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    The end of the world - when will it move from the realm of science fiction and become an apocalyptic reality? Nick Bostrom warns that the collapse of our civilization can happen at any time. In GREAT MINDS, he explains his reasoning behind this bleak outlook, sharing with us his vast knowledge in mathematics, physics, and superintelligence.
    Thanks to our seemingly limitless ability to invent things that benefit us, humanity lives in a high-tech advanced civilization. However, what if one of those inventions has the power to destroy humanity? What if there's no governing structure to control it? Dr. Bostrom says that humanity will cause its own demise. Our collapse could come from a future technological achievement, like advanced artificial intelligence.
    Everyday our society becomes a better place for us to live, yet because of this, we may be heading toward our own extinction. Can we prevent this? And what does this have to do with the existence of alien life forms? Do they exist? Or did they exist but drive themselves to extinction? Or maybe it’s possible we just live in a simulation? Professor Nick Bostrom takes us through all these questions of our existence and the future of humanity in his lecture series on GREAT MINDS.
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Komentáře • 117

  • @Anubis___88
    @Anubis___88 Před 9 měsíci +35

    The sound FX make it seem like I'm watching a children TV show

    • @lsb8597
      @lsb8597 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Horrible music fir how interesting he is speaking. So hard to watch…

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 Před 7 měsíci

      Get over it. Or, make better content.

    • @Anubis___88
      @Anubis___88 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@stevechance150Shhh Steve.

    • @AntiWarVet
      @AntiWarVet Před 6 měsíci

      Nick Bostrom is the Dennis Leary of Philosophie. Philip K Dick was decades ahead.

    • @gangstaboy9387
      @gangstaboy9387 Před 6 měsíci

      Lmao very true

  • @DarkSkay
    @DarkSkay Před 8 měsíci +29

    The enslaved world hypothesis: sacrificing dignity and freedom to a totalitarian world government will actually increase existential risks, not decrease them.

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 Před 7 měsíci

      Why don't you ask Bezos if you can live/hide in his underground bunker? My bet is that he says "No", or he says "You are going to be my servant and have no rights". Given that choice and the world government choice, I think the world government "might" turn out ok, whereas today, RIGHT NOW, one of Jeff Bezos's warehouse workers are peeing in a drinking bottle, because Jeff won't give them adequate bathroom breaks.

    • @vapormissile
      @vapormissile Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah. Ranch hypothesis.

  • @erickmagana353
    @erickmagana353 Před 10 měsíci +35

    Oh, I can't wait for the panopticon surveillance mono state. Such a great idea 💡 Not terrifying at all. Thanks Nick!

    • @skepticaltaco
      @skepticaltaco Před 6 měsíci +1

      survival > extinction

    • @hystericheretic7678
      @hystericheretic7678 Před 6 měsíci

      It's already happening big pimping. They are watching the whole entire world and documenting it and having an ai listen in. Everyone that has a phone they are listening in and documenting your interactions with an AI and how they can manipulate you all with that information because as we all know we are controlled by our surroundings. So if you control our surroundings you can control us. Anyway it won't get to that because the simulation will end soon. You really think the sim people would let that happen?

    • @hystericheretic7678
      @hystericheretic7678 Před 6 měsíci

      The panoptigon is your phone silly

    • @hystericheretic7678
      @hystericheretic7678 Před 6 měsíci

      You thought it ended at listening to you for advertisements? Oh silly

    • @johnheilman818
      @johnheilman818 Před 6 měsíci

      Freedom>safety.
      Safety>Free access to easy power
      Maybe if you want to know how to do things that have dual use of mass destruction, then maybe you should be required to trade it by agreeing with less freedom/privacy.

  • @punchtalestudio
    @punchtalestudio Před 8 měsíci +19

    This video is sponsored by the WEF. Thanks for watching. Please share

    • @OsvaldoBayerista
      @OsvaldoBayerista Před 8 měsíci

      And WEF is sponsored by CZcams, Coca Cola, and all the shit you use everyday. The WEF is just a think tank of capitalism, it serves to reduce taxes to the rich, same as thousands of other organizations that keep capitalism working in that way.

    • @kikiryki
      @kikiryki Před 7 měsíci

      Of course, my horse, what were you thinking

  • @issuesshop
    @issuesshop Před 10 měsíci +6

    i am extremely intrigued by this theory but at the same time i am extremely disturbed that the only way to "stabilize civilization" presented is to institute two things: global surveillance and global coordination. i am just diving into all of this, but i do recall the seattle wto "riots" (perhaps in the 90s?), which was a defining event for me as an "activist" and made me see that "globalization" is inevitably not the best route. to be continued, i am loving this journey, thank you for your insight.

  • @JamesEdwardTracy
    @JamesEdwardTracy Před 7 měsíci +5

    It's incredibly ironic that I ran across this video. I have a device that I think would control gravity in such a way that it would be the worst weapon of mass destruction. If I ever constructed it, there would have to be many safety catches in place. But what of the safety issues I can't think of?
    The really odd and funny thing is at my age now, which is 67 years old, I have for some time now hesitated in pursuing this device even though it would give us unlimited clean energy and open a doorway to the stars for travel.
    Always in the back of my mind is the thought that it could be used in a disastrous way or perhaps even through accident end us all. It could easily operate in unexpected and unintended ways, in the same way that the atomic bomb physicists were afraid the atmosphere would catch fire.
    For this reason I continue to seem to drag my feet. Although one wonders how long it'll be before someone else comes up with the same idea. This device is laughably simple in concept, but potentially could be far more dangerous than a nuclear bomb by far. It could easily be a planet killer. It could be built in someone's garage using everyday items.
    So I guess I choose not to reach into the urn for fear that I'm right, and find myself holding that black ball of death.
    At times though, I am tempted to pursue it. I would become fabulously wealthy and lauded from the tops of mountains and be awarded the greatest status of anyone who ever lived as the savior for all our problems or at least a great many of them.
    It's a good thing I'm on the introverted side.

    • @malcolmgibb7406
      @malcolmgibb7406 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Is that you on the left or the right in your profile pic?

    • @JamesEdwardTracy
      @JamesEdwardTracy Před 7 měsíci

      @@malcolmgibb7406
      I'm the guy on the left although that's a very old picture.

    • @DianaTheWarrior
      @DianaTheWarrior Před 7 měsíci +1

      If it's true what you said then I'd advise you to pursue it while you have the option to profit from it, because if the principle behind it is as laughably simple as you said (or even if it were not that simple at all), it's pretty much guaranteed to be found out by AI soon anyway.

    • @JamesEdwardTracy
      @JamesEdwardTracy Před 7 měsíci

      @@DianaTheWarrior
      If AI, then I'm not responsible is my take. I had to turn down the north Koreans a long time ago in fact. Technology is such an asymmetrical sword in this case, it truly is worrisome.

  • @StephenPhantom
    @StephenPhantom Před 7 měsíci +2

    Anarchism ( 4 mins ) is without leaders ( not without order ) what you mean to say is chaos, people often use these words as an interchangeable thing but incorrectly, and as an analysis on systems and theories that's kind of unforgivable, think Linux and the internet as it was originally conceived, as an example of a highly organised ( but decentralised ) form of government of things that aren't hierarchic in construction. That said, its a good hypothesis ( without the confusing language ) in conclusion anarchism makes the world more stable and less vulnerable. In face anarchism is very much a 'white' ball.

    • @user-rt6zc2pi6y
      @user-rt6zc2pi6y Před 3 měsíci +1

      It is in people's nature to create laws, anarchy can never exist in such a degree, and even if it does it will exhaust itself and people that will try to be agricultural again will form armys to fight the thieves etc things happened before will happen again...

  • @Cghost-fh4hf
    @Cghost-fh4hf Před 8 měsíci +6

    The treatment mr Bostrom proposes is much worse than the ailmant. It is better to have the risk of collapse than his panopticon.

    • @DarkSkay
      @DarkSkay Před 8 měsíci +2

      Unless one finds the BDSM-like fantasy of total submission exciting.
      Existential risks would increase, if transforming the world into a kind of AI-controlled pet farm or other totalitarian dystopia.

  • @charlytaylor1748
    @charlytaylor1748 Před 10 měsíci +7

    That's it. I'm off to a monastery in a secret location

  • @th3ist
    @th3ist Před 7 měsíci +2

    The start of Civilization is usually defined as the rise of agriculture and animal husbandry (not industrial farming). Bostrom seems to be defining it as modern civilization.

  • @GalacticTechTrails
    @GalacticTechTrails Před 7 měsíci +1

    How is this video not at a billion views in 1 day?

  • @lewisbowes4921
    @lewisbowes4921 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Appreciate sharing this, but I think this video serves as an example of how not to edit a talk. Extremely distracting random sound effects.

  • @govindagovindaji4662
    @govindagovindaji4662 Před 5 měsíci

    02:56 [not meant as snark]: Other than a lot of hurt people's hurt feelings, a million temporarily devastated families, some PTSD, and some outfits scrambling to replace crucial workers, I do not foresee how the loss of just 1 billion people out of 8.5 billion is civilizational collapse. We were there just a few years ago. Would we even notice it~?

  • @benlamprecht6414
    @benlamprecht6414 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks for an excellent talk

  • @th3ist
    @th3ist Před 7 měsíci +1

    If the 1 billion were from the african region, i dont think civilization would end. Bostrom has crafted a western centric hypothesis

  • @ajnicolai7002
    @ajnicolai7002 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The black ball? Was applying safety standards from traditional vaccins, on the novel mRNA injections. Standards related to the amount of e.g. DNA material, graphene, important error was excluding the lipid coating part.

  • @rozkek6697
    @rozkek6697 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Good video and informative video but the choice of music is truly awful💀

    • @WeSaveWe
      @WeSaveWe Před 9 měsíci +2

      😂 it totally cheapens it

  • @AndPennyThought
    @AndPennyThought Před 8 měsíci +4

    I definitely feel similar to some degree; but isn't this vulnerable world hypothesis logically the same as Pascal's Wager?

    • @douglashurd4356
      @douglashurd4356 Před 7 měsíci

      Then it turns out that you bet on the wrong god and the Zoroastrians were right all along.

  • @os2171
    @os2171 Před 8 měsíci +3

    So… he Bostrom didn’t mentioned AI as a black ball. But it mentioned as part of a solution to the installation of a totalitarian state. 20 yeas ago he ringed the bell on AI super intelligence… a plausible hypothesis is that he is already working for the AI. I don’t know this idea is even worse than the problem it solves

  • @jorgegomez524
    @jorgegomez524 Před 2 měsíci

    “The process of extraction balls”.. that pretty much summarizes it

  • @ktrethewey
    @ktrethewey Před 8 měsíci +6

    This is too serious for silly effects.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Před 4 měsíci

    might be ways to overcome vulnerable world? humanity develop consciousness of time to plan for future survival and progress?

  • @vulturom
    @vulturom Před 7 měsíci

    yeah i was thinking of this when i was 12yo

  • @Daniel-Six
    @Daniel-Six Před 6 měsíci

    Balls presentation!

  • @billcourtney3894
    @billcourtney3894 Před 6 měsíci

    The internal combustion engine deployed over 2 billion times caused the atmospheric CO2 to spike. Tragically, this has triggered a methane runaway. Black ball is the gasoline engine.

  • @brandoovalle5678
    @brandoovalle5678 Před 3 měsíci

    tienes razon vivimos en una simulacion y el programa sora es literal la vida real que locura tremenda ai programa sora

  • @zeroonetime
    @zeroonetime Před 8 měsíci

    Go Infinity Squared, TIMEISM = All the Scientific and philosophical hypothesis.
    T.E.N. d. uni-verse = 010 at once, Creation, Evolution to Entropy.
    Light and Dark.

  • @garrettbewsy144
    @garrettbewsy144 Před 6 měsíci

    yo mix these sound effects better. i was super into the info you were providing but legit looking this hypothesis on a different channel without the effects lol

  • @JuraKosednar
    @JuraKosednar Před 8 měsíci

    Can we map it out? I have some good ideas...

  • @calvingrondahl1011
    @calvingrondahl1011 Před 8 měsíci

    Nick Bostrom 🖖

  • @teodorkrastev
    @teodorkrastev Před 7 měsíci +1

    1. The technologies are not good or bad by themselves. The intended purpose could be good or bad but they can always be repurposed. What Bostrom effectively suggests is to stop technological progress or put a lid on the bowl on his terms and threw the key away.
    2. Even if we accept his hypothesis of white/black balls and try to prevent civilization destruction, I don't see any power now or in the near future with enough control to do that. On top of that we need to avoid the 1984 scenario, otherwise, what's the point?
    3. I'm not saying civilization Armageddon is not a real threat but addressing human rationality in order to find a solution is hopeless (pathetic even). I don't know any large-scale decision in history that have been made after rational deliberation, so that would be the first. I think the only way that we have some small chance is to go through some cataclysmic event that will change humanity's state of mind hopefully for the better.
    4. AGI may offer a radical rational power but for now that is pure speculation...

  • @quinto3969
    @quinto3969 Před 6 měsíci

    The problem is that the more white balls you do pull out, it will more anticipate the character of the black ball and hence possibly not engaged and foreseen. Because the more the white balls the more a cognitive fort you create towards the black ball??

  • @justinalexanderbrown
    @justinalexanderbrown Před 12 dny

    Beautiful a beautiful sphere🎉 holy and beautiful colours of Jesus Christ almighty salvation lord judge

  • @MoritaJunichiro
    @MoritaJunichiro Před 4 měsíci

    If you can take responsibility for the future of humanity, go for it. If you can't take responsibility for the future. . . 👻👈🏻

  • @Nia-zq5jl
    @Nia-zq5jl Před 6 měsíci

    The list is pretty weird, or at least presented in a weird way.
    Okay, so the first point is “Nuclear Weapon”. It’s supposed to exemplify something powerful and civilisation ending I presume.

  • @greggkroodsma8197
    @greggkroodsma8197 Před 3 měsíci

    Albert Einstein borrowed Leo Szilard's idea and wrote a letter to the President of the United States to maybe get funding to construct something to make ports.

  • @klatapirata
    @klatapirata Před 8 měsíci

    The Panoptikon thing would cripple our societies mentally.

  • @deepbits7312
    @deepbits7312 Před 8 měsíci

    Oh nooo and let's not play billiards anymore because there is a black ball on the table. Total surveillance would make this world worthless. I'd rather live in a dangerous but free world that will one day go boom.

  • @williamvanleuven414
    @williamvanleuven414 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Maybe it is nature itself that drew the black ball, by inventing man after 3,5 billion yrs.

  • @XOPOIIIO
    @XOPOIIIO Před 8 měsíci

    I think we should just stop technologies and gradually shift them back.

  • @punchmclightning5584
    @punchmclightning5584 Před 8 měsíci

    Why does use a urn as a metaphor of creation. That's a symbol of death.

  • @sven888
    @sven888 Před 8 měsíci +2

    As an ex apartheid abolitionist and free Mandela supporter the google algorhythm guided me to "FREE NICK BOTSTROM" but to my dismay I found out he was never even in jail to begin with.

  • @marvintalesman6306
    @marvintalesman6306 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I cant help to think that this is a high tech intellectual propaganda towards Totalitarianism.

  • @placeswelive5388
    @placeswelive5388 Před 9 měsíci +5

    What's important here is that Nick Bostrom gets paid a full salary to sit around all day and either dream stuff up or pontificate about things that are apparent to anyone with half a brain.

  • @kikiryki
    @kikiryki Před 7 měsíci

    so we need a world government or an AI system to protect us from ourselves, that's the idea

  • @ilirllukaci5345
    @ilirllukaci5345 Před 7 měsíci

    Inklings.

  • @A3Kr0n
    @A3Kr0n Před 6 měsíci

    Or, we will keep going on business as usual until all of the easy resources are gone, our global society collapses down to a few illiterate survivor groups and they are never able to do this again. Enjoy what you have today like it's temporary.

  • @kubricksghost6058
    @kubricksghost6058 Před 6 měsíci

    So basically black swan

    • @SpaldingJason
      @SpaldingJason Před 6 měsíci +1

      The key difference lies in their focus:
      Black Swan Theory is about understanding the nature and impact of unpredictable, rare events in various domains.
      Vulnerable World Hypothesis is a speculative concept that focuses on the existential risks posed by future technological developments.

  • @frankshaw4749
    @frankshaw4749 Před 7 měsíci

    I dont understand why we are discussing half the problem. There are plenty natural black balls that definitely exist ... comets, sun storms, viral evolution.

  • @jespermeisel9799
    @jespermeisel9799 Před 8 měsíci

    Comic Sans, really? :D

  • @charleswoodruff9013
    @charleswoodruff9013 Před 6 měsíci

    The background music playing while the person is talking is incredibly annoying.

  • @rogerc7960
    @rogerc7960 Před 9 měsíci

    CRISPR biowar...

  • @kirkwagner461
    @kirkwagner461 Před 6 měsíci

    There may be something out there in the dark. You can't say there isn't! Therefor the only, ONLY safe move is to not venture into the darkness.
    (Ie: stop researching, least we find a way to destroy ourselves.)
    BTW, I reject this.

  • @kolektivmozak238
    @kolektivmozak238 Před 7 měsíci

    It's difficult to fathom how anyone could advocate for such extensive preventive policing and extreme surveillance, given the clear civilizational concerns involved. The irony lies in the fact that, while advocating for a 'solution,' you're inadvertently introducing another unmentioned issue, akin to a hidden pitfall. You are pulling out another black ball buddy.

  • @EdT.-xt6yv
    @EdT.-xt6yv Před 2 měsíci

    5:10 dasBALL ,,, ANTINATALISM?

  • @pl7537
    @pl7537 Před 10 měsíci

    I have personally advocated for globalism for years, but it's something that cannot be shared without risking being considered some kind of lizard. Unfortunately humans cannot be left alone, and the AI singularity will bring an interesting situation to the table if the only way to combat it is by being united. But no, it is much better to respect "multiculturalism" etc etc (and of course, the savage capitalism, nationalisms, our jealousy and egoism) than to just fucking act as a group of people worried by a common problem. Maybe it's too late and we just deserve what is coming.

  • @hermeschbird
    @hermeschbird Před 6 měsíci

    BBB

  • @deepbits7312
    @deepbits7312 Před 8 měsíci

    It's almost as stupid idea as "if there is no human, there is no problem".

  • @lr937
    @lr937 Před 6 měsíci

    “We are still cavemen, but with bigger more destructive weapons, we haven’t made any progress “
    - Leon Trakker

  • @marcuslobstein3179
    @marcuslobstein3179 Před 7 měsíci

    dood is a hack

  • @anypercentdeathless
    @anypercentdeathless Před 7 měsíci +2

    Most tortured analogies ever.

  • @IHateThisHandleSystem
    @IHateThisHandleSystem Před 4 měsíci +1

    4:25 "Hence, we still have wars and arms races".... What a load of crap! You are implying that if we did have a strong central worldwide government that war would cease, which is absolute nonsense.

  • @tomaaron6187
    @tomaaron6187 Před 7 měsíci

    Stopped listening. Not everyone’s first language is English. Couldn’t make out some words because the bizarre sound effects.

  • @spiritualawareness7736
    @spiritualawareness7736 Před 10 měsíci

    What about a nuclear war huh that qualify as vulnerable world hypothesis?
    What about climate change?

  • @spiritualawareness7736
    @spiritualawareness7736 Před 10 měsíci

    The one thing that this man ignores is that many of the most advanced technological advances come from reversal technology from spacecrafts that have been recovered around the world