Cold Steel 4MaxScout Test/Talk

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • / spartanjohns - Here's where you can donate to support the channel. If you want to, of course.
    As for this video:
    a short cold weather video....as always

Komentáře • 112

  • @bruc33ef
    @bruc33ef Před 2 lety +14

    Great to have you back. Your knife reviews are the most trustworthy on YT.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks, Glad you like my vids. I never "really went away" just put a bit more time between videos. Sometimes life gets in the way of hobbies.
      :)

  • @saradreaming
    @saradreaming Před 2 lety +7

    If it takes a Ridiculous knife to get you out and make you happy, make it so. Great seeing you.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      Hey Sara! Thanks! pretty much any decent blade that I can test and take out makes me happy!
      For some it's cars, for others golf....People are just built differently! :)
      Great hearing from you!

    • @angrybuck1
      @angrybuck1 Před 2 lety

      hi sara :)

  • @michaelmaccalla6701
    @michaelmaccalla6701 Před 2 lety +5

    I edc mine. It is in my opinion the best work folder I've ever found.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      Right on! if you can pocket that thing....i think it's really cool

  • @NeonElixr
    @NeonElixr Před 5 měsíci +1

    I got this knife for my own birthday present. Got it yesterday. It’s very “beefy” and sharp! I don’t plan on using as an EDC. But it’s a bad ass knife to add to my collection!!

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Nice! I hope you'll enjoy it....yeah....a bit big for edc but definitely a beast to work with. see my esee4 vs 4 maxscout test

  • @jorgefernandez6407
    @jorgefernandez6407 Před měsícem

    Probably the best large folding knife made!

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před měsícem

      Never had the espada. Can imagine that one is not too shabby. As for this one: it is amazing imo.

  • @brauss878
    @brauss878 Před 2 lety +9

    Check out Joe X torture test, it's definitely amazing what this knife can withstand. I don't think I will ever use mine as hard but I feel better justifying myself that I bought 2. :D
    Good to see you back making videos!

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +7

      I just did! That dude's got some issues to work out! :))
      I have the Voyager XL so I will have to see his videos on that one! That was also one "ridiculous blade that just works". It was because of that that I got the 4MaxScout
      A long time ago I was also lying to myself. Telling myself that I need this or that knife for this or that reason.
      But now...i found solace in just being honest: I just like to play with them :D
      Thanks!

    • @zabik99
      @zabik99 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah! It was the only folding knife that survived the whole test (trying to break it). The thing is a tank!

    • @michaeld.wilkins7124
      @michaeld.wilkins7124 Před 2 lety

      @@zabik99 he didn't finish the spartan

    • @joex
      @joex Před 2 lety +3

  • @mikeborrelli193
    @mikeborrelli193 Před 2 lety +2

    IMO, the 4Max Scout is a pocket Survival Knife.. The Voyager XL also fills this roll, and both can easily replace a fixed blade for hiking, camping, hunting, and also Military field deployments..

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah...i agree. I'd rather chop and split wood with the 4MaxScout because of how sturdy it is. The Voyager is great for clearing a path, delimbing a tree...

  • @roadking681
    @roadking681 Před 10 dny

    U did just fine taking it in and out of your pocket. Take a couple or more layers of cardboard and put the clip on it and leave it there for a weak and that clip should loosen up. I carry that knife every day with cargo pants or shorts. Thanks for sharing.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 6 dny

      I don’t really mind some of these things. Like the huge tension on the pocket clip for this one of the rough texture of the g10 for the older recon1, or the very stiff backlock on my American Lawman. I actually like them. Because it makes CS knives feel like “less of a toy”, if that makes sense? But I do mention these things because i am thinking that others might want to know and if someone would like a “fix” they read thru the comments and find sugesstions like the one you gave. Thanks!

  • @fiathedge1795
    @fiathedge1795 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I carry mine on all my hikes. Good knife

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 7 měsíci

      it definitely is! Very reliable. A bit heavy for edc, in my opinion, but if you can carry it and the weight is does not matter...it is definitely a great tool!

  • @amanitavirosa1861
    @amanitavirosa1861 Před rokem

    For 18 minutes i watched this video and I am amazed how static and yet how interesting it was. Greetings for that! Otherwise out taste for knifes seems to be the same as I also have the American Lawman and the 4-Max Scout! :)
    The American Lawman I have since 10 years at least and it has no clue of any damage with all the abuse I've put it into. Also the pivot pin is extremely strong such as the tri ad lock wich made me fall in love with it soooo much! I wanted a bigger folder for the woods so i can chop some firewood better or use it as a tool, and the 4-Max Scout was the perfect solution! I can't wait to go for my outdoor holiday and try it out!

  • @Andersbork
    @Andersbork Před 2 lety +4

    You are still the best knife reviewer on yt.
    All the best, Rob

  • @Gman1024
    @Gman1024 Před 2 lety +1

    Love that piece, so extra in the bestest of ways.
    Thanks for the upload.

    • @Gman1024
      @Gman1024 Před 2 lety +1

      Oh, to fix my clip, I took a bamboo skewer, slid it under and turned it sideways and left it there overnight.
      It loosened it up enough to fix it for me.
      I'm sure you can also sand right under where the clip sits with a fingernail file or something and bend the clip with a vice or lineman's or something, but what I did made it unnecessary.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      It's a good tip...I don't/can't carry this on an everyday basis. If I would/could I would definitely do something about the clip.
      The problem is mainly with jeans...thin outdoor pants....no problem getting it in and out of those.
      I recently used this one again doing "yardwork". I processed 3 piles of branches into smaller pieces...about 2 hours. I had my hatchet with me and said..."maybe I start off with the 4MaxScout" and ended up not using my hatchet. It was hard work but so much fun. After about an hour, with thick leather gloves...the pinky lanyard became uncomfortable...but after i finished i had no issues...no blisters. Even if the gloves were thick...i was expecting some blisters...
      And the edge...a short strop and I can feel 2 small microchips....so small that you really have to be cutting the paper super slow to notice....Overall: A fantastic tool!

    • @Gman1024
      @Gman1024 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SpartanJohns, sounds like you put it through its paces, and it's an amazing performer.
      I wear duluth carpenters and those pockets are super thicky, which is why I needed to make a change to carry it.
      I Love the pockets on those pants, cause it's like they're always keeping their mouth open for my hand to get in and out, so it's really good if you need to get money out for tolls, etc., and the 4max just disappears into the pocket and seems small.
      But the double thickness at the lip is always a clip test for anything I carry.
      Some feel like they could break if I carried all the time in them, and the knives are sized for EDC.
      Thanks for the videos you've done on this, it gives me the confidence in it, but I doubt if I have the endurance to keep up with it. 😄

  • @hawintherknives4386
    @hawintherknives4386 Před rokem +2

    I used mine to skin a deer 🦌 and it performed very well

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před rokem

      Damn! I would have imagined it to be a bit too big and heavy for that. Cool!

  • @Traderjoe
    @Traderjoe Před 2 lety +1

    Great seeing you make videos like this Denis! 👍🏻

    • @angrybuck1
      @angrybuck1 Před 2 lety

      yo joe :) long time, good to see your name dear brother ;)

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +2

      I am glad you liked it. I was not planning on making this video at all. I have been using the Air Lite for a few months now and was actually planning on that one. But the 4MaxScout is fun to play around with so I just turned the camera on...

  • @randymizers
    @randymizers Před 2 lety +1

    happy to have you back, maybe we can expect some more videos ? :D

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks. I think 1/month might be doable. More than that might be just a "happy" mistake! :D

  • @Kyle-bb9zp
    @Kyle-bb9zp Před 6 měsíci +1

    I am buying one of these this week Friday

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Hope you are enjoying it

    • @Kyle-bb9zp
      @Kyle-bb9zp Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@SpartanJohns i just got mine this Friday. Have not used it yet but I will. Yes it is big but not massively big like other cold steel folders.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I hope you manage to get some good use out of it!

  • @stephan123321
    @stephan123321 Před 2 lety

    Moin Denis,
    schön mal wieder etwas von dir zu sehen....ich hoffe es geht dir gut.
    Hat wieder mal viel Spaß gemacht dir zuzuhören....immer gut und sinnig, was du zu Messern zu sagen hast.
    Liebe Grüße,
    Stephan :-)

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Stephan! Freut mich das es unterhaltsam fuer dich war.
      Diese Leidenschaft stirbt doch nie und auch wenn bei mir nicht so oft was zu sehen ist....das Interesse an Schneidwerkzeug bleibt. So sind wir einfach geabaut! :)
      Liebe Gruesse,
      Denis

  • @K.M925
    @K.M925 Před 2 lety +1

    Very impressive !!!

  • @cafeqc3793
    @cafeqc3793 Před 2 lety +1

    I like this folding hatchet

  • @andrewfournier8817
    @andrewfournier8817 Před 2 lety

    The 4max scout **can** work in a pocket. If you're traveling, camping, fishing, etc. It's nice to have a less outwardly ostentatious knife going in and out of gas stations or shops ( Canadians the opposite is required by your laws, I think) than an Esee 6 or something

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      It can definitely work in a pocket. Just that getting it and out can be a bit difficult. However....I think the 4MaxScout is worth it. I have been doing a ton of yardwork this week and last week with it, just for fun...and I am still amazed at how well it puts it all away....I wouldn't call it a replacement for the ESEE 6 but I am sure it can do a better job than the ESEE 4. I have been thinking about that the last week.

  • @BladeWalker77
    @BladeWalker77 Před 2 lety

    Ehi how are you!. I agree with you. The only reason I can find for justify the carry of this knife instead of a fixed blade is that you can put it in your pocket. In my country, Italy, it is not unusual to meet other people doing hiking, and many people is scared of knives. But well, I know it is not a good enough reason. In fact I usually carry my Becker BK10 in the backpack and a light folder in my pocket.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      I also like to carry a bigger knife in my backpack when hiking. Carried the Esee 6 or the SRK. But sometimes a folder has its benefits

  • @the_original_dude
    @the_original_dude Před rokem +1

    I carry it in my backpack, don't like to clutter my pockets.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před rokem

      That works. when in nature...i do actually like to carry bigger knives in my pocket. I find bigger knives uncomfortable only when I sit.

  • @msakmaxyblasco6921
    @msakmaxyblasco6921 Před 2 lety

    Hello its great to see you again!!, great knife!

  • @lymedog3176
    @lymedog3176 Před 2 lety +1

    Spartan, I know you said AUS 10a is hard to sharpen… I find the absolute contrary… I find it easy to sharpen , especially cold steels AUS 10a. D2 ,s30v and s110v totally suck to sharpen…. Haven’t tried maxamet but heard the same about that steel. But, AUS 10a, 14c28n and CTS-BD1 are quite easy to get an edge. I consider, even though it’s not a super steel like elmax or cru-wear, AUS 10a to be one of the best all purpose steel that can take a beating!

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před rokem

      I find it a bit harder to sharpen than some steels. Dropping the edge angle down, i found that took a bit more time than with other steels. Just sharpening, keeping an edge angle....that went by really smooth. I mainly use diamond stones and I compare them accordingly. Not to say that I am right and you are wrong. It does depend on what you use and your technique as well as the materials you use to sharpen

  • @magnusheiding9843
    @magnusheiding9843 Před 2 lety +1

    the main reason for 4max scout as I see it for me is, a fixed blade that is the same size att 4max scout is in practical sens imposible to carry in a pocket with a sheath, a folder reduce the length by like 40-50% in length, that is a huge reason for this knife to exist , I love my big an huge fixed blade knife, but it´s not possible to tak them and go in a pocket, the 4max scout you can easily do that in 1 sec :)

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      I agree 100%. I was thinking of an ESEE 4/4 Max Scout comparison. The 4 Max Scout is heavier but I think that also comes with some benefits. However the ESEE 4 can take more abuse because it is a fixed blade.
      Carrying the knife in your pocket, not needing a sheath and still being able to do about 80-90% of what you can do with a fixed blade of the same weight/length...can be quite a thought changing experience

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 Před 2 lety +2

    The biggest problem with the 4-Max is it's not a 5-Max.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      i'd like to see that too!

    • @joex
      @joex Před 2 lety +4

      i know this comment!

  • @MartinLeschinski
    @MartinLeschinski Před 2 lety

    Thank you for another great Video!

  • @Dacarolinakrown
    @Dacarolinakrown Před měsícem

    I'll always carry my 4 max scout. And my nephew will be carrying a 4 max when he's 14

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před měsícem

      Definitely a big folder. I tested it against the esee4. Made a video. Sure it is not going to be as resistant to abuse as a well made fixed blade but i think it definitely held its own

  • @southernyert7597
    @southernyert7597 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for video. I have the AD10 & just have a good time beating on it.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      Someday I will probably get that one if i find it for a good price. As much as i like the 4 MaxScout i think I'll like the AD10 that much more

    • @joshuabriggs7114
      @joshuabriggs7114 Před 2 lety

      @@SpartanJohns see if you can find an early one. They are hollow ground and have much better edge geometry.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      @@joshuabriggs7114 I already have this one...sure i'd like a nice hollow grind. I think it would be very useful especially when you want to use it for cutting into harder materials. I have to be honest here and admit that I use this one mostly for chopping. I am planning to sharpen it at a lower edge angle but for now i am curios how long this factory edge will last without taking any damage. It is still very sharp. And the initial edge angle is not bag considering its size

    • @drouleau
      @drouleau Před 2 lety

      The AD-10 is awesome. It's the perfect larger folding knife to carry. The ergos are great (probably my favorite of any folder I've owned so far), and I carry it while hiking in case I need to stab a mountain lion as a last resort before getting mauled to death. Honestly, I don't notice it in my pocket even after 10+ miles.

  • @kennywheelus6857
    @kennywheelus6857 Před 2 lety +1

    I saw on a channel,joe x put it through the ringer an couldn't break the lock mechanism

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah...i saw it too! I do like his destruction tests. This is a stubby, heavy knife! I think that for what it looks like it really outperforms itself. I personally don't have much use for it but I like it!

    • @kennywheelus6857
      @kennywheelus6857 Před 2 lety

      @@SpartanJohns , right gotcha,I don't either since I've gotten my Leatherman surge but however I could throw it in a bugout bag

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah...it makes a good heavy duty tool...I don't think I have another folder which is build this solid

    • @kennywheelus6857
      @kennywheelus6857 Před 2 lety

      @@SpartanJohns ,true that,I do love how it's cheaper too than the ad 10,both are super stout though

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +2

      I thought about the AD10 but I decided that I would feel less sorry to actually use/abuse this one and modify it when the time comes.

  • @demo2952
    @demo2952 Před 2 lety

    I rotate between this, the spartan, the sr1 tanto, and the talwar xl

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      the talwar....that is a cool one. a bit out of my price range....but maye someday....

  • @chubbyjohnson5480
    @chubbyjohnson5480 Před 2 lety

    For most this isn't an EDC knife. As a big man I appreciate the size.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      I like the size and weight of it! Very capable, very stable! Chops like no other. Complete overkill for 99% of people. Big guys and the ones who really do hard every day tasks are that 1%.
      Me? I love it! But I really have few things which call for it. I take it in the woods mostly and really like to use it for processing fire wood. I am fascinated by it. Thought about other models of similar size, weight, from CS. And if I can set aside some money..i think I will try out a few more.

  • @Revolverguy38
    @Revolverguy38 Před 2 lety

    Was it very sharp out of the box

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      The 4 MaxScout was ok-ish....not as sharp as my other cts xhp models...not that the steel has anything to do with it. It was probably a different quality control back then
      But it did slice paper....and the edge angle is not that huge

  • @redastrachan8978
    @redastrachan8978 Před 2 lety

    Is your pinky lanyard available?
    (Great vid!)

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      "Patent pending"! :))
      But yeah....I have seen 1-2 people actually use it like this but have had no feedback...whether they got the idea from me or somewhere else

  • @cassanoa
    @cassanoa Před 2 lety

    I would love to see you re-grind the edge to see what you would consider to be the best usable angle for everyday use - thanks

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      Currently i have the edge angle at about 20 dps...which, for such a thick grind, makes things more difficult. But it is very resistant to abuse.
      I am sure that at 17 it would do much better while still being able to withstand some abuse. 15 dps is what I am aiming for. But before this I will drop the edge angle on the AirLite to see how 15 dps does for AUS10SA with normal use.

  • @dksparticles3187
    @dksparticles3187 Před rokem

    Check JoeX review of this beast. It is stronger than most fixed blades.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před rokem +1

      I know his channel and his video on the 4Max Scout.
      I also tested the 4Max Scout against the ESEE 4 check it out if you want to

    • @dksparticles3187
      @dksparticles3187 Před rokem

      @@SpartanJohns Yes, I have watched it. It is great. I really like your reviews, really good, realistic and no nonsense. I also use the pinky lanyard ;)

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před rokem +1

      @@dksparticles3187 ahhh...a man of culture... the.."SpartanJohns Patent Pending Pinky Lanyard" you mean...surely.... 😁
      Thank you! Much appreciated!

  • @andrewfournier8817
    @andrewfournier8817 Před 2 lety

    Aftermarket clips on Ebay make this way more pocketable.

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      I thought about that....but then again...what are the chances of me carrying this one in my pocket anywehere else than in the woods....

    • @andrewfournier8817
      @andrewfournier8817 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SpartanJohns I don't know- where I live I can drive through hours of wilderness, get out at a stop for fuel and food- and prefer my gear be concealed. It's that sort of thing I was considering: being dressed for camp but having to make stops...

  • @dakotafigueroa66
    @dakotafigueroa66 Před 2 lety +1

    I edc my 4 max 🤭

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      if you do....I think that's cool! I like mine...it's on my desk....but I mainly take it outdoors to chop. :)

  • @lurveleggoutdoors9930
    @lurveleggoutdoors9930 Před 2 lety +1

    Even a fixed blade can break. Then why would anyone do the same thing to a knife with moving parts? It's fun, I get that. For that bulk and weight it makes no sense to not bring a fixed blade instead.
    To me it's the lack of logic that baffles me if this knife is ment to chop and batton.
    And if it's not suppose to do it, then what is it for? I use folders and sturdy fixed blades, but for different jobs. It's rediculous allright!😆

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +2

      I think CS has a big percentage in the business of RIDICULOUS. Most companies do but without saying so. They overbuild blades(Thicker stock, thicker grinds, bigger edge angles) and make more robust handles and then they pretend that their knives are "slicers" at 0.8 mm behind the edge with a 25 dps edge angle and say so when presenting them on youtube. See Spyderco/Shaman.
      CS overbuilds their folders and show abuse.
      Why a folder and not a fixed blade? I have thought about this a long time. I answered that question for myself when I got the Voyaer XL. I always carried the ESEE 6 with me when going out bushcrafting. And it was on my belt. Lately I keep the Voyager in my pocket. Not entirely the same purpose for those 2 blades but i am thinking you get my point

  • @cassanoa
    @cassanoa Před 2 lety

    sounds like you want to hate this knife but cant :-)

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety +1

      oh no! far from it. I thought it would be a cool knife! But i never really thought it would actually be as useful as it turned out to be. I like it very much! I was looking to like it and was even more surprised than I thought it to be possible

    • @cassanoa
      @cassanoa Před 2 lety

      @@SpartanJohns mine will be arriving today - I’m sure I will love this knife - I have not found anyone who dislikes it - it’s power seems to shine through - thanks for the great review

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      @@cassanoa thanks to my late reply....you probably already have the knife. You like it? Can you relate to the point i showed in this video?

    • @cassanoa
      @cassanoa Před 2 lety +1

      @@SpartanJohns I can relate to your point - it’s size looks like it wouldn’t be useful but it does cut well - I do carry it but I do hesitate to deploy in mixed company - people look to much - I like to blend in - so I carry another as well and put the scout in my laptop bag - in a bad situation I would not feel comfortable with out it - it’s more than a knife - it’s a hard working tool - it’s just a solid machine - the lock is the reason I bought it - I am very happy with it in the inventory- your review and that of joeX were great research - thanks for the sensible review

    • @SpartanJohns
      @SpartanJohns  Před 2 lety

      @@cassanoa Thanks for the reply! for me it is always useful to know if people can relate to what/how i show/talk about things.