Roadside Discovery of Naked Man Leads to Convoluted Mystery | Noah Presgrove Case Analysis
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So called friends wiping their phones clean just screams innocence, right?!
They are innocent until proven guilty.
@@LukeSumIpsePatremTe I didn’t say anyone was guilty, nor did anyone else
I think he was in the back of a truck and feel out anf got run over, people panicked and fleed. They migh have even been recording the shenanigans.
@@LukeSumIpsePatremTe Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, not in the public's eyes.
@@Noodlepunk You're not making any sense. How is that possible? There was no blood trail or evidence of a hit and run that was ruled out no glass, no debris nothing. Stop being so clueless in my opinion. This was no accident this was murder.
With friends like these, who needs enemies.
Noah’s family must be suffering- not only did they lose Noah, but not knowing how he died is horrible. It’s devastating and sad.
Jesus knows what you are saying. He understands perfectly. I am drunk AND stoned right now, I don't plan on switching hirses mid-streamed. No Sir. 🎉
We know he was murdered by someone at the house
@@michaelleigh859I would be looking carefully at who's shorts those were. As if that person took them back. I think it has something to do with that birthday girl. She was very pretty probably loved attention and maybe flirted around and the dudes there just went wild. So so sad.
@@charliechurch5004that’s true I didn’t even think of that
@@charliechurch5004 Hard to say without evidence. For all we know it was a random attack (crime of opportunity). Have seen it happen before and we can't really assume anyone's guilt without evidence.
It is interesting to note that the only member of the party to attend Noah's funeral was the best friend. No one has reached out to console the victim's family
They’re hiding but they can’t do it forever
Just demonic
Absolutely sickening!!! Very tragic. I feel for his family…. How horrible.
And he was supposedly a good looking, popular kid. Only ONE person from the house party he died at showed up? That is just so fishy to me.
What a lovely bunch of ‘humans.’
Won’t they make great parents one day?
I have a similar story with a different outcome. When my brother was 19 he went to a party with a bunch of people. I got a call at work from the police. My brother had been dropped off at the hospital with severe injuries. The police said whoever dropped him off didn't even stop, they just slowed down and rolled them out of the car. My brother was in a coma for 2 months with severe brain injuries. His "friends" said he fell out of the back of a truck while they were joy riding and that they didn't stop because the driver was drunk and didn't want to get in trouble. The dr said it looked like mu brother had gotten beaten, because if he fell out of a truck his hands would have been injuries. My brother was a loud mouth drunk and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a fight. He sustained severe brain damage and had part of his skull removed. He will never be the same.
No matter how aggravating someone drunk is, people need to understand that humans are fragile and hitting someone in the head has consequences.
Oh my god that sounds horrible, my condolences. I hope your brother continues to improve. 😢
I’m so sorry
So sorry to hear ❤
Those “friends” of his should have been arrested. So awful. Cowards.
not too mention alcohol makes people more vulnerable. They may not feel the pain as much at the time due to the intoxication, which masks how severe the injuries can be in the long run. I
Sounds like "friends" are lying.
His clothing probably had blood and attackers DNA...they destroyed his clothes.
He was barely wearing clothes in the video. Most scenes show him shirtless.
Sounds like murder.
Or at the very least involuntary manslaughter, RIP Noah...
Alcohol never saved anyone’s life and has caused many heartaches for what ultimate end when all is said and done. What a terrible loss for the family and those that truly cared about this young man. 😞
Lol it's not just the alcohol! Mature adults handle it.. most of us anyway... its a toxin but a 40 year old woman being drunk and being able to handle a whole bottle of spirits vs a 17 year old boy full of testosterone, or even a teenage girl with zero tolerance is a TOTALLY different story. As a teenager I remember 4 people going haywire with a bottle of rum vs as an adult, at most we raise our voices at eachother but it takes a lot of booze to get to that stage. What I'm saying is that teenagers cannot handle booze and lots of stimulation etc, mostly cause of sexual competition between people and they can't handle emotions. Being a teenager or early 20s is already difficult.. but a teenager drunk is the worst... and they were obviously trashy people.
What parent allows their kid to have a 4 day drug and sex fuelled party?? Yuck.
Ken, that old devil alcohol is never given credit for the damage it does. I don't
begrudge the extended partying, but it came at a high cost. Noah, drunk out-of-
his-mind, streaking down the highway, got clobbered by a truck ending up in
pieces. His friend Jack gets it right.
@@DavidBaker-cx1ni For some reason, I think after the ATV accident, his friends had to clean him off, maybe he was hurt? That's how he lost his clothes!
A couple people didn't go to the World Trade Center the day they were hit because of hangovers. I guess alcohol saved them technically?
@@MrSeanman30That’s a one out of a million scenario. Alcohol causes far more problems than it doesn’t. This is coming from someone who’s almost 3 years sober that used to defend it heavily and brag about drinking anyone under the table. The shit is no joke. Especially when younger kids are getting involved with it unfortunately. Many tragedies you hear about could’ve/can be avoided had it not been for alcohol.
5:50 "In order to explain why Noah was not wearing any clothing, the partygoers said they gave him a shower." In what world, is that an explanation? What a bunch of weirdos.
Exactly! How weird!
Trying to sober him up or Wake him up. Idk 🤷♂️
They said he was really dirty after flipping the side car (or quad runner)
Yep. Saying that they removed his clothing made them look suspicious, making up the shower story to conceal what actually happened. Otherwise, his being found naked would have been just as much a mystery to them as to anyone else. It's not likely that he left the house naked carrying his shorts. It is likely that he did not leave the house alive.
I think they were possibly removing their DNA from his body. Everyone who was in that house at any time over those 4 days is a suspect.
How could Noah receive these injuries that caused his demise but have no serious injuries to his arms and legs? It sounds like he was murdered and moved to the road location.
@@sandydee8003 Dear God praying hard for family.
Sounds like he got beat up by a bunch of guys, and they got him on the ground and kicked him. All those injuries happen from that kind of thing. And regardless of how it looks in the movies, people usually die from that.
Maybe someone was holding his arms or maybe he was knocked out and the attacker continued to strike him 😞
I seems like he was dragged from a moving vehicle with his fingers shredded like that 😢
Could be true.@@charliechurch5004
Here's what I've learned from Dr. Grande and other True Crime broadcasts: Don't be the class clown, don't be the one who "lights up a room", avoid being "everybody's friend ", and above all don't be the person "who would give you the shirt off his back."
These are the people who end up as subjects in Dr. Grande's videos.
Jealousy and envy run rampant. My entire family acts humble and almost stupid so people will leave us alone. They don’t know our true successes. ✨
@@BrooklynBaby100 does that mean they're not humble people? It's just an act? That sucks to learn about people later on lol that they fake humility... Red flag 😯
@@rosemadder5547that’s your take away?
I’m safe 😢
Don’t let other people shut you down like that. You’re letting the predators that walked this world win by doing that.
Every single time I've been naked in public or in situations where it wasnt appropriate to be, alcohol was involved. Just saying... it's one of MANY reasons I don't drink alcohol to excess anymore.
there must be about 200 other reasons. just saying.
This is why I quit drinking tequila.
How fing embarrassing.
Dr. Grande, I agree with your assessment that Noah was murdered. I mean, why were none of his belongings (phone, wallet, clothes) found? Something's fishy there. Something happened at that house, and the kids aren't talking. But they will. Sooner or later, one of them will crack. Sad story, though.
Phone was at the party still
Just sad.
I agree. Plus, 2 of the phones from the party (probably 2 guys) dumped his body on the road side and went back to the party as the phones location and movement describes. I think those 2 people will be key.
@25Soupy I wish there had been more details on those two people, but I guess we will have to wait for an update someday.
I agree it's all bizarre.
He was a handsome young man, I can imagine that it may have been the result of someone's jealousy of Noah as a possible cause. Poor thing, and his poor family, so sad.
Sorry men even young men don't operate for the most part out of being jealous of other men.
i thought the same thing , being handsome or good looking triggers all kinds of craziness in people , these monsters were not his friends .
@@chetyoubetya8565 Other men used to often pick fights with me in bars and clubs because their girlfriend/date would start staring at me. It actually happens a lot when you're attractive.
Except if they are competing for a girl? @@chetyoubetya8565
@@chetyoubetya8565 many men have been beaten for being attractive.
I’ve been following this case for a few months now and watch everything that pertains to it. A friend of Noah’s on another CZcams channel reported going to the scene shortly after Noah’s BF Jack announced Noah was dead. This was about 5:15am, before any truck drivers reported Noah’s body on the road. This friend says Noah WAS NOT nude when he viewed him. He says with 100% clarity that Noah had on black shorts. Who removed those shorts and why? Noah was beat in a horrible senseless way. One or more friends caused his death. Party goers phones were wiped clean and no one is talking. Those that are talking are shunned from the rest of the group.
do you remember the channel or video title please?
@@hannahmitchell87 The channel is Partners in Crime. They’re a husband and wife team. The episode is, Noah Presgrove- episode 6. Noah’s friend, Kayden Pressy, who was at the party, gives his account of events.
@@cindyholloway7441 Brilliant! Thanks for that, I'll check it out
So the BF reported back to the group that he was dead and didn't call the police? They just left him there? Am I understanding this correctly?
@@crownlaurus2610 Kayden, who is a
friend of Noah and BF said that BF came into the party house around 5:15am saying that he found Noah and he’s dead. Claims that he died at 4:00am. Three other friend of Noah( Kayden being one ) followed Jack down to the scene. By this time there was a trucker who stopped after calling 911. Jack was supposedly the first one to find Noah. That’s the story Kayden specified. There were only three 911 calls reporting Noah in the road. None of those calls came from BF, Jack. If this is true, why didn’t Jack call 911? Noah is supposed to be his BF. Now, according to People magazine, Jack gives a whole different version of the story. If you go on People website you can read the article. The stories keep changing. Truths don’t change.
My theory: the ATV accident was worse than they said it was. He rolled the ATV and it crushed him, or someone else riding it ran him over. He was probably still alive but unconscious, and whoever was involved saw how badly injured he was and put him in their car, to take him to the hospital and he dies along the way, or they just don't want to deal with the whole ordeal in general so they strip him and throw him out of the car.
Eventually someone will crack and they'll get a warrant and find some DNA or his clothes, or fibers from his clothes in the last car he was in.
That's an interesting take.
That does not explain his shorts being removed.
I agree with that!
The ATV had no damage.
I've watched a more in depth video on this and they said his hand was torn down to the bone and earlier in the night a bunch of people wrote their names on his butt cheeks, the names were removed prior to his body being dumped on the highway. I think some of the damage may have been caused post death by being thrown from a moving vehicle on the highway (this explains the tooth and possibly the abrasions on his behind). Also the shorts were apparently folded next to his body. Its all very odd and the fact no one from the party attended his funeral either, or reached out to his family makes it obvious foul play happened.
This story captivated me here from California and it’s bothersome how people from a small town in the US can get away with this crime. I believe you Dr. grande, there will be justice eventuallly hopefully very soon. These kids know something
Elvis, please, this happened in Oklahoma, the Wild Wild West.
What I’m gonna say might sound unpleasant and a tad offensive, but at 18 you have no real friends. I’ve seen too much true crime to know this. Those people at the party KNOW what happened
Agreed. Looking back at parties when I was that age, seems after lots of alcohol there was always a fight between a group of guys.
There was a time when it wasn’t so. 40 years ago, I had a few close buds that were more like brothers. They’d go to the mat for you, and on occasion did.
Today? Yeah. From what I’ve seen the last couple of decades, you’re pretty much spot-on.
Bingo, it's ppl afraid of being offensive that cause this sort of mess!! Speak up!!! We need fathers to stand up!!! 🙏🏿
@@gregevans6044things have really gone down hill 😢
@@gregevans6044 Totally agree. I feel like male friendships 40 to 50 years ago involved getting in each others face, having a fist fight, then one guy extends a hand and helps the loser up, after which they become bonded for life. Not a guy, so I can’t speak from experience, but saw it happen during high school.
I bet he was dumped there after an altercation and they believed he was merely unconscious. Then the partygoers all covered for each other.
"they believed he was merely unconscious"....part of his skull was showing, magules.
very strange case teenagers getting drunk and fighting for 4 days what could go wrong right
Thank you so much for covering Noah's case. This case needs national attention.
I agree it's more likely homicide, I think he angered someone. It was such a sad & strange case. Great breakdown again. Thanks Dr G😊💚💛
Something like this happen to a young man when I was a teen , hurts me to this day! Hopefully they figure it out and get justice!
Hey Zena! ❤ How are you doing, and how is your mom? I hope you're both doing well. Miss you, sis. 😢 Maybe try and write to me one more time? It's 'at gee male'. 😘 We need to get on touch. Much love & prayers to you and mom. ❤😍🤟🌹⚘🌷
@@LDiamondz Hi friend! I always reply here, you don't ever seem to get😔Thx for the prayers🥰💜🙏She's hanging in there👩❤️💋👩Hope you are doing ok...glad to hear from you always sis, miss you too, hug and love🦋🌷🌵⭐️✨️💟ps I don't have your "gee male" lol
How could it NOT be a homicide? He was found dead, naked, and dumped by the highway!
@@CC-ce6ng what is your pt beyond to argue
also we need to know more about these two cell phones that headed out towards him then came back
I am from Duncan, Oklahoma. Many people still very saddened by this case. Hopeful it will be solved soon ❤ Prayers for the family. Another interesting case would be the Alan Hruby case from Duncan, Oklahoma. Great work Dr. Grande.
I agree. Also the case of Jarvis McIntire from St Louis
He's a very aggressive wannabe Podcaster who just looked into this case and has accused the only party goer to come forward, and Noah's own family. Probably hired by the hosts family to distract from the truth. I wouldn't waste any time.
a four day party with drinkings and 40+ attendees ranging from teenagers to 22 year olds? I feel like even at age 21 I would have known this was a horrible idea.
Guess you just never had fun growing up
@@australien6611 if this is your idea of fun then ok 👌🏾
@@grace_ajm”you ain’t never had fun unless you had 4 days straight of underage drinking that resulted in a mysterious death”
The trouble with parties like that is that everything is fine until it isn't.
@australien6611 If the only way you have fun is attending a so-called party as described here, you have very low standards for "fun." Try something else if you dare.
Dr. Grande for president! I'm not saying that he's going to run, only speculating that he should. But only time will tell whether a truly great philosopher actually does emerge from the gathering.
Unless he was Magically born in Indonesia
Dr Grande is actually a lizard person hired by xenu
Schadenfreud is not the mark of true leaders. Smelling dirty diapers and rotting food doesn't give them a kick. The future is written by those envisioning and working to realize something better "for" and "in" everyone...not resting on wilting laurels imagining how good we have it now because someone else doesn't. Lift all boats my friend, otherwise it's crabs in a bucket.
Schadenfreud is not the mark of true leaders. Smelling dirty diapers and rotting food doesn't give them a kick. The future is written by those envisioning and working to realize something better "for" and "in" everyone...not resting on wilting laurels imagining how good we have it now because someone else doesn't. Lift all boats my friend, otherwise it's crabs in a bucket.
His friend Jack did it, along with the girlfriend. Jack’s dad helped them cover it up.
Your right
Poor guy, he was murdered 😢
Lol
@@Chloe-gh5mk Agree!
His "friends"? Not so much. Sounds like murder...by his friends. Maybe not premeditated, but... My heart goes out to his loved ones.
And that girl / so called “friend”, who’s birthday it was, will forever be reminded, yearly, of Noah’s death. Happy Birthday dear.☠
If I could give this comment an award I would 🏆🏆🏆
Due to the nature of Noah's injuries to his face, cheeks, mouth and teeth, back of the head, fingers and lower extremities etc. This appears to be consistent with someone laying on his stomach on the hood of a moving vehicle and holding for dear life to the sharp edge of the hood near the windshield. Once the driver stepped on the breaks, Noah went flying backwards and due to his height, his feet would have hit the ground first and smashed the back of his head on the pavement. The other circumstances would also suggest that more than one person were likely involved or know about this case. Let's all pray someone feels the pressure and decides to turn on the others. My Sincere Condolences to the Family and Friends of Noah and May God Bless Them All!
Wow…that makes sense. They were driving a side by side at the party that got flipped over. Maybe that has something to do with it 🤔
There are many moving parts and none can be ignored, as every little detail may play a part and culminate into something bigger via a domino effect.
WHAT A SHAME, I HOPE THIS CASE IS SOLVED!! RIP SWEET BOY 🩵🙏🏻🩵
@@stephaneslec2171 I disagree. I don't think it was a moving vehicle. Where is the blood trail? I think everything happened at the house, and then they placed his body on the side of the road to make it look like a hit and run.
His family said Noah's fingers were NOT shredded. Given his massive skull injuries, I think he was attacked by at least 2 people and someone used an object like a baseball bat or golf club as part of the beating.
not much point in speculating in this case, in my opinion. I think it's plainly obvious that the police will solve this with whatever phone data they're able to collect. given the little information that we do know, and because the investigation is ongoing, I think it's only a matter of time.
Well said. However, I don't know if Grande is a former detective or criminal profiler, but I do love hearing what people in the field of crime have to say, in regards to speculating. There's a really good book called "What Cops Know" and I studied this case in regards to what that book says (it's an amazing book BTW) and it helped make sense of things.
I agree. The 2 phones that left the house moved to the location of the body and back to the house is key. It's only a matter of time.
Speculating may not give definitive answers, but it does open up possiilities that may be overlooked otherwise. Why bother speculating about anything? We speculate about things every day. For instance - "Do you think it might rain today?" " Who do you think is going to win the football on saturday?". Everything we discuss about future events is a speculation. I may not know the weatheer forecast..you might? I may know where a team sits in the league standings? You may not?. Your answer to all these things is just "I don't know, nobody knows, no point speculating, let's see what happens after the event"?? 🤷🤔
Too much alcohol can be a recipe for disaster. Know when to say when people. 😊
After 30 years I realized “when to say when” is before a single drop touches my tongue
Thank you for your detailed information about every case you discuss .you have growing followers here in Australia 👍😁
This is horrible. It is so tragic, not only for Noah but also for his family and friends who now grieve him.
Not every teen will be able to carry the heavy burden of secrets and lies such as this - inside 1 or more is already crackin up, its only time until it shows on the outside. Watch this space.
That “friends” ridiculous smile in the Snapchat..
*"FRIEND'S"
“They were all just a bunch of innocent angels” His sarcasm is always on point
He passed at the house and was moved to the highway
They may have wiped their phones clean, but can’t police subpoena phone records/text message records?😮 I am beyond sad that this family cannot get answers.
It’s still unusual to me that someone born in 2002 could be this age, even though it’s obvious mathematically that they would be. I was born in the mid 1960s, and 2002 seems like yesterday to me. My car is a 2003 car. As far as this case is concerned, I would think that he was bundled up in someone’s pickup truck and held down by a bunch of guys and then tossed out at high speed and died on the scene.
Same. He was born in 2004 actually so newer than your car. I half agree with your theory - some injuries caused by being thrown out but a lot of the injuries were beforehand because no/little blood at scene.
math
I had thought this may have happened after he and his girl got back from the ATV accident, he came out of the shower and maybe his friend who owned the ATV confronted him about what happened! Or maybe after he went off down the road in an angry fit and was confronted there! He's not as innocent as everyone seems to think if he took that vehicle without permission!
This seems to me a huge part of the answer. 6:25 I really want to hear more on whose phones left, went in the direction of the scene, then returned.
Noah was a very attractive young man.
This entire situation is very heartbreaking.
Odd party for a nurse to attend.
Concept of a “nurse” is very wide. RN? LVN-LPN? CNA? Nursing aide?
Even if RN, still young and susceptible to peer influence.
She was a drunk 22 year old cna. Not a nurse
What’s odd is that you’re not making dinner
There are some wild RNs in the world who put on a good face at work!
@@user-vm9we7fs4d you’re a funny guy! Nice joke! Really good stuff!
I kept waiting to hear about who were the two phones, or who owned the two phones, that left a party around the time Noah was killed? One would assume those would be the two main people of interest, no?
Seriously? The evidence is back at the "party house". He was killed there and dropped off by the two that left to the "area he was found".
His arms are back! 🎉
😂😂😂
It's very disturbing how he died and I hope the people who did this are brought to justice.
Also anyone that goes to a "4 day birthday party" is a drug addict and/or severely mentally deficient. I can tell you from knowing a person with a social circle like this- these kinds of incredibly immature, hedonistic people drop like flies in their 20s and 30s.
Many of the party attendees were in their late teen years to early 20s! Some people just haven't grown up that much at this age!
The nurse needs to be interviewed and get her access ment of his injuries after the roll over. The two cellphones that had geodata near where his body was left will be hard to explain away.
And, why was “nurse” at a party where underage drinking was happening?
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Damn people think shit like this only happen in the hood but situations like this can happen anywhere those so called friends he had were just snakes waiting to bite
This mystery case reminded me of the cold case of Stephen Smith's death related to one of Alex Murdaugh's sons.
Were the owners of the 2 phones that followed Noah to where his body was found, questioned?
Here to listen to his theory. His opinion
😂
“…about what could be happening in a case like this 😏” 😂
Only speculating .....
There were only 8-10 people left at the party the night Noah died. Just a small crowd of kids/young adults that knew each other pretty well.
Another point not mentioned was the distinct lack of blood around where his body was found. Many medical professionals who have commented on this case have stated that, based on injuries detailed in his autopsy, they would expect large amount of blood loss to have occurred. Where was all of the blood? If he was hit by a vehicle, would that blood not be all over the road??
Stay away from these huge, sprawling, chaotic house parties. Bad news.
I'm speculating that this should be a good video.
Sounds like that’s just your theory…an opinion? I must confess, I’m speculating the same.
I think u were wrong. This is a shit take from Dr Grande. To think someone at that party wasnt either involved or KNOW what happened is WILD!
I cannot imagine how Noah's clothes would be ripped from his body in a vehicle strike..however,the shoes stay on his feet 🤨 that one detail alone convinced me something is wrong with this scene!!
I hope his family gets answers.
Sending so much love to them,from West Virginia ❤️
When they interviewed 1 of his friends, i could tell they did it. The friend kept having strong opinions which would explain it was some kind of accident. I could tell he was lying.
It’s just crazy how many of these cases involve victims that were referred to as “class clowns”. Class clowns often evolve into douchey clowns as adults and that definitely sounds like the case here, I know it sounds bad but think about it, he was chattin’ up his BEST FRIEND’S girl, he flipped someone’s atv, got soo sloshed that he couldn’t even locate HIS own clothes or shoes, and the list goes on. This dude seemed like an insurance company’s worst nightmare and definitely not someone you’d want attending your house party, wedding, baby shower, birthday dinner/party, funeral, Bar Mitzvah, bachelor party, or ANYWHERE else alcohol would be served. In my opinion this dude tried talking to the wrong guy’s girl and uhhh…… well you know. I know what I’m saying sounds fucked up but in my opinion that is what this case sounds like to me. I don’t think anyone can say that my take on this case is not a possibility.
I was thinking the same thing. Trying to crawl in bed with the birthday girl probably caused a scene. Then the white knights to intervene and a fight ensues. Excess alcohol and testosterone can be a dangerous situation.
Unfortunately I agree
@@freestang6662yeah I think that’s what happened.
Like a "daredevil" type?
I think it was something like that too. He did get into arguments with a few different people that night. Maybe the wrong person/people got angry and took things way,way too far.
His “friends” know a lot more than we are lead to believe.
A man named Grande had a grand idea for a grandiose video graphic of a gargantuan topic
Thanks, GPT !
@@Reece-Mincher3601 You’re welcome, IPad kid!
@@jabrokneetoeknee6448 Gemini, set sarcasm to 17% and write me a sad poem about.. oranges ! 🟠
Okay.....🤓
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Sad…someone at that party knows something.
Some of the party goers phones were factory reset about 3:15 3:30 in the morning. That is about the time the one girl made the video aboutt Noah being missing. His friend Jack has a suss time-line also. Noah brought his brothers golf clubs but they have not been returned or found. Noah had two phones. Neither has been found. No wallet found. It is said his best friends father cut up Noah 's shirt and gave to his friends. Who does that without offering to the family first? Some people there came from money, Noah did not.
Am I the only one that finds these videos soo relaxing to watch before bed
"I Know What You Did Last Summer" ... 😢
Dr Grande you failed to mention that the white shorts were Neatly Folded by his body.
I think that’s an important detail
One of the truck drivers said he retrieved them from the highway so they wouldn't get run over.
@@luannacook5693 but they were Folded up
Thank you for your analysis, Dr. Grande!
Until someone comes forward, they’re all guilty in my opinion.
Especially soothing intonation today Dr.
Poor Noah...
4 day party just for turning 22? Guess some addicts will take any excuse.
It's 4 years from 1-day party for turning 18. He seems to add one day for each year...
I spent 17 years with an alcoholic. She made up special occasions to get drunk.
They aren't addicts lol they are selfish irresponsible young ppl. That's modern life for you
@@wearytraveler2164😂 these aren't alcoholics they are typical narcissist youth
I think the party hosts parents were out of town so the youngins took full advantage of the party house on a long weekend.
This one was a real twisty-turny mystery packed with interesting details, impeccably presented as always! I really needed that during initial getting-home post-commute decompression. Cheerio, doc! 🍁
This is a really sad case. I believe there was foul play. I hope more information can come about and family gets a most deserved closure.
Thank you, Dr.Grande.♥️
As usual, Dr Grande’s assessment is excellent. I enjoy how he always clears away the BS. There are far too many conspiracies surrounding this case.
It’s really sad how his family doesn’t know exactly what happened to him. Eventually the truth will come to light rip ❤
RIP Noah.❤ So sad and senseless. Such a handsome young man. Condolences to his loved ones. So heartbreaking.💔I hope his family gets answers to what actually happened to Noah. I think the party goers know what happened to Noah.
This one is too sad to handle
As usual, a wonderfully astute, intelligent, honest and NON- narcissistic ( a rare quality among humans, especially among accomplished professionals) analysis by Dr Grande!
A lot of it sounds consistent with a teenager getting in a pickup truck bed and then falling out. A friend of my brother's in high school broke both of his arms protecting his head when he fell out of a pickup truck bed. It is illegal for a minor in Louisiana to ride in a pickup truck bed, because of this problem. There is no impact from a vehicle. Think about the number of pickup trucks where this occured. Almost all males have them.
I knew a guy in high school that did something similar. He was out of his mind and wanted out of a car. He opened the back door on the interstate and jumped out. It stripped his pants off from what I remember. Shattered his teeth and had a lot of injuries. When I heard about this case I was thinking…sounds like he fell out of a moving truck or jumped out of a moving vehicle.
Too many similar types of deaths.
But then why were his shorts removed? And his phone at the house? I was thinking maybe it's possible he got accidentally hit. But his shorts were removed. This was something personal.
@@tyarnold4088 He was drunk. He may have pulled the shorts off himself. People do weird things when they are drunk. He may have jumped on the bed of a truck and the driver didn't want to give him a ride, so he swerved to throw him out. He could have gotten a ride in a bed and fell out and the driver was drunk also and didn't want problems.
@@lewisdoherty7621 he randomly pulls off his shorts before he died? Come on.
Taking all the facts you've presented leads me to this conclusion:
He was highly intoxicated. Only had shorts on, no underwear and different shoes when he left the party. Walking alone on the road someone picked him up. This person put the moves on him, or something of the like, he opened the door and fell partially out trying to escape, he was dragged along the road, whilst the driver was holding him by the shorts which came off after he completed his fall from the vehicle. The driver stopped, assessed the situation, folded the shorts, and fled. This explains all the circumstances in which he was found and the injuries.
I'm not saying this is exactly what happened, but it fits.
Explain the shoes.
Greetings! Thank you for your humor.
What an insane story. Thank you for commenting on this topic, Dr. Grande. ❤ I appreciate it.
A four day party just means everyone was impaired and no one remembered anything.
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I think he was murdered. So sad 😢
Oh shucks.. a 4 day drinking party? Sounds smart. What could go wrong!
They deleted posts? Those posts can be recovered. Did they discover if he was sexually abused? Any other DNA on his body?
He was murdered 😢
Judging by his looks he was very popular in school and had many guys that envied him for stealing all the girls.
It's ridiculous how these things work! It's like "Survival of the Fittest" or in the case, the "HOTTEST!"
I wonder is he fell of the back of the ATV at high speed? This would only involve one of the partygoers so it wouldn't require a grand conspiracy of silence. Just one person keeping his recklessness to himself.
Doesn't explain the clothing and wallet never being found...
@@birchlover3377why??? The “driver” or killer(s) in my opinion, probably thought he got evidence on them and got rid of them.
@@Lily-wk8kv Because falling off a truck sounds accidental but so many other factors in this sound like foul play. Pushed off a truck, maybe, and only after a series of other offences.
Great analysis, as always.
Why werent the partygoers' phones confiscated for evidence?
Im here to speculate 😅
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so so so sad! I hope some day the TRUTH comes out!
The earliest I’ve ever made it!!
Ditto 😊
That's amazing😮
I just missed being in the first thousand viewers (1058)🤣
I think the ATV accident was worse than the other kids said & it actually ran over his torso & head. (My mom got run over by an ATV once; she was trying to drive up a dune & it flipped over, dumped her out, ran over her (breaking a rib & a leg) & continued rolling back & forth for a bit. She had to ride the thing back to the house & then refused to go to the hospital until she took a shower. 🤦🏽♀️)
Someone else suggested that a friend tried to get him to a hospital but he died along the way; maybe they panicked & shoved him out of the car without stopping.
Maybe they had gotten the in a fight about the ATV accident, too, & Noah’s clothes had all kinds of blood & dirt so they stripped him before driving him down the highway & tossing him out. Or he was already wearing the odd outfit by that time because he couldn’t find any of his belongings.
He could’ve broken his tooth in the ATV rollover & it got jarred completely loose when he was tossed from the car. Perhaps, in the act of throwing his body out of the car, his shorts got snagged & pulled off.
I think those kids know more than they’re letting on.
How did the shorts get neatly folded at the scene where his body was found?
Evidence tampering. Local small town cops connected to the rich family hosting the “party” comes to mind…
@@KristenRowenPliske You’re clueless!
Noah was such a handsome young man. His parents must be heartbroken. sad. RIP Noah.
The girl who said Noah is missing reminded me of that 13 year old punk that killed the girl and took his pic in the police car asking if anybody had heard from him. It was a cover. Otherwise they would think he was outside or passed out somewhere or left or something.