2024 KTM XCW's - First Ride - Cycle News

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  • čas přidán 1. 06. 2023
  • We get our hands on all the new 2024 KTM enduro bikes, the 150 XC-W, the 250 XC-W, the 300 XC-W, and the 450 XCF-W.
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Komentáře • 78

  • @therealcountrybumpkin
    @therealcountrybumpkin Před rokem +6

    Best review out there. Everything was explained well and simple!!

  • @sam-ww1wk
    @sam-ww1wk Před 11 měsíci +4

    The "inconsistent feel" and the bottoming out from the xplor fork was due to wp cheaping out and not putting a mid-valve in. Worst fork every designed. Moving to a cc fork stock was a face saving move, and very welcome one, at that. The other upgrades are very nice, but f you've never experienced a cc fork for enduro, this is the #1 reason to get this bike, hands down.

  • @Duken4evr29
    @Duken4evr29 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Finally the XC-W comes with a bright LED headlight from the factory.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yes! They say 300% brighter than the previous.

  • @kelliebrooks9094
    @kelliebrooks9094 Před rokem +1

    Thanks...tru that ditto very good talk as my Polish friend likes to say...good talk....good presentation

  • @dankruger2890
    @dankruger2890 Před rokem +2

    Personally like a spring fork for long ride consistency, safety, and adjustability. the 24' is woods ready right out of the box

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Před rokem +1

      As they say "Ready To Race" 👍

  • @DuhYaThink
    @DuhYaThink Před rokem +2

    Could you compare the 150 tbi too a 200 xcw of old?

  • @brycejames5063
    @brycejames5063 Před rokem +2

    There are 250 and 350 four stroke enduoro models for 2024 :)

  • @Superdisco199
    @Superdisco199 Před rokem +1

    What's this fella's name ? I notice Kurt from Trail Rider rated the 450 as a fav (or is this Kurt ??). Some of the other testers have rated the 150 or 250 as their fav as well. 300 seems to have a little less general appeal in this version.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Před rokem +1

      That's our Off-Road Editor, Ryan Nitzen.

  • @kriebeltyler
    @kriebeltyler Před 9 dny

    How many tanks of fuel to one tank of oil?

  • @davidgrunklee8407
    @davidgrunklee8407 Před rokem +2

    Did you notice any vibration from the 450w?

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Před rokem +2

      Not much, the whole bike is very smooth.

  • @Dat_Sun
    @Dat_Sun Před rokem +1

    I have the xc tbi 250 version. 1.5 hrs, has always had a nasty bog @ part throttle off idle and or getting on the throttle at lower to mid rpm. If you're standing and counting on the power for balance, it becomes annoying real quick. My tbi 250 feels loaded up at slower speeds. 60:1 oem oil and plug.
    My te150i was much more luggable and didn't have any bogging or flat spots.

    • @magnusthoroffroad
      @magnusthoroffroad Před rokem +2

      Usually when you have weird feeling injection bike it’s either the ccp sensor or ambient air pressure sensor.. try switching them to see if it changes and then replace them. I’ve had some work for 80+ hours and some 5 hours

    • @Superdisco199
      @Superdisco199 Před rokem +1

      have you had a remap/tune ? I rode three 300 tpi's back to back and one behaved like you said and the other 2 didn't even though they all had the same mods. The ktm engineer says one of the big things with the new model's engine is better consistency.

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun Před rokem

      @@Superdisco199 I was told it has it. The update was released the day I purchased the bike (thats how disappointing riding this bike has been, 6 months and only 1.5 hours of use). My dealer is not the best, wouldn't be suprised if they lied to me and it has the original programing.

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun Před rokem

      @@magnusthoroffroad I had this problem with my new 22 te150i, still have 3 new oem pressure sensors. Ill look into swapping the sensors.

  • @brian0299
    @brian0299 Před rokem +2

    Did KTM change the cylinder and piston brands for 2024? If so, what manufacturer did they switch to?

    • @brian0299
      @brian0299 Před rokem +2

      The videos of shattered pistons in 2023 bikes concerns me, hoping that's been remedied.

  • @MOTOSWITHDAK
    @MOTOSWITHDAK Před 11 měsíci +2

    I'm pretty sure KTM is actually doing a 350XW-F model for 2024?? Same for Husky. can't decide between that or a 250

  • @nelsonvzaks9186
    @nelsonvzaks9186 Před rokem +7

    Wait a minute, no premix so that means they have an oil pump? Let's hope they aren't going to be troublesome

    • @hurelllucieer6225
      @hurelllucieer6225 Před rokem +1

      Oil pump isn't a new thing, already been used by ktm and beta for years with good reliability.

    • @nelsonvzaks9186
      @nelsonvzaks9186 Před rokem +1

      @@hurelllucieer6225 I was just thinking of the small percentage of people who have bad luck with thier oil pumps ,it happens

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Před rokem +1

      Very similar to what the TPI bike was. Oil tank in front of the gas cap.

    • @Wahey_RS
      @Wahey_RS Před rokem +3

      Oil injection system has been around for years

    • @tireballastserviceofflorid7771
      @tireballastserviceofflorid7771 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Oil pump injection is very old technology. Been on boats for decades. And have proven to be nearly bulletproof. The only rule is the oil must be clean.

  • @kelliebrooks9094
    @kelliebrooks9094 Před rokem +1

    I living on 5 acres an i want to put a small mx track on the front 3 acres an im watch because notoriously the enduro bikes are much quieter i really have no noise ordinance but i want my neighbors to be happy an a race four stroke or yami yz 250. 2 smoke mite be too loud unless i can build a custom carbon fiber silence that cuts the noise down by a ton...i enjoy the motor sound im not ready for an electric bike yet...that would be the solution but i want the noise still.....

    • @tireballastserviceofflorid7771
      @tireballastserviceofflorid7771 Před rokem +1

      With dirt bikes you can't generally build a quit muffler. The quite the muffler the more the heat load on the engine. And the jetting will have to be changed or tuned if not within the window of fuel injection. A new stock bike will all be about the same noise level. New 2 storkes don't really smoke either. It's clear your new to riding. I suggest heading to a local mx track and get to know some people. Help you decide the best bike for you. As a starter bike depending on your size.look at the ttr 125 or the ttr 230. Maybe Dr 200. You will need some saddle time before you fly. If you just build a ramp and nail it without knowing what your doing, you will brake your neck.

  • @that427dude
    @that427dude Před rokem +3

    What is your height and weight if you don’t mind me asking? I am new to dirt bikes and was interested in the 150 but the salesman said I’m too big for it. He was steering me toward the 250. I’m just looking to enjoy the woods with my buddies and was worried about buying too much bike as I am pretty inexperienced. My only experience is riding pit bikes around back yard homemade tracks. Thanks in advance.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Před rokem +2

      Six foot one, 180 lbs with gear on. The 150 is a bit underpowered but if you are a new rider it might suit you. Size was not an issue in terms of height, weight, etc.

    • @that427dude
      @that427dude Před rokem +2

      @@cyclenews okay. I think the salesman was more concerned with its power and my weight. I am 6’ 220lbs. I was initially looking at the Honda CRF250RX which has 37hp and then I saw the 150 which also has 37hp and have just heard that 2 strokes are a better tool for slower, more technical woods type riding. Again, I have no idea. I’m new to all of this.

    • @that427dude
      @that427dude Před rokem +1

      @@cyclenews Do you think me weighing 220 is too much for the 150 even with me being a novice? Would the 250 be too powerful for me? Thanks in advance!

    • @jimmywhite766sar7
      @jimmywhite766sar7 Před rokem +2

      I’m 5’9, 185# + gear, over 50A rider. I LOVED my 2019 150xcw. Climbed hills at 3k’ elevation w/sea level jetting, & raced national enduros and local xc races with it. Only sold it b/c I couldn’t afford 2 bikes and wanted more roll on torque out of slow grass track corners, otherwise it was really good for me. You being 40# heavier might be worth getting a 250xcw, but the 150 should still pull you around okay if you wanted to upgrade later. I rode mine from low to upper mid-range in the power and it hauled me just fine.

    • @moswenym
      @moswenym Před rokem +2

      @@that427dude My personal opinion is that the 250/300 two strokes are the bikes to get whether you are inexperienced or ride at a top level. The power is easy to manage for a beginner, but there if you need it. I ride A level, 195 w gear. Current bike: new gen 2023 Husqvarna tx 300. I have had tpi’s and about every four stroke model as well. Having said all that, I love getting on my wife’s old gen 21 Husky te 150 as well. I think you would really like the 300 though. You will probably be happy with any ktm/husky you get, but even happier with a two stroke😂

  • @BradBrother
    @BradBrother Před rokem

    So they did away with the shock tower along with the air suspension. They've went back to their 2016 model!!

  • @houjous5131
    @houjous5131 Před rokem +2

    If you were doing enduro/hard enduro - which one would you bring?

  • @zhangzay8747
    @zhangzay8747 Před rokem

    WHY the factory team bike don't use the premix?

  • @KTMsoldier1988
    @KTMsoldier1988 Před rokem +2

    Can you mix the fuel in this and just unplug the oil pump?

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Před rokem +2

      Don't think so. The ECU is programmed to work with the oil tank. We asked if you could swap the ECU of an XCW with an XC and KTM advised us against that idea.

    • @thetimetraveler1427
      @thetimetraveler1427 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Why would you want to do that hahahahahahaha

    • @KTMsoldier1988
      @KTMsoldier1988 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@thetimetraveler1427
      More reliable

    • @user-fz8fy4zl1c
      @user-fz8fy4zl1c Před měsícem

      Most do the delete mods,as tanks crack and leak regularly, also oil pump set way to lean,something like 100 or 120 to 1😂

  • @jufabworkscustomtractoracc6102

    I get that the OEMS job is to sell the new models, but bashing the TPI bikes and saying they feel like a carb bike is craziness!

    • @WASemiHardEnduro
      @WASemiHardEnduro Před rokem +3

      Yeah that’s an uninformed opinion at best. This guy has no clue if he thought the TPI felt like a carb, and a TBI now doesn’t.

    • @ronpage101
      @ronpage101 Před rokem

      The tpi feels like it's all low to mid range. Very strong, but doesn't feel clean on top. Way more responsive than a carbed 300, especially down low.

    • @Wahey_RS
      @Wahey_RS Před rokem +1

      Get with the times mate, carbs are a thing of the pass.

    • @TheKitchenTechnician
      @TheKitchenTechnician Před rokem

      I’ll take a carb bike any day.

    • @Wahey_RS
      @Wahey_RS Před rokem +1

      @@TheKitchenTechnician are you a pro? Riding a carb or tpi is not going to help you get up a hill you can’t already on the tpi buddy.

  • @scottfast03
    @scottfast03 Před 10 měsíci

    The XC is a 6 speed

  • @chrismuc4023
    @chrismuc4023 Před rokem +2

    I am still not sure what makes more sense for trail riding: XC or XCW.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Před rokem +2

      XCW is the more specific trail bike. The XC is closely related to the SX and is more race oriented.

    • @chrismuc4023
      @chrismuc4023 Před rokem +1

      I know. It would be helpful to test drive the bikes. But it is not possible. 😢

  • @Mostviews111
    @Mostviews111 Před rokem +2

    Fan boys foaming at the mouth finally getting the 6500 kit stock while showa and kyb have been doing it for almost 20 years.

  • @user-zx1ir7jt4c
    @user-zx1ir7jt4c Před rokem +9

    Dear KTM: plz ditch the PURPLE! ... I know someone will say that is retro and Idc.. it's fugly!

    • @kleisoenema09
      @kleisoenema09 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Love it i was planning on do a white and purple graphic kit🤩🤩🤩

  • @user-fz8fy4zl1c
    @user-fz8fy4zl1c Před měsícem

    Ktm really outdid themselves with these lol
    Cant use the last 2 litres of fuel due to the stupid top fuel pick up,oh and get ready to completely remove the fuel tank to change a freeking sparkplug 😂

    • @Ryansanders80
      @Ryansanders80 Před 12 dny

      it takes one minute to remove the fuel tank, you can remove it full if you want.

  • @kailama1993
    @kailama1993 Před rokem

    Why are dirt bikes not durable... I have CX SE 250...

  • @gkling33
    @gkling33 Před 17 dny

    Whyyyyy?
    Stop reviewing off-road enduro bikes on a MX track ride. You dont see reviews of full MX bikes on hard enduro. Review the bike where 90% of the riders will be riding it.
    Just laziness