mirror. I have over 20k hours played and also never seen any of these items, my best was 2 Magebloods from Gwenn in one Day :D (not a real drop but i count it ^^).
I mained 3 seasons farming Harbinger. The first one is the last league they swap divine and exalt, I got HH in 5 days. One is s24, boring, and quit quickly. In the middle one, I got 1 shard, and I remembered staying high for half an hour. And I alsp got two shard cards in that same league.
harbi farm in atlas is completely pointless. harbinger memory drops are insane when you are mf geared, tested it in affliction and got on average almost 1 fract orb per map. the only downside is that you do not get any loot aside currency shards
Dont wanna ruin your experience, but they silence nerfed it around a month into the league, 500 would have been enough even if unlucky around the first month, now you need around 2000, Somone did a run with 1k mf and 1k non mf on reddit, and it doesn't make a difference for harby, and with the nerfs of alc and go maps, it's not worth doing mf without a solid strategy, just a waste of time
@@WafflezLovesArpgs thank you my friend :) by the way, i have continued to try out your harbies strategy on which i started off very unlucky :) i got like 50 maps not a single shard drop but then i got 2 full fracturing orb drops in one map^^ it looks like its really a good strategy but i need to be patient and keep farming.
Ah my bad I should have mentioned why, so harbies have a low chance to drop a mirror shard and with this strat I was hoping it would drop 1 mirror shard then get duplicated and hopefully add up to a whole mirror in shards. Obviously 500 isn't enough but in theory it can happen.
I was doing 144 maps with essences(non boss strat) and made rougly 250d alone with the essences. And there were so many einhar drops, some good scarabs etc. But tldr, I really hope they get to nerf some too strong strats and buff others in the meantime. Meta getting so boring
See the trick was to just abuse affliction magic find to fix that no mirror drop :D I sold my soul that league and did the mf stuff for 3 weeks and dropped 2 mirrors and overall my main build was worth over 6k div at that point. I to this day somewhat feel that these mirrors do not count but hey.. :D Atleast now I can say I dropped a mirror, was the final "achievement" that was missing for me
That’s why they are called Garbingers. You literally have more chances to drop a mirror doing any other mechanic than this shit. I’m on a guild and so NO ONE dropping a mirror shards/mirrors with the Garbingers. All mirrors dropped either from B2B T17 barrels or strongboxes for a large majority of the guild.
I dropped a mirror in affliction from: A FUCKING REGULAR BLIGHT IN T16 xdd Most random shit ever. Never dropped a hh or mb and im playing since idk essence probably.
best drop i ever got in 3k hours was a 1 passive voices from spamming simulacrum when it was little better, the thing thou is i kill my mood to play more that league, simulacrums are boring as fuck.
4.5k hours, dropped mirror this league, in alch and go map in group self found hard core league... most disappointing mirror drop. What am I gonna mirror, ssf garbage weapon? oh, I can migrate it... to normal hc.
It’s shocking to me that I have not subscribed to you. I’ll fix that mistake right now. Joking aside, wouldnt it be better if you use double harbi scarabs instead of “drops a single type” one?
I looked into what other people ran before I started and most people agreed this was the best but obviously I didn't test it myself so....iunno maybe I run another 500 next league and see the difference.
Wow actually got so many fracture orbs in just 500 maps, I did also 500 and didnt get jack shit not even sustain chaos costs most stuff got converted to insanly rare engineering orbs and alterations with 8 mod maps 120% quant each. But why do I even complain I cant even get an ashes in 200 eater runs so I guess its still expected drops.
Ashes drops from uber eater now and is one the 2 common drops from uber eater (33%ashes, 65% ravenous and 2% nimis), so you must run normal eater or not had it on your loot filter... with that in mind you prolly fucked up on the harby strat aswell, not everything comes down to luck, more often then not its the lack knowledge thats a problem.
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I seen a lot of people mention try it without discernment scarab so I was like ok fuck it I can run 30 maps real quick and see how it feels. I CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP THE VERY NEXT MAP IT DROPPED 2 MIRROR SHARDS. WHYYYYY GGG JUST LET ME PUT IT IN THE VIDEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
GZ :D
Damn. Unlucky. I dropped 1 mb, got one in ritual, and dropped 1 hh.
3k hours here.
Well, that is what discernment does. Make you double down on the average and makes the outliers even rarer albeit more rewarding.
can somebody explain this pls so do I have to use only normal scarab ?
Your cuts with the drop sound effects to the music are FIRE. Hats off
25.298.5 HOURS = NEVER dropped a mirror, NEVER dropped a MAGEBLOOD. dont worry, you are not ALONE ................. !
mirrors were dropping like candy in afflication
maybe leave white maps at some point
@@aryasingh3358 only if you abused abyss spires exploit
@@Toralian89 Not really, had nothing to do with Abysses but everything to do with Wildwood juice.
Abysses were just one of the better League mechanics at pumping out extra monsters. I got two mirrors last league and I farmed Legion + Strongboxes with heavy MF.
@@Toralian89 imagine calling it exploit XD
The editing on this video is top tier haha.
Nice video and nice editing! The whole vid was entertaining. Wishing you more subs and better luck in the future ❤
I haven’t kept track but I have 5200 annul orbs, 500 exalts and 70 frac orbs….0 mirror shards…I’ve done a TON of harbinger this league
absolute headcase editing the drops to the beat. though after the insanity of 500 harbinger maps, its a big of a change of pace?
107 degrees and sunny. Are you on the sun?!
I just looked and it's gonna hit 110 today.....smile through the pain. :)
i live in kuwait which this year's summer is the hottest country and I think every year its second or first its currently 49c which is 121f
@@mo_4eyez437 I’m a spring and fall guy. I couldn’t do that.
+1 for the rhythm commitment
Your editing was S+ on the drop compilation, I wish more content creators that do these experiments did this as smoothly. ggwp
2000 hours, 1 hinekoras lock, 2 7 years back luck, 1 brothers gift, 1 doctor. the moment one of these dropped for me, nothing else dropped in that league
Bro, your editing is sooo good.
was fun to watch the drop edit, and the beat dropped as the loot did woot
erdtree dlc was so good, i know everytime i hear the music, i will feel nostalgic.
Got a mirror shard explosion within 200 maps (28 shards, no full stack conversion) but I didn't realize how lucky I was until I saw Jim's video. I swapped out the lucky shard scarab for +3 harbingers and my maps felt waaay better for t17 map drops, additional deli rewards, more beyond spawners, etc. though I didn't see a double mirror shard drop until 300 maps later. Lots of fracturing shards though, two shard stacks every other map. Dumb luck at the end of the day. Loved the editing btw.
love the editing on this video
Making beats with the loot filter sounds :)
Amazing editing and video style. Your humor is awesome too, keeo going dude you got potential!
Mirror shards should drop more often in juiced harby maps for sure.
6 league starters!?
My man, I love u and ur builds
I appreciate how you synced the drops with the beat...but you also need a stricter loot filter xD
good video, nice music, hope you get mirror in 3.25 ;)
Damn Wafflez, no need to go THIS hard with the music my GOD
first vid ive seen from you, mint rhythmic edits! subbed
If you like lofi, there's always Walking Dog
Bro ... that edit is awesome!, thanks for the content
I like this video style for POE
the amount of work to match the timing with the music. goddamn! nice vid
I've gotten a Seven Years Bad Luck card...once. Had a fracturing shard explosion this league.....once.
The editing effort was worth it
the edit was really nice i enjoyed that
really nice vidoe, thanks for the fun
500 harby maps this league was enough to get 3 fracturing shard drops for me.
got my second one in affliction on a hyper juiced 8 mod map spent 6 portals just trying to pick it up. gave my last one to the best player in general chat he spent a total of 3 seconds in the map before dying.
I tried this and realized its a mistake. Idk how the harbi scarab of discernment, but I presume it converts all shards dropped from the harbinger into one of the types that dropped. That means even if a mirror shard was to drop it may get converted into one of the cheaper types. Using that scarab essentially makes the game even more rng, as getting a mirror shard might be 1/1000 chance and getting all other shards to convert into that type may be another 1/1000 chance. You are better off getting just a single (or double) mirror shard now and then.
I hit my 7k hour mark and got a double mirror drop last league. Random normal monster just decided to give me and my friend 2
i run a MF toon on standard 175 Quant 150 rarity.. did Harbies strat..at least 2k so far.. no mirror shard drop.. and only 2 Fracturing explodes.. my buddy did Harbies casual.. got 1 Mirror shard.. go figure.. and yes i know MF does not effect Harbie loot drop.. but i like to think it does :) oh one more thing.. been playing POE since 2013 and have close to 13k hours played.. no Mirror drop.. so dont feel so bad lol..
Harbingers are so addicting
im 1800 hours into poe i was doing strongboxes exclusively this league and duped a mirror, my buddy is at 10k hours with 1 drop so my reaction was pretty wild to say the least
If u want dropped fracture and mirror shards don't use discrement scarab
I dropped a mirror shard from an harbinger that converted into a mirror begin of 3.25 with new changes. Really rare chance to convert it into an orb. Sadly cuz of that i couldn't get mirror shard explosion since i fully scaled harby on tree + used each scarab version. Was my 2nd mirror drop in total of 13k hours. First drop was somewhere when i had 4k hours from an random abyss chest lol.
Years ago, in old "Tala moana, warrior" times, I got mirror in act 3. It was my first time playing and I knew nothing about the game, not even about loot filter. So I just tried every orb I had on any item just to see what it does. I used my mirror on low level 2H rare axe and was like: "And that's it? Pff. Yellow-face-thing is so much better".
You know, reading can often be helpful
same feeling im play over 7 years over 10k hours still no mirrors
The edit, is insane.
Sick edition bro, I play poe with doom ost on the background, your work inspired me to edit my record similar way.
I quit the league early so didn't do any comprehensive science. But I kinda feel like the Harbinger scarab that makes it so you only get one type of shard is a bait.
Profits just feel way more consistent without it and I think just adding +3 Harbingers to a map might be more profitable than the "higher chance for high value currency shards" you get from the Scarab.
If you want a pure Mirror drop you definitely need the scarab though since you need to drop shards to procc the full mirror from your atlas. But think you need to expect to run like 3k + maps then x)
Would be interesting to see some science on the profitability when not running that scarab.
At that point id rather work half a day and buy a mirror. The grind on this game is becoming comical.
Soo i did around 800 maps, around 250-300 i droped the scarab with single item drop, and continued with extra harb. Loot was much better, you earn more cash with annul/chaos and fracture orbs. On average, in 20 maps cycle, you get 4-6 fracturing shards, 28-32 annuls, 50-60c and 10-12exalts. Around 4div an hour just from harbs, not counting random drops.
I could have answered that question before u even attemped doing these:D btw I have been playing since closed beta, first time dropped mirror with the whole T6 Abyss Multi proj abyse with CA MF character, dropped HH one too, but never dropped Mageblood or mirror shard
I would say 99% of all players never droped even a shard, i dont even want to speak about a Mirror. I have over 20k hours played and also never seen any of these items, my best was 2 Magebloods from Gwenn in one Day :D (not a real drop but i count it ^^).
The edit is sick asf!!!
I think I'm about 5000+ hours at POE and the closest one I got to a mirror is 1 mirror shard
awesome video. 10/10
just once I wanna see a video of someone getting carried on the first map
Great editing! :]
HOLY EDITING, unlucky bro, 6.5k hours no mirror also
Farm 500 feared, there is a theory that it can drop from feared sets, my friend dropped one in this league
Editing is insane
Holy edition!!!!!
Editing is amazing
I got my first mirror from harbinger. don't give up!
I mained 3 seasons farming Harbinger. The first one is the last league they swap divine and exalt, I got HH in 5 days. One is s24, boring, and quit quickly. In the middle one, I got 1 shard, and I remembered staying high for half an hour. And I alsp got two shard cards in that same league.
The last league before they swap*
I literally played only harbinger this league and 0 mirrors
Bro if you got a mirror in 500 maps I would be pissed. I've done probably 2k maps this season with harbinger and no mirror.
Here's my Sub! Great Video
harbi farm in atlas is completely pointless. harbinger memory drops are insane when you are mf geared, tested it in affliction and got on average almost 1 fract orb per map. the only downside is that you do not get any loot aside currency shards
only had one mirror shard to drop. and thats close as ill ever get lol
I finally dropped a mirror last league with the t7 cemetery cheese
Dont wanna ruin your experience, but they silence nerfed it around a month into the league, 500 would have been enough even if unlucky around the first month, now you need around 2000,
Somone did a run with 1k mf and 1k non mf on reddit, and it doesn't make a difference for harby, and with the nerfs of alc and go maps, it's not worth doing mf without a solid strategy, just a waste of time
GOOD JOB AND KEEP GOING MAN 😅
I’m a noob, first time doing harbinger, is it worth making 8 mods map ? Or just good mods and don’t care about item quantity etc?
thanks for the video
in this one screen you dropped a bunch of fracturing shards at once. was this a 3.24 specific mechanic or can this also happen in 3.25? :)
3.24 this scarab is removed now.
@@WafflezLovesArpgs thank you my friend :) by the way, i have continued to try out your harbies strategy on which i started off very unlucky :) i got like 50 maps not a single shard drop but then i got 2 full fracturing orb drops in one map^^ it looks like its really a good strategy but i need to be patient and keep farming.
I dropped my first mirror in 3.23 after 3500 hours.
Im a noob. can someone xplain why he uses harbiger modifiers for getting a mirror?
Ah my bad I should have mentioned why, so harbies have a low chance to drop a mirror shard and with this strat I was hoping it would drop 1 mirror shard then get duplicated and hopefully add up to a
whole mirror in shards. Obviously 500 isn't enough but in theory it can happen.
I was doing 144 maps with essences(non boss strat) and made rougly 250d alone with the essences. And there were so many einhar drops, some good scarabs etc.
But tldr, I really hope they get to nerf some too strong strats and buff others in the meantime.
Meta getting so boring
8k houers never even seen it :)
See the trick was to just abuse affliction magic find to fix that no mirror drop :D
I sold my soul that league and did the mf stuff for 3 weeks and dropped 2 mirrors and overall my main build was worth over 6k div at that point.
I to this day somewhat feel that these mirrors do not count but hey.. :D Atleast now I can say I dropped a mirror, was the final "achievement" that was missing for me
Im 100% confinced some Accounts cant get a Mirror to drop.
yeah nah. i stopped the first month at 1850 harbi maps.
this was not the play.
Lol and then in 3.25 my friends gets a mirror from a tier 1 map runner............
I have 6000 hours and got a mirror drop from T7 Cementery Affliction league. No mf.
How do you get the harbingers to drop all the same shards? Didn't play necropolis league
i did 1500 maps with harbi this league and only got 13 fracture orbs - 0 mirror drops aswell with high btb t17 farms
That’s why they are called Garbingers. You literally have more chances to drop a mirror doing any other mechanic than this shit. I’m on a guild and so NO ONE dropping a mirror shards/mirrors with the Garbingers. All mirrors dropped either from B2B T17 barrels or strongboxes for a large majority of the guild.
i play this for 11 years or so... well 1st day of open beta and yeah it didnt drop for me either...
I stopped farming harbingers after 400-500 when I got few frac orbs xD
Tier map is important ? Or its same in t1 and t16 for harbi drop ?
pob of that blade vortex build?
Sick edit. Like and subscribe !
I dropped a mirror in affliction from:
A FUCKING REGULAR BLIGHT IN T16 xdd
Most random shit ever. Never dropped a hh or mb and im playing since idk essence probably.
I didn't watch the video, I am here just to answer the title question.
No.
best drop i ever got in 3k hours was a 1 passive voices from spamming simulacrum when it was little better, the thing thou is i kill my mood to play more that league, simulacrums are boring as fuck.
4.5k hours, dropped mirror this league, in alch and go map in group self found hard core league... most disappointing mirror drop. What am I gonna mirror, ssf garbage weapon? oh, I can migrate it... to normal hc.
hi. can i have the pob for the bv build?
haha i dropped 3 mirrors in affliction within 3 days. but i also have 10k hours tho :D
It’s shocking to me that I have not subscribed to you. I’ll fix that mistake right now. Joking aside, wouldnt it be better if you use double harbi scarabs instead of “drops a single type” one?
I looked into what other people ran before I started and most people agreed this was the best but obviously I didn't test it myself so....iunno maybe I run another 500 next league and see the difference.
@@WafflezLovesArpgs do it! You can do it now
Wow actually got so many fracture orbs in just 500 maps, I did also 500 and didnt get jack shit not even sustain chaos costs most stuff got converted to insanly rare engineering orbs and alterations with 8 mod maps 120% quant each.
But why do I even complain I cant even get an ashes in 200 eater runs so I guess its still expected drops.
Ashes drops from uber eater now and is one the 2 common drops from uber eater (33%ashes, 65% ravenous and 2% nimis), so you must run normal eater or not had it on your loot filter...
with that in mind you prolly fucked up on the harby strat aswell, not everything comes down to luck, more often then not its the lack knowledge thats a problem.
@@kirneh89 dudes banging his head against a wall right now lol
harbingers are a complete waste of time (i have over 7000 hours and 1 mirror drop from legion)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... at least i know im not the only one with bad luck.. played since 2013 0 mirror drop still
bruv thats a lot of editing xd