BMW 6GT OEM+ High-End Audio System EXPLAINED - Focal, Zapco, JL, Tchernov Cable, Silent Coat, Helix
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Introduction of this project:
• BMW 6 GT intro - Focal...
Teaser of this system:
• BMW 6GT OEM+ High-End ... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I have always had a love for Focal. You go above and beyond to extract every bit of performance from this incredible set.
it is the worst thing to have them facing each other. Can never get the image right that way. Love your setups man, the way you do things is very logical AND practical.
It’s not the worst thing to do it that way, but it won’t be great to tune it and make it pleasant in both front seats, especially if you want to get a single seat tune on it, which would sound rather non-ideal for the passenger.
The level of detail and competence that goes into this and his other builds are incredible. It wouldn't be cheap but if you want the best then the time and effort he spends on your build is worth it as there are very few places that can even achieve this level of detail and openness in building your car. As a DIY hobbyist that knows how long it takes to do it right and chances of taking it to a shop and the result being less than what I can do myself, I have to say I would actually be glad to pay for the work done here. Well done, I wish you all the best and success.
Peter, I truly love the pillar/sail panel build. They flawlessly mold into the cars interior. I also hope you get to experience the family life. Being a Dad makes you feel like everything before being a Dad doesn’t compare. Another great build!
Love all your creative works and thumbs up for the passion :)
The information that you give in your videos are priceless! Every since I found your channel, you have never failed at delivering top notch builds, which has guided me to wanting a more sound quality setup.
Another thorough walk through enjoy the attention to detail!! Inspiring!
OMG, six days into just sound deadening! Fantastic! 🔊🔊
Excellent work you guys. I especially enjoyed the construction of the pillars and how you added metal to the milkshake to lower the resonance of the pillar. Very impressive 👍
love this video and how you explain things
thanxs for shaing these amazing builds
Like you said, Focals are not harsh or bright. They play everything so a perfect tuner like yourself can have more headroom tune it to perfection.
My two favorite speakers are Focal and Gladen. Both have all that supreme sound that is a tuners dream. You just have to know what you are doing. You are that person. 👍
Holy molly, you're a car-audio artisan, I want to get to your level one day. Kudos!
Love it! The pillars look great!
What a great shot at the beach. Love the install, really practical and oem+ like
Thank you Peter and Nick. OE and Focal, sounds familiar. Keep up the good work and see you soon
God damn, that is a Focal Utopia M series right there! Crazy set! thanks peter good stuff
Thanks Peter. I will be starting soon on mine
I bet those M drivers sound amazing. Fantastic install on these apillars!
You choose a perfect background to make this video .
Nice car, hi-fi and video! 😁
Hi, congratulations for your work. It’s Amazing and look very oem. I like it that way
Seagulls streaming "mine, mine, mine, mine" lol.yeah, I'm corny
You outdid yourself on this build. I’m sure it’s your best sounding system built.
Since this video we have had many updates on this system. It’s definitely a high-end setup and can please many audiophiles. 🔊🔊
I just ordered UMIK1 after your recommendation ,,, Looking forward to tune my system like u... PRO level.
somesh yadav check the tuning playlist then and find the description in the first one to learn the basics of REW & acoustics, otherwise the mic means nothing on it’s own.
@@pssound9749 thanks for your suggestion and reply
Beautiful!
Good job Peter.
Really nice ... well done.
The biggest problems I have with building SQ systems, is a) time (I work in a mostly volume shop and we only have 1 salesman) and b) customers don't like the way it sounds when it's tuned...usually "it needs more bass" or "...more highs." I always try to suggest they learn the software and try it out, but nowadays everyone wants to write a check and be done. They won't even learn to set the clock. lol
This is great!!!
Love love love the pillars
I can't stop staring at the airbag notification, lol
I'm on 3 days of sound deadening so I'm feeling your pain
Hi John, just a question, as I have some sound deadening to do. Are you doing it in a garage with your car? As I,m having to do mine outside but thought it would be too cold for outside??
@@Levi081 Heatgun is your friend
@@kiklop8362 looks like another tool for my toolkit, will have to get one. Just the doors & rear wheel arch to do.
Those A pillars are fantastic...
"People often say Focal speakers are harsh"
A comment that I've rolled many an eye at. Most people just don't know how to tune!
they are not harsh, they are actually easy to tune because they are sterile. lifeless. loud but no dynamics, clear but not warm. just sterile.
@GuitarTherapy144
"Clear but not warm" - that sounds like "accurate" to me.
Real life does not sound "warm".
@@pete3198 basically you saying that getting focal es165k2 components new for 300usd is a a steal and good sound quality? 😎😁
@GuitarTherapy144
Not sure where you would get them for that price other than stolen / fakies off ebay, but sure... if I was looking for car audio branded speakers and was restricted to that kind of budget a set of K2Ps would be had and sounders above just about anything available for that money.
Amazing
How far down is it good to cross the OEM position on the doors of a BMW E90 to integrate with the underseat 8” drivers ?
Many thanks !
Hey peter! I'm still waiting for your video on your secrets to tuning! Hahaha very nice build! 👍👍👍
Ali Mahdavi haha everyone does! 😃
There’s more shared about tuning on Patreon.com/pssound. 👌🔊🔊
Hi Peter,
very nice install as always. just two questions :)
1)Approx how much such kind of install cost? Approx if not accurate i know it take loads and loads of time and sometime counting every min or hour is impossible.
2) have you done any install for VW golf mk5 or any log book from any of your friends install?
Thanks and stay safe
Great video, quick question do you ever set the amps as a right side on one amp and left on the other amp? I am looking at cross talk and channel separation. Source aside, don't know how the dsp would deal with gji and is it a problem you have encountered.
Thank you,
Keep up the great work
Hello from Fort Lauderdale. Florida
jprieto727 i had problem with that before when using separate amps for separate sides: if there is any difference between the 2 amps in the time domain, then your focus and staging shift randomly depending on how well the 2 amps work in sync. That was enough for me to forget that layout option. New amps have no problem with ch separation, it’s a pointless ideology nowadays based on old amps 40-50 years ago!
Congratulations again! Great job. You have shown that beauty is not incompatible with effectiveness. One question Peter: if timing is correct in all the drivers, why do you put out of phase one of the tweeters? (thanks in advance for your answering) ;-)
Jesus Martin because tweeters were running on OEM speaker lines and it’s hard to trace polarity, so it was easier to change it in the DSP. 🤷🏻♂️
Peter how do you connect the dsp to the factory radio system in high-end cars like this?
Ashton Murch if the car has MOST25 or 150, then you can get optical signal out of them.
It’s shown in the introduction & this video too where and what is used. It think you have to watch them properly! 😘😃
Hi Peter i know its how you implement and tune drivers etc but whats your 3"+1" pic...focal utopia M or accuton mobile? In regards of overall soundquality tonal balance etc😊
My ultimate pic is Accuton, but it’s over 2x the price and possibly more difficult to install, but for the price the Utopia M was awesome in this project! It’s coming back soon for a bit more experimentation with the midbass install, so i’ll have more content of it! 🤘
@@pssound9749 thanks for your reply! I still have to find a new bmw to start my build. But really interested in the focal mobile line. Just that i have gz plutonium tweeters ap nz3albe midrange and rohacell carbon midbass drivers laying collecting dust🤣
Have you heard the focal utopia ultima line?😍
Top notch build as always! The f90 was sick!
Which do you think I should select
I have the same sub...my box isn't that nice though lol.
My future plan is to install into 2014 MBZ E350 cabriolet.
Any ideas? Kick cxa1200.1
And zapco references 360.4
Cabrio is a pain. I’d aim the sub into the cabin, so you get less rattles in the limited space of the trunk.
27:13 impressive
Pete do you protect those tweeters? With a 47 microfarad-condensator ?
No. We have clean power with appropriate Xover on DSP. Never had any issue, but if someone is inexperienced, then it’s worth to put a cap/fuse in line.
Problem that I gave on my Bmw 5, and this 6 also has the same problem, is that factory unit has a pre-programmed roll off for bass frequencies especially once you increase the volume from half to higher. It is designed in a way to protect the factory speakers. And I hate it.... don’t know if your dsp managed to battle this.
Ale Wu turn that down to minimum in the settings of OEM HU and you’re good. 👌
How do you think these drivers would sound in the oem locations? I know it would not be ideal. But i thought maybe you tried before going this route
dominiquebreve better than factory speakers! 😃
Midrange location is slightly low in this car obstructed by your knee, so that’s that.
You, sir, are guru! I'm going to do the patreon to support and do the level where I can connect with you about tuning. I'm 55 and have been into SQ installs since I was in my 20's. I appreciate your passion!
Hi Mark,
The RTA Evaluation Tier maybe useful for you, but other than that i can’t help more with tuning. We run onsite training. Check out the one we had in Melbourne, it was shared few weeks ago, that’ll explain everything about it.
@pssound9749 yes, I saw it. I believe that'll be suffice for what I need!
Yeah man looks shecshy! Xx
Hi Peter, nice result in the BMW, respect. Around 14th minute off your video, you are telling that the midrange speakers must be very capable to work with the under seat woofers because they can only play up to 160 to 180 hertz. It made me think and I’ve looked up what the frequency range is of the Focal mids. I saw on the specs of Focal that lowest frequency of the utopia mids are 200 hertz. Did this give you any issues when tuning the system?
Kind regards.
Umıt Bozkır what they say on paper is one thing. Did you see if it stated filter and slope type?
@@pssound9749 very interesting answer.... Let’s see how it will work in my 535xd touring with my choice of speakers.
Umıt Bozkır i’d explain it further if you can figure out the filter type that i asked about in the previous comment.
@@pssound9749 hi Peter. I just ordered sail panels and a pillars, so I didn’t start my project. But by accident I came along this video
czcams.com/video/h9E8frzM9O4/video.html. In my opinion it’s B.S. and the locations and the whole concept is wrong. But on the other side actually not a bad idea, but location wise a no go (almost everything in the doors🤮). That’s the reason of my question. Am I right or has this dude a point (besides the locations in the door)?
Umıt Bozkır there is no gap, only for those who can not tune and install capable midrange that can be crossed at 170-180Hz LR24. Even those door enclosures have acoustical gaps, dips and null points. It can only benefit if they did 2 way with just the enclosures and tweeters.
Peter, ill will be doing a pillar builds ,I was gonna do full fiberglass, but then I see you style, what kinda epoxie,epoxies, glue do you use,if thats to much to ask ,I understand???
If you go through his previous videos, you will find his pillar build. He talks about it. Go to his channel and look at his playlist.
You're everywhere
Yeah, I love car audio,and music, so I watch alot of shows!!
@@colbylaro9361 peter from ps sound one of my favorites, he's a bad ass installer!!
Dennis Walker whatever i can share for free is in the fabrication playlist. The rest is on Patreon.com/pssound. We shared the Golf VI dashboard build and that has proper in-depth content. 👌
hi!
the song from 21:20, please???
thank you. ;)
It’s copyright free music from CZcams Library, no idea about the title, sorry.
how much extra weight the vehicle gained on the end ? i am guessing around 100kg 120 ish ?
ERRORFACE1 only 40kg.
@@pssound9749 that's actually very good
I'm on the verge on making a decision on either one of the dsp, zapco hdsp v or the alpine x090 16 channel
eduardo batista i have no experience with the Alpine, but i doubt it’s capable for giving out the same sound quality as the Zapco.
Thank you , that's all I need to know, I think it's a great deal since it already comes with the hd player and the bluetooth is excellent
eduardo batista just make sure you get tech support with firmware update & guidance on operation as it’s not plug’n’play, otherwise you’ll need lots of patience.
Yea I have they have so many videos on the start up and update, so I'm looking at about 20 you tube videos plus google and zapco itself shows and helps , at least the basic looks simple ,but the guys in the shop will have to deal with it first but at least I'll know if they are doing it correctly, after 100 videos you get the idea lol, it also helps to know a little, lol, I've used dsp before, just never zapco, so I'm doing g my homework like if I was back in college,
Ben Zimmerman from zapco is really helpful giving all info needed to work the unit, and work all the functions, all his videos are on you tube Facebook and other famous sites, if things go weird we also have a few guys here in the states that do remote tuning like nick apicella
Tchernov rca model??? 75ohm // 110ohm???
Special RCA cable with Classic plugs.
Turkish PRO there is no translation on CZcams.
@@pssound9749 sorry...
Your setup is great ... now I will montage focal utopia m for my car ... I am preparing my vehicle ... I will buy tchernov special xs mk2 ....
I just changed the upcoming layout of my car after seeing this video 😭,
Devin Brathwaite why would you do that? 😃
@@pssound9749 I've been in and out of mobile audio industry for many years on the semi professional/professional level , now I'm a Dad myself for the past 3 years and as much as I love seeing everything on display functionality is everything that I need along with good quality sound.
Devin Brathwaite i see! Yes, family comes first and practically is king then! 🔊🔊
"I don't want to swear." 😁
Shafick Nazier i tend to say ff bulls..t way too often and i have to be more sophisticated than that! 😃😂
@@pssound9749 😂😂😂😂
Must be JL 12 " shallow sub?
JL 13TW5.
Hi Peter, I own a Octavia, is it advisable to cut the door panels midbass grilles, and replace the midbass drivers w it's original 6.5" grilles, after all sound dampings are in place? Or should i Install the Focal 8" Sub ? Will it resonate ? Especially when the passage goes real low? Will the door panels plastic rattles?
Installer, "So what's my budget for the audio system?" Owner, "Shoot for around what I just paid for the car."
Carter B i’d love that with a Bugatti! 😃
😊
and in order to HAVE all that you will buy a HYUUUUGELY overpriced "car" that has an engine cooling system with HYUUUUGELY unreliable and short lived PLASTIC parts that cannot readily be replaced..plus all the other wonderful amenities of owning a totally overengineered car that excels in electronics that YOU CAN NO LONGER hope to fix unless you ...oh enough enough..it is a great sound system certainly..so what you do is look for a wreck and deinstall that sound system and TRY to get it going at home ...where you dont have a can bus ..(not yet anyway) Might as well wait for an all electric car then at least you won't poison the air ..Is this amount of fetishism REALLY WORTH IT?????
konasteph when you drive 5 hours a day, then i guess yes.
no sound demo, thumbs down
Onetazien thank you, very kind of you! Maybe you should check description for link for the demo video and check the other videos on the channel too! 👏