According to BFG they are aware of a pretty serious counterfeiting problem. If you want a Vickers sling right now, make sure you can touch it before you buy it, unless you really trust the vendor.
I just ordered from amazon was $90 came in vacu sealed package and looks feels solid has quick releases. would have to be a masterful knockoff if that's the case
BFG gear is a no go right now. They delivered my buddies huge multi hundred dollar medical equipment order almost an entire year late, kept leading him on like it would be delivered in just a few days the whole time. No thanks.
i had a custom padded sling ordered and it took them about 2 months to ship it out. every week i emailed them asking when it was going to ship and they kept saying it was "going out today"
If you're looking for med equipment, check out bear independent. Really good setups and if you actually use it in an emergency, he'll replace the pieces for free, out of pocket. Stand up guy.
@@Hoplopfheil same thing with HSGI. I’ve waited up to 6 months for a fucking mag pouch. Probably could have bought a sewing machine and learned to make the damn pouch in the same amount of time.
Oh no , The stiffness of the Blue Force sling is what set them apart from everyone else , I think the non-paded version is the best I've ever used . The soft slings snag on things and you have to glance where it is to adjust it . I recently bought a new weapon and another Blue Force sling is on my to buy list , Thanks for the heads up .
not very impressed with mine. padding sucks. it doesn't even fill out the entire area for the padding. slides around and easily gets mangled. cuts into your neck even if you have some sort of barrier for your neck. The quick adjust isn't very quick, and tightening it requires extra effort or a second hand to be quick. Its thick, heavy; the buckles are thick and heavy also. 2 other folks in my gun club have them and have the same complaints. Also, unrelated to the belt, but BFG is really big into cop culture. fuck that.
I have two Vickers slings and I’m digging them so far. No complaints. Mine are not padded. I came close to getting them with padding and glad that I didn’t.
The Viking Tactics is another good option for a quick-adjust. About the same price as the BFG and with the same pad/no-pad option, but with a spring-loaded cam adjuster like Ferro Concepts' Slingster. I believe both Ferro and V-Tac offer a choice of either low-cost plastic triglides (what I've always chosen) or steel versions for a few bucks more. For me, it's V-Tac or Ferro for certain, they've held up well for me. Thanks, Hop.
"I held them side by side and squeezed them and poked them and folded them and rubbed them against my skin" I expected Hoplopheil to then continue with "and called it George"
I just want to say, I found your channel and really enjoy your content. I already owned a Holosun LS321, and still came back to your reviews to learn more.
It’s spring 2024 and I notice a difference in the webbing. I’ve had a gen 2 BFG Vickers non-padded sling for several years in coyote brown. Recently I ordered two new ones, direct from BFG, in ranger green. These are the gen 3 as described (flag stripes are outlined instead of solid bars). I can feel a distinct difference in the rigidity and flexibility of the webbing. The gen 3 bends easier and is less stiff. I have not used the new ones yet to see if this makes any difference in the field when shooting or carrying a rifle.
I run a Condor Speedy 2 point sling and love it. Never had a problem with slipping and it has not frayed in the time I've had it like some people will claim it does.
I've got an older BFG Vickers Sling. Best sling I've got. *PERIOD.* IDK about the ones hitting the market today, but if they're not up to par, the Magpul MS4 works in the exact same way the Vickers does. You simply need to poke a hole in the plastic tri glide and thread a piece of 550 cord through it so that you have something to grab on to when you need to slack the sling. It's an easy modification to do, no big deal. The Magpul MS4 is built like a goddamn tank, btw. I don't forsee this thing failing at any time in the future.
@@Dirtkid98505 Yes, it is my favorite rifle. They are not for everyone, but the biggest gripes most people have about them are the weight, the long length of pull for the factory stocks, and a fairly heavy trigger (around 10 lbs or so). The magazines for the G3/PTR 91 are still very affordable, and plentiful. The Spuhr stock takes care of the length of pull issue, although it is not the most comfortable stock to shoot irons with (you'll have to remove the cheek riser to do this), and with a shorter length of pull, the weapon "feels" lighter than it really is. I have not tried it yet, but there is a new HK SP5/PTR/G3 trigger group made by a company called "Shooting Star" that sounds very promising. I think the trigger pull is supposed to be less than 5 lbs. This same company has made triggers for IWI Tavors and ARs as well. If you end up getting one, try to get one with a welded rail on it already, and if possible, see if you can inspect the rail in person to make sure it's square just in case. Spuhr does make an excellent "screw on" rail for G3s and PTRs that do not have a rail welded on already, and this is the rail that the Portuguese Navy went with, but ideally a welded on picatinny rail is best. Hopefully Hop will do an update soon on his PTR with the changes he has made to it--he should have some good data points to share.
@@dexm2010 Thanks! I'm a bigger guy I can grip the front sight post of a 20 inch AR with A2 stock while wearing armor. So LOP isn't a big factor for me unless the G3 is very unusual. For the price it's hard to beat. I have a hard time picking an AR10 because there's not really an industry standard for parts and if a company discontinues their gun you're sunk. I wish I knew some one with a 91 so I could try it.
To be honest, I never saw the point in spending more than 15 bucks for a sling. In active duty, we had the simplest two point slings. They just worked. Got a 3 point sling once when an armoror buddy got a few of them in. The one I got broke. Still not sure if I just didn't use it right. But I wasn't crazy about it when it was working anyway. Surprisingly, the two quick adjust 2 point slings I bought off Amazon actually seemed a little better in quality than what I was issued in active duty and they were significantly cheaper than the stuff advertised by Magpul, Blue Force, etc. Bottom line is that you don't need an ultra comfortable/expensive sling. It is just a strap to hang your rifle. It's not like you are using it to hold a guitar to play a multi hour set. You probably aren't even going to ever ruck or March with it. I would rather put the extra money to more ammo.
Some people do use the sling for long trips through the woods though, yes joe doesn't need a high speed sling, probably doesn't need an ar 15 either, but you got one
@@drnage4495 I own a Blue Force sling. It was thrown in with a rifle I bought. It is nice. But still not that much nicer than a simple comfortable sling.
Great video, thank you. Been considering a Vickers Sling but never actually had one out of the Tube/Container to check it out but going to have to do that now. We’ve always had Mil-Spec slings work out ok for the most part, but we’re not out doing High Speed-Low Drag Ops where a better quality sling may/may not be an issue. But as always remember a sling is to a rifle like a holster is to a handgun.
I've got an OG first gen vickers sling that is in ACU Digital. (Which outta tell you how old it is). It is noticeably better quality than the latest multicam tropic gen 3 I just got. The hardware is thicker and stronger, the adjustment is smoother, and has been through hell. My newest gen 3 feels cheap. I just can't describe it any other way, I can't articulate why, it just is. Who knows 🤷🏼♂️
Feel is not a quantifiable value. BFG has changed their hardware to some more low profile Acetel buckles. The strength is still there. In fact, all it has to do is hold the rifle against your body, how strong do you think it needs to be?
@@225degrees extremely. If it snares while hopping over a wall or gets hooked on a rock or tree limb while sprinting to cover, it needs to be extremely durable
@@moss8702 No, it needs to break free before it strangles you and/or damages your rifle. A rifle without a sling is far more useful than a broken rifle with a sling.
@@225degrees no. Cause the sling usually has a QD buckle for you to detach. I speak from experience both witnessing and having my sling get caught by both those ways. It's easy to say "screw the sling" before you have to continue an op that you don't know when the end of it will be. Or if you need to traverse more walls/obstacles with your weapon. It's a crucial piece of gear. The examples I talked about I've seen multiple times and it never injured the individual or damaged the weapon.
@@moss8702 Good for you. No one was injured and no weapon was damaged in the incidents you saw. It can happen, it does happen. Your sling needs to break away before it injures you or damages the rifle. Either way, the sling in question is no less structurally sound than older models. A different look, different hardware or different textile does not equate to lower quality. Short of proper destructive testing, all the whining is nothing but noise.
I actually just got the Vickers sling because of the very high recommendations for it and I agree with the "bulky" sentiment. It has FIVE tri-glides not including the adjuster bit, and the connector in the middle, and whatever mounting furniture you put on there. I feel like I need to read a manual just to set it up right.
You are absolutely right, it does have 5 tri-glides. It seems like a lot at first, but they have extras on there for extra slack maintenance. I'm a smaller guy so I took off 2 of the tri-glides as they were unnecessary. I only have one on the front, one in the middle and one on the back. It's pretty simple really. I had to cut off the extra slack and burn the ends. It's nice the sling offers so much adjustment.
Bought a BFG Vickers back in 14 while I was on active duty. Been using it ever since. It’s multicam but it’s so faded it almost looks solid color lol. I have a newer one for my new work rifle and the quality of the plastics on the new one is lesser than the 2014 sling. The 2014 sling won’t die but I feel like I could break the new one.
Gotta admit...im really diggin how you make your videos. Concise...to the point...no fluff...no unnecessary garbage ( garbage is an all encompassing term for shit we really don't give a fuq about) So for that sir I say Thank you 🍻
They just filled a sizeble government contract for the Estonian army, they have vickers non-padded slings on all of their new rifles. Might be a drop in quality due to higher production.
At this point, I don't trust anything I don't stress test, even made in the USA from well respected brands. I bought a Magpul MS4 last week and new out of the package, one of the QD swivel wouldn't stay in when force was applied, pulling the rifle up by the sling was enough to cause it to pop out out of the cup. Thought it was just the QD cup on my rifle going bad at first until I did a swap test. Found out the tolerance on one of the QD swivel on the sling was just loose enough that it didn't like a locking QD cup. The other (good) QD on the sling didn't care whether 360 or locking cup, stayed put even with me pulling on it with force to try to get it pop out. Fortunately the QD with the loose tolerance is the one that's removeable from the sling and not the one that's sewn in place.
My BFG Vickers padded sling is beat to shit, even has some minor fraying. It's probably more sentimental, but we've been through too much for me not to love it.
This is why I make my own slings. Soo many stuff out there that I'm better off just tailoring one to my own needs. Some trial and error and I even find a way to make the adjustment not slipping without any locking mechanism.
I have a Gen2 that I've had for over a year and a Gen3 that I purchased about a month ago. I don't have a problem with either. Both work just fine. For all intents and purposes they're identical and interchangeable. I'll probably be buying another one.
I just purchased a BFG Vickers Padded 221 sling. Had to exchange it. The injected molded piece that allows it to become a one point sling was defective. I got a new one and it’s fine. Sample size of one.
I have a Gen2 and Gen3 as well (They were literally sitting next to me when I clicked on the video).My black gen 2 has what feels like more stitching where there should be stitching, but on my gen 3 tan it looks like the plastic for the slide adjustment is a bit thicker. Don't see any differences other than that... and the flag.
The Slingster, which I've tried on a buddy's rifle, and the SIERRATAC sling, which I'm currently using, are the best slings I've ever used. BFG sling seemed promising, but the changes to the material and slower shipping times would be a no-go for me too.
@@USN1985dos yeah, the Magpul MS4 QDM sling is the best. It uses the front QD to attach to a point on the sling to convert to single point. It's the best. To be able to transition from 2 to single point is awesome.
I suppose from a purely manufacturing standpoint, the constituents almost always get "cheaper" as the generations/revisions increase. How much you wanna bet LAV isn't even aware of this? PS-- Hop, you can sell/send that BFG sling to me if you dislike it!
I wonder if the people complaining bought their slings on Amazon. TONS of fraud there with everything. Just pick any gun accessory (especially red dots) and look for the 1star reviews. They seem to be the only legitimate ones since they included pictures and dates (Edit: spelling)
Buying firearm stuff on amazon=fail. There are plenty of reliable sites to source good parts from, yet people still stampede to amazon. Then are surprised to get fakes.Those people deserve what they get.
I feel the same! Bought all those slings you just named. IMO the top4. Ferro concepts slingster is by far the best! Not even close to the 2nd place competitor
Weirdly I've found I prefer the cheapest plastic-hardware, non-padded Vickers sling - though mine is maybe 5-7 years old. Nothing heavy about it, but it's not nice/metal/padded. It just works.
No shade but I don’t understand why anyone would want a padded sling on a Ar. Ive had my rifle slung for hours and never felt like it was uncomfortable. I know why people put padded sling on heavy rifles but the average MSR is still under 10 lbs with all the flashlights and tacticool bottle openers etc …. Am I missing something here ?
Got the BFG sling cause it was the recommended sling de jour. hated it, too bulky and the webbing is too coarse. Tried sierratac, liked the webbing but didnt like their adjuster. trying the magpul now and i like it ok but probably going to try the ferro or trex next.
Yeah I have two BFG slings I got off Amazon. One a year ago that is much better than the one I got recently. I think the one I got recently is a counterfeit. I was eyeing that TRex sling. I think I will try it out. I also ordered a Warrior Poet society sling that finally shipped. Hopefully it is good.
I ordered a custom BFG Vickers Sling 3 weeks ago from the factory .... waiting waiting, they tell me it might take 90 days ... wish I had seen this sooner ..... I am regretting the purchase already....
Hmmm mines a gen 2 I guess by the tag.... didn't know there were different generations. I got my ODG padded sling in summer of last year and it's the best one I've used by far, absolutely love it
SOB tactical makes great slings I’d add them to the list. Your observations were right it’s just the vickers name. it’s still just a sling they aren’t crazy better or much worse. Just cost more
I’ve got both a black Gen 2 VCAS sling (currently on my BCM carbine) and an FDE Gen 3 (on my DD M4A1). I’ve noticed some of the differences you’ve pointed out, but didn’t see a difference in sling quality.
Yeah I noticed a difference in the nylon fabric from my old ferro concepts slingster to the new ones and my older multicam black sling feels softer and of better quality then the new ones
According to BFG they are aware of a pretty serious counterfeiting problem. If you want a Vickers sling right now, make sure you can touch it before you buy it, unless you really trust the vendor.
Yup. Amazon users beware. Counterfeits run rampant there and amazon just wants their cut of the profit.
I just ordered from amazon was $90 came in vacu sealed package and looks feels solid has quick releases. would have to be a masterful knockoff if that's the case
Straight to the point like he doesn’t even care about CZcams money. Gangster.
what youtube money ? xD
Agreed. Love the no BS approach.
ok, see you later
Not only do virtually no gun channels get that Youboob money but Youboob runs ads regardless
@@mephInc What are ads?
God damn it. Here comes that Hop kid again coming in to squeeze all the slings. Hide the long vertical grips!
“I’m sure they won’t mind.” 🤣
best advice on youtube.
Squeeze them all
"okay, see you later"
"You open it, you buy it."
BFG gear is a no go right now. They delivered my buddies huge multi hundred dollar medical equipment order almost an entire year late, kept leading him on like it would be delivered in just a few days the whole time. No thanks.
Ordering anything direct from BFG is not a good experience.
i had a custom padded sling ordered and it took them about 2 months to ship it out. every week i emailed them asking when it was going to ship and they kept saying it was "going out today"
should have got his money back
If you're looking for med equipment, check out bear independent. Really good setups and if you actually use it in an emergency, he'll replace the pieces for free, out of pocket. Stand up guy.
@@Hoplopfheil same thing with HSGI.
I’ve waited up to 6 months for a fucking mag pouch. Probably could have bought a sewing machine and learned to make the damn pouch in the same amount of time.
My BFG sling might be thick but she's still more beautiful than these other skinny slings with no curves on them. #SlingAcceptanceMovement
Ohhh now of we're talking curves, my 5 Wisemen contour slings have a thing to say ;)
You speak my language
Chubby chaser
"Hey man, what're you doin' over there?"
"Just squeezing all your slings."
You can also use the steps Hop used to compare the slings on your girl/boyfriend for guaranteed results.
Oh no , The stiffness of the Blue Force sling is what set them apart from everyone else , I think the non-paded version is the best I've ever used . The soft slings snag on things and you have to glance where it is to adjust it . I recently bought a new weapon and another Blue Force sling is on my to buy list , Thanks for the heads up .
"WTF is going on with the BFG sling?!"
Apparently not much. Hop just doesn't like em, just cuz...
He does have some interesting views and opinions...
not very impressed with mine. padding sucks. it doesn't even fill out the entire area for the padding. slides around and easily gets mangled. cuts into your neck even if you have some sort of barrier for your neck. The quick adjust isn't very quick, and tightening it requires extra effort or a second hand to be quick. Its thick, heavy; the buckles are thick and heavy also. 2 other folks in my gun club have them and have the same complaints. Also, unrelated to the belt, but BFG is really big into cop culture. fuck that.
Padding on it is ass and it's super thick.
I have two Vickers slings and I’m digging them so far. No complaints. Mine are not padded. I came close to getting them with padding and glad that I didn’t.
The Viking Tactics is another good option for a quick-adjust. About the same price as the BFG and with the same pad/no-pad option, but with a spring-loaded cam adjuster like Ferro Concepts' Slingster. I believe both Ferro and V-Tac offer a choice of either low-cost plastic triglides (what I've always chosen) or steel versions for a few bucks more. For me, it's V-Tac or Ferro for certain, they've held up well for me. Thanks, Hop.
Got a viking tactics sling because of InRangeTV, love it a ton, got a vickers for my akand just went and got another VTAC for it to put on the adapter
Basically: you fondle gun slings and encourage others to do the same.
You say that like it’s a bad thing?
Reminder to self: don’t take a used sling it’s been rubbed vigorously 😂
All store-bought slings have a little bit of Hop in them.
"I held them side by side and squeezed them and poked them and folded them and rubbed them against my skin" I expected Hoplopheil to then continue with "and called it George"
I just want to say, I found your channel and really enjoy your content. I already owned a Holosun LS321, and still came back to your reviews to learn more.
*aggressively looks at my sling to see if it's a gen 2 or 3
It’s spring 2024 and I notice a difference in the webbing. I’ve had a gen 2 BFG Vickers non-padded sling for several years in coyote brown. Recently I ordered two new ones, direct from BFG, in ranger green. These are the gen 3 as described (flag stripes are outlined instead of solid bars). I can feel a distinct difference in the rigidity and flexibility of the webbing. The gen 3 bends easier and is less stiff. I have not used the new ones yet to see if this makes any difference in the field when shooting or carrying a rifle.
I run a Condor Speedy 2 point sling and love it. Never had a problem with slipping and it has not frayed in the time I've had it like some people will claim it does.
I've got an older BFG Vickers Sling. Best sling I've got. *PERIOD.* IDK about the ones hitting the market today, but if they're not up to par, the Magpul MS4 works in the exact same way the Vickers does. You simply need to poke a hole in the plastic tri glide and thread a piece of 550 cord through it so that you have something to grab on to when you need to slack the sling. It's an easy modification to do, no big deal. The Magpul MS4 is built like a goddamn tank, btw. I don't forsee this thing failing at any time in the future.
I can't wait for the vid on the PTR 91 with the Spuhr stock
Same here. I've got one of those stocks but I'm curious what his thoughts are on it.
@@dexm2010 I wanna get a battle rifle by end of year. You like the 91?
@@Dirtkid98505 Yes, it is my favorite rifle. They are not for everyone, but the biggest gripes most people have about them are the weight, the long length of pull for the factory stocks, and a fairly heavy trigger (around 10 lbs or so).
The magazines for the G3/PTR 91 are still very affordable, and plentiful. The Spuhr stock takes care of the length of pull issue, although it is not the most comfortable stock to shoot irons with (you'll have to remove the cheek riser to do this), and with a shorter length of pull, the weapon "feels" lighter than it really is.
I have not tried it yet, but there is a new HK SP5/PTR/G3 trigger group made by a company called "Shooting Star" that sounds very promising. I think the trigger pull is supposed to be less than 5 lbs. This same company has made triggers for IWI Tavors and ARs as well.
If you end up getting one, try to get one with a welded rail on it already, and if possible, see if you can inspect the rail in person to make sure it's square just in case. Spuhr does make an excellent "screw on" rail for G3s and PTRs that do not have a rail welded on already, and this is the rail that the Portuguese Navy went with, but ideally a welded on picatinny rail is best.
Hopefully Hop will do an update soon on his PTR with the changes he has made to it--he should have some good data points to share.
@@dexm2010 Thanks! I'm a bigger guy I can grip the front sight post of a 20 inch AR with A2 stock while wearing armor. So LOP isn't a big factor for me unless the G3 is very unusual. For the price it's hard to beat. I have a hard time picking an AR10 because there's not really an industry standard for parts and if a company discontinues their gun you're sunk. I wish I knew some one with a 91 so I could try it.
I love my Gen 3 BFG vickers sling so far. Been thinking about trying several other slings as well though
To be honest, I never saw the point in spending more than 15 bucks for a sling. In active duty, we had the simplest two point slings. They just worked. Got a 3 point sling once when an armoror buddy got a few of them in. The one I got broke. Still not sure if I just didn't use it right. But I wasn't crazy about it when it was working anyway. Surprisingly, the two quick adjust 2 point slings I bought off Amazon actually seemed a little better in quality than what I was issued in active duty and they were significantly cheaper than the stuff advertised by Magpul, Blue Force, etc. Bottom line is that you don't need an ultra comfortable/expensive sling. It is just a strap to hang your rifle. It's not like you are using it to hold a guitar to play a multi hour set. You probably aren't even going to ever ruck or March with it. I would rather put the extra money to more ammo.
No one reccomends 3-points, and maybe actually use a decent 2-point adjustable before you dismiss them
Some people do use the sling for long trips through the woods though, yes joe doesn't need a high speed sling, probably doesn't need an ar 15 either, but you got one
@@drnage4495 I own a Blue Force sling. It was thrown in with a rifle I bought. It is nice. But still not that much nicer than a simple comfortable sling.
@@bryanscle5431 Unless you are carrying an M240B for your hunting trip, the weight is not so much that you need an extra padded sling.
Great video, thank you. Been considering a Vickers Sling but never actually had one out of the Tube/Container to check it out but going to have to do that now. We’ve always had Mil-Spec slings work out ok for the most part, but we’re not out doing High Speed-Low Drag Ops where a better quality sling may/may not be an issue. But as always remember a sling is to a rifle like a holster is to a handgun.
I like this format,straight to the point without any gay slow-mo shooting with le epic music.
I’ve used bfg slings my entire professional career and never had an issue 🤷🏻♂️. Hopefully I won’t have any in the future
I can't imagine you'll have any trouble.
Your flashlight seems to turn on repeatedly when you fire at 2:48
That's what happens when you screw in the momentary tailcap a bit too far. They're really temperamental.
@@Hoplopfheil I've had issues with dbal 4 turning off on shots. I feel
@@Oxide_does_his_best USA USA USA
@@Hoplopfheil AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN, WHERE AT LEAST I'LL BUY A PERST
Makes me happy to see you two!
I've got an OG first gen vickers sling that is in ACU Digital. (Which outta tell you how old it is). It is noticeably better quality than the latest multicam tropic gen 3 I just got. The hardware is thicker and stronger, the adjustment is smoother, and has been through hell. My newest gen 3 feels cheap. I just can't describe it any other way, I can't articulate why, it just is. Who knows 🤷🏼♂️
Feel is not a quantifiable value. BFG has changed their hardware to some more low profile Acetel buckles. The strength is still there. In fact, all it has to do is hold the rifle against your body, how strong do you think it needs to be?
@@225degrees extremely. If it snares while hopping over a wall or gets hooked on a rock or tree limb while sprinting to cover, it needs to be extremely durable
@@moss8702 No, it needs to break free before it strangles you and/or damages your rifle. A rifle without a sling is far more useful than a broken rifle with a sling.
@@225degrees no. Cause the sling usually has a QD buckle for you to detach. I speak from experience both witnessing and having my sling get caught by both those ways. It's easy to say "screw the sling" before you have to continue an op that you don't know when the end of it will be. Or if you need to traverse more walls/obstacles with your weapon. It's a crucial piece of gear. The examples I talked about I've seen multiple times and it never injured the individual or damaged the weapon.
@@moss8702 Good for you. No one was injured and no weapon was damaged in the incidents you saw. It can happen, it does happen. Your sling needs to break away before it injures you or damages the rifle. Either way, the sling in question is no less structurally sound than older models. A different look, different hardware or different textile does not equate to lower quality. Short of proper destructive testing, all the whining is nothing but noise.
Had this recommended, watched it and now I know less than before.
I actually just got the Vickers sling because of the very high recommendations for it and I agree with the "bulky" sentiment. It has FIVE tri-glides not including the adjuster bit, and the connector in the middle, and whatever mounting furniture you put on there. I feel like I need to read a manual just to set it up right.
It literally doesn't have 5 tri-glides but whatever
@@WynEvans the "add your own qd" version does
You are absolutely right, it does have 5 tri-glides. It seems like a lot at first, but they have extras on there for extra slack maintenance. I'm a smaller guy so I took off 2 of the tri-glides as they were unnecessary. I only have one on the front, one in the middle and one on the back. It's pretty simple really. I had to cut off the extra slack and burn the ends. It's nice the sling offers so much adjustment.
Just got mine and I feel like I need to be a SEAL or Marine in order to figure it out and use it properly.
Bought a BFG Vickers back in 14 while I was on active duty. Been using it ever since. It’s multicam but it’s so faded it almost looks solid color lol. I have a newer one for my new work rifle and the quality of the plastics on the new one is lesser than the 2014 sling. The 2014 sling won’t die but I feel like I could break the new one.
I like the Vtac sling.
Gotta admit...im really diggin how you make your videos. Concise...to the point...no fluff...no unnecessary garbage ( garbage is an all encompassing term for shit we really don't give a fuq about)
So for that sir I say Thank you 🍻
They just filled a sizeble government contract for the Estonian army, they have vickers non-padded slings on all of their new rifles. Might be a drop in quality due to higher production.
At this point, I don't trust anything I don't stress test, even made in the USA from well respected brands. I bought a Magpul MS4 last week and new out of the package, one of the QD swivel wouldn't stay in when force was applied, pulling the rifle up by the sling was enough to cause it to pop out out of the cup. Thought it was just the QD cup on my rifle going bad at first until I did a swap test. Found out the tolerance on one of the QD swivel on the sling was just loose enough that it didn't like a locking QD cup. The other (good) QD on the sling didn't care whether 360 or locking cup, stayed put even with me pulling on it with force to try to get it pop out. Fortunately the QD with the loose tolerance is the one that's removeable from the sling and not the one that's sewn in place.
My BFG Vickers padded sling is beat to shit, even has some minor fraying. It's probably more sentimental, but we've been through too much for me not to love it.
This is why I make my own slings. Soo many stuff out there that I'm better off just tailoring one to my own needs. Some trial and error and I even find a way to make the adjustment not slipping without any locking mechanism.
“ Wave it around …. “ LMAO
I have a Gen2 that I've had for over a year and a Gen3 that I purchased about a month ago. I don't have a problem with either. Both work just fine. For all intents and purposes they're identical and interchangeable. I'll probably be buying another one.
I just purchased a BFG Vickers Padded 221 sling. Had to exchange it. The injected molded piece that allows it to become a one point sling was defective. I got a new one and it’s fine. Sample size of one.
I have a Gen2 and Gen3 as well (They were literally sitting next to me when I clicked on the video).My black gen 2 has what feels like more stitching where there should be stitching, but on my gen 3 tan it looks like the plastic for the slide adjustment is a bit thicker. Don't see any differences other than that... and the flag.
I'm still rocking a VTAC from...07? Love the way it adjusts. Padding is unnecessary.
1:25 🥴
Love my vickers . Just ordered a Vickers one sling
The Slingster, which I've tried on a buddy's rifle, and the SIERRATAC sling, which I'm currently using, are the best slings I've ever used. BFG sling seemed promising, but the changes to the material and slower shipping times would be a no-go for me too.
Love my slingster. Also like the Frank Proctor slings. Also, the Magpuls work good too IMO. I like how soft and pliable their webbing is.
slingster FTW
@@USN1985dos yeah, the Magpul MS4 QDM sling is the best. It uses the front QD to attach to a point on the sling to convert to single point. It's the best. To be able to transition from 2 to single point is awesome.
My non-padded vickers slings work great. larry wouldn't let you down.
Thanks for the video man, always love your views and opinions on things.
Algorithm has been loving you the last month. I need some of that juju.
I suppose from a purely manufacturing standpoint, the constituents almost always get "cheaper" as the generations/revisions increase. How much you wanna bet LAV isn't even aware of this? PS-- Hop, you can sell/send that BFG sling to me if you dislike it!
Hit me up on IG or Discord or something if you want it.
I’ll continue to support and use ESD slings, best you can get!
This is the guy that squeezes all the bananas at the supermarket to find the ripe ones.
I wonder if the people complaining bought their slings on Amazon. TONS of fraud there with everything.
Just pick any gun accessory (especially red dots) and look for the 1star reviews. They seem to be the only legitimate ones since they included pictures and dates
(Edit: spelling)
This and eBay. Tons and tons of fraudulent fakes/copies.
Buying firearm stuff on amazon=fail.
There are plenty of reliable sites to source good parts from, yet people still stampede to amazon. Then are surprised to get fakes.Those people deserve what they get.
I feel the same! Bought all those slings you just named. IMO the top4. Ferro concepts slingster is by far the best! Not even close to the 2nd place competitor
Weirdly I've found I prefer the cheapest plastic-hardware, non-padded Vickers sling - though mine is maybe 5-7 years old. Nothing heavy about it, but it's not nice/metal/padded. It just works.
Slings *exist*
Hop - "I will touch them and squeeze them and rub them and poke them on account of I love them."
Updoot if you've gone into your local LGS and squeezed the slings.
Man, you really know your audience!
This was a masterpiece, tip to butt.
No shade but I don’t understand why anyone would want a padded sling on a Ar. Ive had my rifle slung for hours and never felt like it was uncomfortable. I know why people put padded sling on heavy rifles but the average MSR is still under 10 lbs with all the flashlights and tacticool bottle openers etc …. Am I missing something here ?
I appreciate the honesty and him not jumping on the bandwagon like most others
I love the “okay see you later”
I rock the Gen 2 BFG padded sling I find the padding amazing when I need to lug a c6 or c9 machine gun but find it great for my C7 as well
Got the BFG sling cause it was the recommended sling de jour. hated it, too bulky and the webbing is too coarse. Tried sierratac, liked the webbing but didnt like their adjuster. trying the magpul now and i like it ok but probably going to try the ferro or trex next.
Your 80s haircut is the only reason I subscribe. If you get a haircut, I WILL unsub. That is a threat.
Understood
Big agree on the slingster its their best product and the best sling out there, even if its made by prisoners
I'm liking your style, sir.
Yeah I have two BFG slings I got off Amazon. One a year ago that is much better than the one I got recently. I think the one I got recently is a counterfeit. I was eyeing that TRex sling. I think I will try it out. I also ordered a Warrior Poet society sling that finally shipped. Hopefully it is good.
Anyone who’s never had or tried an Edgar Sherman sling needs to try one...better than any other brand I’ve tried.
I've got one. It's alright.
We have these issued for our 7.62 mm machineguns. Padding widh is adequate for that, couldn't imagine using it for an assault rifle.
I had one and ended up selling it to buy an ESD sling. One of the best decisions I made
+1 for ESD. It’s a Ferro without the heavy scratchy metal adjuster.
And this was an easy subscribe. Right to the point.
Mine seem fine, but then again im comparing them to a massive bungee/ paracord tacticool sling someone gave me.
I ordered a custom BFG Vickers Sling 3 weeks ago from the factory .... waiting waiting, they tell me it might take 90 days ... wish I had seen this sooner ..... I am regretting the purchase already....
BFG Vickers sling for life, gucci gang out!
I am seriously questioning my life right now, after watching this for two minutes...
i live by Viking tactics slings
I've got 2 Gen 2 slings. One padded and one not. The padded one, to me, is a lot better comfort wise and functionally
I run V-Tac on all my rifles. From hunting to ARs and have had nothing but positive results and experiences.
Time to rub every slings in the store, I guess.
Thanks Hop, keep that humor dry! We love it.
Just bought two for clone builds, directly from BFG. Definitely not my favorite slings either, but quality seems pretty high.
damn I love this guys vids. he gets right down to it.
Hmmm mines a gen 2 I guess by the tag.... didn't know there were different generations. I got my ODG padded sling in summer of last year and it's the best one I've used by far, absolutely love it
1:24 I definitely don’t know anything about the tape measure technique that you mentioned...
😉
Scientific tape measure reference got you a new sub
Haha It's the density of the stitching, I noticed this last time I looked at one a few weeks ago. Same result!!
Yes
No
Babe wake up, Hop posted another video from /k/
"Please don't squeeze the Vickers."
SOB tactical makes great slings I’d add them to the list. Your observations were right it’s just the vickers name. it’s still just a sling they aren’t crazy better or much worse. Just cost more
They are great slings. One could go minimalist and just use a length of paracord knotted at each end. Solved.
I have one. It's older and it's ok. But all I buy is Magpul now.
Vickers: "Why my sling is fat and soft."
Never heard anyone say it’s too thick 🤷🏻♂️
BFG was cool like 10 years ago
Damn I didn’t know you had a CZcams channel !!! … ima Subscribe now
Thanks fer postin fren
I have the same ear pro and sling... Love the vid 🇺🇸
I’ve got both a black Gen 2 VCAS sling (currently on my BCM carbine) and an FDE Gen 3 (on my DD M4A1). I’ve noticed some of the differences you’ve pointed out, but didn’t see a difference in sling quality.
Yeah I noticed a difference in the nylon fabric from my old ferro concepts slingster to the new ones and my older multicam black sling feels softer and of better quality then the new ones
The video is great because it has the feel of a shit-post but the information of a well thought out observation.
That's the best comment I've ever received.
@@Hoplopfheil most of your videos are like that. It's what keeps me coming back.