Custom Three-Phase Inverter for BLDC, PMSM and Induction Machines

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024

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  • @awaitingthetrumpetcall4529

    I read several comments and realized I'm part of the ElectrArc240 fan club that's super impressed by the depth of your knowledge!

  • @MickHealey
    @MickHealey Před rokem +17

    Wow!! Your depth of knowledge and skill set is that of someone twice your age. Assuming you are studying electronics at uni, then I think it's fair to say that the first class honours already has your name on it. Another fascinating video, thank you.

  • @u3b93
    @u3b93 Před rokem +7

    You are a very knowledgeable person, your videos contain so much information, I am amazed. I only just learned about the difference between BLDC & PMSM only a few days ago, I mean the real thing, not the superficial crap of most CZcams videos when they refer to both as only Brush less motors! Distinguishing between the Trapezoidal waveform and Pure 3 phase sinusoidal waveform to drive these motors, the sinusoidal which is 100% efficient. I guess the next step is to supply the inverter with power from the mains but going through an home-built PFC (Power Factor Correction) circuit. People would state that its "The rise of the Machines" era, but I think its "Rise of the Inverters" with EVs, AI coming afterwards!

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před rokem +1

      Woohoo go inverters, love them! Yeah I was planning a PFC video but still haven’t got round to it, will probably be a video in the direct current control series.

  • @Dragonmastur24
    @Dragonmastur24 Před 18 dny +2

    Great stuff mate !^.^!
    btw, 99.99% of the time you want an E-stop button and circuit to be a normally closed circuit. that way if any part breaks or any wire comes loose then the product stops, making it so you must fix the loop so it ACTUALLY WORKs when you do actually need it

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před 18 dny

      I know, this was the only red button I had lol. Also the inverter is so light the whole box would just slide away unless the E-stop was on top but then I can't make a lovely equipment stack

  • @biswajit681
    @biswajit681 Před rokem +10

    Please continue uploading great videos

  • @Heppetronics
    @Heppetronics Před rokem +4

    I was waiting for this one... Love it.

  • @bennetting1609
    @bennetting1609 Před rokem +3

    Love to see you back 👍, another great video!

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před rokem

      Love to see you back 👍, another great comment!

  • @biswajit681
    @biswajit681 Před rokem +3

    Wow excellent 👌👌

  • @MichaelHoyt-MulticraftTech
    @MichaelHoyt-MulticraftTech Před 2 měsíci +2

    great stuff!

  • @PaulPassarelli
    @PaulPassarelli Před rokem +6

    Your audio is noisy because your clock frequency is only 29kHz. You probably want to increase it up to 44.1kHz or 48kHz depending on your audio sampling rate.

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před rokem +1

      With better FETs I definitely plan on that

  • @4bSix86f61
    @4bSix86f61 Před měsícem +6

    "If it can drive an inductive load, it can drive a speaker"

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před měsícem +1

      Next up: driving an 18 inch subwoofer with an EV traction inverter 🤣

    • @4bSix86f61
      @4bSix86f61 Před měsícem +2

      @@electrarc240 How about that speaker from back to the future?

  • @anthonyvolkman2338
    @anthonyvolkman2338 Před měsícem

    For gate drive I would've swapped the position of the cap bank and the Fets. Having your gate drive paths being that long is not always a good idea. Swapping the caps and Fets positions would make your gate drive paths much shorter. Even with it come that way your high current tracks would still be able to be extremely short as well. There's a lot of emi going to be generated which can cause issues with your gates. You can also place decoupling on your main chip directly on the headers on the top of the board, that would work very well.

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před měsícem +2

      Oh certainly, this inverter is now more of a "what not to do" for me now. I designed it before I'd been taught any power electronics at uni so it was all just based on stuff I'd seen online or my own assumptions. Though when I was designing it aesthetics were my top priority (don't judge) and I think it looks better this way round 😅. Also if I remember correctly that heatsink hangs down the back of the board a bit so I would've needed a different one to mount it in the middle.

  • @strange67x
    @strange67x Před 28 dny

    Formula Student, ah okay sounds familiar to me 🙂 So great 🙂

  • @edic2619
    @edic2619 Před 27 dny

    Great video.

  • @retiredjan4714
    @retiredjan4714 Před 23 dny

    @20:20 To be safe use for each ouput a BZV55C16 voltage limiter ISA only D6 *or* place a high value resister parallel with the capacitor C12 and C14 (100k or so) else there is a possible voltage shift between +V and -V

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před 23 dny +1

      Yes good point I suppose my Zener clamp does nothing for the balance between V+ and V-

  • @biggityboggityboo8775
    @biggityboggityboo8775 Před 8 hodinami

    I'm curious did you actually try measuring the back EMF of the aeroplane motor? I've only had the opportunity to measure a handful of these hobby motors, and fully expected to get a trapezoidal waveform out of them, but so far they've all been sinusoidal! In fact I've never encountered a 3 phase brushless motor that has had a trapezoidal back EMF which surprised me.
    Sensorless control schemes, utilising field orientated control, are actually the pinnacle of brushless motor commutation. Allowing for a perfect alignment of the generated stator magnetic field and rotor field to create the highest torque and the highest efficiency.
    These can have issues at zero/low RPM, as there's no/very little back EMF to sense, but some schemes continuously inject high frequency signals into the stator coils, then measure the result, in order to accurately detect the rotor position.
    TIs Instaspin FOC works incredibly well at doing this. At least the older versions did so I can't imagine it's got worse.
    Positional rotor sensors can be very useful in mixed control systems. With sensored feedback being used at low RPM but then as soon as there's enough back EMF the system switches to sensorless.
    The other option being to use an open loop start up but these aren't as useful in applications that require full torque from zero RPM.
    Of course spinning a motor that has trap back EMF, with sinusoidal signals, isn't the best for efficiency. As far as I'm aware you'll lose a couple of % in such a case. However it will be quieter than driving it with trap signals.

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před 6 hodinami

      I didn't no, that is quite interesting to hear, I have an "in-runner" BLDC that even appears to have distributed windings so I presume that will have fairly sinusoidal back EMF. A video about the inductive zero-speed positioning could be quite interesting🤔.

  • @D.V.D.V
    @D.V.D.V Před rokem +1

    Awesome project to begin with! Really love the symmetry of PCB. You must have put a lot of hours into it. One question: I am also building a frequency converter and was wondering how you got that lookup table in the software with the third harmonics (the modulated wave that looks like a saddle-like shape). Did you use some kind of calculator for the lookup table?
    I would really like it to implement this in my converter. Thank you in advance!

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před rokem +1

      Thanks! I generated the saddle-like wave using a python script I made. I think I did a very over complicated method so as probably not the best to advise haha!

    • @D.V.D.V
      @D.V.D.V Před rokem

      ​@@electrarc240 Thanks for the reply. In the meantime I have also made a Python program that generates a lookup table with a third harmonic in it. Fourier comes in handy again.

  • @teddyjamilonatefreire8797

    What a nice project. I am considering about doing something like that!!

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před rokem

      Thanks! Couldn’t recommend more as a project.

    • @teddyjamilonatefreire8797
      @teddyjamilonatefreire8797 Před rokem

      Hi, Mr. I was wondering if it is possible you could share the schematics of that project. I would like to understand better and to do it by myself 🙌🏼

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před rokem

      It’s a very standard inverter, nothing special. 3x MOSFET half bridges, each FET has an optically isolated gate drive with an isolated DCDC. They’re all controlled from a microcontroller.

  • @gacherumburu9958
    @gacherumburu9958 Před měsícem

    👍👍

  • @LordPhobos6502
    @LordPhobos6502 Před 16 dny

    Question... you've used 3 half H-bridges to make a 3 phase output... could you just use 2 half H-bridges using these drivers to run a brushed DC motor?

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před 16 dny

      Yes! And only one of you don’t need to run it in reverse!

  • @NiteshBahekar
    @NiteshBahekar Před 21 dnem

    Can you also show some insights on single phase then 3 phase Solar inverter?

    • @electrarc240
      @electrarc240  Před 20 dny

      They are fairly similar to traction inverters, just less power density. I will cover traction inverters a lot more soon

  • @NoelWillis
    @NoelWillis Před měsícem

    you are a very man. Can to provide the PLC code for PLC chip you use, please?

  • @justin8894
    @justin8894 Před 5 dny

    What’s a quid?