I care a lot! Mostly cause I recognized a ton of the stuff you described, got my testosterone tested a few times and all came back low. Currently working with my doctor to get TRT and hope I'll get some of the same benefits you have.
Good video. Mid 2023 I had what I thought was depression. Mentally couldn't stay focused at work, had zero motivation to do anything. Mowing the lawn required a full week to psych myself up, gained a ton of weight. Went to the Dr and had the full blood work done. I was well below the normal level. Been on trt for a year and mentally it's a game changer. When asked how I feel my response is "normal, I feel normal" You don't realize how good normal feels when you are down and out for a long time.
I have all these systems for along time now . I’m only 30 people keep saying I’m too young to have low test levels . But the more videos I watch it seems like everything you just said is how I feel everyday lol 🤯
That's how I've felt for close to 20 years now. I never really made the connection until my doctor tested me a couple of weeks ago, and I was WAY low. I started last week, so I'm definitely hoping for improvement.
I “don’t care” if anyone at a mass participation event I am it is using TRT. I “do care” that low testosterone is not well understood as a cause for poor mental health in men, nor as a potentially important part of HRT in women. So kudos for continuing to raise awareness of the “non-gym-bro” indications for TRT.
It’s also important to have a good doctor who root causes. My T was sub 100, took over 6 months to root cause a pituitary tumor. Now I take a tiny pill (not TRT) that rebalanced my hormones and drastically changed my life.
one problem is that "low" is not understood either. yeah, there is a reference range, but without a baseline measurement, you don't know what is normal for the given individual
I’m an endocrinologist and I need to clarify a misconception online about TRT. The acronym is pretty clear, it is testosterone replacement. It is a form of hormone replacement for when you are deficient. This term should not be used when testosterone is being given supraphysiologically. Whilst the long term use of TRT and its complications are a little unclear, supraphysiological use is definitely associated with many complications. I am seeing an increasing number of younger men coming in with an inability to make their own testosterone due to exogenous use. This has implications for fertility. However, on a wider level its use in social media is giving an unrealistic expectation of what the body can achieve, especially when people claim to be natural. It is affecting a generation of young people and making them feel inadequate.
Do tell me, what were the upper reference ranges for testosterone levels 50 years ago as opposed to now? Women's HRT is supported, mens HRT is demonised. You're an endocrinologist, well, that's about as much use as tits on a bull when it comes to male hormones. Sadly, it seems endocrinologists care, just not about male health. Ive experienced *healthcare* under endocrinologists: the lack of care when it comes to men with low testosterone was and is disgusting.
@@angrydoc4769 those young people are beyond help anyway. Online porn has ruined a generation. Prescriptions for Viagra and similar in men under 40 has skyrocketed. This isn’t normal. That and the legions of mostly autistic teenage girls being gaslit into thinking they were “born In the wrong body” that last one and the USA’s “affirmative care” model is a bigger medical scandal than lobotomies.
Spot on, I don't mind anyone doing TRT, meaning replacement therapy, I'm all for it. However, on social media, what most of those influencers are doing has nothing to do with therapy, they are blasting vastly higher amounts into their system, sometimes tenfold, often accompanied by other substances, but pretend it's just medical therapy, it's not. The industry is targeting young naive people that as a result, feel inadequate and potentially permanently harm their health both physically and mentally. This is terrible.
Paraphrasing: “Having those around you supporting the decisions you’re making about your own mental health conditions is very important.” This is a fantastic message.
No one needs to support you because you're on TRT. If you need TRT take it. But don't try to act like you're natural or would have been able to accomplish what you did on it if you weren't using it.
Been a long term watcher . First thing is like to say is thank you. After watching an earlier video of yours about trt I started my own investigation, we're around the same age, I had some of the symptoms and had really just put it down to old age creeping in. GP told me not to worry so I went private. My test was low, very low and without any other underlying medial conditions. Once I started trt I found myself again, I feel normal again like I used to. Again thanks to one of your earlier videos I'm back to the best version of myself and would likely have not done out without you. Top man!!💪💪🤜
1) appreciate your openness and broadly agree on most of your points 2) Testosterone levels decrease roughly by 1% per year after around 40 - medically setting it to a fixed level gives people on TRT a physical benefit vs placebo on average - fact 3) I agree there is no perfect solution - personally I'd be in favor of an honor system where e.g. your Hyrox score were visible but there would be a leaderboard toggle eg natural/TUE/PED/used PED in the past/etc. Like with age groups - it's nice to see the total ranking and also to see one's age group ranking. Peer pressure would do a reasonable job in ensuring athletes pick the right category, and it would be a lot cheaper / feasible
Sign me up for group 3. Triathlete, marathoner, avid cyclist, yet I feel lethargic still at mid 40s. I feel like the battery just doesn't charge to full anymore and doesn't output the power it used to. I'm signing up for a test, Mark. Thanks for being open and reasonable about this whole topic.
Age also comes into play. I had hoped my test was the reason but it was okish. A TRT clinic would probably have been happy to put me on something but it was within range so I'm staying clear. It seems stress, age, and "life" are the reason for my lower energy. But I did get it checked because of these videos :). You never know.
I have many friends that are on TRT. I'm 63 and have trained hard all my life. I have a lot of muscle and decent definition and don't need TRT yet, thank goodness. As long as you feel good, you do you.
This is the difference, continuing to maintain muscle naturally into your later years will often mean you will not need what I consider the latest pharmaceutical scam
I don't have a problem with trt, I have a problem with people saying they're on trt but they're blasting 200 or 300 mg a week, slap on 20 lbs muscle, and still try to say they are "natural".
Very instructive video. Competing in amateur events because you like to beat yourself over and over again is what it should be and what is motivating. Keep up the good content!
I am 43 and just started TRT. I have been a trainer for 20 years, a bodybuilder in my 20s, a national level CrossFit athlete and more. TRT has already massively improved my mental health. It’s incredible
I was diagnosed with hypergonadism and prescribed TRT and so glad I went to the doctors and found out and now have a solution.. 😊 I’m 51 and feel much happier.. Pete 👍🚴🏻
Really important topic Mark and well said. As someone of the same age I’m in the “hesitating” camp because of how it could be perceived, including by the mrs. As the dad of a 15 year old son I’m even more concerned about what he sees on SM. He’s just getting into the gym, which is great, but I’m quite worried about where that might go if he sees too many of these absolute fools on SM taking test in the their teens/20s for no good reason at all. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Aging is real, but natural. I think by refusing to age we Set a wird example for our kids and that the world we live in, because you people refuse to grow up. Why? Because they aren't needed as adults.
Spot on - 15 years of undiagnosed PTSD and depression, years 14 & 15 daily suicidal thoughts that felt like relief and piece, finally ask for help, include my wife instead of “I’m br OK en and fine.”, TRT and I can talk about trauma, understand breathing space and an able to move on. All from a guy known for smiling. Ex-marine Reserve. International rugby player. Able and capable individual. Thanks Mark. From a 51 year old, 112kg, compulsive eater. (Rings many bells?)Also called Mark!
I have friends who started TRT in their 40s. It has made them happier, motivates them to make healthier decisions about food, motivates them to get out of bed and ‘get after it’ in their words, it’s made them better Dads, a better husbands and better role model for their kids. It has its place and if prescribed or advised, I am all for it. And if it provided you with some aesthetic advantages coupled with hard and consistent work, then so be it.
I’m in my late 40’s and like others who’ve commented here I spent nearly 2yrs suffering with depression and poor mental health. I did everything I could to address it; nutrition, sleep, exercise, meditation, counseling and numerous antidepressants (some of which made me feel worse). Finally took the plunge and had several blood tests done. Turns out I had very low levels of luteinizing hormone (LH) which resulted in Low Testosterone. After a week or so with hCG injections the results were remarkable. It’s fair to say that along with the support of my wife and friends it saved my life. Don’t be afraid to share your problems and seek help.
Hi Mark, I’m very much in the care a lot category but that due to being in a similar position to yourself (that is, on medically prescribed TRT and also enjoy the odd fun run). Now I’m not quick enough to worry about getting on a podium, I may make it into the top 10 at my local parkrun but it depends on the day. My running performance in fact has gone down since I started therapy, as I’ve gained some muscle and am therefore heavier so a little slower but that’s ok. My mental, physical and sexual health are now much better (not perfect but on the right path). It’s changed my life for the better, but please people get a proper doctor from a proper clinic and do everything you can to improve things without taking medication before you start a LIFTIME Medication.
0:16 this is me on the first morning of any holiday to Europe, leaving the breakfast room halfway through a cup of coffee and praying the lift is empty
In my late fifties, got tested a year ago. I scored low but not super low. My doctor gave a list of symptoms that I should look for in myself if I want to get checked again. I train decently hard but I can't help to think that I could train harder if I was taking TRT. Not ready to start yet but keeping an open mind as I get older. Thanks for the video Mark
@@ArmendKrasniqi excessive tiredness, feelings of depression, weakness. It was a couple of years ago now. If I come back with those symptoms he would move my request along because in Canada a specialist has to look at you as well.
I am in the I care a lot camp. I used to be a competitive archer. I had to stop because I had to make a choice between having a treatment for cluster headache migraines or competting. The only treatment that does anything is a banned substance. With it I can function. Without it I could spend months in agonizing pain. Not easy to compete when your migraine is so bad that you loose your vision and collapse to the ground. But one of the side effects of my meds is that it reduces involontary tremor, and that is a huge advantage in my sport. So I stopped practicing. I teached for a while but competition at reasonably high level was what was driving me. Performance are definitivly enhanced to a very signifi ant level by drugs. And competing using those drugs is not only against the rules of the sports, it is very unfair to people who strugle without the substances. I don't want to win against a kid who trained hard taking advantage of my disability medication side effects. And participaying in lower level non testing competitions is just cheating as well. And same goes with TRT. There is no denying it helps a lot people who need it. But there is no denying it boosts performances.
I watched your discussion with Sir Steve Redgrave, and after a conversation with my wife, decided to get my testosterone levels checked. This was not about appearance or performance, but about my mental health (lethargy and mood swings). I was impressed with the process, which was very thorough, with two blood tests and a 30 minute appointment with a doctor, before any medication was prescribed. My results were very low and I am now on TRT. If there are performance gains, I am yet to see them. Physically I still look like a 52 year old man who has only taken an interest in fitness over the past year. Mentally, I still have bad days, but I would say that these are nowhere near as bad as they have been and are now significantly outnumbered by the good ones. I had never considered that me taking a medication to move myself into the normal range would be considered cheating, but if it bothers someone that the old bloke jogging around a course and finishing in an average time is a cheat, then it probably says more about them than me, I think.
Another great video Mark, I love that you’re openly discussing this topic. I’m also on TRT due to clinical need (5 & 6 total T) and I believe this is a topic people need to understand. It’s not cheating, it’s like someone needing glasses if they have poor eyesight! We need to de-stigmatise TRT so that men will be more inclined to seek the help they need.
Best mind set is to compete against yourself. Testing easy to beat. So many people do insulin and growth hormone and the like which are expensive and hard to test let alone regular testing throughout the year , so many people do gear most year round then stop a few moths before competition.
I'm more worried about influencer culture more than anything, which includes test/hgh. I've watched a handful of people in my gym jump on this 'Dubai Deano' train, and I just feel sorry for them more than anything.
Love these videos mate - you motivated me to start my own channel a few years ago and I look forward to your every video. Keep doing what you're doing and spreading good information, and a bit of humour ;)
Hi mark, After watching your channel for some time, I’ve taken the plunge and have been tested for testosterone at the lower end of the scale. My Docs have been happy to throw pills at me for years for how I am and how I feel. I’ve stopped the pills and begun my journey on TRT, and I think you speaking out on your experience is brilliant. Regards Mark
I watched your videos on TRT and they struck a cord with me about my mental health and issues I was having. I took a test and my levels were through the floor and started my TRT journey two months ago. I already feel better about myself but it is only part of the process I am on. I won’t lie though my training has improved too but to me that’s a side benefit. Thank you for your open and honest information and opinions. The humour helps too.
Good information about some events not allowing people on TRT (despite the medical need) to participate. It's something I'd not considered. There does seem to be a dearth of support and understanding both from healthcare in the UK and society. Hopefully this is something that will change, despite social media trying to ruin the reputation of hormone replacement (present company excluded).
This video was great! I’ve had concerns for the first part of this year as I’ve started to look after my health, nutrition and regular gym but I’ve just ordered a test to see if that’s a contributing factor!
What a brilliant video. There is so little information around on the effects of low testosterone in men and the reasons to get it checked. Your video with Sir Steve Redgrave along with your other videos on this have encouraged me to get mine checked. Thank you for making these types of videos.
I never heard of Hyrox until these videos. Then looked for one in Canada. Didn’t find one. A year after I saw some pop up. I’m fairly confident that the videos that Mark did on Hyrox helped the sports popularity.
Keep up the great work Mark, we both know it helps but you put in the work. 39 year old on it for a year. If I don't workout or diet it doesn't do much. I was in best shape before TRT and tanked my T cus I over trained.
Hopefully your doctor tested all the top 12 hormones??? If not, you might not be as good as you could be. Hopefully he did a muscle tissue sample (biopsy), bone marrow sample,.... Vitamin and Mineral testing for deficiencies (these issues generally don't show up in the serum / blood test)
@@anonb315 YES. Fast simple easy. And most of all, then you know your health status. Of course, all depends on your level of detail. For example, I have a 71' SS Chevelle, 454, blower, nos kit,.... every 6 months, pull out the motor, tear down, rebuild,... Once you investigate all of your baseline values, then you have something to work with in the future. Too many people wait to come see me once they have late stage cancer. Too many guys wait to come see me when their thyroid or test level are low. If they would have made regular visits, many things could have been done to prevent the issues. To each their own. Their body, their choice. I have bodybuilders and powerlifters patients that see me once a month for blood work. How much do you love your body and how much do you want to invest to take care of it?
@@olommentes 🤣😂😂😂🤣. Everyone has two choices. Learn the details of their health status or live in ignorance of their real health. Another example, full body MRI. In the USA it is expensive, here in Colombia, it is very reasonable for my patients to get a full body scan every two years. I can look for tumors, visceral fat, bone density,...... For females with implants, it can be very beneficial.
If your gonna be a CZcamsr you need to accept that there are plenty of losers being a screen commenting nasty stuff just for the sake of it! Honesty is the best source of information, that is why I am watching this video so I can make that call if I wanna be on trt or not
I like how you share your experience, I had been sick recently and after recovering I went to the doctor and she suggested getting my bloods checked again (last checked a year ago), I asked if they could check testosterone (thinking it could be the reason behind mood swings). Turns out it is relatively high for my age, maybe I’m just a grumpy old prick.
What bothers me is all the CZcamsrs who insist on getting their test levels checked when there's literally nothing wrong. It's like going to get an MRI for views. The latest one to piss me off is Goal Guys. "I want to lose 10lbs, maybe I better check my testosterone levels." And then the comments are full of idiot kids saying his numbers are low. Then there's the Huberman crowd that insists they need to follow an 80 step routine every morning or their testosterone will plummet. Annoys me to no end when I see a fit CZcamsr make a video of them waking up at dawn to go stare at the sun for 20 minutes so they get that .03 boost to their test levels.
Care a lot. I use the same clinic as you Mark to get to a normal range. The 40 plus men that could benefit from this and improve their lives is significant. For amateur sport there are many ways people have advantages over others, more money, more time, better genetics. I would say Hyrox may be better expanding the policy. If you wish to appear in official leagues/results you need to submit a sample. For those on the podium it would be worth it, for everyone else they can just enjoy their own performance.
Good content. The haters won’t understand the medical need especially for mental health issues. Proper, not misused or abused, brings levels into a stronger normal range.
Your commentary is SOOOOO well balanced! Your opinion and attitude are incredibly courageous. You should be President of a Country. I would 100% vote for you. Please keep it up.💪💪
Absolutely fine for someone with abnormally low levels to take TRT to bring it up to normal levels. That's just medical. I judge the hell out of guys who already have healthy levels but take it to get huge or to eek out a couple percentage points of performance. Although it's more like pity that they're so easily influenced. And by some of the worst people too.
Quality video as always. And your comments about young people are spot on. I think a large focus has been on how young girls see women portrayed on social media, but this stance for boys is equally profound IMO
A Big Thanks from me. I tested due to some of your previous videos.( Sir Steve Redgrave ) I thought I was loosing my memory as my brain fog was so strong. 1 month in to my first prescription I'm already feeling 100% better and actually sleeping considerably finer too.
Don´t care. However.. Rules in sport or events are there to be followed and even if you are competing for last place you should respect the anti doping or whatever rules there are. You do you and if TRT if the thing you need to feel good then it´s the way to go but the tradeoff may be that you can not participate in certain events or sports. Thanks for the videos!
Looking into TRT myself. More due to brain fog, irritability and my short term memory getting quite bad. I got my first blood test and it was very close to the low threshold. I'm getting the second test the middle of next month. So see what comes out of that I guess.
My TRT is borderline but I don't like the idea of being stuck to a syringe for the rest of my life. If things get worse, I'll consider it though. Would look for any means to fix naturally first though of course
I'm 55 years old and have often wondered if its worth getting my TRT levels checked. I exercise a lot, and just want to be able to keep doing so for as long as possible (ideally until I hit 100 years, then I might take a break!) what are the long term effects of taking TRT? do the benefits outweigh the disadvantages for someone of a 'seasoned' age like me? A lot to learn - I didnt even know you could be given TRT by your GP - thank you for these and the other video's on the topic, never too old to learn!
Hey Mark, I always enjoy your content but this video triggered me a little bit. For a while, I have been thinking of doing TRT. I was tested last year and I am in the 400 range which I think is not a bad number. The only reason I thought of doing it it's because I want to look more muscular. I have been very consistent in gym life for more than 5 years, but I think I started my gym journey too late (29 years old). I had someone at my current gym that was the perfect muscular guy and he pushed me to do TRT. Fast forward to now, I didn't do it because I don't want to be dependent of something for the rest of my life. At the same time, I am with depression meds and I've tried stopping twice and it didn't go well. Anyway, just thought of sharing my story. I am a gay man and I am surrounded by social media that shows muscular guys and it seems that if I don't look like that I will never be able to find a partner and build a family. Thank you for your words!
Be honest Mark, were you on TRT when you took the coveted duck pond podium? If so, the duck pond people might want a word with you….😂😂😂😂. Solid perspective and input on an over saturated and misunderstood topic. Well done.
My story is very similar to yours--I used to be over 300 pounds and over 10 years, got down to 170 (I'm 5'8"). At the end of my weight loss, I felt worse mentally than I ever had (my wife was actually the one to make me recognize how "off" I was behaving--depressed, angry, unmotivated, etc). I got tested and was diagnosed as hypogonadal and was prescribed test. It has been absolutely life-changing for me. My concern is the normalization of anabolics across the whole population. We've all seen the number of Jack3d teens in the gym multiply every few months and I'd bet a LOT of them are on gear. I'm completely open when people ask me about my workout routine, etc... but I'm worried this open-ness across the fitness world has changed the expectations for what is achievable naturally and that TRT has opened the door much wider to what is seen as "normal" behavior. "Everyone is on TRT, so what's the problem with one "small" cycle?".
Actually, there is NO problem with a properly designed and monitored “small cycle”. The problem is the lack of knowledge how to do a proper cycle, what exactly to use (and more importantly NOT to use) and how much, and how to get off the cycle. So the actual problem is stigmatisation, crappy underground ‘roids, and no coaching / heath monitoring by a professional specialized in steroid use. I’m strongly in favor of the right of people to do with their body what they wish to do. But there must be proper guidance and harm reduction. Its exacly the same with plastic surgery. You wouldnt go to a underground “surgeon” who has no clue what he is doing to fix your nose - would you? Same with steroid use. Properly done, with a specific goal in mind (say, gaining 8kg of muscle for example) the risk is almost nonexistent.
You participating in competitions excluding yourself from the podium is very courageous. I could'nt do it. I just quitted competition myself. It is gut wrenching to participate in an event and being excluded from the party/celebration.
I'm 42. T was in the 300s, in very good shape overall, previously competed in natural bodybuilding. Energy, focus, libido all had been trash for a few years. Now on 140mg T/week and life is dramatically better, T levels in the 800s. I did notice an uptick in performance and lean mass, but these were not important or goals for me, TRT was a means to reclaim the vitality in my life.
From what age did you start using it pal? The mood element of it is something all men would benefit from, im 41 and am definitely open to it down the line...
TRT provides a constant dose of testosterone, without the natural peaks and troughs associated with sleep, stress, eating, etc. Therefore, even if someone on TRT is claiming to be effectively natural, they're experiencing benefits that are unattainable to those not on TRT.
Btw You are part of what motivated me to start running. 2 years aggo I was 100kg and could barely walk 1km. Today I run a 4K up and down mountains every single day. I am still 100kg though =)
I think there is a value in having a category for enhanced athletes, in the same way F1 has a trickle down effect to consumer vehicles. Imagine what things could be found from experimenting for performance. Aslong as its not hidden, then crack on.
a very good video I'd disagree on people taking too much just because of looking good, a lot of people report feeling very good on it with very fast progress, which I guess is where the spiral begins when they hit their new limit. Personally, I don't care all that much as long as people are informed about both TRT itself, and the influencers taking it, and how their example / advice is affected by the high testosterone levels.
Useful video. How is it possible to discern a reputable clinic in the uk that’s reasonably affordable, amongst all the other offerings that any internet research throws up? The number of options is mind boggling and for the most part appears either super expensive or targeted at the gym-bro audience?
I did a test. I'm 46 years old and my reading is 11 nmol/L. I'm told this isn't low enough for TRT. I qualifed for the Hyrox worlds this years, and did a triple ironman so I'm doing ok, but I get brain fog, tired etc. But I have put this down to not enough food for the level of training. With my Maintanance cals being 2379, I have put this up to 2400-2500 as I train 6 days a week ( was on 4000 when training for the Triple!) . Along with lots of dog walking etc. I am 67kg 5'7 bloke. If you take drugs and compete, then your a cheat period. It annoys me I don't look a certain way, but I'm not going down to 2000cals for a six pack, performance over aesthetics. Lucky I 'm good looking ;-)
i think if you compete it feels like cheating although i know lots of people do it. is it for health mental or otherwise i am good with it. if you use it to perform better but not compete i am also good with it
I'm 50+ so we didn't have test etc everywhere like they do today when we were all in our 20's. You hear about young men taking test to try and look good on their holidays to Ibiza which I think is super sad. No ones allowed to be average and normal anymore. And if they are, they think there's something wrong with them, because they don't look like some insta model.
I haven't had it tested. I was wondering if it was low or I needed to get stronger. I have been working out since May of 2020. I did take testosterone enhancing supplements, but not steroids. I took Testrx. Not currently taking it. I am currently taking ashwagandha. I take creatine and other supplements that I think are beneficial to my health. I'm working on losing weight now after eating as much as I wanted since May of 2020 when I started weight lifting. I did a short diet during that time when I worked with a trainer. It was at least three months. I don’t remember the exact time frame. I think my results are good. I am not very strong according to online strength standards which is why I was wondering if it was low. I am happy with the way I look. I just need to lose enough body fat. I want an athletic look and think I currently have enough muscle to get that look after losing enough body fat. I am age 43. I think age would be relevant. I am stronger than the average person, but not the average person in the gym.
I’m 50 have family and friends using it. Some for working out some just had no energy. It is the new designer drug of late. I may go see a DR. I feel weird asking due to the popularity of it
A lot of men are now prescribed TRT and never discover the true root of why their testosterone was low. This inevitably results in early morbidity and we will see an epidemic caused by ignored disease and/or deficiency in the next couple of decades
For some reason everyone on the internets forgot that TRT treats low testosterone for the purposes of restoring it to normal levels, not just taking non-needed medication to get jacked out of your mind (also a lot of people that are jacked out of their mind are not just on Testosterone, but other even more potent drugs). My personal belief is that a lot of people have no idea how powerful testosterone is and how many processes it regulates, given that you have a "healthy" and somewhat "normal" body you would not want to have to think about the downstream side effects of an injection you take twice a week, especially if it is just in the name of looking good.
I started TRT 12 months ago, and it's been transformative for the mental health problems I've struggled with for over 20 years. Frankly, I put off starting TRT for at least 2 years because any time I did any research into it, all I saw was people who worship the J*rdan P*tersons and Andr*w T*tes of this world - people I have zero in common with or respect for - claiming it was a silver bullet that any man simply HAD to have. And it was only when I saw your videos - an ordinary bloke who was clearly not caught up in that bullshit version of modern masculinity pushed by shills like those mentioned above - that I felt ok about talking to my doctor and asking for help.
Thanks for this. I think I'm in the same boat as you pre-trt. Fit, early 40s and I'm looking for effective treatments to mental health. But as an "athlete", I'm worried about the stigma of even bringing it up with my doctor or family and feel like i need some initial research on if it's an avenue i want to explore. Any advice on how to wade through the bs? I'm even scared of doing the initial self research for fear of the impact on "the algorithm"
I am wondering if it is like HRT, which I take because my hormones are low, but they dont give you massive amounts, just enough to get you to the low end of the scale. I had more hormones in my contraceptive pill 15 years ago. So my take on guys taking TRT because they test under the low range is that it probably only takes them to within the low range or mid range, whereas your guy bro's are putting TRT on top of probably mid to high range so getting the boost out of it. taking hormones to feel 'normal' is massively different IMO.
Are you in the "don't care" or "care a lot" camp?
Don't care unless its measured competition where an unfair advantage is gained.
I care a lot! Mostly cause I recognized a ton of the stuff you described, got my testosterone tested a few times and all came back low. Currently working with my doctor to get TRT and hope I'll get some of the same benefits you have.
Don't care camp. Just weird to worry about what another guy does with his testicles. 😅
Not my business.
Honestly, don’t care at all, it’s nobody’s business but yours 💪
Good video. Mid 2023 I had what I thought was depression. Mentally couldn't stay focused at work, had zero motivation to do anything. Mowing the lawn required a full week to psych myself up, gained a ton of weight. Went to the Dr and had the full blood work done. I was well below the normal level. Been on trt for a year and mentally it's a game changer. When asked how I feel my response is "normal, I feel normal" You don't realize how good normal feels when you are down and out for a long time.
Absolutely 👍
I have all these systems for along time now . I’m only 30 people keep saying I’m too young to have low test levels . But the more videos I watch it seems like everything you just said is how I feel everyday lol 🤯
That's how I've felt for close to 20 years now. I never really made the connection until my doctor tested me a couple of weeks ago, and I was WAY low. I started last week, so I'm definitely hoping for improvement.
Mate that speed walking clip will always get me 😂
I remember walking home from junior school exactly like that, it didn't end well 💩
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@@AL3Z72 that’s me 😂
That plus duck pond podium keeps me around here 😂
I heard they're dropping speed walking from the Olympics and I am certain that video of Mark is the sole reason why
I “don’t care” if anyone at a mass participation event I am it is using TRT. I “do care” that low testosterone is not well understood as a cause for poor mental health in men, nor as a potentially important part of HRT in women. So kudos for continuing to raise awareness of the “non-gym-bro” indications for TRT.
It’s also important to have a good doctor who root causes. My T was sub 100, took over 6 months to root cause a pituitary tumor. Now I take a tiny pill (not TRT) that rebalanced my hormones and drastically changed my life.
one problem is that "low" is not understood either. yeah, there is a reference range, but without a baseline measurement, you don't know what is normal for the given individual
I’m an endocrinologist and I need to clarify a misconception online about TRT. The acronym is pretty clear, it is testosterone replacement. It is a form of hormone replacement for when you are deficient. This term should not be used when testosterone is being given supraphysiologically. Whilst the long term use of TRT and its complications are a little unclear, supraphysiological use is definitely associated with many complications. I am seeing an increasing number of younger men coming in with an inability to make their own testosterone due to exogenous use. This has implications for fertility.
However, on a wider level its use in social media is giving an unrealistic expectation of what the body can achieve, especially when people claim to be natural. It is affecting a generation of young people and making them feel inadequate.
Do tell me, what were the upper reference ranges for testosterone levels 50 years ago as opposed to now? Women's HRT is supported, mens HRT is demonised.
You're an endocrinologist, well, that's about as much use as tits on a bull when it comes to male hormones. Sadly, it seems endocrinologists care, just not about male health.
Ive experienced *healthcare* under endocrinologists: the lack of care when it comes to men with low testosterone was and is disgusting.
@@angrydoc4769 those young people are beyond help anyway. Online porn has ruined a generation. Prescriptions for Viagra and similar in men under 40 has skyrocketed. This isn’t normal. That and the legions of mostly autistic teenage girls being gaslit into thinking they were “born In the wrong body” that last one and the USA’s “affirmative care” model is a bigger medical scandal than lobotomies.
All influencers are blasting! As the great Nate Diaz once said "everybody's on steroids!"
Spot on, I don't mind anyone doing TRT, meaning replacement therapy, I'm all for it.
However, on social media, what most of those influencers are doing has nothing to do with therapy, they are blasting vastly higher amounts into their system, sometimes tenfold, often accompanied by other substances, but pretend it's just medical therapy, it's not.
The industry is targeting young naive people that as a result, feel inadequate and potentially permanently harm their health both physically and mentally. This is terrible.
Paraphrasing: “Having those around you supporting the decisions you’re making about your own mental health conditions is very important.” This is a fantastic message.
No it is not necessarily a fantastic message. Some decisions will be good, some will be bad.
No one needs to support you because you're on TRT. If you need TRT take it. But don't try to act like you're natural or would have been able to accomplish what you did on it if you weren't using it.
Been a long term watcher . First thing is like to say is thank you. After watching an earlier video of yours about trt I started my own investigation, we're around the same age, I had some of the symptoms and had really just put it down to old age creeping in. GP told me not to worry so I went private. My test was low, very low and without any other underlying medial conditions. Once I started trt I found myself again, I feel normal again like I used to. Again thanks to one of your earlier videos I'm back to the best version of myself and would likely have not done out without you. Top man!!💪💪🤜
I feel the same. Have no trust in doc’s and I’ll be sent on my way. Where did you get test and then treatment ?
Good to hear your thriving now mate
Where did you go?
1) appreciate your openness and broadly agree on most of your points
2) Testosterone levels decrease roughly by 1% per year after around 40 - medically setting it to a fixed level gives people on TRT a physical benefit vs placebo on average - fact
3) I agree there is no perfect solution - personally I'd be in favor of an honor system where e.g. your Hyrox score were visible but there would be a leaderboard toggle eg natural/TUE/PED/used PED in the past/etc. Like with age groups - it's nice to see the total ranking and also to see one's age group ranking. Peer pressure would do a reasonable job in ensuring athletes pick the right category, and it would be a lot cheaper / feasible
Sign me up for group 3. Triathlete, marathoner, avid cyclist, yet I feel lethargic still at mid 40s. I feel like the battery just doesn't charge to full anymore and doesn't output the power it used to. I'm signing up for a test, Mark. Thanks for being open and reasonable about this whole topic.
Age also comes into play.
I had hoped my test was the reason but it was okish.
A TRT clinic would probably have been happy to put me on something but it was within range so I'm staying clear.
It seems stress, age, and "life" are the reason for my lower energy.
But I did get it checked because of these videos :). You never know.
I have many friends that are on TRT. I'm 63 and have trained hard all my life. I have a lot of muscle and decent definition and don't need TRT yet, thank goodness. As long as you feel good, you do you.
This is the difference, continuing to maintain muscle naturally into your later years will often mean you will not need what I consider the latest pharmaceutical scam
That speedwalking clip is up there with the duck pond one
I don't have a problem with trt, I have a problem with people saying they're on trt but they're blasting 200 or 300 mg a week, slap on 20 lbs muscle, and still try to say they are "natural".
I am in the camp "do what's good for you". However, interesting to hear your perspective, as always.
All good until money is involved. Then all the virtue signalling goes out the window.
Very instructive video. Competing in amateur events because you like to beat yourself over and over again is what it should be and what is motivating. Keep up the good content!
I am 43 and just started TRT. I have been a trainer for 20 years, a bodybuilder in my 20s, a national level CrossFit athlete and more. TRT has already massively improved my mental health. It’s incredible
What because you have been doing steroids all your life ppppffffff
I was diagnosed with hypergonadism and prescribed TRT and so glad I went to the doctors and found out and now have a solution.. 😊 I’m 51 and feel much happier.. Pete 👍🚴🏻
Really important topic Mark and well said. As someone of the same age I’m in the “hesitating” camp because of how it could be perceived, including by the mrs. As the dad of a 15 year old son I’m even more concerned about what he sees on SM. He’s just getting into the gym, which is great, but I’m quite worried about where that might go if he sees too many of these absolute fools on SM taking test in the their teens/20s for no good reason at all. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Aging is real, but natural. I think by refusing to age we Set a wird example for our kids and that the world we live in, because you people refuse to grow up. Why? Because they aren't needed as adults.
Spot on - 15 years of undiagnosed PTSD and depression, years 14 & 15 daily suicidal thoughts that felt like relief and piece, finally ask for help, include my wife instead of “I’m br OK en and fine.”, TRT and I can talk about trauma, understand breathing space and an able to move on. All from a guy known for smiling. Ex-marine Reserve. International rugby player. Able and capable individual.
Thanks Mark.
From a 51 year old, 112kg, compulsive eater. (Rings many bells?)Also called Mark!
I have friends who started TRT in their 40s. It has made them happier, motivates them to make healthier decisions about food, motivates them to get out of bed and ‘get after it’ in their words, it’s made them better Dads, a better husbands and better role model for their kids. It has its place and if prescribed or advised, I am all for it. And if it provided you with some aesthetic advantages coupled with hard and consistent work, then so be it.
Very well said
@@mrsoft7022 maybe? Seems too personal a question to ask them.
I’m in my late 40’s and like others who’ve commented here I spent nearly 2yrs suffering with depression and poor mental health. I did everything I could to address it; nutrition, sleep, exercise, meditation, counseling and numerous antidepressants (some of which made me feel worse). Finally took the plunge and had several blood tests done. Turns out I had very low levels of luteinizing hormone (LH) which resulted in Low Testosterone. After a week or so with hCG injections the results were remarkable. It’s fair to say that along with the support of my wife and friends it saved my life. Don’t be afraid to share your problems and seek help.
Great little Brass Eye starter there, that didn’t go unnoticed! 😂
@@TeaAndTunes 😂
Hi Mark, I’m very much in the care a lot category but that due to being in a similar position to yourself (that is, on medically prescribed TRT and also enjoy the odd fun run). Now I’m not quick enough to worry about getting on a podium, I may make it into the top 10 at my local parkrun but it depends on the day.
My running performance in fact has gone down since I started therapy, as I’ve gained some muscle and am therefore heavier so a little slower but that’s ok. My mental, physical and sexual health are now much better (not perfect but on the right path). It’s changed my life for the better, but please people get a proper doctor from a proper clinic and do everything you can to improve things without taking medication before you start a LIFTIME Medication.
0:16 this is me on the first morning of any holiday to Europe, leaving the breakfast room halfway through a cup of coffee and praying the lift is empty
In my late fifties, got tested a year ago. I scored low but not super low. My doctor gave a list of symptoms that I should look for in myself if I want to get checked again. I train decently hard but I can't help to think that I could train harder if I was taking TRT. Not ready to start yet but keeping an open mind as I get older. Thanks for the video Mark
What were those symptoms your doc gave you?
@@ArmendKrasniqi excessive tiredness, feelings of depression, weakness. It was a couple of years ago now. If I come back with those symptoms he would move my request along because in Canada a specialist has to look at you as well.
I am in the I care a lot camp. I used to be a competitive archer. I had to stop because I had to make a choice between having a treatment for cluster headache migraines or competting. The only treatment that does anything is a banned substance. With it I can function. Without it I could spend months in agonizing pain. Not easy to compete when your migraine is so bad that you loose your vision and collapse to the ground. But one of the side effects of my meds is that it reduces involontary tremor, and that is a huge advantage in my sport. So I stopped practicing. I teached for a while but competition at reasonably high level was what was driving me. Performance are definitivly enhanced to a very signifi ant level by drugs. And competing using those drugs is not only against the rules of the sports, it is very unfair to people who strugle without the substances. I don't want to win against a kid who trained hard taking advantage of my disability medication side effects. And participaying in lower level non testing competitions is just cheating as well.
And same goes with TRT. There is no denying it helps a lot people who need it. But there is no denying it boosts performances.
It is very good that you discuss mental health..and talking to partners , the doctor etc
I watched your discussion with Sir Steve Redgrave, and after a conversation with my wife, decided to get my testosterone levels checked. This was not about appearance or performance, but about my mental health (lethargy and mood swings). I was impressed with the process, which was very thorough, with two blood tests and a 30 minute appointment with a doctor, before any medication was prescribed. My results were very low and I am now on TRT. If there are performance gains, I am yet to see them. Physically I still look like a 52 year old man who has only taken an interest in fitness over the past year. Mentally, I still have bad days, but I would say that these are nowhere near as bad as they have been and are now significantly outnumbered by the good ones.
I had never considered that me taking a medication to move myself into the normal range would be considered cheating, but if it bothers someone that the old bloke jogging around a course and finishing in an average time is a cheat, then it probably says more about them than me, I think.
"Mum, stop messaging me" 😂😂😂
Another great video Mark, I love that you’re openly discussing this topic. I’m also on TRT due to clinical need (5 & 6 total T) and I believe this is a topic people need to understand. It’s not cheating, it’s like someone needing glasses if they have poor eyesight! We need to de-stigmatise TRT so that men will be more inclined to seek the help they need.
Best mind set is to compete against yourself. Testing easy to beat. So many people do insulin and growth hormone and the like which are expensive and hard to test let alone regular testing throughout the year , so many people do gear most year round then stop a few moths before competition.
I'm more worried about influencer culture more than anything, which includes test/hgh. I've watched a handful of people in my gym jump on this 'Dubai Deano' train, and I just feel sorry for them more than anything.
Love these videos mate - you motivated me to start my own channel a few years ago and I look forward to your every video. Keep doing what you're doing and spreading good information, and a bit of humour ;)
Hi mark,
After watching your channel for some time, I’ve taken the plunge and have been tested for testosterone at the lower end of the scale.
My Docs have been happy to throw pills at me for years for how I am and how I feel.
I’ve stopped the pills and begun my journey on TRT, and I think you speaking out on your experience is brilliant.
Regards
Mark
I’m always impressed how you get an extra syllable out of the worth athlete 😂
I watched your videos on TRT and they struck a cord with me about my mental health and issues I was having. I took a test and my levels were through the floor and started my TRT journey two months ago. I already feel better about myself but it is only part of the process I am on.
I won’t lie though my training has improved too but to me that’s a side benefit. Thank you for your open and honest information and opinions. The humour helps too.
loving the day today reference :) Great episode, thank you!
I thought as long as one person gets it that will do 😂
Good information about some events not allowing people on TRT (despite the medical need) to participate. It's something I'd not considered. There does seem to be a dearth of support and understanding both from healthcare in the UK and society. Hopefully this is something that will change, despite social media trying to ruin the reputation of hormone replacement (present company excluded).
This video was great! I’ve had concerns for the first part of this year as I’ve started to look after my health, nutrition and regular gym but I’ve just ordered a test to see if that’s a contributing factor!
Measured, humorous and informative as ever Mark. Thanks 🙂
What a brilliant video. There is so little information around on the effects of low testosterone in men and the reasons to get it checked. Your video with Sir Steve Redgrave along with your other videos on this have encouraged me to get mine checked. Thank you for making these types of videos.
Absolutely great way to put this “self harm”, never heard it put like this but it’s spot on!
Yep. Self harm that does great on Instagram, it’s a funny old world !
I never heard of Hyrox until these videos. Then looked for one in Canada. Didn’t find one. A year after I saw some pop up.
I’m fairly confident that the videos that Mark did on Hyrox helped the sports popularity.
Loved this video, so motivational!
Currently training for glasgow half marathon, aiming for sub 2 hrs for the first time 🤞🤞
Keep up the great work Mark, we both know it helps but you put in the work. 39 year old on it for a year. If I don't workout or diet it doesn't do much. I was in best shape before TRT and tanked my T cus I over trained.
Just had mine tested and thankfully I'm good. Now, back to the treadmill.
Hopefully your doctor tested all the top 12 hormones??? If not, you might not be as good as you could be. Hopefully he did a muscle tissue sample (biopsy), bone marrow sample,.... Vitamin and Mineral testing for deficiencies (these issues generally don't show up in the serum / blood test)
@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica You serious?
@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica are you sure you visited your GP, not your local abattoir?
@@anonb315 YES. Fast simple easy. And most of all, then you know your health status. Of course, all depends on your level of detail. For example, I have a 71' SS Chevelle, 454, blower, nos kit,.... every 6 months, pull out the motor, tear down, rebuild,... Once you investigate all of your baseline values, then you have something to work with in the future. Too many people wait to come see me once they have late stage cancer. Too many guys wait to come see me when their thyroid or test level are low. If they would have made regular visits, many things could have been done to prevent the issues. To each their own. Their body, their choice. I have bodybuilders and powerlifters patients that see me once a month for blood work. How much do you love your body and how much do you want to invest to take care of it?
@@olommentes 🤣😂😂😂🤣. Everyone has two choices. Learn the details of their health status or live in ignorance of their real health. Another example, full body MRI. In the USA it is expensive, here in Colombia, it is very reasonable for my patients to get a full body scan every two years. I can look for tumors, visceral fat, bone density,...... For females with implants, it can be very beneficial.
If your gonna be a CZcamsr you need to accept that there are plenty of losers being a screen commenting nasty stuff just for the sake of it! Honesty is the best source of information, that is why I am watching this video so I can make that call if I wanna be on trt or not
Does Hyrox allow substances on the WADA-banned list if accidentally consumed in China?
The intro has Brass Eye vibes 😂😂
Thanks 🙏 😂
@@MarkLewisfitness the horrors of cake!
I like how you share your experience, I had been sick recently and after recovering I went to the doctor and she suggested getting my bloods checked again (last checked a year ago), I asked if they could check testosterone (thinking it could be the reason behind mood swings). Turns out it is relatively high for my age, maybe I’m just a grumpy old prick.
What bothers me is all the CZcamsrs who insist on getting their test levels checked when there's literally nothing wrong. It's like going to get an MRI for views. The latest one to piss me off is Goal Guys. "I want to lose 10lbs, maybe I better check my testosterone levels." And then the comments are full of idiot kids saying his numbers are low.
Then there's the Huberman crowd that insists they need to follow an 80 step routine every morning or their testosterone will plummet. Annoys me to no end when I see a fit CZcamsr make a video of them waking up at dawn to go stare at the sun for 20 minutes so they get that .03 boost to their test levels.
Care a lot. I use the same clinic as you Mark to get to a normal range. The 40 plus men that could benefit from this and improve their lives is significant. For amateur sport there are many ways people have advantages over others, more money, more time, better genetics. I would say Hyrox may be better expanding the policy. If you wish to appear in official leagues/results you need to submit a sample. For those on the podium it would be worth it, for everyone else they can just enjoy their own performance.
Good content. The haters won’t understand the medical need especially for mental health issues. Proper, not misused or abused, brings levels into a stronger normal range.
Your commentary is SOOOOO well balanced! Your opinion and attitude are incredibly courageous. You should be President of a Country. I would 100% vote for you.
Please keep it up.💪💪
Absolutely fine for someone with abnormally low levels to take TRT to bring it up to normal levels. That's just medical.
I judge the hell out of guys who already have healthy levels but take it to get huge or to eek out a couple percentage points of performance.
Although it's more like pity that they're so easily influenced. And by some of the worst people too.
Quality video as always. And your comments about young people are spot on. I think a large focus has been on how young girls see women portrayed on social media, but this stance for boys is equally profound IMO
Even though you are not a highly educated medical "expert", you speak words of wisdom 👍.
A Big Thanks from me. I tested due to some of your previous videos.( Sir Steve Redgrave ) I thought I was loosing my memory as my brain fog was so strong. 1 month in to my first prescription I'm already feeling 100% better and actually sleeping considerably finer too.
Don´t care. However.. Rules in sport or events are there to be followed and even if you are competing for last place you should respect the anti doping or whatever rules there are. You do you and if TRT if the thing you need to feel good then it´s the way to go but the tradeoff may be that you can not participate in certain events or sports. Thanks for the videos!
Looking into TRT myself. More due to brain fog, irritability and my short term memory getting quite bad. I got my first blood test and it was very close to the low threshold. I'm getting the second test the middle of next month. So see what comes out of that I guess.
@@mrsoft7022 aawwww look at the big boy trying to dish out insults anonymously on CZcams. Wise up ya melt. 😂
Mark your sense of humour always brightens my day, the facts are the cherry on the cake.
Nice one 👍
My TRT is borderline but I don't like the idea of being stuck to a syringe for the rest of my life. If things get worse, I'll consider it though. Would look for any means to fix naturally first though of course
Good video. I wasn’t aware of the benefits for male mental health with TRT.
It’s game changing if you have a genuinely low-level in the first place
@@RE71476AD yep. I spent 2 years ticking all the boxes and got nowhere 😢
What you said @ 11.44 feels like me but I need to research more worried about the dependency
I'm 55 years old and have often wondered if its worth getting my TRT levels checked. I exercise a lot, and just want to be able to keep doing so for as long as possible (ideally until I hit 100 years, then I might take a break!) what are the long term effects of taking TRT? do the benefits outweigh the disadvantages for someone of a 'seasoned' age like me? A lot to learn - I didnt even know you could be given TRT by your GP - thank you for these and the other video's on the topic, never too old to learn!
Hey Mark, I always enjoy your content but this video triggered me a little bit. For a while, I have been thinking of doing TRT. I was tested last year and I am in the 400 range which I think is not a bad number. The only reason I thought of doing it it's because I want to look more muscular. I have been very consistent in gym life for more than 5 years, but I think I started my gym journey too late (29 years old). I had someone at my current gym that was the perfect muscular guy and he pushed me to do TRT. Fast forward to now, I didn't do it because I don't want to be dependent of something for the rest of my life. At the same time, I am with depression meds and I've tried stopping twice and it didn't go well.
Anyway, just thought of sharing my story. I am a gay man and I am surrounded by social media that shows muscular guys and it seems that if I don't look like that I will never be able to find a partner and build a family.
Thank you for your words!
Doing TRT just for the visual aesthetics is a terrible idea. You are right to avoid it.
Be honest Mark, were you on TRT when you took the coveted duck pond podium? If so, the duck pond people might want a word with you….😂😂😂😂. Solid perspective and input on an over saturated and misunderstood topic. Well done.
I think I was 😂 I think that was about 3 months after I started??? So it worked quick 😂
My story is very similar to yours--I used to be over 300 pounds and over 10 years, got down to 170 (I'm 5'8"). At the end of my weight loss, I felt worse mentally than I ever had (my wife was actually the one to make me recognize how "off" I was behaving--depressed, angry, unmotivated, etc). I got tested and was diagnosed as hypogonadal and was prescribed test. It has been absolutely life-changing for me. My concern is the normalization of anabolics across the whole population. We've all seen the number of Jack3d teens in the gym multiply every few months and I'd bet a LOT of them are on gear. I'm completely open when people ask me about my workout routine, etc... but I'm worried this open-ness across the fitness world has changed the expectations for what is achievable naturally and that TRT has opened the door much wider to what is seen as "normal" behavior. "Everyone is on TRT, so what's the problem with one "small" cycle?".
Actually, there is NO problem with a properly designed and monitored “small cycle”. The problem is the lack of knowledge how to do a proper cycle, what exactly to use (and more importantly NOT to use) and how much, and how to get off the cycle. So the actual problem is stigmatisation, crappy underground ‘roids, and no coaching / heath monitoring by a professional specialized in steroid use. I’m strongly in favor of the right of people to do with their body what they wish to do. But there must be proper guidance and harm reduction. Its exacly the same with plastic surgery. You wouldnt go to a underground “surgeon” who has no clue what he is doing to fix your nose - would you? Same with steroid use. Properly done, with a specific goal in mind (say, gaining 8kg of muscle for example) the risk is almost nonexistent.
You participating in competitions excluding yourself from the podium is very courageous. I could'nt do it. I just quitted competition myself. It is gut wrenching to participate in an event and being excluded from the party/celebration.
I hate parties 😂
I'm 42. T was in the 300s, in very good shape overall, previously competed in natural bodybuilding. Energy, focus, libido all had been trash for a few years. Now on 140mg T/week and life is dramatically better, T levels in the 800s. I did notice an uptick in performance and lean mass, but these were not important or goals for me, TRT was a means to reclaim the vitality in my life.
From what age did you start using it pal? The mood element of it is something all men would benefit from, im 41 and am definitely open to it down the line...
47 ish
Bravo for calling this out and giving all the context, including you participating in Hyrox while uncategorised.
TRT provides a constant dose of testosterone, without the natural peaks and troughs associated with sleep, stress, eating, etc. Therefore, even if someone on TRT is claiming to be effectively natural, they're experiencing benefits that are unattainable to those not on TRT.
Btw You are part of what motivated me to start running. 2 years aggo I was 100kg and could barely walk 1km. Today I run a 4K up and down mountains every single day. I am still 100kg though =)
I'm on it for medical reasons and need it.. I'd rather be natural though if I could be, so many sides.. It's also very expensive!
I agree!
Me too, I need it due to chemo. Bloody expensive and a pain to travel!
I think there is a value in having a category for enhanced athletes, in the same way F1 has a trickle down effect to consumer vehicles. Imagine what things could be found from experimenting for performance. Aslong as its not hidden, then crack on.
@@jimhuf8102 which in a way, there really is because a huge number of elite athletes and their coaches are doing stuff and just going under detected.
@@MarkLewisfitness The Enhanced games are set to run in 2025, will be interesting to see how they compare
With that walk and being next to a school field, yes were worried lol
Thanks again Mark you always nail it when it comes to a balanced content information video
Agree with everything you've said 100% Very well put.
Thanks!🙏
a very good video
I'd disagree on people taking too much just because of looking good, a lot of people report feeling very good on it with very fast progress, which I guess is where the spiral begins when they hit their new limit.
Personally, I don't care all that much as long as people are informed about both TRT itself, and the influencers taking it, and how their example / advice is affected by the high testosterone levels.
We need a Juicers class. Like competing with fellow TRT users.
Useful video. How is it possible to discern a reputable clinic in the uk that’s reasonably affordable, amongst all the other offerings that any internet research throws up? The number of options is mind boggling and for the most part appears either super expensive or targeted at the gym-bro audience?
I did a test. I'm 46 years old and my reading is 11 nmol/L. I'm told this isn't low enough for TRT. I qualifed for the Hyrox worlds this years, and did a triple ironman so I'm doing ok, but I get brain fog, tired etc. But I have put this down to not enough food for the level of training. With my Maintanance cals being 2379, I have put this up to 2400-2500 as I train 6 days a week ( was on 4000 when training for the Triple!) . Along with lots of dog walking etc. I am 67kg 5'7 bloke. If you take drugs and compete, then your a cheat period. It annoys me I don't look a certain way, but I'm not going down to 2000cals for a six pack, performance over aesthetics. Lucky I 'm good looking ;-)
i think if you compete it feels like cheating although i know lots of people do it.
is it for health mental or otherwise i am good with it.
if you use it to perform better but not compete i am also good with it
Great video as always Mark!
I don't think I'll ever get bored of that race walking clip lol
For giggles I checked to see if I had any of the signs of low T. I have not a one. If I needed it, I would use it.
Thank you! Great video
I'm 50+ so we didn't have test etc everywhere like they do today when we were all in our 20's. You hear about young men taking test to try and look good on their holidays to Ibiza which I think is super sad. No ones allowed to be average and normal anymore. And if they are, they think there's something wrong with them, because they don't look like some insta model.
I haven't had it tested. I was wondering if it was low or I needed to get stronger. I have been working out since May of 2020. I did take testosterone enhancing supplements, but not steroids. I took Testrx. Not currently taking it. I am currently taking ashwagandha. I take creatine and other supplements that I think are beneficial to my health. I'm working on losing weight now after eating as much as I wanted since May of 2020 when I started weight lifting. I did a short diet during that time when I worked with a trainer. It was at least three months. I don’t remember the exact time frame. I think my results are good. I am not very strong according to online strength standards which is why I was wondering if it was low. I am happy with the way I look. I just need to lose enough body fat. I want an athletic look and think I currently have enough muscle to get that look after losing enough body fat. I am age 43. I think age would be relevant. I am stronger than the average person, but not the average person in the gym.
I’m 50 have family and friends using it. Some for working out some just had no energy. It is the new designer drug of late. I may go see a DR. I feel weird asking due to the popularity of it
Phew! Checked and Viagra not on the WADA list. Over 40s can still do mixed doubles....
Watching the Olympic racewalking and it reminded me of you😂
A lot of men are now prescribed TRT and never discover the true root of why their testosterone was low. This inevitably results in early morbidity and we will see an epidemic caused by ignored disease and/or deficiency in the next couple of decades
Excellent as always brother ✊🏾👌🏾👊🏾
For some reason everyone on the internets forgot that TRT treats low testosterone for the purposes of restoring it to normal levels, not just taking non-needed medication to get jacked out of your mind (also a lot of people that are jacked out of their mind are not just on Testosterone, but other even more potent drugs). My personal belief is that a lot of people have no idea how powerful testosterone is and how many processes it regulates, given that you have a "healthy" and somewhat "normal" body you would not want to have to think about the downstream side effects of an injection you take twice a week, especially if it is just in the name of looking good.
I started TRT 12 months ago, and it's been transformative for the mental health problems I've struggled with for over 20 years. Frankly, I put off starting TRT for at least 2 years because any time I did any research into it, all I saw was people who worship the J*rdan P*tersons and Andr*w T*tes of this world - people I have zero in common with or respect for - claiming it was a silver bullet that any man simply HAD to have.
And it was only when I saw your videos - an ordinary bloke who was clearly not caught up in that bullshit version of modern masculinity pushed by shills like those mentioned above - that I felt ok about talking to my doctor and asking for help.
Thanks for this. I think I'm in the same boat as you pre-trt. Fit, early 40s and I'm looking for effective treatments to mental health.
But as an "athlete", I'm worried about the stigma of even bringing it up with my doctor or family and feel like i need some initial research on if it's an avenue i want to explore.
Any advice on how to wade through the bs? I'm even scared of doing the initial self research for fear of the impact on "the algorithm"
I’m 19 and already on trt for medical and it’s good to see other people talking about it and hearing more about competing with it
Great video Mark. Solid viewpoint. 👌🏼
I am wondering if it is like HRT, which I take because my hormones are low, but they dont give you massive amounts, just enough to get you to the low end of the scale. I had more hormones in my contraceptive pill 15 years ago. So my take on guys taking TRT because they test under the low range is that it probably only takes them to within the low range or mid range, whereas your guy bro's are putting TRT on top of probably mid to high range so getting the boost out of it. taking hormones to feel 'normal' is massively different IMO.