AtGames Gottlieb 4K pinball game packs review - Are the worth it?

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024

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  • @evilgeniusentertainment
    @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +5

    You guys snagging these tables or thinking about upgrading to the 4KP because of them?

  • @steveblersch
    @steveblersch Před 5 měsíci +4

    I think the 4k machine is worth it, but mainly for reasons other than it being 4k. The feedback from the surround sound system, Zen tables, the larger back box and the artwork on the machine are better reasons to upgrade in my opinion.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yeah, the total effect is one that puts it light year's ahead of the HD ALP or A1up vpins. The new games are straight up fun on this machine... but those 4K graphics don't hurt!

    • @steveblersch
      @steveblersch Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@evilgeniusentertainment that’s for sure!

  • @carlo1132
    @carlo1132 Před 5 měsíci +7

    At full price they are not worth it. I have them on the HD and 4KP. I got them for #12.50 a pack so 50 bucks for 22 tables then they credited me 20 off so 30 bucks for 22 tables. I'd say buy them on a dip of 33 to 50 percent off during a NOD sale.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +1

      $ 25 is def premium pricing. There's actually a pretty big difference between charging say like $20 for 6 games vs $25 for 5. I mean they just came out, so it's not heinous, but I do think $20 is probably the sweet spot for the non-sale price.

  • @bonesjackson81
    @bonesjackson81 Před 5 měsíci +4

    The Gottlieb tables look flat on the og ALP. Like level differences aren't distinctive. Zac tables had that feel. Looking at a video the Gottlieb look like they have that here. But I'm still waiting in case Twilight Zone machine happens and a lower price point.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci

      The plastics and ramps look miles better on these 4K versions. Yeah, from here on out it's new Zen tables... which I can't wait to see.

  • @teeken8850
    @teeken8850 Před měsícem +1

    I just upgraded, my older model originally legends pinball HD machine. to a totally new 2 screen back box, totally new LG 165mhz monitor, and yes that was worth it....also a much better monitor and back glass and DMD... Than the new "4K" legends pinball machines... while i still have to blindly hit get inot OTG mode... that within a few days will be over with when the new PinOne Boards and Buttons and new plunger arrive... all in all...The Legends HD was a good spring board..but the native tables on it..are never used anymore anyway... so it provides a cabinet to house the new equipment... I love my formerly legends machine....

  • @fernandolyons3782
    @fernandolyons3782 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great review as usual. I thought I was the only person that thought they should have added more rolling effects to the score board on those old EM tables like Jacks Open.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks Fernando! Unlike the play fields, which were obviously upgraded from scratch - I think they simply reused the same exact back glasses from the HD ALP. I mean it's OK, but hopefully they get a re-fresh on the next wave of firmware updates, at least the EM games.

  • @MichaelBtheGameGenie
    @MichaelBtheGameGenie Před 5 měsíci +2

    Enjoyed your look at these. I would love to talk horror movies with you some time. No lol the DMD should not be family pictures haha 😊

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thank you brother, I really appreciate that! No family pics huh? Well, pin-up girls then? I mean, whatever floats your boat!

  • @davefoster3810
    @davefoster3810 Před měsícem +1

    Great honest review! Thx

  • @PapaBradsGaming
    @PapaBradsGaming Před 5 měsíci +3

    Very well done review. I agree with your points!

  • @MrSteveonbroadway
    @MrSteveonbroadway Před 5 měsíci +1

    I bought the 4k alp for the love of these emp games.. I really really hope we get more, great seeing my name on your video on Centigrade 37 im #9 reminds me need to get to basement and get #1 spot back...

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci

      LOVE me some Centigrade 37! I'm no good at it, but I love it! Chasing those high scores is so much fun... good luck!

    • @MrSteveonbroadway
      @MrSteveonbroadway Před 5 měsíci

      Being able to chase in smaller community is what makes machines feel like in a real arcade.. We just need more EM tables.. @@evilgeniusentertainment

  • @Hiylow
    @Hiylow Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hi the graphic improvements you suggested for the Jacks Open Backglass is incorrect in such that the scoring display is exactly like the Original. No separation lines etc. It is exactly the same. Not commenting on resolution. I leave that up to you. Thanks for the good work

  • @jombeemeanstroke6426
    @jombeemeanstroke6426 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I bought one of these packs and sometimes when I start up a board the speakers put out static that doesn't end until I leave the game. On the other hand, I bought Tatio tables and they've been updating them, so they do keep making improvements.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I haven't had any static issues as of yet... and hopefully never! These tables do not need any kind of gigantic improvements, but small ones here and there would be nice down the line.

    • @MrBlueskyguy
      @MrBlueskyguy Před 5 měsíci +1

      The static happend to me last night for the first time!

    • @jombeemeanstroke6426
      @jombeemeanstroke6426 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MrBlueskyguy Oh no I jinxed you! Sorry

  • @petermacnab1871
    @petermacnab1871 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The high scores on the backglass is cool. Are those local or online scores that show on the backglass. I’m in Canada and it’s super expensive so I think in a year or 2 the price will drop and the issues or most issues will be fixed by then.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It's funny, because I really hadn't thought about that until I was editing this episode when I thought the exact same thing! I'll have to double check, but I think it's both local and on-line scores.

    • @petermacnab1871
      @petermacnab1871 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@evilgeniusentertainment lol ! that is very cool how they are displayed !

  • @paulcleary8088
    @paulcleary8088 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bad rom sound is something that doesn't get addressed enough in the community. Jokerz! for example. Super fun. Visually great. But it sounds so bad on my system that I either mute it, or just skip playing it.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah, you can't pretend it's not there. I think we tend to accept it more for VPX/FP versions b/c they are fan-created. But it's clear that the same (or very similar) ROM is being using across all formats for games like HAUNTED HOUSE. I'm not even sure it's possible to get a better ROM for those older 80's/90's games.

  • @Jamie-cm2tu
    @Jamie-cm2tu Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks for mentioning the branded ball. I can’t stand it. Hopefully they will listen to your great insights and suggestions.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci

      Jamie - I don't know how much they listen to me, but what the heck, it's worth a shot! The branded ball isn't horrible, but it is clear difference between these Gottlieb tables and every other pin for the 4KP. And yeah, it something we should be able to change in every table at some point - who doesn't ant shinny balls? ;)

  • @raydelatorre9532
    @raydelatorre9532 Před 5 měsíci +1

    In your opinion who has better pinball physics? Gottlieb tables or Zaccaria tables? I want to hear your opinion because you have a real pinball machine

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I'd say Gottlieb & Zen physics are very close to each other, and Zac/MP physics just a smidge worse. They're all pretty close though. I'd say you can do more flipper tricks like catching the ball w/Gottlieb. Put another way - I think the physics are pretty darn good actually; basically about the same as Future Pinball's latest. VPX still has the over-all best IMO.

    • @raydelatorre9532
      @raydelatorre9532 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@evilgeniusentertainment thank you

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Hey no problem! It is interesting how all of the various sets of physics are very close, but no 2 exactly the same. Which is a bit like playing in the real world, where torn up play fields and dinged up balls can affect play. Playing DEATH STAR ASSAULT right now and those FP physics are just enough different to keep you on your toes!

  • @davysmith8569
    @davysmith8569 Před 5 měsíci +1

    60hz to 120 is huge in pinball, you really gotta see it to believe it.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Davy - oh, I run 120 on my DIY pin. It is a nice thing, but it is not a make-or-break feature, at least for me. But others differ with me, placing 120 fps as one of the most important features. Personally, I had a very good gaming experience with these Gottlieb tables (even at 60fps).

  • @show-me-retro
    @show-me-retro Před 4 měsíci

    Unfortunately the ball still doesn't look like a real pinball and seems floaty like before. It's better, I guess but I doubt I would play them any more than I did before. Graphically yes, it looks better but the physics still seem off and that's what really draws you in when playing vp

  • @michaelmercer6535
    @michaelmercer6535 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great Video! I just got the Gottlieb tables on my Legends 4k Snoopy machine and I have noticed that sometimes when booting up the Gottlieb tables, there is an audio glitch and you get a loud buzzing sound from the speakers. I have to exit out of the table and reboot it and it usually fixes the issue. This is only happening on the Gottlieb tables. Have you hit this issue at all? Thanks! Michael

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci

      Hey thank Michael! And a couple of other people have said they've had a similar issue, but knock wood, I haven't had it happen yet.

  • @gargamel3966
    @gargamel3966 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The sound is so good on my hd. Has the buystuffarcade upgrade. Using it to play non 4k games and the coinops games. Have not pulled the trigger on 4k gottlieb. Waiting for new tables. Twilight zone should be good i hope. Not willing to part with the hd so trying to keep different games on each. The 4k doesnt support coinops.

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci

      There's a strong argument to keep what you have and get the 4KP, at least if you're interested in those Zen games. I never used coinops on the ALP, so that was never an issue for me, but yeah it could be a massive thing depending on your use. Nothing wrong in waiting to see what shakes out (well, other then fighting FOMO is hard!)

  • @gregorystout2809
    @gregorystout2809 Před 5 měsíci +1

    JBV, any update on the delivery status of these tables? I ordered mine on Dec 28 and haven't heard a peep or received an email update, and I can't find any info on the Atgames site?

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci

      Which table did you order?

    • @gregorystout2809
      @gregorystout2809 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@evilgeniusentertainment I ordered the Star Trek table with the Surround Sound Feedback Kit preinstalled. What intel do you have?

    • @evilgeniusentertainment
      @evilgeniusentertainment  Před 5 měsíci

      None! Other then that AG has released their road map for the next couple of months....

  • @ferrellsl
    @ferrellsl Před 3 měsíci +1

    Good review. Thanks!

  • @MikeS-el6vd
    @MikeS-el6vd Před 5 měsíci +1

    Good observations JDV! Appreciate your honest review and opinion of these.

  • @courtyard9966
    @courtyard9966 Před 4 měsíci

    I wouldn’t buy them, bad sound and flat playfield and flying balls instead of rolling, same with zen adam family and peanuts but Thanks for the add flipper lag to zen games, really the only tables to buy are zaccaria tables period.

  • @ien2023
    @ien2023 Před 4 měsíci

    I doubt it's gonna make it to Sam's Club as it's way over what the Average Joe can afford.