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Brother Daniel is right. Rulers are not Prophets or saints. Most rulers are only concerned about staying in power. Why shouldn't they be criticized?
Bcoz the Prophet told us not to. Is that not enough?
@@hl8302 what about Qatar Amir ?
@@hl8302 Even if the ruler promotes haram activity?
@@positiveali9214is the prophets commands not enough for you? May Allah guide you people…
@@hl8302 according to my knowledge, the prophet forbade Rebelling against the ruler and disobeying the ruler (in matters that don't necessitate disobedience to Allah). Can you provide evidence that clearly forbids criticizing the ruler (even if he allows Shirk Rituals or Allying With the enemies of Islam in their fight against muslims]
this is sad to see that Shamsi is stubborn and dishonest this time. He should try to understand others point. but I think there is something fishy at his part.
Very ironic considering the fact that Daniel was the one being dishonest. He literally lied about his tweet being AI then got exposed lmao
@hidetakamiyazaki1825 متى كذب حقيقتجو ؟ المدخليين في مصر كانوا ضد الحكم الإسلامي الإخواني في مصر و ساهموا في الانقلاب عليه ، و عندما صعد العلمانيون و العسكر للحكم ، خرجوا بفتاوى تحريم الخروج على الحاكم و أصبحوا مخبرين مع الأمن ، يكتبون التقارير ضد إخوانهم في المساجد و مواقع التواصل .
I listened to both. I like them both. But I don't like shamsi attitude.
He said that Daniel said something against him in some video. Thats why he is acting this way....shameful behaviour to be honest.
He is a jami, there core tenant is to be tools of the ruler
Shamsi seems to avoid the core of the topic, and seems to be making noises trying to avoid any logical discussion.
I have huge respect for Shamsi's great debates with non Muslims. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to be very authentic in this discussion, really sad to see!
you are really wrong here akhi…why didn’t daniel wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah
Did you even watch the video? It was Daniel who digressed from the original topic when he got refuted. Plus he was the one who kept interrupting and shouting
@@fbgpreybe honest daniel is very soft spoken in this.
@@muhammadal-amin4531
Most people are calmer then Shamsi as most people are calmer then north Africans in general.
Be honest Daniel had no proofs and was dieing to change topics bcoz he knew it
Liars like you misguide others before they even watch the video. You will be held accountable for your lies inshallah. Anyone who actually watched the video knows who digresses and who didn’t, Daniel literally was pulled away by his handlers 😂
Shaykh Al-Albani (rahimullah): "it's not allowed to give bay'ah to rulers that don't implement shari'ah" - shamsi: "I pledge allegiance to clean shaven president who uses french laws"
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It hurts them (madaakhil) when you give a fatwa from a unanimously trusted Shaykh that refutes their current action… study my brothers, these people can waste all day on quarrelling
Do you have a source to verify context?
If they implement the sharia and make mistakes who said they aren't still followed? How about Marwan ebn hakam in Sahih M. Kitab iman.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Why does Shamsi consider Saddam Hussain to be a kaffir but the Algerian regime Muslim?
Lmao
I like Daniel, very intelligent with good manners
Good manners with the people , bad manners with Allah
Daniel is too humble wallahi, may Allah swt bless him. The speaker’s corner can drive you crazy
MashaAllah, to Humble to even reject Quran and Sunnah that Shamsi brings him. But rather uses Emotions and logic
He is not humble - He is ignorant. Dare him to talk about this issue only from Quran, sunnah and salaf.
@@conservativemuslim Brother, He used Emotions in the entire video, While Shamsi brings Quran and Sunnah as his proof. Despite that, the Laymen praise Daniel who from all of that video, brought no proofs from Quran and Sunnah. Is there a comparision?
@@HistoryBasis No comparison. I am not a fan of Shamsi but a person whose authority is Quran and sunnah can never accept the ideology of Daniel who should stay away from talking about islam and stick debating about isms as he usually do. Daniel lacks basic foundational knowledge of islam.
Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman reported: I asked, “O Messenger of Allah, we were living in an evil time and Allah brought us good in which we live now. Will there be evil after this good?” The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Yes.” I said, “And any good after this evil?” The Prophet said, “Yes.” I said, “And any evil after this good?” The Prophet said, “Yes.” I said, “How will it be?” The Prophet said, “Leaders after me will come who do not follow my guidance and my Sunnah. Some of their men will have the hearts of devils in a human body.” I said, “O Messenger of Allah, what should I do if I live to see that time?” The Prophet said, “You should listen and obey the ruler, even if he strikes your back and takes your wealth, even still listen and obey.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1847
accusing muslims without proof is humble ? what's going on with the ummah 🤦🏻
Shamsi is completely shaken. Daniel is calm n cool. Shamsi when cornered starts a personal attack
Shamsi wants to reach the truth, Daniel wants to disengage and not elaborate on his views
When was it that calmness and composure became the criteria for ones argument to be true. If we apply this criteria, then Piers Morgan was the one upon the truth in both of his interviews with the brothers Mohamed hijab and Bassem youssuf.
exactly that is why madkhalis are bootlickers
i used to be like them
Daniel is the child here, he can't even answer a simple question, which scholar made a group or sect called madkhali? what are their principles and creed, Shamsi asked a very simple question and Daniel digressed and keep asking Shamsi about can we criticize the ruler, and scholars already answered these questions many times. You are clearly a Daniel Pikachu fanboy.
I saw the same comment in two different threads. Bootlickers have bots now. All of that oil money is being put to good use.
Shamsi: I don't do politics
Goes on criticizing the Palestinians and the Hamas authority.
Hamas is not the leader so it doesnt fall under critisizing the rulers. The major scholars critisized Hamas harshly and called them unislamic. Dont listen to this Khariji Daniel who calls to bloodshedding
He ddin't say that you're just as much of a liar as this Daniel guy, he said occupy all the time, even ppl wanted him to talk more politically
yes he did i've see it and heard it people like him main divide ummah@@RIZ2NE1
He didn't criticise Palestinians he condemned Hamas. Hamas do not represent every Palestinian. Hamas are an organisation backed by the Rafidah Shia militia who were and still are killing sunnis in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Yemen. Go research Qasem Soleimani of Iran and his atrocities againts the Muslims. Secondly Hamas indiscriminately throw rockets into Israel killing 1 innocent person or damaging a building knowing that the Zionists may Allah curse them forever will retaliate by killing thousands.
He is the dog of Arab mornarchs. These are the people who will go against the Mahdi. The Mahdi will come to challenge these Arab king munafiqs.
Shamsi is trying to debate hardly but Daniel is trying to have a simple conversation 😂
daniel is soo humble ma sha allah may allah unites us all
Daniel isn't worried about speaking the truth, Shamsi is
That's bcoz the details expose Daniel and he knows it.
@@hl8302
Yeah...
Cry baby your boy shamsi is trembling like joke... He can't even stand properly...
Talking to people instead of with Daniel.
hahahahaha
who win in debate daniel ? hahahahaha
he can't prove his claims he is a liar @@ExposingHindutva101
shamsi stuck on Madkhali to avoid speaking about the actual topics
The topic has been address countless times, shamsi is asking him to bring proof for her slander
why didn’t he (Daniel) wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah
@@Prayformetobeagoodmuslimcovert pdf lol bootlicker 16:18
@@BlueSkyblueseagreenland You could find a million proofs that he is a madkhali imagine backing Assad and mbs and licking their boots. And blaming all bad things on the people. What more proof do you want.
@@Prayformetobeagoodmuslimmake this a PDF 😂
Why Shamasi can't answer a simple question about critizing the rulers ?
He's always so afraid to talk about them.
He has answered that countless times on his channel. He didn't wanted the topic to be changed. If you guys are too dumb to understand that then please stay away from this video.
Probably because Daniel brought up that question after they were already having a discussion about something else.
We could have got to that if Daniel would stop lieing that he has made a sect by himself.
@@talibin Understandable but that's the main issue between them twos.
If critizing the rulers is fine or not which.
@@iledawn9282The Hadith of the Prophet is clear, we are not allowed to criticise the rulers publicly. Will you submit to your Prophet or will you submit to your desires?
Shamsi is behaving like my 10 years son when i ask him about his homeworks
😂
Shamsi seemed rattled here..Brother Daniel made him look silly. Was sad to see Shamsi look so bad in this argument. May Allah guide him.
Daniel is the child here, he can't even answer a simple question, which scholar made a group or sect called madkhali? what are their principles and creed, Shamsi asked a very simple question and Daniel digressed and keep asking Shamsi about can we criticize the ruler, and scholars already answered these questions many times. You are clearly a Daniel Pikachu fanboy.
Brother Daniel also made clear what he meant by the term madkhali . And Brother Danial was not a student of Islamic Knowledge as Brother shamsi so it is obvious he haven't memorized certain Scholars saying as Brother Shamsi and that doesn't disprove Brother Danials point @@muhammad608
@@muhammad608every shamsi fanboy using the word “digressed” now lol get off youtube and go read a book
@@muhammad608Can we criticize the ruler?
Daniel is in mode denial!
Shamsi starts talking to the crowd every time he is cornered 😂
Actually it was when it was clear Daniel would continue to try changing the topic and not answer
Like a dog 😂
@hl8302 how comes shamsi didn't answer the question when asked about rulers he seemed scared
@@jungle3139
You need to find the discussion they had after Maghrib. Daniel got absolutely finished on this topic and ran off. Not just by Shamsi it Sheikh Mohammed aswell.
@@hl8302 send link
and don't "digress"
😂
Shamsi was so rude, wow, brother be humble. Brother Daniel wins again, so calm and frank
if being on the truth and winning arguments was about how calm you are or not, Joe Biden must be upon the truth.
Such a low level of standards it's embarrassing. Quran and Sunnah doesn't matter, its staying calm.
Didn’t know arguments were won on staying calm
yeah dude joe biden must be correct too then. bcoz quran and sunnah doesn't matter
@@Anas-be2vqnowhere does this commenter say that simply won because he is calm and composed try to comprehend the things people say before opening your mouth
I stand with daniel, Shamsi is a showman, he debates for the sake of humiliating others and not letting them speak properly, not to find the truth.
What truth are you going to find from a slanderer like Daniel?
@@BlueSkyblueseagreenlandspeaking truth is not slander
If it’s to humiliate falsehood for the sake of Allah alhamdulilah especially it’s callers to innovation or kufr, shamsi btw believes debating innovators even kuffar is haram unless someone is sincere than you can talk to that person, or if someone who is an innovator or a kaffir who is going around lying and putting doubts like brother Daniel does than it’s permissible only out of necessity to refute the lies…he’s mentioned this time and time he doesn’t debate anyone unless there sincere…so fear Allah
The same guy that doesnt give u the definition of group accord to thier book but according to his intellect and the same guy that says shikh x said they are goup of biddah we live now after khlaiphat and there s jammat not one jamaa and the same guy that lied about his tweets
Shamsi protecting his Saudi bosses 😂😂
Shamsi belives Halloween celebrated in Saudi Arabia is an Islamic holiday
@@MCXM111can you link me the post/video where he said that ?
﴿سَتُكْتَبُ شَهَادَتُهُمْ وَيُسْأَلُونَ﴾
Yahya ibn Rashid said:
We were sitting waiting for Abdullah ibn Umar who came out to us and sat. He then said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as saying: If anyone's intercession intervenes as an obstacle to one of the punishments prescribed by Allah, he has opposed Allah; if anyone disputes knowingly about something which is false, he remains in the displeasure of Allah till he desists, and if anyone makes an(( untruthful accusation)) against a Muslim, he will be made by Allah to dwell in the corrupt fluid flowing from the inhabitants of Hell till he retracts his statement.
@MCXM111
Shamsi ask questions Daniel answers them, and when Daniel ask him one he replies "i will tell the answer later".
Liar, go watch the video again…why didn’t he (Daniel) wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah
Daniel quite literally didn’t answer any questions
Is English your first language?
@@fbgprey Daniel gave example of scholars, defined madkhali, explained what he tweeted, gave of whom those scholar called out.
Keep saying Daniel didn't answer anything, it's just what to expect from middle.east government fan.
@@hl8302 no
Daniel staying on topic repeating “ can we criticise the rulers?”
Shamsi “don’t digress”
LOL the whole contention is centred on this.
The question shamsi asked Daniel about the usool of the "Madaakhila". He didn't answer.
Daniel can’t even quote a single Ayah and Hadith to prove his point and he goes to yes or no tactics used by disbelievers.
He clearly a debater but ignorant in islam.
@@Mozee854what usool!
Madkhalis that make the primary thing in Islam is to obey the rulers and everything else comes after. Most Arabs in Middle East knows this but no one will talk about it bcz the result is either jail&torture or getting killed
@@Shamil-ti7vh exactly. He's a charlatan.
I lost my respect for Shamsi, firstly he really defended the Saudi government but not support Palestinian and argued that he was not interested in politics, secondly here Shamsi was very aggressive he ignored Daniel's question just for the conclusion he made, this is not a conversation in my opinion, it's not even a debate, he looks like a showman.
Shamsi was at a local masjid and did make dua for the Palestinian people and said the leader's are a reflection of the people.
That's probably highest criticism I have heard from him against the rulers.
😅😅So U think UR respect is concerned for shamsi who stand with Quran and sunnah
@@Saeed1vf , 1)The obedience of the Muslim leader only applies to matters that are permissible in Islam. If they demand actions that are sinful, one is excused from their obedience
It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar that the Prophet (ﷺ) said:
"It is obligatory upon a Muslim that he should listen (to the ruler appointed over him) and obey him whether he likes it or not, except that he is ordered to do a sinful thing. If he is ordered to do a sinful act, a Muslim should neither listen to him nor should he obey his orders.
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا لَيْثٌ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنْ نَافِعٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنَّهُ قَالَ " عَلَى الْمَرْءِ الْمُسْلِمِ السَّمْعُ وَالطَّاعَةُ فِيمَا أَحَبَّ وَكَرِهَ إِلاَّ أَنْ يُؤْمَرَ بِمَعْصِيَةٍ فَإِنْ أُمِرَ بِمَعْصِيَةٍ فَلاَ سَمْعَ وَلاَ طَاعَةَ " ."
- Sahih Muslim 1839a
2) Terrorist Israel and Quraysh are not the same. Israel is the illegal occupier but the Quraish were not.If you say the victim should have a peach of a deal with the rapist, then you're wrong. Why is Israel not like the Quraish?
then Imagine: someone breaks into your's room, and you attempts to remove the illegal intruders to protect your family and yourself. However, enemies of you argue that the illegal intruders have a right to self-defense from you.
-Means: Rapist has right to protect him from victims.If you say the victim should have a peach of a deal with the rapist, then you're wrong
Because of the peace Treaty, normalization,Israel took this opportunity and Israel has already swallowed almost the whole of Palestine . Today, they have acquired the ability to cut off supplies at will. After that, the peace treaty with them?
That really tells you whose payroll he’s on! Hasbuna Allah
So, tell me Shamsi toxic fans, how good is Shamsi that he is never wrong and always right in criticizing many people, even criticizing a Sheikh, creating this circus by spreading it on CZcams so that the ummah is divided, is that what you want?
Shamsi flapping around... dont digrresss... don't digressss
Because he is digressing. When he doesn't want to be exposed you idiots keep defending him. All his points got cooked and he had no adaab to let brother shamsi speak
may allah unite us upon the quran and the sunnah
We are guided to follow Quran and Ahlul Bayt.
@@rcmysm9123 and we’re guided to follow quran and ahlu albait and sahaba and worshiping allah alone
@@underberg3007
Our prophet Muhammad pbuh said left us TWO weighty things, not three. So don't be so trinitarian.
And Shia of Ali ibn Abu Talib only worship Allah swt.
@@rcmysm9123 and the prophet peace be upon said follow the two after me abu bakr and omar and shia doesn’t worship allah alone you call upon ali and hussain and you say prophet muhmmed’s wife do adultery
@@underberg3007
No he didn't, but you follow forged hadith paid for by Muawiyah (la).
Shamsi exposed by brother Daneil. Alhamdulillah
The only one who is exposed is you who hates Muhammad PBUH and disobeys his clear orders about not speaking against the Muslim rulers in public. If you hate Rasul Allah, why are you Muslim?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 danlel was running away like a chicken what are you on about. first claiming its a group in islam and then saying its his OWN deffinition😂😂😂
@@abdulrahmanalmashgari8902no one exposed no one here
the whole point was whether we can criticize rulers and shamsi kept evading the question
@@Harris19941 Why do you need to ask that question in the park? Go ask scholars. But daniel admitted he is nobody to make sects. He lost the debate right then and there.
@@ilyasancharad4285 Daniel got humiliated and changed his stance in 2 seconds haha
Salaam Sincere brother Daniel!!!
shamsi got stuck on one topic on purpose 😂
Only a fool moves on from topic to topic without even finishing the 1st one.
@@hl8302shamsis point is irrelevant based on his opinion
@@NuranSallahi
It's very relevant. Daniel is creating a group with no foundation.
@@hl8302exactly brother
Daniel is the child here, he can't even answer a simple question, which scholar made a group or sect called madkhali? what are their principles and creed, Shamsi asked a very simple question and Daniel digressed and keep asking Shamsi about can we criticize the ruler?, and scholars already answered these questions many times. You are clearly a Daniel Pikachu fanboy.
Mashallah Brother Daniel did well.
He didnt actually...
Shamsi the true waffler
He makes waffles? 😁
@@PakiFighterhad he made waffles that would have been better maybe than him speaking nonsense
He really is & he does it fast with old-school gimmicks_(crowd-control).
Shamsi is more concerned with defending his group/sect and having the last word in.
For Bringing evidences from Quran and Sunnah
Shamsi is not a Scholar to say kafir
"you're doing the work for free thats the difference " Daniel to Shamsi
VIOLATIONNN 100
Shamsi holds on to a point that doesn't even matter that much, he waits for a mistake and starts eating you up, and never leaves it, then interrupts you and even finish the discussion whenever he wants claiming he won, his goal from a debate is to humiliate the other person, not to find the truth, I honestly used to like him but he is becoming very annoying and arrogant.
It gets obvious and cringe when he says “watch watch watch”
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So he’s wrong for wanting to stick to the point? Isn’t that how you get to the truth instead of constantly changing the subject? Don’t be a Danieli
thats what i love about him. no strawman with shamsi or.jumpint arround. if you claim something and you are wrong just admit it..dont try to jump to an other argument and dont aknowlegde you lost.
so should he jump from point to point without fully talking about it and coming to a final agreement or atleast clarifying the truth about it?
"Obey Allah and His Messenger and do not dispute with one another, or you would be discouraged and weakened. Persevere! Surely Allah is with those who persevere." SURAH AL-ANFAL 46
Does Shamsi only criticise people if a scholar says so? does he only do everything a scholar says LOL joker.
If we had a pound for every time Shamsi made tabdee or takfir we would be able to save Gaza.
Your mixing between issues, shamsi clearly answered that doubt Daniel tried to bring but because u don’t speak Arabic u didn’t understand him what he said…he said if the person believes in something that is known by the religion from every muslim like worshipping a cow(every muslim will say that person is a kaffir you don’t need a scholar to make that takfeer) but the things you need a scholar to make tabdee3 or takfeer on is things that aren’t known by necessity to EVERY muslim and there can even be confusion regarding it weather if it’s bidaa or kufr(more with bidaa t be honest)…so learn Arabic before trynna expose shamsi May Allah bless u.
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459
If you learnt how to count, you wouldn't make such a comment
@@Prayformetobeagoodmuslim SO can you critique the rulers LOL mans answering everything but that. where were the Salifis 80 years ago? exactly didn't exist haha.
@@RR-qq3jo according to Quran and sunnah books of the Islamic tradition books of the salaf of CREED not books of history or books of Fiqh…than no not MUSLIM rulers, and scholars should advise the rulers and Take them by the hand that’s the Islamic way abd this was advised to us by the greatest man to ever live and he was advised by the creator of the heavens and the earth so alhamdulilah call us bootkickets all you want your insulting Allah and his messenger not us(so called madkhalis)
tbh i'm glad Daniel made it clear that we can criticize rulers
yes we can criticize them
Yes, we start with Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman.
what?
We cannot. He got cooked. All his fanboys kept saying he won or has points. Shamsi cooked him on all points. He brought up points with references and Daniel kept quiet. He kept interrupting and shouting. No adaab at all
@@MarkazAlHaqq Sorry I liked Shamsi in the past but he gets taken to the cleaners against Daniel, Shamsi isn't on that level unfortunately. One question in 20 mins and Shamsi never ever answered it. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. He can't.
A sect is a group, but a group is not necessarily a sect
If you call a group of Muslims a label other than "Muslim", it's a sect. That's why the label "Ahl as-Sunnah" exists in the first place, akhi...
@@DarkPacmanCa group of Muslims around the corner are not a sect.
They are a group.
This group of Muslims around the corner are.... Drug dealers. Let's call them corner-drugstore Muslims.
This doesn't make them a sect in Islam. It is a group of people who claim they are Muslim that are described by traits. Chill.
It's really. When we say sect, we talk about differences in beliefs. When we say group, we talk about those who do a certain act.
Groups within a sect, for us it's ahle sunnah Wal jammat, focus on certain things. Sole people do it. Some don't, some agree, some disagree, bit it doesn't take you outside the fold of Islam.
@@DarkPacmanC group of muslim doing some economic activity, so we call them sect?? This logic make me cry
Irrelevant.
There is only one Firqatun Naaji'ah (Saved SECT) and Taa'ifatun Mansoorah (Victorious GROUP). Both names belong to the one and same people whom Allah's Messenger (sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam) described in detail.
We don't need modern English semantics, Barak Allahu feek, when wahee from Allah has cleared the matter (paraphrasing Surah Najm 3-4)
Shamsi : Don't digress from the topic
Daniel : Can we criticise Rulers (a million times) ?
Shamsi : Bla bla bla digresses from the topic
الله يهدي شمسي للحق، ما أضعف حجته.
*Daniel
بل كانت حجته هي الدامغة بالكتاب و السنة في حين أن دانيال كان مفلسا من الأدلة الشرعية
@@Saeed1vf إن كانت الحجة بالصوت العالي والانفعال المفرط فحتما قد غلب بحجته.
ماقول رسول صلى الله عليه و سلم في نصح ولاة الامر !؟؟ ماهو موقع القران مع ولاة الامر !؟؟ ماذا قال شافعي رحمه الله عن النصح
الله يهدينا جميعا و يجعلنا متوحدين على كلمة واحدة موحدين
اما دنيال فهو شخص يعطيك تعرف جماعة من راسه كيف هذا
اصلا مدخلي ليست حتى جماعة هذا كلمة مصطنعة 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Daniel is to intelligence for this discussion tbh.
Daniel is a slandering unintelligent pauper
Indeed..
An intelligent person would have proofs....
why didn’t he wanna bring his usool if he’s so Islamically intellectually above shamsi? With all due respect to Daniel but does he even speak Arabic??? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah
So intelligent that he doesn't need to quote Qur'an and Sunnah just his emotions and opinion are enough
Shamsi has learned a new word and he's sticking to it? I digress... LOL
Looooool I caught the over use
Danial is the champ mashallah
Daniel is the child here, he can't even answer a simple question, which scholar made a group or sect called madkhali? what are their principles and creed, Shamsi asked a very simple question and Daniel digressed and keep asking Shamsi about can we criticize the ruler, and scholars already answered these questions many times. You are clearly a Daniel Pikachu fanboy.
@Gatsudoshamesy is taghut
MashaAllah a Jahil who never learned from Scholars, used Emotions and Logic against Shamsi who used evidence from Quran and Sunnah.
@@HistoryBasis shamsi is taghut
@@idontcare7922 Evidences from Quran and Sunnah?
Brother do not be emotional like Daniel, you will see what it leads you to
When someone uses many words but is saying nothing, when someone won't answer simple questions, it is a sign of not knowing what the person is talking about.
Shamsi=Suhaib Webb, both exposed. Thanks bro Daniel. Palestine 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 in our hearts.
Lmaoooo CANT be serious putting shamsi in the same sentence as an extreme ashari sufi, And shamsi didn’t get humiliated like Webb did rather clearly the opposite he simply destroyed brother Daniel here you obviously didn’t understand a word being discussed from shamsis mouth if U think he made no sense.
@@PrayformetobeagoodmuslimI'm so curious to why shamsi only has this big mouth for mbs but not the other leaders who are doing much less harm to their people..isn't that hypocrisy 🤔
@@Asiyah2000 what’re u even on about? I’m not defending any leader but it’s well known saudis and ppl in the gulf in general love there leaders, unlike other muslim lands(they all hate their leaders)…u seriously don’t know what you’re talking bout sister. BarackAllahufeek
Shamsi made to look bad here. 😂
Yes bcoz someone diverting every 2 min coz they got no proof is a good look right?
Daniel was desperate from the start to divert topics coz he knew.
Shamsi made himself look bad, unruly thug vs a professor.
@@Ahmedkhan-hc5gu
Professor in philosophy and politics. No Quran and no Sunnah. Just opinions and emotions.
Watch the discussion after Maghrib. I'm sure your opinion won't change because it's not the eyes, but the heart that is blind.
@@hl8302why was he not answering daniel
Tbh shamshi was dodging the questions like Boris the bullet dodger
Shamsi is a waste of time , he can’t debate properly. He get’s so excited that it’s difficult to follow what he’s saying.
💚👍
Exactly! He has good intentions but not the right qualities
Shamsi said Brother Daniel said something about him in some video so his nefs was speaking here. Thats why he was emotional.
Shamsi this is not the time, My Allah guide you and guide us
Then when is the time? Yes continue to make dua for Palestine and donate if you are able but dawah and speaking haqq does not take a backseat brother
Ameen
Shamsi is not an alim but acts like one then tells others not to lol
Zamzi refused to say whether the rulers can be criticise. He refused to answer, he is the one saying the rulers can’t be criticised
Shamsi's stance is already known but the reason he didnt answer because DH was tryna digress
@@MAli99923 digress 2 what? Daniel already stated he referred to those saying leaders shouldn’t be criticised are the makhali butlickerd
Show us where. All you Danny fanboys keep this trend of him being a scholar. He got shutdown on every point. He could t provide references, shamsi backfired his points and he got shocked. You speak just got air and no points with knowledge
@@MarkazAlHaqqwhy can't you criticise Saudi?
@@amjidali588 What will a nobody like you or me criticising them will achieve? Explain that to me and show me its benefits. I will join you in criticising them.
“Show me proof” lol Shamsi already putting burden on the other to carry the weight of the conversation. Its a safety tactic for him.
Iam Iranian sunni muslim and I proud to my brother Daniel who we are from same country, shamsi is not great inviter like Daniel
yeah that is why thousands people through the dawah of shamsi. when was the last time anyone accepted Islam through daniel ?
@@mohdfaisalkhan453 shamsi speak in public this is why many people converted to islam but Daniel speak in internet and debeat with great Atheist and Christian scholors and many people comment on his video and they saying by watching his debeat they converting to islam
@@mohdfaisalkhan453 Guidance comes from Allah not shamsi, his dawah is good in many things. But in this point he seem to be very wrong. May Allah guide us all. Daniel does not to convert anyone to prove Shamsi wrong.....
@@AminAmin-oz4svwell said
@@mohdfaisalkhan453 isis made people come to islam, thicko
Whilst men, women and children in Palestine are being killed and murdered, speakers corner is still active and people are having pointless debates. As Muslims, regardless of which school of thought we follow, we have to stick together in these horrific times for Palestinians.
Madkhalis are not a school of thought ,they are nothing but rulers' bootlickers.
Exactly!
That is like accepting normalization..we have diference,.lets accept our difference whether right or wrong and shake hands and walk our separate ways.
Shamsi is a showman wallahi may allah guide him and us all
Back your accusation with daleel before opening your mouth. Your adaab is unislamic. Don't show your ignorance
@moneyxl00 He already lost half of his credibility when he rejected the fact that Hamas is the reason Isreal is attacking Gaza which is a very Zionist argument and could never imagine a muslim from my country as well to say
And Daniel is a absolute jaahil. Can't even speak Arabic and he walks around like he has some authority
Dont think so. He gave good points. May Allah guide Brother Daniel and all of uss.
Shamsi was digressing from the beginning
Shamsi is not answering the question and wants agreement from the crowd which he is not getting lmao
shamsi is used to dealing with christians,
its sad seeing him trying to humilate his brother out like that. (it back fired tbh)
for anyone that was on "shamsi side" or whatever,
he lost, he digressed alot, even when he was getting a real answer, he just brushed it off like its out of context.
my allah guide us all
Its start with hijab n ali dawah n now its increasing day by day. Its sad. Sorry to see this
Muslims dealing like this with Muslims is the trait of being a madkhali
@@haithem8906Name one thing he digressed
Must be a typo. You mean Daniel diverted from everything right?
People stop understanding English when Quran and Sunnah is presented. Scary
Alhamdulillah for Br.Daniel
So many madkhali saudi bots commenting here defending shamsi 😂
Lol the opposite if you ask me daniels boys are waaay more in number and he’s way more famous so it makes sense that daniels bots are more in the comment sections, I only seen a few comments no more than 10 ppl in support of shamsi and there all the same ppl,(me being one of them) daniels got all the top comments
@@Prayformetobeagoodmuslim i dont think daniel has invested billions of riyals in hiring bots that promote his work unlike some gulf countries governments do. So the only reason you see so many comments praising daniel is probably because he was calm & collected throughout the discourse and performed well
@@mzorkea lol daniels bots are in every video that refuted him even with Islamic proofs you see them everywhere I knew they were gonna be massive in this comment section also. Shamsi is no where near as famous sadly ppl don’t follow ppl of true knowledge of the religion they follow famous ppl who think they know the religion which is one of the many reasons the ummah is in the state it is today.
@@abrek6970 salafis are jews? Prove to me salafis are Jews. That’s a big accusation and takfeer so thanks for clarifying ur a massive takfeeri
I always assumed good of Shamsi, even after all the problems other Muslims CZcamsrs said things about him. But now I am convinced. Alhamdulilah.
Shansi is the worst...a deviant...he talk and talk to cover his stupidity. He don't want to answer any questions because he is an ahlul bidah of the wahabi sect always do this
notice how Shamsi keeps dodging the questions. shams always criticize muslims and the nerve he has to say he doesn't criticize
I didn’t see any questions he dodged. If anything Daniel was fluttered and refuted in this
shamsi wasn’t dodging anything he was getting there, the one who was dodging THE bigger ISSUE at hand was brother daniel, why didn’t he wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah
WHY ARE WE ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER, FOCUS ON GAZA AND PALASTINE
Why are you in a comment section of a video that's not about Gaza and Palestine?
Shamsi doesn't like that. He likes infighting.
You should ask that question to shamsi not to daniel...
Masha Allah Daniel brother ❤
Shamsi is waffling dude.
He’s literally sticking to the point. You’re just a Danieli
@@noneya3969 I call them HaqiqatCHEW and their idol HaqiqatJEW.
@@noneya3969lol
@@noneya3969defending Saudi Arabia like he’s on their payroll
@@squidguard1
This video was made for you. You duck all the Q's Daniel was ducking. And you just go quite and disappear.
Nice conversation Masha Allah,, salute to Daniel and Shamsi.
LOL I don't know what debate you were watching but by enlarge Samshi got absolutely rattled
go to sleep
shamsi lowkey just wanted to make that point so bad😂
" Shamsi can we criticise the Rulers" avoids the question but with other people in the Park which are Lay he openly says it seems to me he feels threatened by Daniel thats why his avoiding to answer his question
Daniel knew his trip to the uk is not complete with visiting London nor is a visit to London complete without visiting speakers corner. 😂🎉
prophet mohamed pbuh said
(Whoever wants to advise someone with authority in a matter should not do so publicly.) authentic hadith
Daniel: is it ok to be an agent? Yes or no
Shamsi: i will answe, but bla bla bla !!!
Daniel: is it ok to criticize the rulers? Yes or no
Shamsi: i will answer but bla bla bla!!!
________
At the end of the conversation.
Daniel: again is it ok to be an agent? Yes or no?
Shamsi: You said in your post bla bla!!!
SHAMSI: YOU ARE EXPOSED BY DANIEL.
AS ALWAYS MUSLIM SHAMSI FIGHTING MUSLIMS
Correcting Muslims. Don’t be a fool
You ikhwanis are the number 1 reason Muslims are dying everywhere. Shamsi is a thorn in your side.
@@noneya3969 DONT INSULT, ITS HARAM.
bro this is aquida so aquida first that will unite us to be strong
@@moneyslaves
As he should. Anyone of ahlul Bidah should be fought against.
Why would you have a problem with that?
Just break my heart when I see Muslims brother's like this 😢😢😢😢😢😢may the almighty Allah bless them an guide as all 🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲
Whys Shamsi obsessing over the label rather than the core issues ascribed to those given that label. Weak and insecure behaviour I'm disappointed.
Because words have meaning. 'Sect' must have a defining usool that separates it from the rest.
@@sairamsriram label does not necessitate sect by the way and this does not answer why he avoided getting to the crux of the matter and discussing the core ideological points that brought about the discussion in the first place.
It’s really disappointing to see Shamsi adopting this ideology… may Allah swt keep us on the right path
Shamsi has gone to the shits lately. Daniel has debated so many people Shamsi wouldn't ever get too and he act like he can't debate. I still don't know why Shamsi can't answer the question.
Because Daniel digressed from the original point. It’s not that Shamsi “can’t answer the question” when he has multiple times, it’s that Daniel can’t stick to a topic and digressed from it.
@@talibin the beef between them is can you criticise the leaders. Not anything else. Where is the answer? Shamsi pulled it out his arse yet?
@@RR-qq3joYour defending Daniel accusing Shamsi of being a propaganda agent for governments? Curse be upon you and other liars.
Debates and opinions are always needed between religions and within religions. It ultimately brings more Clarity and unity.
Bro, we need no philosophy. We need Qur'an and Sunnah.
@@PrizrenaliZH it's all Relative.
@@alignment0 exactly not it is. Truth is one. Allah is Truth and Allah is Peace.
@@PrizrenaliZH 😉
For the ones who say this is not the appropriate time please say that to the Madkalis who are back stabbing the Ummah in times like these.
and you are fighting in palestine in this time.Emotional words because he exposed Daniel
@@hcenehcene5310
I don't think he exposed anything, he refused to answer questions and evaded the main issue and he contradicts himself a lot and refused to have a civil dialogue.
shamsi speak with quran and sunna and daniel speak with his disires
@@hcenehcene5310
Average MCA fan who follows certain "shaikhs" like it's a football club, the state sponsored Madkhali "shaikhs" have fooled a lot of ignorant young men in Algiers.
ممكن فهمني وين راك تنشن؟ تبانلي راك تنشن على الخروج.. طيب و الاحاديث النبوية الشريفة ترفضها؟ فهمني ما فهمتش وين بها@@Ya39oub_G
Brother Daniel Haqiqatjou wiped the floor with Madkhali Shamsi Allahu+-Akbar!!!!!!!
He should stick to wiping floors, he was digressing the whole time. Instead of talking about the issue of sects, and how "madkhalis" are a sect or not, he speaksa about rulers.
why didn’t he wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah
Did you even understand what they were saying
@@dawah.salafi akhi the ummah is upon huge ignorance that’s why ppl are saying Daniel won lololloooll I’m so confused as to how anyone with real Islamic knowledge would say such a thing…this is just proof Muslims today are guided by emotions instead of the shariah sadly(May Allah guide us all) if we want victory of Palestine we need a leader like shamsi not Daniel to be honest. Shamsis aqeedah doesn’t change because his aqeedah is for Allah and his messenger, whereas if Daniel was to become imam of the Muslims he would support so called madkhalis just to stay in power(therefore changing his kharijite aqeedah not for the sake of Allah but to stay in power)…SubhanaaAllah it just goes to show how sincere the salafi dawah is we wanna please Allah not the ppl no matter how many of them they are
Daniel is a Khariji. Its people like you who have 0 clue of manhaj that believe he won this debate. Daniel got exposed and he used imaam Albani as an example for criticizing the rulers. Hes a clown for even using such a foolish argument. You should also know Daniel praises deviants like the Deobandis who are sufi graveworshippers and his teachers are isis supporters who call for bloodshedding
I can't listen to this shamsi guy
5 minutes in and shamsi does not criticize bad rulers?
We wish that the meeting would end better than that. I respect the two brothers and I love the work they do for Islam. May Allah guide us all to the right path
this video just perfectly sums up the state of our ummah and why we are so weak to help Palestine
and i primarily blame it on the certain salafi sects that dont want to unite with anyone except their own little group
Win for Daniel Haqiqatjou
Shamsi got cornered on Palestine and the rulers. He got a taste of his own medecine
I remember that shamsi used to say that
(we should test the Muslims beliefs)
This is exactly what happened to Sheikh Othman Farouk.
shamsi said,
“We want to know his belief.”
like there no one Muslim except shamsi
This was really embarrassing for me as a Muslim. Shamsi was aggressive towards brother Daniel. Brother Daniel was just visiting UK. He shouldn't have been treated like that
Shamsi cnt help himself
shamsi views him as n enemy the same way omar sharif viewed the osmani kalifs
I'm afraid Shamsi has been exposed
People: Responding to shami's question
Shamsi: * interrupts * you're eh eh digressing
Typical shamsi tactics
Daniel is great on this 😂
Viva Daniel 💪🏻
We are left to a time where people like shamsi think that they are learned in the deen while his teacher Abu khadija can’t recite Quran
Oh mighty Allah, bless brother Daniel and his family and give them success in this life and in the hereafter, ameen
Shamsi and piers morgan are the same they both can’t answer a simple questions they like to dodge and always look for excuses by twisting words. May Allah guide brother shamsi to the right path.
Shamsi got schooled just runs behind 'define define, show evidence'
I mean isn't that how it goes? As a muslim shouldn't you be able to provide evidence. If shamsi is able to, why cant he? Why is shmasi held to a different standard?
He learnt that from Jordan Peterson 😂
Ya Shia and Kharijis hate evidence. Y’all love to follow your desires
well without evidence you cant prove what u claim.
You all just sad that Daniel schooled the babbering Shamsi
Seems shamsi keeps strawmanning him. He didnt come off very well.
Wallahi brothers this is embarrassing. At a time we need to unite, we're arguing. Brothers and sisters, wake up!
We can't unite upon falsehood
Daniel and the other brothers are doing their best and they take credit in us winning the info wars with Isreal which is crucial, while Shamsi and the others like him are condeming Palestine more than Isreal
Daniel didn’t confront shams I thought. Shams I confronted Daniel and Daniel responded
I saw video Shamsi citisized Hamaz. Regardless which side are you on, Hamaz, like it or not, is the ruler in Palestine. That's what Daniel's point.
We can’t unite with bootlickers and agents, it’s better to be divided then to join the falsehood.
Glory be to God, Brother Daniel speaks calmly and has a beautiful way of communicating, unlike Shamsi, who feels as if he wants to win by force and screaming as if he is in a barbaric wrestling ring, even in his debates.
I saw shamsi defending saudi arabia. This is the country that don’t let Yemen help gaza. And defenders of Israel.
Masha Allah brother Daniel
if you are calling someone Khiwarj be prepared to be called a boot licker
Shamsi got absolutely schooled. Shamsi! Answer the question! Do you criticize the rulers?
THIS SHOWS AND TELLS US THAT OUR SINCERITY HAS BEEN AFFECTED
May Allah guide you brother shamsi shake you brothers hand…. Subhan Allah
Sharmosa never allows others to speak
damn bro shamsi is straight outta the gate😂 masha allah
Okay next step to agree to disagree, shake hands and start over without needing to expose each other inshaAllah