Some have said "Vince McMahon losing his position in WWE is the worst thing to happen to Tony Khan." They were right. When Vince was ousted, Tony's many flaws were revealed.
Good point. If you want to look thin, hang out with fat people. If you want to look like future of the wrestling business compete with its ancient past.
Tony was never good. Vince stepping down proved it. I have been saying this since AEW first began. That Tony isn't good. I got proven right by time. I gave this company a chance. Cause I wanted something different than WWE at that time. They came in at a perfect time when WWE was at it's worse. They had a tone of momentum. But when I saw who Tony was getting involved with I said it's only a matter of time until it starts failing. AEW is an indy promotion with a budget. The Young Bucks love that type of garbage wrestling. People don't want to see Indy garbage wrestling. Ratings are proving it.
Honestly even with all the scars, the wrestling world is a better place because AEW is in it. We don't see many of these changes if AEW wasn't here right now. I'm grateful for that. Like you said, most promotions don't even last that long. I was listening to a podcast about a promotion named WXO. It was Ted Dibiase's wrestling promotion that was launched at the beginning of 2000 and they were trying to be a family friendly promotion in a time where the culture was anything but. That lasted 3 episodes. So for AEW to make it this far is nothing short of a great accomplishment. Could things be better? Absolutely. But every company has peaks and valleys so the way I see it, this is a journey, and let's keep an eye on it.
I don’t think any actual pro wrestling fan wants to see AEW fail. We want them to succeed and go head to head with WWE so that way both of them including TNA and even NWA can start competing with one another forcing each other to actually make great TV and make pro wrestling the best it can be.
I am a huge wrestling fan, if everyone says they are actual pro wrestling fans, you’re not a fan of wrestling that wanted AEW to fail? AEW hasn’t been great lately, it has something to do with the lack of storylines, no leadership, and no interest, it is more heavy wrestling about dream matches, we can praise The Elite in the show, but how long it will last if it’s going to get stale and boring to take over the show, and we have seen stables that take over shoes before like NWO, The Immortals, The Authority, and The Corporation, they take all the talent spotlight, the Elite is just a rating draw because AEW is suffering a lack of interest story, too many champions, too many PPV for pay $50. And no AEW has not become WCW, unlike AEW, they were losing money, They refused to push top stars. It was always about Hulk Hogan and NWO, refusing to push top stars. And no WWE is not buying AEW if the business fails. And that will be a big mistake that is going to suffer WWE. Make an interesting story not booking matches without a story to get a lack of invested
oh they do, but it's not the e drones on twitter who want to see it fail. It's AEW's biggest supporters who are apologists for every stupid fucking thing this company does and refuses to hear or levy any criticism. The ones who think turning your biggest star and best heel into a comedy shmuck was a good idea. The ones who think Copeland jumping off the cage and landing on his feet was "cinema". The ones who say "RaTiNgS aNd TiCkEtS dOn'T mAtTeR". They claim to love this company but they are looking at massive holes dumping water onto this boat and saying, "DON'T FIX IT!!!! I LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS!". We saw these same fucking idiots doing this with TNA, and look where they are now, wrestling in gyms in front of a couple hundred people with nobody buying their PPVs. Where are all of TNA's biggest defenders now? White Knighting for TK and AEW. And the saddest part of all of it, they're in the echo chamber that Tony Khan pays attention to, the only one he listens to. These people don't buy tickets, they watch PPVs on pirate streams, they buy knock off merch, but they influence TK more than anyone because he's the king of the dipshits doing his best to appease his peasants. I hope eventually he wakes the fuck up and this company gets back to the original mission, being a second option for wrestling fans who want REAL pro wrestling, which means compelling story AND killer matches, not just one or the other.
Aew is the reason my love for professional wrestling came back the roster is amazing the matches are incredible I love the music for the wrestlers yes aew got problems and sometimes they have a great moments and that bad moments but whoever said aew is dying needs therapy aew is not going anywhere
As much I like AEW, nothing is ever going to top those first three years in that company. Those years beginning from the first Double or Nothing to really Double or Nothing 2022 were tremendous.
In my opinion it never helped them that every year they would run the same cities back but its starting to change thankfully. Im going to Dynamite next month in Des Moines Iowa
As bad as AEW is, I'm happy they exist and I hope they continue to do so. I just wish the product was better. This DON ppv was the best stuff they've put on in months. Hope the Wembley show is just as gd.
@@henriklarssen1331 I love watching AEW because of their focus on in ring (my favorite aspect of pro wrestling) amd their ppvs still almost always deliver imho. Having said all that, I do think that their best year overall was 2021 and they have yet to reach that level again since.
9:35 That is a legitimate criticism about AEW. The double edged sword of having the greatest roster ever assembled. It's that quote from The Incredibles, "when everyone is super, then nobody is." People who should feel like bigger stars just feel average if you don't have a sizzle to the steak. I feel like there should be more story-based entertainment in AEW. I mean that as make me care about these people. You could throw all these great stars on my TV as a casual viewer but if there's no reason to care, what's the point? Edit I mean better stories.
There roster is not that great you guys are delusional. It's a bunch of spot monkeys doing competitive squash matches. They don't know how to build stars. If people were honest they would say AEW is an independent wrestling company with a rich owner. I've seen this story before it was called TNA.
@@antoniusjohnson3824 I was there and I agree. Bryan Alvarez said at the time how a show like NXT is beating a show with TNA's star power. Remember, this was the gameshow version of NXT in 2010.
At one point I was really interested in MJF’s faction, Pinnacle. In my opinion, they REALLY dropped the ball on that. They could have done so much more with that group, but it never went anywhere.
pinnacle was mjf being paired off with a bunch of boring nerds, you're literally the only person on the planet who has anything positive to say about that faction
@@duckmercy11 yeah, they're nerds and douchebags, let me explain: 1) they always do those lame stereo moves 2) their theme music is a remix of the midnight express' theme 3) their promos are boring or flat out embarassing (ie. i'm going to fight like an 8 year old girl) 4) they agree to do idiotic matches like anarchy in the arena 5) cosplaying the hart foundation and the midnight express with their ring gear 6) they actually agreed to wrestle each other, for what purpose? it did nothing for either of them 7) look at the t-shirts they wear for their promos, they are so tacky and yes nerdy 8) they have no clue how to sell or pace their matches, they're just going from one move to another tra la la la la! none of their wrestling moves or their opponents wrestling moves mean anything, onto the next move 9) their finisher has a dumb name plus it's too similar to the dudley death drop 10) the name FTR, what does it mean? what does it stand for? where did they get this acronym from? why those letters? 11) there is nothing about their look that says superstar or main eventer, they look like your local mechanic or construction worker
Company with peaks and valleys. But still second only to WWE when it comes to putting on the largest attendance and viewerships in wrestling. That’s a massive success for a 5 years start up.
We always say the in-ring stuff is good, but is it really? I mean, yes, the men and women are amazing athletes in both companies. But to me, good in-ring work is telling a story, selling, and making your opponent look strong. Ring psychology is all but gone nowadays.v
I don't think there are that many that thought that. Billionaire son means it won't end until he wants to end it. But those who predicted it wouldn't be beating WWE in 5 years are all right.
@stingersplash you would be wrong on that one sir. Jim Cornette said by 2020 it would be out if business. Fans also said they would never get a TV deal as well. You might not have seen it, but even Jason has talked about this. It's not coming out of no where.
I gotta say it. The biggest factor in AEW’s biggest downfall are the Bucks and their constituents. Only in the Dave Meltzer mind of professional wrestling does it make sense to have those guys featured as heavily as they are as the top stars. They are not over with the general casual audience and in any other era of nationally televised wrestling, they would be jobbers. They are two skinny guys who aren’t charismatic and aren’t the slightest bit believable as even fictional combat sports athletes. Every single name you can think of that is underutilized in AEW can ultimately attributed to the fact that the bucks are a major priority of the creative team, and the rest are not. It’s an absolute joke that Jack Perry remained employed with that company (due to his friendship with the Bucks) when he directly caused AEW to lose their single biggest draw in CM Punk. Whatever someone like Jack Perry is getting paid in that company, it is too much. Especially in comparison in the mess he made. Especially when you consider that his spot essentially contributes nothing to AEW in terms of being a draw that attracts monetary value. The Bucks are a joke. Their style of wrestling does not translate to longevity when it comes to mainstream success. When Tony Khan and the other forces that be realize that the Young Bucks/ Dave Meltzer style of wrestling is costing them money, AEW will finally have an opportunity to potentially bounce back.
Once Shad Khan shit cans Camp Cucamonga and bans Dave Meltzer from press scrums, watch that audience go from 650k to 1 million again. No one wants to see the Vince McManlet brothers or their crew of scrawny smug little jobbers like Joke Perry. My 15 year old nephew dwarfs the Elite, and would shove them in lockers. My 10 year old nephew would smack Joke Perry once and make him cry. My infant nephew would roll his eyes at Tony Khan which would make him run to Unka Dave in fear for his life. I can legit see Cokie get bullied by a toddler.
True wrestling fans recognize that AEW’s existence over the last 5 years has been a net positive for the wrestling business. Wrestlers have more options, there’s more wrestling on major TV networks, and AEW’s existence was a major factor in WWE improving in the last few years. Not the main factor obviously but still. But that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be called out when they make mistakes.
That's the thing a lot of tribalists can't seem to accept. Not everyone who doesn't make excuses for AEW or mark out over whatever "dream matches" they put on is a hater who wants to see their downfall.
I love AEW. I don’t really know how to some the past five years so I’m going to do a year in review for each with my thoughts on how I think they should improve. 2019- great start, DoN was fun with Dustin vs Cody being still their best singles match ever in the history of the company. The first few weeks of TV were fantastic but still finding their feet. I can tell you week to week Cody and Jericho’s feud and Mox vs Omega. post Full Gear was rough with lack of direction and coasting. 2020: my favourite year for them. Locked away with nothing but creativity and stress. This still has some of my favourite AEW moments, Darby winning TNT title, two week Mox vs Allin build, Stadium Stamped, Brodie Lee’s run, Kingston and Moxley and Winter Is Coming being highlights. 2021: their biggest year. Punk returns in the greatest return of all time, Cole and Danielson debut in the best ending to a PPV ever, live fans. It was huge but there where times the company dragged things too long 2022: their first bad year, injuries all over, sense of freshness gone, Brawl Out, no MJF vs Punk feud in the autumn to help. It felt bleak and unfocused, still growing in west coast which was smart. 2023: better with a full roster, All In London. I enjoyed the summer stretch a lot but again with the autumn with AEW they just don’t seem to know what to do outside of 2021 and a bit of 2022. Collision was great under Punk but since he left it took a dive. Should have split the brands. All In was wonderful. 2024: talent wise best ever, Sting’s retirement was perfectly booked. Osprey has been great, Okada has been great but the company feels cold. I wasn’t excited at all for the PPV and I think near monthly shows makes them feel less special, I loved the big 5. It’s been a cold run with nkt that interesting stories but with great talent and wrestling to keep me as a fan tuned in. I expect them to bounce back. I think if they kept their 2021 momentum AEW would be much further ahead, running shows in over countries and doing house shows. They feel like where they should be in 2020. The company after five years of being on a major network should be beginning to run major buildings in the US like a stadium show, they should be doing a UK tour for All In. Can they bounce back? Yes of course but they need to fully invest in stories, risks and making us go every week “that felt special and important”. It’s time for AEW to get competitive again
AEW has the potential to become the great rival to WWE like WCW did back in the day, unfortunately Tony is doing to aew what Dixie was doing to TNA years ago
As bad as Dixie was, Tony is worst. OH Dixie is still very shitty as a promoter, but even Carter wouldn't have aired that CM Punk tape Khan did. When you can get Eric Bischoff, Dave Meltzer, and Jim Cornette to agree on something like Tony Khan did, that in itself is an accomplishment. Sadly for Tony what they agree on is that he's a very shitty promoter.
@@TaliaIGhul The problem with Tony is he isn't just a wrestling fan, he's a mark who has his clear favorites and let's his emotions get in the way of what's best for business. There's no way Jack Perry should've kept his job over CM Punk.
@@TaliaIGhuli agree Tony is worst he thinks he is a know it all when it comes to wrestling but he is the worst booker when it cones to tv but ppv hes better at booking
That would never happen. WCW was the NWA so it was around for years so it was established and had fans. AEW is just the new version of TNA. Impact was on Spike had better ratings than AEW ever had. And Solomonster is high, AEW doesn't have the best roster. It's a bunch of independent wrestlers mixed with NJPW and WWE cast offs. Prowrestling is about the stories in America in ring is small part. The booking is horrible
I think it’s important to have AEW around. WWE needs competition out here, they can’t be the only wrestling company. AEW, TNA, New Japan, etc. are needed.
Solomonster has obviously forgot about certain Atlanta based promotion from the past that we loved dearly and while at it's 5 year existence (around 1996-97) was also thriving and going through its best period, but in less than 3 years it was gone.. 😢
I really don’t see too much difference between TNA, Ring of honor and AEW. Yes they made it five years. That has more to do with them having more money than those other two companies and remember TNA lasted a long time too. Partly because of money but AEW just has a lot more of it. I feel like all of these companies have tried to be the next WCW and it just doesn’t work. ROH maybe not so much I think they’re the only ones that semi stayed humble but as far as the product they produce, I feel like the style is very much the same. At least ROH before Tony bought, it wasn’t delusional and desperately trying to re-create the Monday night wars with no history to back it up. ROH also never completely lusted over former WWE talent but that might also be because until Sinclair bought them they really never had that much money backing them up but Sinclair was never going to give any one wrestler a multi million dollar contract I guess that’s why added the three ROH was the most original and the one I enjoyed the most, well, not in recent years, but I would say maybe two or three years before Sinclair bought the company and maybe three years after they bought the company I felt like I really enjoyed them. That was the only modern wrestling I even cared to watch. It’s not easy to be this big national wrestling company. WWF and WCW did not do it overnight. They had different owners over the years, different names over the years, but both companies were smaller territories for decades. I can’t remember off the top of my head when WWF started, but WCW /mid Atlantic started back in the 30s originally. They were able to go because point-blank they were really the best to territories. Both companies had been in wrestling families for decades, the wrestlers that worked at those companies up to the point of going national had a very talented roster of wrestlers that had worked in multiple territories, knew how to cut a promo, knew how to get over, knew how to sell, knew how to read a crowd. And they both went around the same time. I felt like Tony should’ve taken some baby steps. I’m not saying he should’ve just started out as a territory, but think about how long WCW and WWF were around before they had multiple shows on cable. I really think Tony would’ve been better off just having one show maybe two hours on TBS or TNT and work on building an audience. Maybe let Tony get some time learning how to be a good promoter. I just saw Tony on CZcams rolling down the stage at one of his events on one of his shows. I don’t think the man can help himself, but I think it would go along way if he would get off social media, stop doing the media scrums and stop being an honor talent. Stop worrying about how Melzer is grading your matches. WWF and WCW never cared about his star rating. Vince liked getting his opinion at one time, but I think that was more of Vince trying to get dirt on other companies then it was him getting Dave’s opinion. Vince McMahon never cared about anyone’s opinion. Tony needs to stop worrying about the five star rating and start worrying about being a good promoter and for the love of God, please stop mentioning WWE. It’s gotten very old.
It’s great that we have a solid alternative to WWE in wrestling. Tony needs help on the booking end of things. He needs help with writing out week to week storylines and make them compelling.
Having AEW for the last 5 years has been so much fun and made wrestling enjoyable but it’s clear that they made several mistakes and hopefully they can improve. Also I don’t understand how or why Tony Khan believes he will get a better deal with WB Discovery given how That company has been treating the animation industry which should leave everyone concerned
I've only been watching wrestling in cliff notes fashion and what I've seen, Dynamite's gotten better BUT it feels like it took Kenny's twitch stream, where he said brawl out shouldn't have happened and acknowledging his fault in all of it to get there.
here’s my honest review. i started out a HUGE supporter. went to the second episode in boston, and had fun enjoyed the PPV’s until the young bucks brought in FTR to beat them and send them away for a year +. i have absolutely hated the product since punk left. i’ve stopped watching every week, and find the shows to be amateur hour wrestling with a billionaire budget. i do wish them success and i want them to stick around and get better, but as long as tony is the booker and the evp’s are in that role, it never will.
Having both MJF and Adam Cole return will set the table for a great story. It needs to be done right though ie; Tony needs to be hands off, and let MJF & Cole write the story themselves. The problem then, is it won't be enough to last long term, and that's where AEW used to have a decent strength. Not so much these days.
I'm glad AEW is around can't believe it's been 5-years wow the current state of the company isn't good down ratings down ticket sales attendance is down the creative is a hit and miss the women's division is awful all we want as a fanbase is for AEW to be better that's it having AEW around is good for the wrestling business.
I don't want AEW to fail, but it has the grisly stench of failure about it like TNA did about 2010. Its just a bad wrestling show booked by someone who has no idea what he's doing and frankly doesn't seem to have the time needed to do it right.
As a wrestling fan I want AEW to be a success but for that to happen things need to change they put on banger matches but storylines not so much and I got WCW vibes from that blood segment from malaki Black Tony needs booking and marketing help I really think he should hire Scott D'amore
AEW fans watch for what happens during the matches. WWE fans watch for what happens before and after the matches. Different strokes for different folks. AEW can only survive if they be themselves and not try to copy WWE and fail against a company that has 45+ years of roots planted with fans.
Stuff I will remember AEW for, good and bad: Sting's 2nd chance Punk's return to wrestling Punk's scrum fiasco Adam Cole and Bryan Danielson in the same night Samoa Joe as a champ again being the one promotion Martha Hart will do business with Hookhausen being a promotion that has had, to date, at least two Horsewomen in the house, even if one wasn't on camera... which suddenly matters a whole lot more to me with Becky unsigned. All the bad aside, if TK could get two Horsewomen while Triple H was in power, all he would have do on his next show is walk out, smirk, and say, "Mischief Managed."
Before AEW exist, the hardcore fans were getting hooked on New Japan Pro Wrestling, ever since the Omega vs Okada 6 stars match generated a lot of buzz. New Japan became cool with the Omega's Bullet Club, Okada, Naito, and Cody Rhodes. Chris Jericho even jumped ship to New Japan in 2018. New Japan was so hot from 2017 to early 2019 that they were about to do a US expansion, but then, the Elite, Cody, and Jericho chose to leave New Japan to start a new wrestling promotion, which is called, "AEW."
AEW needs to do better, it needs to make a huge improvement in its show to show presentation, storylines, promos etc. and it needs to seriously trim the roster as 160+ people on the roster to fill 6hrs of tv per week is far too much. However, in ring, I say they’re doing much better than WWE in general. They also HAVE TO stop mentioning and taking shots at WWE all of the time! I mean, even MJF’s return, what does he do in his triumphant return?! He mentions Vince McMahon. It was an own goal for me, they don’t need to be doing that.
I wanted them to succeed, i supported them buying all the ppvs before they had TV. They promised to be the alternative. To be sports based, rankings matter, few titles, 4 ppvs a year, one 2 hour show....5 years on it's a mess. I can't support Tony or the Bucks. I don't want AEW to go out of business but i do want big changes in creative if they want me back. I stopped watching in September, i don't miss it.
I prefer WWE but I don't want anything to happen to AEW or the other alternatives because WWE is very unwatchable when they're a monopoly. People walking on pins and needles, the stress from the uncertainty when there's only one place to work and that didn't not seep out of them when on the air and that's not the escapism I want when tuning in.
Every promotion goes thru this WCW WWE many times TNImpact has been on life support for yrs AEW doesnt suck like they did AEW will be fine in 2 yrs AEW will be hot again & WWE will suck again thats the wrestling buisness bottom line f the doomsdayers the rating watchers & the haters just sthu & enjoy wrestling like what you like dont be a di!@
I can remember way back just 3 years ago when regular people were asking "What is there in AEW for the casual viewer?" Those people were promtly told to shut the fuck up while AEW introduced Forbidden Door for the hardcore fans, the true fans the real fans. That attitude has persisted and now theres nothing in AEW that isnt for the hardcore fan.
The late 90's was a perfect storm for pro wrestling. Two legit behemoths working to beat each other week after week. No social media. Ratings were king. If you were able, you put two TV's side-by-side to watch Nitro and Raw. The networks allowed the envelope to be pushed. Kayfabe was alive and well. We talked pro wrestling at school, at work, made backyard wrestling videos. Wrestling was mainstream pop culture, and touched every corner of Americana. Wrestling is better now that it was even 5-10 years ago, and there's certainly more money wrapped up in it now... but that feeling that the 90's gave us will never happen again. And that's a problem for the industry, because that's the casual audience. When The Rock comes back for Wrestlemania season, those are the people tuning in. Those people aren't watching any wrestling now. They couldn't tell you who Chad Gable is. AEW will have to learn that the goal isn't to cater to the fans who will be watching no matter what... the goal is to bring in new fans. And that won't happen with their current business model.
@@Wilky2526 AEW new tagline is a perfect example of them not getting it. "Where the best wrestle" but where none of the storylines are compelling. AEW is rotten to its core its a heel territory where you are cheered the more devilish thing you manage to do. Examples MJF and Swerve. if a regular person stumbled across this show they would be confused and asking any basic logical question cant exist in the world AEW has established.
I really think people forget just how much wrestling is on TV and how you can only pick to watch so much in a week. (To the person who responds saying they watch 15 hours of wrestling a week. I am happy for you but you are the outlier.)
I think a lot of issues with AEW are overblown. Every business has ups and downs and any reasonable person would understand that the hot streak AEW had was not sustainable. Once their heavy hitters come back, AEW will bounce back. Right now, they're in a downswing and it's the cool thing to kick them while they're down, as with everything that's struggling.
Its been a company of moments.. both good and bad.. very inconsistent but its not easy trying to compete with such an established product and one that was in the toilet before aew but has rebounded to be bigger than ever in alot of ways..its made wwe so much better at the very least they have had to step up big time. I want it to succeed and it has in alot of ways but its moments like i said. When they have a great moment its usually followed up with something bad totally overshadowing it.. example cm punk.. they brought him back which is awesome but then drove him into the hands of the competitor and embarrassed themselves in the process... another example is jade and cody gave them a huge platform but they have now gone to a bigger one.. they need to be more consistent and reap the benefits of their decisions which is very tough when you have wwe always waiting in the shadows. Its a tough position but they have done well. Abit more consistency and they will be in a much better spot. Main thing thats missing is consistency for me.
The problem with AEW is its owner is a mark fan and it’s talent are also mark fans. In 2019 people wanted AEW to be WWE but booked better. Instead they got ROH/PWG with a big budget, which is what Hunter’s NXT was, Fans wanted AEW to be like WWE were from 1997 to 2006. And us fans didn’t get that.
80,000 fans, we're still running with that huh? And is Forbidden Door that dissimilar from The Wrestling Summit that it doesn't count as something WWE would never (....never) do?
@@ShaunTheCHBIf they're forgotten how are they still selling tickets in Japan and the States? They grossed $36m last year which is solid for them. Sure, they're not exactly viral with casuals but they still have their core audience.
I usually watch AEW on weekly basic on day 1 that it was a lot of excited product that has been missing since probably Double or Nothing 2022. The problem AEW today is Tony Khan are not very good making major storylines that its not involve MJF because he was the one reason I still watch AEW at the time when the promotion was at their coldest. The AEW eras I remember from the first Dynamite of October 2019 till Revolution 2020 and the first Dynamite back on tour at July until the rest of 2021 were the most fun weekly shows in my lifetime as I never grew up from watching 1980's wrestling and Monday Night Wars. The AEW of Old more likely will never come back in term of stories, but In ring product that hasn't changed since day 1 that its was Tony Khan main focus. Even I don't watch AEW weekly and only watch every now again when I need to see the likes of Bryan Danielson vs Will Ospreay match, I hope AEW still be here for years to come because its better to have two major promotion rather than just one.
I remember Jim cornette talking about the start up of AEW...then I watched the first show and that mess of a battle royal...and said to myself..which would become a regular thing...I can't wait for cornette to rant in this...But watching DON..this is year...I thought Double Or Nothing 2019 to DON 2024...What changed?...More good stuff then..less bad stuff?
The Eric Bishoffs and Jim Cornettes of the world wanna see AEW fail they will lie to your face and they will scream into the clouds into their fan base otherwise but they truly want to see this company fail and their mini mini fans that are on that bandwagon that want to see AEW fail in five years have made yes they have and they continue to do so in a manner but what they do they do well they have arguably the best roster from top to bottom of wrestlers and they’ve given people opportunities. They clearly wouldn’t have gotten in WWE my opinion I’m sick to death of people comparing the two companies and always, looking at them as competition you don’t have to be competition with somebody all the damn time just let the company do its business and stop worrying about how they fare to the WWE
Tell that to the AEW fans who said that they would put WWE out of business and tony Khan who said a while back that AEW and Nxt were at war. Keep the same energy with your AEW people. Oh and your mark Tony Khan who took shots at undertaker and John Cena etc.
1.When your order Triple H and Shane Michael's from Temu you get the young bucks 2. Tony can't ever plan next weeks show now 3. All that talk MJF did about Vince MchMahon he gave them publicity
Huh, Temu sent me Beer Money, and a free Bad Influence complete with Appletinis, both of which I was quite happy with. You must’ve got your DX at Jysk.
"Has AEW assembled the strongest roster ever?" You've gotta be incredibly young or incredibly stupid to ask that question with a straight face, and I'm hoping it's the former. At one point, Steve Austin, The Rock, John Cena, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, Batista, Randy Orton, Triple H, and Kurt Angle were all on the same roster... There's not a single AEW star bigger than any of those guys lol.
Die hard aew fans dont want to hear that aew isnt profitable when you tell them that they'll refer to a show that aew sold out and be like "well what about this show they sold all their tickets for that one" a few sell outs here and their doesnt make your company a successful one, that's like winning the battles instead of the war.
AEW with all tge bad booking by Kahn, n all tge talent that do nothing, AEW IS STILL more entertaining than WWE. I do agree WWE has improved but just not to entertaing to me. But i do watch sll wrestlers just fast forward alot. Hope AEW can get numbers up...
The one person who has got the most from aew run is Cody. When they started he was not as big a star as the other three were. Look at the landscape now. That exposure helped a lot.
AEW was born out of the creative malaise in 2017 WWE and has evolved into a bad parody of 2017 WWE. Some cool memories along the way for sure but cant help but think that the project was doomed from the start. Spending millions on in ring talent and nothing on a Gabe Sapolsky or a Hunter Johnston meant the company was always lacking a firm grip on the creative end. Too many guys with too many bad ideas and absolutely no fucking filter.
Reports Tony Khan is disappointed with current offer from Warner Brothers Discovery Good maybe they won't get cancel per se but they will be moved off of TBS/TNT to a weaker network With low ratings Low ticket sells Tony Khan would get a reality check that he needs That you shouldn't cater to Dave Meltzer/The Young Bucks and the Wrestling marks and be more like WWE At least WCW in the 90s got it
It just hasn’t improved from day 1.. I don’t want AEW to fail but Tony is hard to support .. I actually find him unbearable .. But they did make WWE step their game up & has given a lot more wrestlers a home or a chance that otherwise wouldn’t have gotten it ..
AEW would be successful if they didn't have a geek running things. If he had a foresight he would sit back and delegate people in proper roles while being in charge overall. But no, he has to play booker. Very similar to what his fellow countryman Tod Boehly did at Chelsea.
TNA has been around for 22 years, so being around 5 years is not doing much. TNA had higher ratings than AEW has ever had in the beginning. We are having revisionist history here.
TNA was never a threat to WWE despite all the big names they brought in mixed with lesser known but talented names, which is what AEW is right now. TNA never had big time money to sign big name free agents away from WWE like AEW did, most of the people they got were cut by WWE, and Spike TV helped pay for a lot of the big names like Hogan, Flair, Sting, Eric Bischoff, Angle, Booker T, Nash, Foley, Scott Steiner, Jeff Hardy, RVD, The Dudley Boyz, Christian, Mickie James,and others. TNA’s on screen product was very up and down and Vince Russo was booking the majority of it, WWE was at its weakest point around 2009-2013 but they never took advantage.
The reason it may seem like AEW isn't doing well is because NO ONE WANTS TO GIVE AEW a chance. Because fans are instutionalized of 75 yrs of WWE. most fans used to wwe don't want another company in general. AEW doesn't need to be the same as wwe, it's for the alternative because that's what wrestling needs, and alternative. I no longer watch wwe because it's not for me anymore. AEW is for me because it's prowrestling. Itll survive for yrs to come rather people want to or not
I respectfully disagree, there was a time where AEW was absolutely killing it and people were tuning because it was something new and exciting. It was a great alternative to WWE and their programming (WWE) was almost unwatchable at one point.
And then the bloodline story and the rock came back and ppl tuned back into wwe. My points proven on that alone. They bring those part timers back and storylines wwe fans love so much, outside of that nothing matters
AEW did nothing to improve WWE. Don't thank Tony. Thank Vince for inflating his own ego so much he stopped paying his hush money. Vince ousting himself saved WWE irregardless of AEW existing or not.
Aew isn't a real business. It's a TV show. They don't tour besides ppvs and TV shows. The videogame business is a money or pit. The merchandise department was run by the wife of an evp, who failed miserably for years. Until she decided to leave because people were probably upset with her performance and it made her cry or something. Ha.
Some have said "Vince McMahon losing his position in WWE is the worst thing to happen to Tony Khan." They were right. When Vince was ousted, Tony's many flaws were revealed.
WWE still had higher ratings than AEW during Vince time. People act as if before HHH took over that WWE weren't kicking AEW ass.
Good point. If you want to look thin, hang out with fat people. If you want to look like future of the wrestling business compete with its ancient past.
Tony was never good. Vince stepping down proved it. I have been saying this since AEW first began. That Tony isn't good. I got proven right by time. I gave this company a chance. Cause I wanted something different than WWE at that time. They came in at a perfect time when WWE was at it's worse. They had a tone of momentum. But when I saw who Tony was getting involved with I said it's only a matter of time until it starts failing. AEW is an indy promotion with a budget. The Young Bucks love that type of garbage wrestling. People don't want to see Indy garbage wrestling. Ratings are proving it.
@@Hush_Money2 then keep watching WWE, there problem solved.
Revealed? They were glaringly obvious from day one.
Its good to see that regardless on what peoples opinion on the actual product is, everyone seems to agree the existence of AEW is a good thing.
Honestly even with all the scars, the wrestling world is a better place because AEW is in it. We don't see many of these changes if AEW wasn't here right now. I'm grateful for that. Like you said, most promotions don't even last that long. I was listening to a podcast about a promotion named WXO. It was Ted Dibiase's wrestling promotion that was launched at the beginning of 2000 and they were trying to be a family friendly promotion in a time where the culture was anything but. That lasted 3 episodes. So for AEW to make it this far is nothing short of a great accomplishment. Could things be better? Absolutely. But every company has peaks and valleys so the way I see it, this is a journey, and let's keep an eye on it.
I don’t think any actual pro wrestling fan wants to see AEW fail.
We want them to succeed and go head to head with WWE so that way both of them including TNA and even NWA can start competing with one another forcing each other to actually make great TV and make pro wrestling the best it can be.
Even though I do not watch aew I do not want them to fail.
I am a huge wrestling fan, if everyone says they are actual pro wrestling fans, you’re not a fan of wrestling that wanted AEW to fail? AEW hasn’t been great lately, it has something to do with the lack of storylines, no leadership, and no interest, it is more heavy wrestling about dream matches, we can praise The Elite in the show, but how long it will last if it’s going to get stale and boring to take over the show, and we have seen stables that take over shoes before like NWO, The Immortals, The Authority, and The Corporation, they take all the talent spotlight, the Elite is just a rating draw because AEW is suffering a lack of interest story, too many champions, too many PPV for pay $50.
And no AEW has not become WCW, unlike AEW, they were losing money, They refused to push top stars. It was always about Hulk Hogan and NWO, refusing to push top stars. And no WWE is not buying AEW if the business fails. And that will be a big mistake that is going to suffer WWE.
Make an interesting story not booking matches without a story
to get a lack of invested
oh they do, but it's not the e drones on twitter who want to see it fail. It's AEW's biggest supporters who are apologists for every stupid fucking thing this company does and refuses to hear or levy any criticism. The ones who think turning your biggest star and best heel into a comedy shmuck was a good idea. The ones who think Copeland jumping off the cage and landing on his feet was "cinema". The ones who say "RaTiNgS aNd TiCkEtS dOn'T mAtTeR".
They claim to love this company but they are looking at massive holes dumping water onto this boat and saying, "DON'T FIX IT!!!! I LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS!". We saw these same fucking idiots doing this with TNA, and look where they are now, wrestling in gyms in front of a couple hundred people with nobody buying their PPVs. Where are all of TNA's biggest defenders now? White Knighting for TK and AEW.
And the saddest part of all of it, they're in the echo chamber that Tony Khan pays attention to, the only one he listens to. These people don't buy tickets, they watch PPVs on pirate streams, they buy knock off merch, but they influence TK more than anyone because he's the king of the dipshits doing his best to appease his peasants. I hope eventually he wakes the fuck up and this company gets back to the original mission, being a second option for wrestling fans who want REAL pro wrestling, which means compelling story AND killer matches, not just one or the other.
They push their lower talent more then the higher talent and lower titles more then then higher titles
Aew is the reason my love for professional wrestling came back the roster is amazing the matches are incredible I love the music for the wrestlers yes aew got problems and sometimes they have a great moments and that bad moments but whoever said aew is dying needs therapy aew is not going anywhere
As much I like AEW, nothing is ever going to top those first three years in that company.
Those years beginning from the first Double or Nothing to really Double or Nothing 2022 were tremendous.
MJF is a star, I'm a fan. Always enjoyed how they booked Sting, going undefeated his entire tenure there.
MIDJF is a nobody
yeah shouts out to sting putting over the younger talent such a great guy , def not a mark for himself
@@_meangreenjersey973 who asked you?
In my opinion it never helped them that every year they would run the same cities back but its starting to change thankfully. Im going to Dynamite next month in Des Moines Iowa
As bad as AEW is, I'm happy they exist and I hope they continue to do so. I just wish the product was better. This DON ppv was the best stuff they've put on in months. Hope the Wembley show is just as gd.
I dont even think AEW is realy bad right now, just not as great as it was and could be.
@@henriklarssen1331 I love watching AEW because of their focus on in ring (my favorite aspect of pro wrestling) amd their ppvs still almost always deliver imho. Having said all that, I do think that their best year overall was 2021 and they have yet to reach that level again since.
9:35 That is a legitimate criticism about AEW. The double edged sword of having the greatest roster ever assembled. It's that quote from The Incredibles, "when everyone is super, then nobody is."
People who should feel like bigger stars just feel average if you don't have a sizzle to the steak. I feel like there should be more story-based entertainment in AEW. I mean that as make me care about these people.
You could throw all these great stars on my TV as a casual viewer but if there's no reason to care, what's the point?
Edit I mean better stories.
There roster is not that great you guys are delusional. It's a bunch of spot monkeys doing competitive squash matches. They don't know how to build stars. If people were honest they would say AEW is an independent wrestling company with a rich owner. I've seen this story before it was called TNA.
TNA had a deep roster of talent from 2005-2011 but the booking wasn’t always great, the booking got worse around 2007-2011.
@@antoniusjohnson3824 I was there and I agree. Bryan Alvarez said at the time how a show like NXT is beating a show with TNA's star power. Remember, this was the gameshow version of NXT in 2010.
At one point I was really interested in MJF’s faction, Pinnacle. In my opinion, they REALLY dropped the ball on that. They could have done so much more with that group, but it never went anywhere.
The formation of that group was brilliant. They dropped subtle hints over a long period and finally connected the dots during reveal
pinnacle was mjf being paired off with a bunch of boring nerds, you're literally the only person on the planet who has anything positive to say about that faction
They put more effort into Jericho's shitty factions than they ever did with the Pinnacle. Great name, great wrestlers but what a waste of potential.
@@bieberninja1 FTR nerds? Please.
@@duckmercy11 yeah, they're nerds and douchebags, let me explain:
1) they always do those lame stereo moves
2) their theme music is a remix of the midnight express' theme
3) their promos are boring or flat out embarassing (ie. i'm going to fight like an 8 year old girl)
4) they agree to do idiotic matches like anarchy in the arena
5) cosplaying the hart foundation and the midnight express with their ring gear
6) they actually agreed to wrestle each other, for what purpose? it did nothing for either of them
7) look at the t-shirts they wear for their promos, they are so tacky and yes nerdy
8) they have no clue how to sell or pace their matches, they're just going from one move to another tra la la la la! none of their wrestling moves or their opponents wrestling moves mean anything, onto the next move
9) their finisher has a dumb name plus it's too similar to the dudley death drop
10) the name FTR, what does it mean? what does it stand for? where did they get this acronym from? why those letters?
11) there is nothing about their look that says superstar or main eventer, they look like your local mechanic or construction worker
I do wonder if Brawl Out and Brawl In wouldn't have happened had Cody Rhodes still been in AEW.
Wasn’t he already gone?
Yes he was @johnnyphesto1247
@@johnnyphesto1247 Always read a comment before replying to it brother
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that AEW’s problems started when Cody left.
@@phoenixmodellingphotography You can’t make me.
Company with peaks and valleys. But still second only to WWE when it comes to putting on the largest attendance and viewerships in wrestling. That’s a massive success for a 5 years start up.
It didn't happen organically, only because of their enormous budget from TK's daddy.
Its gave new stars like MJF, Jade Cargill
Jade Cargill is where now? Oh in WWE and MJF will end up there as well
Doctor brit baker is cool too!
@@BViper24 you dont get my point im talking about AEW positives
@@jaimonjohn2516 they dont have any one person left , mjf is stale he still the same he was 5 years ago
@@_meangreenjersey973 are you sure after all the monster pop he got from double or nothing
It's mad how Christian's one of, if not best runs come outside of WWE. in TNA and AEW. I became a fan of his cause of his TNA run.
We always say the in-ring stuff is good, but is it really? I mean, yes, the men and women are amazing athletes in both companies. But to me, good in-ring work is telling a story, selling, and making your opponent look strong. Ring psychology is all but gone nowadays.v
AEW is awful in that respect. Imagine Seth Rollins or Drew McIntyre going 20 minutes with Ivar or Akira Tozawa....it just wouldn't happen.
For all those who predicted AEW would be out of business in 5 years or less. Congratulations you were all wrong.
I don't think there are that many that thought that. Billionaire son means it won't end until he wants to end it. But those who predicted it wouldn't be beating WWE in 5 years are all right.
@stingersplash you would be wrong on that one sir. Jim Cornette said by 2020 it would be out if business. Fans also said they would never get a TV deal as well. You might not have seen it, but even Jason has talked about this. It's not coming out of no where.
I gotta say it. The biggest factor in AEW’s biggest downfall are the Bucks and their constituents. Only in the Dave Meltzer mind of professional wrestling does it make sense to have those guys featured as heavily as they are as the top stars. They are not over with the general casual audience and in any other era of nationally televised wrestling, they would be jobbers. They are two skinny guys who aren’t charismatic and aren’t the slightest bit believable as even fictional combat sports athletes.
Every single name you can think of that is underutilized in AEW can ultimately attributed to the fact that the bucks are a major priority of the creative team, and the rest are not. It’s an absolute joke that Jack Perry remained employed with that company (due to his friendship with the Bucks) when he directly caused AEW to lose their single biggest draw in CM Punk. Whatever someone like Jack Perry is getting paid in that company, it is too much. Especially in comparison in the mess he made. Especially when you consider that his spot essentially contributes nothing to AEW in terms of being a draw that attracts monetary value. The Bucks are a joke. Their style of wrestling does not translate to longevity when it comes to mainstream success. When Tony Khan and the other forces that be realize that the Young Bucks/ Dave Meltzer style of wrestling is costing them money, AEW will finally have an opportunity to potentially bounce back.
Once Shad Khan shit cans Camp Cucamonga and bans Dave Meltzer from press scrums, watch that audience go from 650k to 1 million again. No one wants to see the Vince McManlet brothers or their crew of scrawny smug little jobbers like Joke Perry.
My 15 year old nephew dwarfs the Elite, and would shove them in lockers. My 10 year old nephew would smack Joke Perry once and make him cry. My infant nephew would roll his eyes at Tony Khan which would make him run to Unka Dave in fear for his life.
I can legit see Cokie get bullied by a toddler.
Now Adam Copeland is injured because of that match Sunday. Tony Khan Doesn't know how to Say no to wrestlers now he lost another one.
True wrestling fans recognize that AEW’s existence over the last 5 years has been a net positive for the wrestling business. Wrestlers have more options, there’s more wrestling on major TV networks, and AEW’s existence was a major factor in WWE improving in the last few years. Not the main factor obviously but still. But that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be called out when they make mistakes.
That's the thing a lot of tribalists can't seem to accept. Not everyone who doesn't make excuses for AEW or mark out over whatever "dream matches" they put on is a hater who wants to see their downfall.
I love AEW. I don’t really know how to some the past five years so I’m going to do a year in review for each with my thoughts on how I think they should improve.
2019- great start, DoN was fun with Dustin vs Cody being still their best singles match ever in the history of the company. The first few weeks of TV were fantastic but still finding their feet. I can tell you week to week Cody and Jericho’s feud and Mox vs Omega. post Full Gear was rough with lack of direction and coasting.
2020: my favourite year for them. Locked away with nothing but creativity and stress. This still has some of my favourite AEW moments, Darby winning TNT title, two week Mox vs Allin build, Stadium Stamped, Brodie Lee’s run, Kingston and Moxley and Winter Is Coming being highlights.
2021: their biggest year. Punk returns in the greatest return of all time, Cole and Danielson debut in the best ending to a PPV ever, live fans. It was huge but there where times the company dragged things too long
2022: their first bad year, injuries all over, sense of freshness gone, Brawl Out, no MJF vs Punk feud in the autumn to help. It felt bleak and unfocused, still growing in west coast which was smart.
2023: better with a full roster, All In London. I enjoyed the summer stretch a lot but again with the autumn with AEW they just don’t seem to know what to do outside of 2021 and a bit of 2022. Collision was great under Punk but since he left it took a dive. Should have split the brands. All In was wonderful.
2024: talent wise best ever, Sting’s retirement was perfectly booked. Osprey has been great, Okada has been great but the company feels cold. I wasn’t excited at all for the PPV and I think near monthly shows makes them feel less special, I loved the big 5. It’s been a cold run with nkt that interesting stories but with great talent and wrestling to keep me as a fan tuned in. I expect them to bounce back.
I think if they kept their 2021 momentum AEW would be much further ahead, running shows in over countries and doing house shows. They feel like where they should be in 2020. The company after five years of being on a major network should be beginning to run major buildings in the US like a stadium show, they should be doing a UK tour for All In. Can they bounce back? Yes of course but they need to fully invest in stories, risks and making us go every week “that felt special and important”. It’s time for AEW to get competitive again
AEW has the potential to become the great rival to WWE like WCW did back in the day, unfortunately Tony is doing to aew what Dixie was doing to TNA years ago
As bad as Dixie was, Tony is worst. OH Dixie is still very shitty as a promoter, but even Carter wouldn't have aired that CM Punk tape Khan did. When you can get Eric Bischoff, Dave Meltzer, and Jim Cornette to agree on something like Tony Khan did, that in itself is an accomplishment. Sadly for Tony what they agree on is that he's a very shitty promoter.
@@TaliaIGhul The problem with Tony is he isn't just a wrestling fan, he's a mark who has his clear favorites and let's his emotions get in the way of what's best for business. There's no way Jack Perry should've kept his job over CM Punk.
@@TaliaIGhuli agree Tony is worst he thinks he is a know it all when it comes to wrestling but he is the worst booker when it cones to tv but ppv hes better at booking
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That would never happen. WCW was the NWA so it was around for years so it was established and had fans. AEW is just the new version of TNA. Impact was on Spike had better ratings than AEW ever had. And Solomonster is high, AEW doesn't have the best roster. It's a bunch of independent wrestlers mixed with NJPW and WWE cast offs. Prowrestling is about the stories in America in ring is small part. The booking is horrible
I’m a HUGE basketball fan in addition to wrestling. Leave it to Solomonster to give me the up and up on the new NBA deals. lol good looks Solo! 😎
I think it’s important to have AEW around. WWE needs competition out here, they can’t be the only wrestling company. AEW, TNA, New Japan, etc. are needed.
Solomonster has obviously forgot about certain Atlanta based promotion from the past that we loved dearly and while at it's 5 year existence (around 1996-97) was also thriving and going through its best period, but in less than 3 years it was gone.. 😢
I really don’t see too much difference between TNA, Ring of honor and AEW. Yes they made it five years. That has more to do with them having more money than those other two companies and remember TNA lasted a long time too. Partly because of money but AEW just has a lot more of it.
I feel like all of these companies have tried to be the next WCW and it just doesn’t work. ROH maybe not so much I think they’re the only ones that semi stayed humble but as far as the product they produce, I feel like the style is very much the same. At least ROH before Tony bought, it wasn’t delusional and desperately trying to re-create the Monday night wars with no history to back it up. ROH also never completely lusted over former WWE talent but that might also be because until Sinclair bought them they really never had that much money backing them up but Sinclair was never going to give any one wrestler a multi million dollar contract I guess that’s why added the three ROH was the most original and the one I enjoyed the most, well, not in recent years, but I would say maybe two or three years before Sinclair bought the company and maybe three years after they bought the company I felt like I really enjoyed them. That was the only modern wrestling I even cared to watch.
It’s not easy to be this big national wrestling company. WWF and WCW did not do it overnight. They had different owners over the years, different names over the years, but both companies were smaller territories for decades. I can’t remember off the top of my head when WWF started, but WCW /mid Atlantic started back in the 30s originally.
They were able to go because point-blank they were really the best to territories. Both companies had been in wrestling families for decades, the wrestlers that worked at those companies up to the point of going national had a very talented roster of wrestlers that had worked in multiple territories, knew how to cut a promo, knew how to get over, knew how to sell, knew how to read a crowd. And they both went around the same time.
I felt like Tony should’ve taken some baby steps. I’m not saying he should’ve just started out as a territory, but think about how long WCW and WWF were around before they had multiple shows on cable.
I really think Tony would’ve been better off just having one show maybe two hours on TBS or TNT and work on building an audience. Maybe let Tony get some time learning how to be a good promoter. I just saw Tony on CZcams rolling down the stage at one of his events on one of his shows. I don’t think the man can help himself, but I think it would go along way if he would get off social media, stop doing the media scrums and stop being an honor talent. Stop worrying about how Melzer is grading your matches. WWF and WCW never cared about his star rating. Vince liked getting his opinion at one time, but I think that was more of Vince trying to get dirt on other companies then it was him getting Dave’s opinion. Vince McMahon never cared about anyone’s opinion. Tony needs to stop worrying about the five star rating and start worrying about being a good promoter and for the love of God, please stop mentioning WWE. It’s gotten very old.
So far, AEW did well in past five years. Yes, it had some many scars. But they have overcome and learn from their mistakes. I hope they keep going on.
It’s great that we have a solid alternative to WWE in wrestling. Tony needs help on the booking end of things. He needs help with writing out week to week storylines and make them compelling.
Something Tony won't do, but needs to do. Bring in others like Scott D'More to help .
Having AEW for the last 5 years has been so much fun and made wrestling enjoyable but it’s clear that they made several mistakes and hopefully they can improve. Also I don’t understand how or why Tony Khan believes he will get a better deal with WB Discovery given how That company has been treating the animation industry which should leave everyone concerned
AEW Five years later: You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
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@@_BigTimer85 I actually did cuz I didn't want to mess up the quote lol
@@xoronin LOL
I've only been watching wrestling in cliff notes fashion and what I've seen, Dynamite's gotten better BUT it feels like it took Kenny's twitch stream, where he said brawl out shouldn't have happened and acknowledging his fault in all of it to get there.
As a wrestling fan I'm happy that AEW exists. But there are good and bad things about AEW
Hearing Solomonster mention the NBA is kind of weird but funny
Happy anniversary to aew
good video
here’s my honest review. i started out a HUGE supporter. went to the second episode in boston, and had fun enjoyed the PPV’s until the young bucks brought in FTR to beat them and send them away for a year +. i have absolutely hated the product since punk left. i’ve stopped watching every week, and find the shows to be amateur hour wrestling with a billionaire budget. i do wish them success and i want them to stick around and get better, but as long as tony is the booker and the evp’s are in that role, it never will.
please don’t come at me with stupid shit. it’s my opinion and if you disagree, you can still sleep well at night as i will.
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Having both MJF and Adam Cole return will set the table for a great story. It needs to be done right though ie; Tony needs to be hands off, and let MJF & Cole write the story themselves. The problem then, is it won't be enough to last long term, and that's where AEW used to have a decent strength. Not so much these days.
I wouldn’t like Adam write shit after all the Roddy yelling “Adam” for months
well I do miss the NBA being on NBC
I'm glad AEW is around can't believe it's been 5-years wow the current state of the company isn't good down ratings down ticket sales attendance is down the creative is a hit and miss the women's division is awful all we want as a fanbase is for AEW to be better that's it having AEW around is good for the wrestling business.
I don't want AEW to fail, but it has the grisly stench of failure about it like TNA did about 2010. Its just a bad wrestling show booked by someone who has no idea what he's doing and frankly doesn't seem to have the time needed to do it right.
AEW made every other wrestling promotion pick their game up. Hate it or love it. That’s the truth
Fact!
As a wrestling fan I want AEW to be a success but for that to happen things need to change they put on banger matches but storylines not so much and I got WCW vibes from that blood segment from malaki Black Tony needs booking and marketing help I really think he should hire Scott D'amore
AEW fans watch for what happens during the matches.
WWE fans watch for what happens before and after the matches. Different strokes for different folks. AEW can only survive if they be themselves and not try to copy WWE and fail against a company that has 45+ years of roots planted with fans.
WWE fans aren't wrestling fans then, they're sports entertainment fans. Also explain house shows and PLEs which are 95% matches?
Why would Tony run the ball back to his own end zone? We all know AEW is about safety.
AEW been fun. Loving Will, Mercedes, Darby, Elite.
Stuff I will remember AEW for, good and bad:
Sting's 2nd chance
Punk's return to wrestling
Punk's scrum fiasco
Adam Cole and Bryan Danielson in the same night
Samoa Joe as a champ again
being the one promotion Martha Hart will do business with
Hookhausen
being a promotion that has had, to date, at least two Horsewomen in the house, even if one wasn't on camera... which suddenly matters a whole lot more to me with Becky unsigned. All the bad aside, if TK could get two Horsewomen while Triple H was in power, all he would have do on his next show is walk out, smirk, and say, "Mischief Managed."
Do you know why Tony Khan doesn't have 2 World Titles. One on Dynamite and one on Collision
Before AEW exist, the hardcore fans were getting hooked on New Japan Pro Wrestling, ever since the Omega vs Okada 6 stars match generated a lot of buzz. New Japan became cool with the Omega's Bullet Club, Okada, Naito, and Cody Rhodes. Chris Jericho even jumped ship to New Japan in 2018. New Japan was so hot from 2017 to early 2019 that they were about to do a US expansion, but then, the Elite, Cody, and Jericho chose to leave New Japan to start a new wrestling promotion, which is called, "AEW."
Facts
AEW needs to do better, it needs to make a huge improvement in its show to show presentation, storylines, promos etc. and it needs to seriously trim the roster as 160+ people on the roster to fill 6hrs of tv per week is far too much.
However, in ring, I say they’re doing much better than WWE in general.
They also HAVE TO stop mentioning and taking shots at WWE all of the time!
I mean, even MJF’s return, what does he do in his triumphant return?! He mentions Vince McMahon. It was an own goal for me, they don’t need to be doing that.
the discovery merger is a repeat of the aol merger, something that happened to wcw.
I wanted them to succeed, i supported them buying all the ppvs before they had TV. They promised to be the alternative. To be sports based, rankings matter, few titles, 4 ppvs a year, one 2 hour show....5 years on it's a mess. I can't support Tony or the Bucks. I don't want AEW to go out of business but i do want big changes in creative if they want me back. I stopped watching in September, i don't miss it.
I prefer WWE but I don't want anything to happen to AEW or the other alternatives because WWE is very unwatchable when they're a monopoly. People walking on pins and needles, the stress from the uncertainty when there's only one place to work and that didn't not seep out of them when on the air and that's not the escapism I want when tuning in.
Every promotion goes thru this WCW WWE many times TNImpact has been on life support for yrs AEW doesnt suck like they did AEW will be fine in 2 yrs AEW will be hot again & WWE will suck again thats the wrestling buisness bottom line f the doomsdayers the rating watchers & the haters just sthu & enjoy wrestling like what you like dont be a di!@
It'll be ok bro
@@brood1316 Yes it will 😆
I can remember way back just 3 years ago when regular people were asking "What is there in AEW for the casual viewer?"
Those people were promtly told to shut the fuck up while AEW introduced Forbidden Door for the hardcore fans, the true fans the real fans.
That attitude has persisted and now theres nothing in AEW that isnt for the hardcore fan.
The late 90's was a perfect storm for pro wrestling. Two legit behemoths working to beat each other week after week. No social media. Ratings were king. If you were able, you put two TV's side-by-side to watch Nitro and Raw. The networks allowed the envelope to be pushed. Kayfabe was alive and well. We talked pro wrestling at school, at work, made backyard wrestling videos. Wrestling was mainstream pop culture, and touched every corner of Americana.
Wrestling is better now that it was even 5-10 years ago, and there's certainly more money wrapped up in it now... but that feeling that the 90's gave us will never happen again. And that's a problem for the industry, because that's the casual audience. When The Rock comes back for Wrestlemania season, those are the people tuning in.
Those people aren't watching any wrestling now. They couldn't tell you who Chad Gable is. AEW will have to learn that the goal isn't to cater to the fans who will be watching no matter what... the goal is to bring in new fans. And that won't happen with their current business model.
@@Wilky2526 AEW new tagline is a perfect example of them not getting it. "Where the best wrestle" but where none of the storylines are compelling.
AEW is rotten to its core its a heel territory where you are cheered the more devilish thing you manage to do. Examples MJF and Swerve. if a regular person stumbled across this show they would be confused and asking any basic logical question cant exist in the world AEW has established.
@@Wilky2526nothing brings in new fans except through old fans so I don't see your point
Travis Heckel’s neckbeard art for the Jim Cornette Experience. That’s the remaining audience.
I really think people forget just how much wrestling is on TV and how you can only pick to watch so much in a week.
(To the person who responds saying they watch 15 hours of wrestling a week. I am happy for you but you are the outlier.)
I think a lot of issues with AEW are overblown. Every business has ups and downs and any reasonable person would understand that the hot streak AEW had was not sustainable.
Once their heavy hitters come back, AEW will bounce back. Right now, they're in a downswing and it's the cool thing to kick them while they're down, as with everything that's struggling.
It will keep going down as long as Tony Khan books, he can't book for shit
Its been a company of moments.. both good and bad.. very inconsistent but its not easy trying to compete with such an established product and one that was in the toilet before aew but has rebounded to be bigger than ever in alot of ways..its made wwe so much better at the very least they have had to step up big time. I want it to succeed and it has in alot of ways but its moments like i said. When they have a great moment its usually followed up with something bad totally overshadowing it.. example cm punk.. they brought him back which is awesome but then drove him into the hands of the competitor and embarrassed themselves in the process... another example is jade and cody gave them a huge platform but they have now gone to a bigger one.. they need to be more consistent and reap the benefits of their decisions which is very tough when you have wwe always waiting in the shadows. Its a tough position but they have done well. Abit more consistency and they will be in a much better spot. Main thing thats missing is consistency for me.
The problem with AEW is its owner is a mark fan and it’s talent are also mark fans.
In 2019 people wanted AEW to be WWE but booked better.
Instead they got ROH/PWG with a big budget, which is what Hunter’s NXT was,
Fans wanted AEW to be like WWE were from 1997 to 2006.
And us fans didn’t get that.
80,000 fans, we're still running with that huh? And is Forbidden Door that dissimilar from The Wrestling Summit that it doesn't count as something WWE would never (....never) do?
Does New Japan still exist?
What's that?
It does, but nowhere near as popular as it was from 2014-2019.
NJPW are forgotten and stumbling in the dark with no direction. It’s sad to see.
@@antoniusjohnson3824 Uh, they just sold out an arena in Chicago a few weeks ago.
@@ShaunTheCHBIf they're forgotten how are they still selling tickets in Japan and the States? They grossed $36m last year which is solid for them. Sure, they're not exactly viral with casuals but they still have their core audience.
I love AEW . But they all need to learn to listen to critics at times. Seems like they double down when they are doing something wrong.
I usually watch AEW on weekly basic on day 1 that it was a lot of excited product that has been missing since probably Double or Nothing 2022.
The problem AEW today is Tony Khan are not very good making major storylines that its not involve MJF because he was the one reason I still watch AEW at the time when the promotion was at their coldest.
The AEW eras I remember from the first Dynamite of October 2019 till Revolution 2020 and the first Dynamite back on tour at July until the rest of 2021 were the most fun weekly shows in my lifetime as I never grew up from watching 1980's wrestling and Monday Night Wars.
The AEW of Old more likely will never come back in term of stories, but In ring product that hasn't changed since day 1 that its was Tony Khan main focus.
Even I don't watch AEW weekly and only watch every now again when I need to see the likes of Bryan Danielson vs Will Ospreay match, I hope AEW still be here for years to come because its better to have two major promotion rather than just one.
Punk wasn't the problem. He was the solution that the Bucks didn't think they needed
AEW needs to continue as wrestling fans we need to support all promotions.
Not all promotions you're telling me support all of them so you watch all of them and there's none you don't like stop chatting poo
I remember Jim cornette talking about the start up of AEW...then I watched the first show and that mess of a battle royal...and said to myself..which would become a regular thing...I can't wait for cornette to rant in this...But watching DON..this is year...I thought Double Or Nothing 2019 to DON 2024...What changed?...More good stuff then..less bad stuff?
The Eric Bishoffs and Jim Cornettes of the world wanna see AEW fail they will lie to your face and they will scream into the clouds into their fan base otherwise but they truly want to see this company fail and their mini mini fans that are on that bandwagon that want to see AEW fail in five years have made yes they have and they continue to do so in a manner but what they do they do well they have arguably the best roster from top to bottom of wrestlers and they’ve given people opportunities. They clearly wouldn’t have gotten in WWE my opinion I’m sick to death of people comparing the two companies and always, looking at them as competition you don’t have to be competition with somebody all the damn time just let the company do its business and stop worrying about how they fare to the WWE
Tell that to the AEW fans who said that they would put WWE out of business and tony Khan who said a while back that AEW and Nxt were at war. Keep the same energy with your AEW people. Oh and your mark Tony Khan who took shots at undertaker and John Cena etc.
Its not all good news 😂😂😂it's not that hard to see
1.When your order Triple H and Shane Michael's from Temu you get the young bucks
2. Tony can't ever plan next weeks show now
3. All that talk MJF did about Vince MchMahon he gave them publicity
Huh, Temu sent me Beer Money, and a free Bad Influence complete with Appletinis, both of which I was quite happy with.
You must’ve got your DX at Jysk.
"Has AEW assembled the strongest roster ever?"
You've gotta be incredibly young or incredibly stupid to ask that question with a straight face, and I'm hoping it's the former. At one point, Steve Austin, The Rock, John Cena, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, Batista, Randy Orton, Triple H, and Kurt Angle were all on the same roster... There's not a single AEW star bigger than any of those guys lol.
Die hard aew fans dont want to hear that aew isnt profitable when you tell them that they'll refer to a show that aew sold out and be like "well what about this show they sold all their tickets for that one" a few sell outs here and their doesnt make your company a successful one, that's like winning the battles instead of the war.
MJF is not going to move the ratings...
“AEw iS gOnnA DiE”
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AEW, loads of talent, Doofus Owner.
AEW with all tge bad booking by Kahn, n all tge talent that do nothing, AEW IS STILL more entertaining than WWE. I do agree WWE has improved but just not to entertaing to me. But i do watch sll wrestlers just fast forward alot. Hope AEW can get numbers up...
They lit a man on fire on Sunday. I think I’m burnt out of AEW for a while… see what I did there?
This isn’t the greatest run of Christian’s Career. It’s a good run, but let’s not get carried away.
I loved Christian in 2005 in wwe, wish Vince wasn’t such a dickhead
Well in my opinion, it is.
It’s been a steady decline the last few years. It’s become very hard to watch. Hopefully MJF helps out. The product is abysmal at this point.
One person won't do anything unless the booking gets better, they have a very talented roster but the booking is not helping
@@brood1316 they don’t have a booker. Thats the issue. They have a fan running the show.
@@shawnwbronxExactly.
"When you start to listen to the fans, you'll end up sitting with them."
Yeah but the people at the Nxt are the ones that got f***** over the most they were the ones putting out bangers
Wonder what the profit and loss is
Excalibur and Schiavone need to get off commentary. It makes a good match unlistenable
Best roster ever are you on crack ?
The one person who has got the most from aew run is Cody. When they started he was not as big a star as the other three were. Look at the landscape now. That exposure helped a lot.
AEW is good but can't compete with WWE the way WCW did when Hogan turned heel that did it for WCW
I just want to stop talking about WWE in every promo .
LOL, AEW
AEW was born out of the creative malaise in 2017 WWE and has evolved into a bad parody of 2017 WWE. Some cool memories along the way for sure but cant help but think that the project was doomed from the start. Spending millions on in ring talent and nothing on a Gabe Sapolsky or a Hunter Johnston meant the company was always lacking a firm grip on the creative end. Too many guys with too many bad ideas and absolutely no fucking filter.
I love Aew fans half killing themselves over the product and how good Creative is
WNBA still isn’t profitable
Reports Tony Khan is disappointed with current offer from Warner Brothers Discovery
Good maybe they won't get cancel per se but they will be moved off of TBS/TNT to a weaker network
With low ratings
Low ticket sells
Tony Khan would get a reality check that he needs
That you shouldn't cater to Dave Meltzer/The Young Bucks and the Wrestling marks and be more like WWE
At least WCW in the 90s got it
It’s funny how the tables have now turned 😂😂😂😂 wwe is now where it at
It just hasn’t improved from day 1..
I don’t want AEW to fail but Tony is hard to support .. I actually find him unbearable ..
But they did make WWE step their game up & has given a lot more wrestlers a home or a chance that otherwise wouldn’t have gotten it ..
TNA wrestling had a roster like aew as well get it right patna
AEW would be successful if they didn't have a geek running things. If he had a foresight he would sit back and delegate people in proper roles while being in charge overall. But no, he has to play booker. Very similar to what his fellow countryman Tod Boehly did at Chelsea.
And very similar to what Vince McMahon was doing.
@@antoniusjohnson3824Obviously
Swerve is not championship material.
The booking of him proves you correct
TNA has been around for 22 years, so being around 5 years is not doing much. TNA had higher ratings than AEW has ever had in the beginning. We are having revisionist history here.
TNA was never a threat to WWE despite all the big names they brought in mixed with lesser known but talented names, which is what AEW is right now. TNA never had big time money to sign big name free agents away from WWE like AEW did, most of the people they got were cut by WWE, and Spike TV helped pay for a lot of the big names like Hogan, Flair, Sting, Eric Bischoff, Angle, Booker T, Nash, Foley, Scott Steiner, Jeff Hardy, RVD, The Dudley Boyz, Christian, Mickie James,and others. TNA’s on screen product was very up and down and Vince Russo was booking the majority of it, WWE was at its weakest point around 2009-2013 but they never took advantage.
And AEW has never been nor will be a threat to WWE. Its good for a niche audience
I dont care what anybody says . Tna had a better moment than aew and created more stars than they did. Aew just have the flash and funk nothing more
The reason it may seem like AEW isn't doing well is because NO ONE WANTS TO GIVE AEW a chance. Because fans are instutionalized of 75 yrs of WWE. most fans used to wwe don't want another company in general. AEW doesn't need to be the same as wwe, it's for the alternative because that's what wrestling needs, and alternative. I no longer watch wwe because it's not for me anymore. AEW is for me because it's prowrestling. Itll survive for yrs to come rather people want to or not
I respectfully disagree, there was a time where AEW was absolutely killing it and people were tuning because it was something new and exciting. It was a great alternative to WWE and their programming (WWE) was almost unwatchable at one point.
Facts 👍
have you maybe thought that the 1.4 mil people watching at one point gave it a chance and didn't like it?
And then the bloodline story and the rock came back and ppl tuned back into wwe. My points proven on that alone. They bring those part timers back and storylines wwe fans love so much, outside of that nothing matters
@@tylersmith5333 because it wasn't what you wanted because it wasn't wwe
AEW did nothing to improve WWE. Don't thank Tony. Thank Vince for inflating his own ego so much he stopped paying his hush money.
Vince ousting himself saved WWE irregardless of AEW existing or not.
Aew isn't a real business. It's a TV show. They don't tour besides ppvs and TV shows. The videogame business is a money or pit. The merchandise department was run by the wife of an evp, who failed miserably for years. Until she decided to leave because people were probably upset with her performance and it made her cry or something.
Ha.