Why do you think a bunch of reports will change anything? I can guarantee you gambling commissions and governments are well aware of these loot crates.
Bring to the attention of governments where EA get the most revenue that they are ALLEGEDLY (they are lawyered up so be careful) exposing children to gambling. Banning of fc points would financially hit them HARD
Why didnt you do it when FUT released? Its like these problems and the decline of the franchise have been going on for years now. But only now it seems people are waking up and realizing how shitty this company is😂 im glad ive stopped at fifa 19. and from what ive seen in friends games, ea literally copy pasted the whole game for the past 4 editions, including the same fking bugs that have been in career mode since fifa 21. this community is an absolute joke😂
Kurt made the greatest point about football games. It’s actually impossible to please everyone in terms of gameplay, half of people want slow realistic gameplay, the other half want arcadey fast gameplay. Unfortunately EA did neither and created a piece of trash with goofy animations
Yeah its a really good point. I know everyone talks about wanting fast gameplay but I think they're wrong. They want responsive gameplay, not fast. Fast is the reason you can't actually play real football, because they close in on you at mach 5.
If you make a game for everyone you please no one. The most successful gaming IP’s have always made their games for a specific target audience without giving any fucks about the rest. Obviously this is a no no for eaids they only care about numbers.
All EA have to do is remake the classic 7 fifas with the upgraded graphics it’s not difficult bring back divs with the old matchmaking system then get smoked off players with higher skill then u smoke players than your better than now it is the opposite and that causes a lot of the frustration
there is only one thing you can do to get back at EA, and it has nothing to do with FC24. Fc24 is finished. Ppl are invested already if they haven't quit back with Messi 0.7% bs, But if you really want to do something, dont buy FC25. I'm 1 for sure, thumbs up if your another 👍
@@modestbenthat doesn't make them scared enough as they should be , don't you know anything about boycotting? You literally leave the game completely if you really want to play this game even after all of this then not buying fc points is pointless
KSI is the reason I (and I’m sure many others) got into FIFA at a young age. While he doesn’t create content anymore, it might be worth a shot reaching out to him to speak out. His pull is massive and the impact of him speaking on the gambling aspect of store packs will reach the larger media outlets.
tbf, ive been positively surprised by how much of an impact it made pretty soon, the amount of videos and everything from the smallest creators ever etc was genuinely surprising to me and atleast ensures that ea realizes that there is a real threat for a big group of people to band together against them since theyve pushed it so far
23:06 ; The goal is to force change, the goal is to organize and show that as a community we have the power to affect the game we all love and play thousands of hours.
They can probably be sued for not putting up proper pack odds. A store pack will say 30% chance for TOTS. But what TOTS!??. They need to have odds shown for each individual player. It’s way too ambiguous and people are spending money while being misled. We know Mbappe is not weighted at 30%, so we need to know the weight before making the choice to open the pack
Nick, Nate , thanks for this coop video. You have full support of true fifa gamers . It’s is the time . If you guys unite as content creators , so will community around you. /. I personally haven’t bought any store pack since fifa 17. I get better team and coins profit without buying packs . I do support your call out to the community - STOP BUYING EA PACKS . For real and from now on . Hurt EA in their core so they start paying attention to community and start making necessary changes
Pick really started a revolution. I quit pifa after being a long time player and switched to eFootball but still watch your vids keep up the protest 🙏🏿
Nick, you probably won't read this but I just wanted to say what you've been doing the last few weeks is one of bravest, most honest and noble things anyone's ever done for this community - the world needs more people like you. Nate, love your content and your excellent market analysis, I swear sometimes I put your vids on and even if I'm not paying 100% attention I just want to hear you talk in the background with your smooth cool cat voice. I believe Nick has the passion, gravity and drive to create the momentum for this and I think it's rubbing off, feels like a now or never moment. Keep up the great work guys.
thanks for uploading the stream! it was great conversation moving forward with the push for change on EA side! i think the movement should continue! iam down to! i am sick and tired of EA scamming us left and right, Cero respect for the football player community!
I just started playing fc 24 since it’s free on ps+ I’m strictly f2p and refuse to spend money only really grinding objectives. Glad to see Nick taking a stand it’s exactly how I’ve felt for years but I don’t have nearly as much of a platform so he’s voicing most of our concerns
I usually don't comment or like videos, but this is truly amazing! I had to comment and like that video. EA is the biggest scam! You could start a petition, and I'd be the first to sign it just to bring this company down. I'm so upset about all of their changes. How could they give me Salah with all these nice traits, and then just a week later remove them or make changes so you can't use them? It's like buying a Bugatti, and then a week later they call you saying, 'By the way, that's a Toyota.' Not to mention the money and time we have been putting into their game.
I watched many fifa content creators. You 2 are the only ones I still watch. It's also my last year. I had enough. But its healing to know its not me. I used to be top 200 and now I get robbed left and right. And I'm done playing more defensive every year. This game is the park the bus Olympics now. And real football has the same problem.
Well its at least worth a try and Not keep going how it is now because atm Fifa is a gambling Game for Kids and how ea gets world wide away with it is disgraceful and Not Even gonna Talk about Gameplay because there isnt a Word to describe that sh*tshow
Played my very first game since 18 today because my brother told me I needed to see. I won the game but my thoughts after it were how on earth was this allowed be released in such a shoddy state? Money has deffo gone in the right pockets at launch to give good reviews because any one with any sense can see that game needs pulling from every outlet going and then I hear they’ve put it on for free because they are losing players at an incredible rate. That company has no shame whatsoever in the off chance of some poor gamer stumbling on that free game and getting addicted. The rules to the “gambling” buying points need serious revamping similar to that country what have banned them. They have been allowed to roam free with it and now action needs to be taken because these are very dangerous people we are dealing with here obvs because they care naught for people’s mental health nor small kids.
I think they know a fifa point ban is incoming. That’s why they’re putting out all these gigantic packs. Hopefully we get a new game from the ground up soon. The frostbite engine doesn’t make for a good sports game
There’s multiple legal routes we could look into (specifically UK): GDPR: legally, you are not allowed to collect data on children under 13. Yet EA definitely does, and allows children to spend money. We could create a template to report to the Data Protection Authority in the U.K. and EU member states. GDPR: we could all make “right to access” requests to EA under the GDPR which would cost huge amounts to respond to, otherwise they would be liable for very large fines. Digital identification: EA does not even ask for any consent/identification requirements to open packs. This does not meet minimum standards for protecting children against gambling, or even for having their data collected. We could create a template to report to the Gambling commission or DPA. Happy to chat about any of the above Nick!
WWWWWWWWWWWW from NICK an NATE....its worth the try guys. W movement from Nick. We don't realise how big of an impact Nick's tweet had in the community. Its definitly a step in the right direction.
Respect to you 2 for not promoting coin sales. Others should stop if they're calling for no purchasing of store packs yet it's ok to buy coins that they promote. Don't be hypocrites like the others
That’s a fair point to make, but in reality these sites don’t fund EA it’s individuals selling coins from their accounts is usually how that works cuts EA out completely
@user-ni7qv1nd8o no, it's not genius. You get banned for buying coins because its against their user agreement. If it was EA selling then they would 1000% encourage it
So you dont think its a problem that people keep buying the game ever year, keep playing FUT and creating content based of the gamemode?😂 these players and content creators are all part of the problem because only thing EA cares about is numbers and money. So yes, even this guy here was actively beeing a part of the problem. I can only laugh seeing how this „community“ is only now callling out EA for their bad business practices 😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️
With the revenue and also that we know what packs cost, we could probably make an estimation on how many packs per user is bought per/big promo/day etc etc what ever metric you wanna use, it could be interesting to see, because if you get some of the community to not spend on fifa points, you can always look at the new revenue per next quarter or two quarters and get an idea of how many of the casuals are actually buying points, and then get an idea of how much power you actually have over things
Nick started this movement,even if it doesnt work out,and those shitters at EA wont listen,i will follow him for the years 2 come,he cares abt the community..
If we stop or significantly reduce fifa point consumption it will bring a number of benefits: 1. Much healthier and stable player economy. 2. Squads with a wider variety of players can be used promoting creativity thus unpredictability in an opponents line up. 3. May influence devs to increase ability to grind for icons/ good players in sbcs and/or rewards. There are many more points that touch on like user welfare etc. In conclusion it will encourage ea to reevaluate their approach to the game perhaps change it completely.
So, for the auto drop back part, I think I relatively understand what's happening in the game and why it happens. So, about 2 years ago in fifa 22 when they made the full switch to new gen, they advertised a "realistic back line" feature, where it's a uniform line that moves like in real life, so, what I think is the issue, is the way they coded that. They most likely coded it so that the player models are all connected to each other on defense, so if one moves into the box, they ALL do, which causes every single defender to pack the box, because they don't have a line of code that tells them that they can seperate from eachother.
If you live in the UK report ea to trading standards & the gambling comission. Time to get store packs out the game.
Why do you think a bunch of reports will change anything?
I can guarantee you gambling commissions and governments are well aware of these loot crates.
In some country’s the gouvernement have banned micro transactions
Like rn i live in belgium and you don’t have the ability to buy fifa points
You already can't buy FIFA points in Belgium, I don't know why other countries don't follow them
i live in Belarus, we cant even buy ea fc here & fifa points as well, even if you bought ea fc through turkish account
PLEASE dont stop!! keep it up guys
Bring to the attention of governments where EA get the most revenue that they are ALLEGEDLY (they are lawyered up so be careful) exposing children to gambling. Banning of fc points would financially hit them HARD
I like this
Start the petition
lmao if you think the government is going to care your sadly mistaken
Lmao man government will do shit and it fucking video game its should not go to fucking court or something
I will do it, don't worry!!!
One man cant change the world but one man's message can bring about the spark that changes the world 💪🏽👊🏽
one of the most strongest message ever from Pac🙏
@@JaydanPuriel 👊🏽
It's fifa ffs
@@revoksfn7354Shut up sheep
I just reported EA in the Netherlands for illegal gambling activity in a game played by minor's. You should all do that in your country
Waar moete we dat doen maat? Belgie heeft al verboden sibds vorig jaar
Why didnt you do it when FUT released? Its like these problems and the decline of the franchise have been going on for years now. But only now it seems people are waking up and realizing how shitty this company is😂 im glad ive stopped at fifa 19. and from what ive seen in friends games, ea literally copy pasted the whole game for the past 4 editions, including the same fking bugs that have been in career mode since fifa 21. this community is an absolute joke😂
Waar doen wij dat
@@mustafayildiz3039 op de site van rijksoverheid
@@mustafayildiz3039 Kansspelautoriteit. Rijksoverheid
Kurt made the greatest point about football games. It’s actually impossible to please everyone in terms of gameplay, half of people want slow realistic gameplay, the other half want arcadey fast gameplay. Unfortunately EA did neither and created a piece of trash with goofy animations
Yeah its a really good point. I know everyone talks about wanting fast gameplay but I think they're wrong. They want responsive gameplay, not fast. Fast is the reason you can't actually play real football, because they close in on you at mach 5.
If you make a game for everyone you please no one. The most successful gaming IP’s have always made their games for a specific target audience without giving any fucks about the rest. Obviously this is a no no for eaids they only care about numbers.
All I ask for is attacking is POSSIBLE down the middle, down the wings, from headers, and from long shots… scoring is fun
cl if u want slow realistic gameplay u play newgen and if u want arcadey fast gameplay u play oldgen
All EA have to do is remake the classic 7 fifas with the upgraded graphics it’s not difficult bring back divs with the old matchmaking system then get smoked off players with higher skill then u smoke players than your better than now it is the opposite and that causes a lot of the frustration
Im with U Nick!!! #boycottEA!!
Some of my favorite content creators ..The accountant always clutch with late night videos and we don’t have to discuss Pick 🐐
Fr bro
Nate is also a very nice guy
Warra duo
@@tysonc701 the duo we needed
Didn't know Eriksen was part of the movement #BoycottEA 🙏🏾👍🏾❤💯💯🔥🔥
there is only one thing you can do to get back at EA, and it has nothing to do with FC24. Fc24 is finished. Ppl are invested already if they haven't quit back with Messi 0.7% bs, But if you really want to do something, dont buy FC25. I'm 1 for sure, thumbs up if your another 👍
You've already bought the game not playing it isn't gonna hurt them as they already got ur money
@@modestben You did listen on how much of their money is made from FC Points, right?
@reddabos exactly u don't need to stop playing just don't spend fifa points
Yea i wont be going anywhere near 25 no matter what the promotional material offers and promises
@@modestbenthat doesn't make them scared enough as they should be , don't you know anything about boycotting? You literally leave the game completely if you really want to play this game even after all of this then not buying fc points is pointless
I loved this and watched it live at the time. Keep fighting the good fight!! 😀
2 of the best fifa CZcamsrs 💯
I send you my encouragement from France, don't give up guys please!
Not all heroes wear capes.
Yeah, like spiderman for example
KSI is the reason I (and I’m sure many others) got into FIFA at a young age. While he doesn’t create content anymore, it might be worth a shot reaching out to him to speak out.
His pull is massive and the impact of him speaking on the gambling aspect of store packs will reach the larger media outlets.
Haven’t played eafc in days feels so good it feels like life is back at its prime
What happens when you quit fifa
Please keep going at them ! We love that you’re getting there support from the community
There they are! My two favourite content creators right there. These boys always deliver
Two of my favorite content creators looking forward to the video!!!
Nick you’re doing the lords work brother🙌🏽👏🏽
Thank you Nick for working towards making a difference ✊
tbf, ive been positively surprised by how much of an impact it made pretty soon, the amount of videos and everything from the smallest creators ever etc was genuinely surprising to me and atleast ensures that ea realizes that there is a real threat for a big group of people to band together against them since theyve pushed it so far
Keep applying the pressure 👏💪
My two favorite streamers coming together 👏🏽
go boys, I stand with you, keep creating a movement!
23:06 ; The goal is to force change, the goal is to organize and show that as a community we have the power to affect the game we all love and play thousands of hours.
Two legends together in one video 🔥
Keeep it upp nick we love this from you
I quit this game like 2 months ago i feel great, happy with more money, keep doing this nick i love your videos
They can probably be sued for not putting up proper pack odds. A store pack will say 30% chance for TOTS. But what TOTS!??. They need to have odds shown for each individual player. It’s way too ambiguous and people are spending money while being misled. We know Mbappe is not weighted at 30%, so we need to know the weight before making the choice to open the pack
Absolutly on point!
i was about to lunch but this ACTUALLY CHANGES EVERYTHING
Nick is in the kendrick mode and I’m here for it 😂
Please keep this up guys we need to keep pushing back against EA appreciate both your efforts let's keep this going
Appreciate your efforts guys! I hope the rest of us players can help as well.
Nick, Nate , thanks for this coop video. You have full support of true fifa gamers . It’s is the time . If you guys unite as content creators , so will community around you. /. I personally haven’t bought any store pack since fifa 17. I get better team and coins profit without buying packs . I do support your call out to the community - STOP BUYING EA PACKS . For real and from now on . Hurt EA in their core so they start paying attention to community and start making necessary changes
Tbh I think if the community tried to get a video trending on CZcams homepage about this topic it would help a lot
Pick really started a revolution. I quit pifa after being a long time player and switched to eFootball but still watch your vids keep up the protest 🙏🏿
Nick, you probably won't read this but I just wanted to say what you've been doing the last few weeks is one of bravest, most honest and noble things anyone's ever done for this community - the world needs more people like you. Nate, love your content and your excellent market analysis, I swear sometimes I put your vids on and even if I'm not paying 100% attention I just want to hear you talk in the background with your smooth cool cat voice. I believe Nick has the passion, gravity and drive to create the momentum for this and I think it's rubbing off, feels like a now or never moment. Keep up the great work guys.
I havent played since FIFA 21 but Im invested heavily
best duo
2 of my favs YESSSSSSS lets goooo
Thanks for keep fighting Nick
thanks for uploading the stream! it was great conversation moving forward with the push for change on EA side! i think the movement should continue! iam down to! i am sick and tired of EA scamming us left and right, Cero respect for the football player community!
Nick is a legend for this movement
I just started playing fc 24 since it’s free on ps+ I’m strictly f2p and refuse to spend money only really grinding objectives. Glad to see Nick taking a stand it’s exactly how I’ve felt for years but I don’t have nearly as much of a platform so he’s voicing most of our concerns
Keep it up Nick. We need to stand up to this corrupt company.
I usually don't comment or like videos, but this is truly amazing! I had to comment and like that video. EA is the biggest scam! You could start a petition, and I'd be the first to sign it just to bring this company down. I'm so upset about all of their changes. How could they give me Salah with all these nice traits, and then just a week later remove them or make changes so you can't use them? It's like buying a Bugatti, and then a week later they call you saying, 'By the way, that's a Toyota.' Not to mention the money and time we have been putting into their game.
Thanks for the memories EA.
Rot. In. Pieces.
I watched many fifa content creators. You 2 are the only ones I still watch. It's also my last year. I had enough. But its healing to know its not me. I used to be top 200 and now I get robbed left and right. And I'm done playing more defensive every year. This game is the park the bus Olympics now. And real football has the same problem.
the crossover I never knew I needed
Was going to have breakfast but this changes everything
Keep fighting fella's, were all behind you!
A lot of people from latam are with you bro with this situation
Lets go Nate!!❤🎉
the goat nick at it again
My two goats.... this is a dream come true
These are my streamers!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
You are doing the job ! I love the way you invite all the big streamer ! Lets all boycott EA
5th pick yap podcast we will be there 🙏🙏
Nate the FUT accountant- Legend- great to hear his perspective.
I was abt to go to class but this changed everything 😂
You know it’s really serious when Pick is doing podcasts
Nate a real dawg
I stand with Nick✊
I stopped playing FUT in Fifa23 but I’m here for the saga 😂😅
they will never listen, we’ve been fooled by them too many damn years
Since 2009
Well its at least worth a try and Not keep going how it is now because atm Fifa is a gambling Game for Kids and how ea gets world wide away with it is disgraceful and Not Even gonna Talk about Gameplay because there isnt a Word to describe that sh*tshow
The only way they will listen is for us all to not buy the game this year. Simple
Just stop buy points and you’ll see
@@anto_repyep, but there is too many people who spent literally 100+ dollars every month
LEGENDS
you know how there M&M, well this is N&N great content guys
Played my very first game since 18 today because my brother told me I needed to see. I won the game but my thoughts after it were how on earth was this allowed be released in such a shoddy state? Money has deffo gone in the right pockets at launch to give good reviews because any one with any sense can see that game needs pulling from every outlet going and then I hear they’ve put it on for free because they are losing players at an incredible rate. That company has no shame whatsoever in the off chance of some poor gamer stumbling on that free game and getting addicted. The rules to the “gambling” buying points need serious revamping similar to that country what have banned them. They have been allowed to roam free with it and now action needs to be taken because these are very dangerous people we are dealing with here obvs because they care naught for people’s mental health nor small kids.
I think they know a fifa point ban is incoming. That’s why they’re putting out all these gigantic packs. Hopefully we get a new game from the ground up soon. The frostbite engine doesn’t make for a good sports game
Nick thank you because you talk what in my hurt,,,
The first 2 streamers I started watching when I got into UT! GOOOOOATS
Strong video. Keep going
#stopkidsgambling would be another hashtag EA would actually fear.
Keep pushing the agenda Nick 👌
There’s multiple legal routes we could look into (specifically UK):
GDPR: legally, you are not allowed to collect data on children under 13. Yet EA definitely does, and allows children to spend money. We could create a template to report to the Data Protection Authority in the U.K. and EU member states.
GDPR: we could all make “right to access” requests to EA under the GDPR which would cost huge amounts to respond to, otherwise they would be liable for very large fines.
Digital identification: EA does not even ask for any consent/identification requirements to open packs. This does not meet minimum standards for protecting children against gambling, or even for having their data collected. We could create a template to report to the Gambling commission or DPA.
Happy to chat about any of the above Nick!
WWWWWWWWWWWW from NICK an NATE....its worth the try guys. W movement from Nick. We don't realise how big of an impact Nick's tweet had in the community. Its definitly a step in the right direction.
Respect to you 2 for not promoting coin sales. Others should stop if they're calling for no purchasing of store packs yet it's ok to buy coins that they promote. Don't be hypocrites like the others
That’s a fair point to make, but in reality these sites don’t fund EA it’s individuals selling coins from their accounts is usually how that works cuts EA out completely
@@Bomdenga22 Jesus how naive are you guys, thats ea selling coins m8
@user-ni7qv1nd8o no, it's not genius. You get banned for buying coins because its against their user agreement. If it was EA selling then they would 1000% encourage it
So you dont think its a problem that people keep buying the game ever year, keep playing FUT and creating content based of the gamemode?😂 these players and content creators are all part of the problem because only thing EA cares about is numbers and money. So yes, even this guy here was actively beeing a part of the problem. I can only laugh seeing how this „community“ is only now callling out EA for their bad business practices 😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️
Nate + Nick = COLD
The foot accountant 💙
My boy Nate!
Great efforts
Someordinarygamer just dropped a video about boycotting ea too we need more creators with large platform to do this also to really make a impact
With the revenue and also that we know what packs cost, we could probably make an estimation on how many packs per user is bought per/big promo/day etc etc what ever metric you wanna use, it could be interesting to see, because if you get some of the community to not spend on fifa points, you can always look at the new revenue per next quarter or two quarters and get an idea of how many of the casuals are actually buying points, and then get an idea of how much power you actually have over things
Podcast 1 - 0 EA. Lets go. 😂
Don’t forget the DDA !!!! 😅 😂😂😂😂😂😂💖💖
Nick started this movement,even if it doesnt work out,and those shitters at EA wont listen,i will follow him for the years 2 come,he cares abt the community..
How has complementing another guys braveness called “glazing” we are finished 😭
Regarding the expenses, Fifa deal was worth ~150m yearly, so the decrease is pretty much there
Last year minecraft, this year the FC 24 revolution!
goats :) cograts guys :)
We need to have some sort of Avengers Endgame moment with all the Avengers cc being the content creators and Thanos being EA.
If we stop or significantly reduce fifa point consumption it will bring a number of benefits: 1. Much healthier and stable player economy. 2. Squads with a wider variety of players can be used promoting creativity thus unpredictability in an opponents line up.
3. May influence devs to increase ability to grind for icons/ good players in sbcs and/or rewards.
There are many more points that touch on like user welfare etc. In conclusion it will encourage ea to reevaluate their approach to the game perhaps change it completely.
nick if you started an entire movement good shi
Don’t Stop!
Nick.. I dont play this game anymore. BUT PLEASE, DONT GIVE UP! SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE
Big up for both of them. As a casual player i am not spending fc points anymore
Nick says he will let nate speak goes on and speaks out in the entire video 😂
When Nick is talking more than Nate, you know Nick is waffling 😂.
So, for the auto drop back part, I think I relatively understand what's happening in the game and why it happens. So, about 2 years ago in fifa 22 when they made the full switch to new gen, they advertised a "realistic back line" feature, where it's a uniform line that moves like in real life, so, what I think is the issue, is the way they coded that. They most likely coded it so that the player models are all connected to each other on defense, so if one moves into the box, they ALL do, which causes every single defender to pack the box, because they don't have a line of code that tells them that they can seperate from eachother.
Nice to see Christian Eriksen speak up about this! ❤