Rise & Rise of Kurt Cobain, VH1 Special (Documentary)
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- čas přidán 3. 04. 2015
- segment is from DVD "Prime Time"
Interviews: 12/13/93 MTV Interview, Michael Azerrad, Courtney Love, Mark Arm (Mudhoney), Jesse Reed, Charles Cross, Dylan Carlson, Buzz Osborne, Jonathan Poneman, Lee Ranaldo (Sonic Youth), Alex Coletti, Jeff Mason, Ann Powers, Kevin Mazur, Buddy Arnold, - Hudba
Kurt Cobain was an extremely complex and vulnerable human being.
Every human being is.
Yeah every human being is. Idk why you’re putting Kurt on a pedestal
"thank you for your tragedy i need it in my art " kurt cobain
His friend Dylan has that super relaxed heroin voice.
Thaaaaaats heroin.
Yeah I’m thinking at that point in his life it was methadone but who knows
That's not a thing tbh. Did it for several years and was in that world. Nobody's voice does that. Cheers
He has a band called “Earth”.
if you noticed, this is probably the only one 'story' docu that has the actual music of Nirvana, and other artists but that's because there's a budget to pay handsomely for it i.e. VH1.
You dont just become a generational icon. Its preordained. It was in the stars. The chosen one of the 90s.
Tupac actually listened to Nirvana and liked Kurt Cobain
@@heydudedolfan13 it’s a fake one
Но Курт слушал Public Enemy в своём плеере 🎉
So does Dre. Theres a part in a documentary where is his listening to them.
Kurt was intense in every thing he did. Miss you Kurt, of what could have been had you not been taken from us. Someday the truth will come out.
I fixed it for you. Kurt was intense in every thing he did. Miss you Kurt, of what could have been had you not met Courtney Love.
The thing I find interesting is the hip hop crossover appeal. Rappers today love Kurt out of all the rockers, and I was a huge rap/R&B fan growing up...had over 200 hip hop tapes as a kid. Just R&B and hip hop EXCEPT for Nirvana. It was literally the only rock music I liked & wasn't embarrassed to listen to for some reason. Kurt had a universal appeal I guess. I was a strange white child ;)
In 1991 I was in high school and we had a talent show. Smells like teen spirit was the song one of the bands played. I remember a lot of black people bobbing their heads up and down.
Guess what I’m trying to say is if a song is really good it has an appeal that transcends cultures.
Kurt brought punk rock to the masses,and he still sits on the throne to this day. Just an unbelievable artist who flipped long hair leather jacket 1980’s music on it’s ass!!
He is a beautiful soul. His spirit lives on.
Kurt Cobain 2278 yes it does he appeared when my band was playing something in the way
Thanks for uploading these :)
We love and miss u kurt thank you for posting
miss you Kurt
And anyone who has studied or listened to kurts lyrics know his songs rarely ever had and or stayed on topic.
We all know he took bits and pieces from different poems of his and mixed matched them together.
Now stay with me here......cuz I've yet to see anyone talk about this....(maybe it's common knowledge?)
We all know Kurt was in the process of trying to leave/divorce Courtney.
Now read the lyrics to one of the last songs to be recorded
You know you're right
The whole song stays to one topic
A selfish cheating woman and a man ashamed and embarrassed wanting to bounce.
"I will never bother you" (we break up I'll leave you alone)
"I will never follow you" (self explanatory)
"Never say a word again I will crawl away for good" (again self explanatory)
"I will move away from here"
"I always knew it'd come to this" (I knew you was a gold digging whore and seen you cheating a mile away)
"Pain" (author is in great pain losing his wife who took vows"
"There's talk about someone else" (Courtney was rumored to be sleeping with Billy corgin and is rumored to be have caused a fight on Valentine's Day while in Paris 1994 and is thought to have been to blame for the suicide attempt in Rome April of 94 but we know now it wasn't a suicide attempt and Leland cobain claimed Courtney drugged him)
"Nothing really bothers her she just wants to love herself" (she doesn't care about the authors feelings or how this is killing his heart and mental state"
"Things have never been so swell I have never felt this well" (the relief of a stress free life finally divorcing who you thought was the love of your life and no longer having to feel that pain and embarrassment)
The whole song is about his and Courtney's relationship it's in plain sight. I guess one could take this as suicidal as well.
All other songs about kurts relationships "about a girl" and "lounge act" do not share this pain.
All other songs seem to bounce around on topics.
This song to me shows he was about to leave Courtney for her being a cheating gold digger and if he was to commit suicide she would still get his money.
If he leaves and divorces her and or its murder she looses her fame and money
Smh
Daniel Malone true
This is how I interpreted the song. Probably why she sang such different lyrics at Unplugged and blocked the song as long as she did before the compilation/box set
I agree 100%
Disagree. She threatened to leave him if he didn't get clean and told him that he dropped Frances bean on her head while he was at the exodus treatment house and he had no recollection of it and was very very hurt and apparently hated himself for it. So after she threatened to leave HIM, he jumped the fence at Exodus. Caught a flight to Seattle. Got one of his dealers to deliver a bag to his house . Did a banger of a shot , wrote his suicide letter , blew his head off with the same shotgun that he, himself had purchased not too long before his suicide. .... And it's Billy Corgan* btw. And Courtney dated Corgan prior to getting with Kurt. Courtney and Corgan have had ups and downs but all things considered they've stayed good friends for the most part since they split up...
Look it up. Not shit that's directly aimed to vilify Courtney either. Just research solid facts and you shall find the truth 😎
@@SugarBabyNaomi absolutely correct.. He took enough heroin to kill an elephant the week before at his dealers. They were shocked and put him in his car and left him for dead. He woke up the next day. Hardly the actions of a man who wanted to live. His pain goes way back to childhood.
Kurt Cobain remains relevant because Kurt Cobain was genius.
19:27 - no Charles you mark, what a lot of Nirvana fans want answering is the neglect leading up to his death, his upcoming divorce from Courtney and the release of the toxicology report from the Seattle PD.
Listen to these people fucking reading shit from his journal's like he told it to them personally. So fucking sad; still just grinding the bones for those last flakes of gold dust.
Anything to get an extra buck out of someone
Good video
Jesse Reid's dad even said that Jesse told him Kurt was going to be 'somebody,"
Kurts thoughts on boomers were ahead of its time and totally fucking based
@TUbIuyola deff better than gen z lol
You guys understand boomers were born in the late 40s early 50s right?
@@jayo8767 no way man, the only thing with gen z is the “cringe” but boomers are definitely the most selfish generation.
missing Kurt rock engineering !
Gosh, I wish he was still here.
Especially, with his daughter.
Perfect, i know this Rise and Rise
You my man, are the greatest, nothing like having on my headphones at 2am listening to your Nirvana series absolutely brilliant, I've been with you since day one and I just wish I could give you more, to your channel , it's coming soon bro soon. Love ya keep it up.
Thank you this is what I was looking for
This guy loved milkshakes. Comes out of a coma? Strawberry milkshake!
That was one of the greatest❤
Time Marches On. Get it while you can!!!
You are deeply missed Kurt
Why did he take his life?
Because he could.
Nobody told him to do it.
It was his own decision and I respect that.
Cowardice? It takes balls to take one's own life.
Do I wish he didn't do it and were still around? Of course I do.
Yet the guy was an adult fully able to make his own decisions.
Mottahead he didnt
Mottahead thank you. People blame Courtney, the heroin, or depression... and those did contribute but some people just don't dig existence all too much
See, this is why I hate when people say "oh kurt cobain was the voice of our generation" or "hes a legend" because I honestly think it's a crock of shit. I don't think he wanted to be over the top famous like that. We could all see that he felt embarrassed. Kurt was just a normal human being and us calling him a legend or a god probably is a part of what killed him
You're absolutely right, what a pressure to put on someone. I think the thing that destructed him the most is that he wanted to become a rock star all his life, that's really what he wanted, and when he had it, he realised that that wasn't so good to be famous, i think he was really confused and disappointed. He was a normal person after all.
He wanted to be famous, but he didn't realise what it would bring him, then when he did become famous i think he was just overwhelmed by it
Yep, exactly, i think that when he became famous, he realized he was stuck in it.
HE WANTED THE FAME AND THE MONEY BUT IT WAS JUST MORE THAN HE EXPECTED. HE ORDERED THE STEAK BUT REALIZED IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE. FOR HIS SOUL.
Kurts.shoulders doesnt matter if he wanted it, it just was.
19:00 what did Courtney say ? Could somebody please write it down for me
He would pray every night. He taught our daughter to pray. One thing I would pray for verbally out loud was for him to love himself.
Leonardo da Vinci's Notes.
The sad thing is how the media and biographers and his own agents have exploited him in death much more than in life. Even at his funeral they already talked about a tortured angel who was not long for life on earth.
The truth is so much more horrible to think this guy went from happy, hardworking and proud within less than 2 years to being so pushed around by people who controlled and did not care about him that he shot himself in the face. One of his friends wrote that his death was the ultimate defeat and a realization what happens if you try to fuck with 'the system'- it will eat you up. Kurt must have been so desperate to go to such an aggressive end.
But the biggest lesson is, lay off the brown dope.
29 years ago .........
kurt cobain is awsome
Courtney Love needs to get prosecuted man. Sickening she definitely hired hitman.
Awesome to hear Kurt and the Melvin’s were into NWA, that was news to me but I’m the same way 😂
Truth is nobody really knew him even courtney after all they were barely together two years. kurdt was murdered anyone can see that one day it will all come out most likely after when miss love passes.
One of the best dudes you would have ever known.
Nevermind❤
Francis bean❤
miss you kurt!
even kurt was nwa fan
I like NWA too
The last great rock revolution I don't think the youth really understand how big this was back then my mom and dad never heard of any cool band but they new who nirvana was the culture totally changed the thing I think that really made it different was it Hage a huge market as far as age most music that explodes out of no place is normally under 16 grunge appeal was from 13 to 35 there is not many genres that have appeal to such a huge age range
Oh cool, I didn't know he liked nwa too
Public Enemy’s “It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back” was on his list of 50 favorite albums.
I think he was too introverted and real to enjoy the music industry. I think he was talented and intelligent, and more comfortable before he became really famous. the fame and his other problems, drugs, depression and physical pain, clearly overwhelmed him. I think he would have taken his life even if he had never become famous. people who say he was murdered just don't want to accept some people are truly just sad inside and don't want to go on
I suppose you think Epstein hung himself on the bunk bed (that he was taller than).
Inaccurate information “multiple suicides in his family” lol. Proven false. More BS rumours started by Courtney.
Whitney Grace not true. His great uncle or grandpa killed himself as well as his uncle
Exactly, Kurt's death was a murder
NotAfraid280 nope, one of them fell down stairs and the other’s gun discharged in his pocket.
Charles Cross is a Courtney yes man, so this really doesn't surprise me
the guy in the glasses is annoying me for some reason I don't know why
Swept180sxNet he looks like ben goldwasser
It sucks to say it! But Kurt should have been left to take heroin and feel proud of what he achieved. Courtney's, biggest regret was not letting Kurt, continue taking heroin.
I know that way it's like Russian roulette, but Courtney's knows that way could have avoided his suicide.
📒 He defined a generation
happy birthday kurt
So much of what they say in this is proven wrong. It’s good footage of nirvana though.
Did that man say “minstrel fluid”?!? Is that what happens if you milk an Al Jolson?
H loved us all of us
Kurt didn't kill himself. Watch "Soaked in bleach"
19:56 Looks like 40 year old Kurt looking at 13 year old Kurt.
Miss you kurt
Goat long live kc
He didn't want lalapoloza I think he was doing one more album nirvana and then just go solo he had to go he was a money machine that wanted to stop
Dylan was definitely involved in his death as was Courtney love. It’s so obvious as to what went on after doing a bit of digging.
what you see at 17:27 is the same dylan who bought kurt's shotgun?
I think yes 😢
Why would he kill himself when u could just kill his image and live on anonymously
"Flowers of Romance " by PIL had to be there ... f*** yeah !!!!!
.. not how teenage girls write diaries, these are: HIS PRIVATE THOUGHTS! Ideas for things, To-Do-lists...
wrote no teenage girl ever
Hi... Kurt
i've read the black people liked his shit and some big names in hip hop named him like a reference (dr dre, onyx, etc..)
What’s the song at 6:00
Paper Cuts
Ty
I'd pray every night if I married Courtney love too lol
Musicians that love feedback but don't take criticism.....hmmmm
Dylan was a bad friend, he is very suspicious, and i think Kurt said what he was going to do. I believe in a pact between them.
Courtney Love had something to do with his death
Kurt did not want to live there
I also have multiple suicides in my family
Your not to blam
#NIRVANA
#KurdtKobain
#XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Not dead we all know
I LOVE YOU KURT ETERNALY IN MY HEART , NEVER FORGET YOUR ART AND YOUR SENSIBILITY ⭐😇⭐ I DREAM I SEE YOU 💋❤
Charles Cross, spewing stuff about someone who he clearly didn’t know, I’m getting fed up with him now, as he clearly don’t know what he is talking about
There's no way kurt would kill himself.
N no way kurt was vulnerable enough to let someone he didn't 💯 trust close to him to kill him
He got back his anonymity the only way possible. It adds up if u look into it. He pushed his depression story with his final song. He made sure he fullfiled his contract... N much more details that prove he faked his death. Just ask n well talk about it. It's just way more plausible Kurt did what he wanted
@TUbIuyola do better research
Like what?
It’s so gross seeing so many people cover up for Courtney and instead blame his death on depression. It’s impossible to shoot yourself with a shotgun that can’t reach your head if you’re the one pulling the trigger AND especially when you’re OD on heroin. Courtney makes a lot of threats of death, the other guy was caught with screaming terrified girls in the background of his interview, she constantly fed him suicide thoughts which he wrote out so it was perfect. Also the police didn’t do their job right, probably saying who cares about a junkie. Murder always leaves trails.
0:13 ok? What do u think girls write about lmao he’s corny it’s not a shame for a man to have a diary
Lol exactly 😂
Yeah... I don't think that was a real invitation to read his diary, obviously lol. I think that was more of an attempt to kind of psychologically defend himself and create the illusion of having control over something inherently vulnerable and out of his control when he's not around, right? I think a young person in their early 20s writing fairly something a bit juvenile like that is actually worried that someone is going to read their most private, innermost thoughts against their will when they are not around to stop that person. Writing a message like that...it's more of a sarcastic invitation if anything. I don't think that guy went around encouraging people to read his private thoughts, does that sound like something that anyone would ever do? Would you want someone to read all your thoughts about your sexual preferences, all your ritualistic obsessions, your fears and desires that you don't broadcast for everyone to see and know? Rhetorical question, obviously. The fact that such a comment was used as justification to exploit for monetary gain this person's innermost thoughts is kind of a bit ridiculous and grotesque. I mean, maybe in a few decades, but selling the license to print them less than a decade after the dude is dead is a little bit crazy, no? However, I hope that that untruth and willful, deliberate, blissful ignorance helps Charles Cross feel like he was personally invited to read about Kurt Cobain's desire for assf'g.
I mean, we are talking about Kurt Cobain here, aren't we? Am I mistaken, was this a guy who seemed to revel in the joy and admiration and really have this avid yearn for everyone to probe into his private life, or was this the guy who jumped over a wall at rehab flew up to a big empty house with shot himself in the effing head shotgun because he could, intrusive, rushing and suffocating nature of sudden celebrity status? The guy effing killed himself because people wouldn't leave him to f alone, and his wife was cheating on him. Then less than a decade later she actually sells the guys spiral bound notebooks with his innermost thoughts for the express purpose of broadcasting them to the world with large. Nice
Inside and out he was a mindblowing guy 💜😥
💀
mind blowing 💀😭
anything in which Charles Cross is involved should be avoided
Shoot me but I actually enjoyed his book "Heavier than heaven". Could you please fill me In on way I should avoid him In the future?
he wrote a chapter in which he imagined what Kurt was thinking before he killed himself.
Okay yeah i agree with you on that one I did find that whole passage a bit unnecessary, however I did enjoy the rest of the book, or maybe that's just me
He based this chapter on what Kurt had written in his journals and the reasons that drove him to end his life. Even tho i gotta say that suicide was kinda romanticized in this book. But the book itself was really interesting and Charles R. Cross did a good job at putting himself in the mind of Kurt. The guy spent years working on Kurt's life and understanding the person, so i think that's pretty accurate.
No he didn't. he just speculated. That chapter was an insult. Yes, I agree, Charles also romanticised Kurt's life/suicide. I thought it was an appalling book written by someone who did not understand the music or the man.
@18:31 No Uncle died from a suicide, this is so fucking wrong information, this guy is terrible.
Agreed. Charles Cross is a disgrace. His book is an insult.
True!
Yes one of his uncles killed himself, what the fuck do you know ?
no, one of his uncles didn't. it was his great-uncle
What the fuck does it change ?
WY do people think they now kurt cobaiinF washing state
He WAS MURDERED
He WAS NOT
@@cherrykoolaiddisasters then why is everyone saying that? I keep reading comments on any nirvana video that he was? You think he took his own life?
COURTNEY KILLED HIM
First interview immediately starting off with a dork making a sexist comment is a terrible way to make a documentary about Kurt
Kurt was murdered
I'm pretty sure unplugged told us why he killed himself. You can find the answer within one of the songs. Go back in the past towards rocks roots.
kurt cobain was an original SJW from the 90's lmao
the whole Kurt's howl encaptured the pain that generation of kids was feeling has always rubbed me wrong. I think Kurt would have agreed with what I'm about to say. The early 90's was a generation of middle class kids from divorced parents usually raised by their mother's left to figure it out for themselves especially young males. The feminists out there will have a problem with this.......but look at the ridiculousness that it's led to! I heard someone say once Nirvana was the beginning of the liberal agenda.........maybe in some ways but to the levels of stupid it's turned into.....ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!. Aberdeen and that part of the country is rough neck.....a little guy like Kurt had to grow up tough (and use his brains) and I think Kurt was until addiction and Courtney ganged up on him. Actually he was getting ready to come out the other side even tougher than ever before as he was about to have fame, money and freedom for the first time. If anything, Kurt was the last example of masculinity before masculinity is how much you can push weaker men around using money and power. I think his howl was primal like some of Ozzy's best performances with Black Sabbath. It was unique but ROCK has lots of primal screamers before him..he was just carrying on the culture and tradition. He wasn't no voice of some wimpy hurting further demasculating the American white males of america voice. What a bunch of BS!!!! Even if he did put a gun in his mouth and pull the trigger.......that takes balls! He was doing what he wanted and found his release when he fronting his band. Though I don't I don't think he did commit suicide personally.....he pissed some people off and he had that element in him and you can see it in interviews on occasion. Though I think it was what he was worth dead at that time....before a divorce from everything....that got him killed. (my personal opinion).
As for going for going from living in your car in 1991 to the whole wrold wants to hear you perform SMTS over and over and you get all the food, fame, drugs and shelter you can handle must have been .......a trip. In life there is no finish line.......even with everything you ever wanted you will have moments of depression doubt despair. Expectat
Such a shame Kurt sub came to heroin.
he killed himself to stop heroin,,,,I guess,,,,,my profile picture is my son KURT COBAIN 👍
Lol that how u know Courtney just lying to make herself look innocent Kurt wasn't a man of faith he was an atheist!
Please provide evidence. "Light my candles in a haze 'cause I found God...YEAH YEAH YEAH"
...teach men not to rape...ok curt, bye, you made good music but thats all, sorry for mansplainin
Mansplaining is not a thing
I would think he wanted financial freedom more than being a rock star he once made Courtney love take back an expensive sports car because it was too flashy
Lol. There is literally an interview on CZcams of Kurt , himself , saying that he and Courtney both had bought I think it was a Mercedes ? Anyway , and he went on to say how they didn't want to appear as if they were a couple of "yuppies" so they BOTH decided to return the car and bought some sort of sedan that was more of a working middle class type of a vehicle instead. I think it might have been a Volvo .. do your homework .
@@SugarBabyNaomi your just splitting hair's
@@jonathanlund6708 no I'm literally quoting Kurt. Lmfao. Have a GREAT day. . and don't take my word for it .. look it up. 😂😂😂
@@SugarBabyNaomi what I posted was also a direct quote from an interview although I can't remember which one but it along those lines
@courtneylove it'd be so cool if you'd set this dude straight..
hahaha - 11:56 is the perfect Trump supporter stereotype ... excellent !
Rent free in your head. Bet he still is 5 years later