DIVINITY ORIGINAL SIN 2 - Ultimate Starting Party Combinations
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7:28 Full Physical Damage Party
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18:59 Full Magical Damage Party
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Whatever you do make sure you combine nails with your boots on every character so they no longer slip on ice!
I just finished my first playthrough and i wish I had known this. My mind is blown hahahaha
@@sjeggy6 It's such an easy thing to forget about. I played all the way through a whole run forgetting to do it. 🤣 it's such a difference. Once you know you're safe you teleport them to the other side of the ice and watch them fall hahahmwahahaha ahem....if you want to of course. I would never coz I'm good and helpful hahahahmwahahah
@@sandrajohnston85 do you perhaps know how to get abilities like shade shift? The ai seems to use it and it seems so useful to teleport like they do
I’m on my 3rd playthrough, already past act 2… and I’ve only known about this tip. 🥲
I always like playing hydrosophist on my main character too, so the field is either wet or frozen, if not entirely burning with cursed fire. 😂
Love the idea of 4 summoners. 4 slightly lower powered characters, 4 incarnates, up to 12 totems. Raising your own damn army.
I think i re-rolled my entire game about 5 times already lol, and its funny because i like it =x , its like skyrim, the feeling of a fresh start.
Just play Honour mode. This way it will force you to re-roll instead of keep on going with what doesn't work. ;)
I've restarted my game like 8 times and I've had so much fun doing it, there's so much different things you can do
1 thing:
Chickens are actually immune to chicken claw.
Amun590 Too many chickens. - 1/10 IGN
Ludacrits Not enough chickens. - 9/10 IGN
I'm just going to save it at the Beach. I can't play that boat 1 more time without losing my mind.
@@galacticwarlock2271 tell me about it.. I f++King hate the merryweather ship start... they should do a non-tutorial start on the beach
@@NightOrchids most important part of the game take thievery loot everyone have a good start to the game
Awesome guide! Keep it up!
Wicked guide Bro keep up the awesome work
Chicken Claw's initials are CC
Croud Control's initials are CC
Coincidence? I think not!
Didn't expect this guide to be this good
Tenticle lash on knight is pretty dope as well since it scales to strength
Thank you sir!👍💪
After playing the game up to Act 4 I realize how valubale your recommendations are!
Ever experienced getting stuck simply because you have made wrong choices with builds and stats? It says on steam that I've played about 38 hours but I think I've maybe played the actual game for maybe 20, starting and restarting act 1 until I ended up finding the mods I felt comfortable with using that is going to help me because I'm really bad at it the game. While also not cheating my way through getting very easy wins. Also with the mirror and being able to spec my companions exactly like I want them from the second I meet them being the biggest thing I found the last time I tried playing the game. I feel a bit safer should I end up building one of my characters in a way that will screw me over later on.
Since after Halo there aren't any real big games coming until February I was thinking that I might try to go for a full run of DOS2 this Christmas and january. Now that I've tested a lot of things and have a rough idea of how I would like to play and which companions I want to use.
@@Bacbi I got a bit stuck multible times as the game is indeed very difficult but there are a few things that helped.
Stealing really helps to get gold, spellbooks and good gear, especially in Fort Joy. Save the game and make one character speak to a vendor, switch to another and steal.
Look up some good builds online if ou struggle, some skills are simpy really good on every character like adrenaline. The skillpoints were especially cryptic to me and I had no idea how to skill porperly so I looked up some guides.
Upgrade your gear at least every second level, really makes a big difference and as i didnt do that in the beginning I struggled way too much.
Find the right order to do areas as enemies being higher level makes them really difficult to beat.
Lastly, a good team comb is important and the easiest route is going all physical to just ignore all magic defense focusing on crowd corntol. On a second attemp I beat Act 1 in Tactician mode this way, something I thought to be impossible for me. Including magic is more fun though but really chaotic as well.
Very informative information 👍
Most skills are just "beating around the bush" skills, my approach since i have finished this game twice on classic and twice on hardest: 1 choose skills that disables opponents, ie knockdown, chicken form, stun, frozen, atrophy (better than cripple) if possible focus ur party on either physical or magic dmg not mixed. 2. Always, ALWAYS, attack the enemy that will have its turn next (the portrait beside your current character) as much as possible disable them ie. knockdown, stun, frozen, chicken form, in this way your opponents wont even hit you. 3. learn adrenalin, cloak & dagger, phoenix drive on every party member, again disabling skills are your bread and butter. Thats it.
Thats like the most basic boring strat ever. I like to experiment, thats where the fun in this game is at.
@@disres1337 well they did say thry beat the game multiple times, playing honour mode for example there is no "experimenting" you do what's the most effective
Yokonato yes and thats not where the fun is at in this game.
@@disres1337 then play on story mode noones stoping u
@@urieldraconis857 did i say someone is?
>It can either be a strength, finesse or intelligence based character
Or it can be a summoner) Since summoning is not affected by either of those stats it actually pays to invest in Wits and Con right from the start as a summoner. You'll have more HP, you'll be better at finding all those secret stashes and you'll always (or almost) go first. Also it's good to have Pet Pal on a summoner since he doesn't need other talents as much as other characters do, aside from All Skilled Up perhaps
You missed one thing about Elemental Arrowheads; it combos really well with Elves and their Flesh Sacrifice ability. FS leaves you standing in a blood pool with 5 AP. EA the blood pool you just created to get Bloody Arrows, then use remaining four AP to shoot twice. Bloody Arrows increases your damage a good amount.
It's not near as useful if you're a non-Elf, however.
EA also works with all Melee Weapons until fixed. Abuse it.
Hey, never tough of this, ty! If this works, other interactions are also viable, like the heal while on blood perk or the necromancy heal using blood surfaces... back to the drwing board! XD
An elf summoner is extremly op especially if you hit summoning level 10 and go lone wolf
Ur bloody incarnate will be way too powerful
I usually go with BattleMage on frontline and then with Wizzard for massive fire dmg then Enchanter for shock and bit of healling spells and at bottom line I have summoner for sending help to front line and some totems at fire surfaces that Wizard can do.
I love your accent , I just started this game and it gives me some huge Baldur's gate vibes. I feel like a kid again.
You say baldur gate 3?
I missed Necro builds for physical damage parties. I love Necros and they can be off tanks (like in your Immortal Necro video). I find Necro the most versatile class in the game (after Summoners, ofc).
Undead is pretty nice for a summoner. Drop your incarnate and then play dead. You get a few turns where the enemies will move away from you and towards your incarnate or other allies.
Nice tip
"This thing will not die" lmfao 8:00
I'm not saying that RPGD's physical party is bad, because I'm sure it's fine. Just mentioning something I've used before here.
A lot of skills scale with weapon damage, which makes Finesse Warfare + Scoundrel possible with two daggers. Most Warfare skills allow any melee weapon. So zero conflicts there. You can backstab with skills, but you lose range on Whirlwind. Battle Stomp and Battering Ram are vital CCs just as with any other physical melee build.
You can also throw in Polymorph. Even though some Polymorph skills scale with Strength, it's still worth 2-3 points for the effects, and Heart of Steel is nice, especially if you cast it from outside of combat so it doesn't really cost any AP. Chicken Claw + Rupture Tendons is great (though IIRC they had to nerf the chickens so they don't run as far?).
Learned the hard way 3 mages and one fighter does not work.
aww man, so i have to start again...
Lmao
@@syro2412 You don't have to restart. 3 mages can work. It becomes quite strong in the midgame. Just needs a lot of spells early. Fort Joy will be rough, but once you hit lvl 9 you will be dishing out insane damage.
I tend to run a hydro and geo mage with a ranger focused on summoning and a warrior typically with a dip into polymorph and whatever else I’d like.
Honestly I think the strongest group you can start with is 3 summoner/fighters and one hydro/necro just for support and blood rain and roll your character as an elf. Summon incarnate (blood) and elemental totem (blood) are just so strong early game. If you're an elf and you recruit Sebille you just use the racial for some blood and then make blood infused incarnates and blood totems that will win most fights for you, especially since your fighters will have war stomp and battering ram for CC. And you can put a couple points into int/str/per and the rest into endurance to make your characters super tanky since all that matters for a summoner is their summoning level and bouncing shield scales off the shield. With one hydro/necro in your group that character can throw heals, cast blood rain, give frost armor and tear up enemies with physical magic like mosquito swarm.
scoundrel elves and fane can learn adrenaline in game in the first room past the tutorial just a quick tip for a free skill
For pure tanks, I find that single-wielding 1H weapon damage sucks, but some Polymorph skills have STR damage that isn't weapon-based. Then there's Bouncing Shield, and not a lot else. I haven't tried putting points into 1H Weapons, but I'm extremely skeptical about it.
Physical damage with a shield is hard to spam. Pure spell casting with a wand is easier. But melee is almost worth it just for the two Warfare knockdowns alone, if you accept that it's going to be a mostly non-damaging character who spends a lot of time spamming party protection buffs. A few skills scale directly with Armor as well. Shackles of Pain is also an option, but unfortunately the Necro passive bonus isn't going to be the best used on a tank. Two points of Aero just for Teleportation and Nether Swap can also be pretty useful.
It's not the most fun role. Usually you just boost physical/magic armor and look for easy knockdowns, maybe using a skill to do Physical damage first if they're not quite at 0 armor. Mostly enemies can just ignore this character.
Great job RPG Division, I also have some divinity guides if people want to check it out they are very unique specially my latest spell caster video which uses scoundrel and two handed!
Very nice. Always wanted to try Two Handed + Scoundrel Crit Multiplier combination but never got to it.
Got a like from me.
Keep it going mate.
I also re-started 3-4 times (everytime had tank,heal,2dps) because i like it hard and my setups were lacking firepower (bursting enemies, killing them fast).
Best start so far is this: Conjurer tank (Lhose), Conjurer (Prince) Wizzard (Sebille) Main Character (Enchanter). Enchanter will have little bit of heal, Prince will have lots of support/heals
i have 3 classes as summoner (branching to other class as secondary) and 1 archer (with pyro). LOL it's like tower defense game. Easy game.
Hi!! I'm very grateful for your videos, I think they're all great, and of course I'm subscribed to your channel! I have a question: everyone says that going full physical is the best option... is it true? Do you think it's better than mixed or magical? And if so, what is the second best combo? Mixed or magic pure? Thank you very much and continue with the videos, they (and you) are great, bastard!!
Yes, it is the best option cause enemies dont have resistance to physical dmg usually.
In the end it doesnt matter, everything works. Just go for something you prefer.
I'm gonna go two battle mages (one pyro, one aero) an elementalist, and a ranger
Its my first time playing and was wondering if the party composition I went with will be sufficient.
I started as red prince Ranger with summoner. Skills first aid, conjure incarnate, conjure totem
Sebille, told her pure wizard and she has Pyro and geomancer
Lohse with hydro and air
Beast as a cleric. He started with necro and hydro can he be my front liner? He has a shield...
Hey, how about a fully hybrid damage party?
I love the russian accent, its like this dude knows whats saying
For the mixed party I find it best to have 1 pure physical, 1 pure magic, and 2 hybrids. For example my current party has Prince as pure Fighter (with shield and some poly CC), Lohse as pure magic (mainly Hydro/some Aero), Beast as Battle Mage (split Warfare/Aero), and me as Hunter/Summoner. It's really easy to always attack whichever armor is lower on each enemy that way.
@super hessu But then when you go up against enemies that are strong against your damage type, you have to spend so much time just wearing down their armor. The way I build I always have at least three people that can attack whatever is most vulnerable, and the fourth will (at worst) have some kind of support abilities he can be doing.
@@jameshill2450
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I have been running a Fane Necro 2 hand tank and a Beast Summoner/ Geo support Lone Wolf team. It is just stomping thru the game so far. Physical damage is the easiest way to go IMO. Thinking about changing Beast to a Ranger/ Summoner and see how that works.
If you play Lone Wolf, everything works. It's so OP that it doesn't really matter how you build your character, especially if you play with two lone wolf characters.
Yeah, I really just started to notice that I dont really die ever and having 2 pure physical damage with a summoner is just kind of easy mode. Which is good for me cuz this is my first time playing one of these games and I didnt want to be so frustrated that I gave up and missed the story. The story is amazing IMO.
LW is not as OP as most people says. Overall 4 man party has slight advantage.
Why is that Kim? Is it cuz 4 party members gives you more options?
Well, i don't want to go writing a post with full calculations, because it would be too long and tedious, so i'll just write cliff notes version.
Damage to AP wise LW characters have slightly more than 2 to 1 advantage to non-LW characters before you count boosts from gear and somewhat less than 2 to 1 after you do that (since boost to skills and attributes from gear aren't doubled). Since there are also non-damaging AP use in the game that doesn't care about being LW (like you don't get to teleport to twice the distance or have better stat boosts from Clear Minded, Encourage, or knocking opponent down for 2 turns instead of 1) the generous (to LW) estimate of AP effectiveness on LW to non-LW characters is 1.5 to 1 or so. There are corner cases where LW has advantages, like pumping your crit chance since there are only two sources of that aside from gear (Ranged skill and Wits), summoner since they get disproportionate increase on exactly level 10 of summoning (ncarnate champion) and they are having easier time to slightly invest into other skills just for their ability (for example, Cloak and Dagger for scoundrel requires skill of 2, so LW char has to invest only one point, while non-LW has to invest 2 points). Later is mostly offset by boosts form gear.
Now, LW chars get 6 AP each, meaning that when you consider the effectiveness of AP i provided earlier, full party of LW to non-LW chars it's 18 to 16 in favor of LW party. That would mean the LW chars are advantageous, but there is another point - non-LW with all investment being same will always have TWICE the amount of ability slots on the party. Let's compare on LW character who goes full physical, he has two abilities ready - Battering Ram and Battle Stomp, but if we take two non-LW characters who are created absolutely the same, they will have DOUBLE of that prepared, meaning that they can CC an enemy for 4 turns before cooldowns restore instead of only 2 (and CD are same for all characters LW or not). Since CC is the name of the game that is D:OS, it's a very big advantage to have. Not only that, 4 party is more flexible in a sense that they can be in 4 places at once, meaning more flexibility in aiming those abilities, though somewhat more complex too since it increases the chance that at any given moment your character is in the range of AoE attack. Also there is a thing when you have your character CCed - with LW you loose 50% of your party power, with non-LW it's only 25%. CCing 2 characters is easier than 4, especially when your armor increases only by 30% on LW, meaning that enemies will have to do less damage before they can CC your whole party (though this is not as clear cut, since there are area abilities, so that advantage depends on how good you are with tactics and positioning).
I'm trying to find builds for Fane as a Magic User but I am worried about survivability and if I go summoner I hear that I won't be able to do pretty much anything besides being a buffbot.
Summoner's are pretty tanky though. Since you really don't need weapon or other stats. That means you can focus on getting a good shield and pump stats on CON (and wits so you get to attack first).
Summoner is sort of fun to have, but it also synergizes poorly and it wants to take over your whole build. Mid-game you gain a few skills that have a couple points of pre-reqs from another school, but that's about it. If you summon one totem each turn, you only have 2 AP for random utility spells or whatever else you want to do. So they hardly even need Memory points, either.
The ultimate non-scaling skill is Fane's skill. Or rather, it scales with the target instead of the caster.
i think i need to reroll again, 4th noob time.. starting to get my head around the game but talking about all the talents etc... when i meet a companion yes i can choose.. need to work out what is what from choices but obviously the skill sare already reset....? cant reset them?
@RPG Division I've watched some of your tubes on D:OS2 (they are superb), and one question keeps returning to me. Why not take summoner on every character? By that I mean just take the lowest level in the summon-skill needed to get an incarnate?
Incarnate scales with Summoning skill only. That means it becomes rather useless quickly if summoning skill is not leveled. You can do it but i honestly dont see a point. For example, 2 points into summoning can be put instead into dmg attribute and get 10 % more dmg.
thanks!
I have 3 of my characters main Summoner with their secondary skills as a supportive (support geo, hydro, etc...). Summoner so versatile coz you can choose physical or magic damage on totem and incarnate. Then you can branch off other skill tree as a support (heal, armor, surface area for infusion). My last character's an pyro archer coz who doesn't play archer? lol
I have a fighter, an enchanter, a wizard and a ranger. A dwarf, an elf, a lizard and an undead
I have the ecact same group with the difference my wizard is a fire summoner
None of my preset changes are staying what I make them. I build the pre-set, then if I click literally anything (change character, class, etc) then go back, it resets to the default preset. Please help.
I am a beginner. Which group would you recommend to me?
In your Ultimate Builds playlist (#13) you have the Mixed Danage Party as the Ultimate War/Polymorph, Ultimate Ranger and 2 Wizards that I assume are Ultimate or semi Ultimate whatever. That looks pretty good.Those videos and advice still valid right?
+Fou Mantoo
Ofcourse mate
POSS SPOILERS!! Am struggling on tactician but have around 1.5k to spend. Am lvl three and still have the arena plus frogs and then the dungeons but am dying trying to do these fights.
I can't seem to break physical armour quick enough to use my spells so am using normal attacks. However a lot of the time enemy will teleport n am down quick.
I guess I could get more xp by entering the forest and perhaps killing off the fire slugs/frogs but I tried the big slug and got wrecked by a fireball. Also am too low for the magister's I feel.
I suppose I could try n buy all the armour I can n steal some more but am I missing something big? I can kill a few things off but since starting even the crocs etc were tough fights...
I managed to blanket the arena in fire and even after reviving two chars was wiped. I can't seem to get my CC to work plus then am caught in my own fires etc. Perhaps I need the rain n Ice combo. (Also got hit with blindness is it?). Even the pooch is a tough nut.
(Have got the teleport gloves n done quite a few quests. There's still a missing dog n the undead in the dungeons. Plus some hounds which can prob kill).
Moss Tarantulas your main problem is your playing tactician, by the sounds of it. Try completing the game on classic. Doing this will give u time to learn the battle mechanics and also you will learn what builds are best to use. If u need any help or questions add me on steam and we can hit the arena together or do a play through on tactician. Steam name is PhastPaws.. Either way good luck dude 👍🏻
Savage Panda hey thanks I sorted it out by using a pickpocket n changed a few builds. I stopped playing before Xmas was at the last fight before finishing first act (oh looking for something to kill those shriekers cos it ran out)
Doing a playthrough with you sounds like fun!
P.s yeah tactician is hard. Am still working on getting a freeze build/better cc.
how does a healer work because once I use a skill it goes on a cooldown and i cant heal?
demonsean once you get about 3 points in hydro you can get several skills that all heal 15~ vitality (restoration, healing tears, cleanse wounds, mass cleanse wounds) so you can heal pretty well if you get all those skills
I think a Quantum Physic example use the same math as this game.
I doubt you can call it THE ULTIMATE party combination when you only considered the combination as it pertains to combat situations. What about, bartering, sweet talking, crafting etc. I'm a fan and I love your work.
AK47 for everyone!
.....is this a serious fuckin comment lmao
I've had the game for a week and am nowhere. My main char is a Ranger (straight ranger not summoner mix or anything) and I used Ifan...and I am trying to go grab all the companions BEFORE leveling up..but so far I have walked to Red Prince and don't know what to set him as. This game is so good but it's so hard to get started..I am just constantly stuck. I don't know what to set my party defaults as if my main is Ranger...
All the guides are too complex for a newbie and just leave me more confused (including this one)
I went with Cleric, Ranger, Shadow and Knight, but I have no idea how to build them as I level..an specific guides for that?
I totally agree with you. The good thing about this game is you have so many options! The bad thing about this game is you have so many options! I have paralysis of analysis. lol
Cleric is going to need hydrosophist and necromancer skills. For Ranger you might consider geomancer skills or one level of pyrokenitic. Shadowblade needs Scoundrel and Polymorph obviously. Knight is less of a tank and more of a fighter definitely max out warfare.
Cleric needs intelligence and constitution. Also depends if you want him to have a staff or weapon. 2 handed weapons become OP. If doing strength (weapon) build. Focus on strength, constitution, and intelligence. Hydrosophist skills improve by level and Necromancy skills have synergy with physical damage. You could also dip a few points in Warfare (It scales off your weapon [Str, Int, Fin]).
Ranger needs finesse. If using spells then intelligence as well.
Shadow needs finesse and intelligence.
Knight needs strength and constitution. 2 handed weapon or one handed with shield.
Bigger Better, All Skilled Up, and Pet Pal are all necessary.
I'm sure you can figure out the rest. ;)
I just jumped in. Enchanter, Rogue, Fighter, Ranger. But my ranger also has pyro and polymorph, my rogue also has summoning and polymorph, and my fighter has geo.
will warfare boost bouncing shield dmg? or does the skill get boost only from the shield stats?
It scales with shield stats *and* warfare. This means that it becomes rather useless on characters that don't put any points into warfare in the second half of the game.
+neltymind
Not really. Even with few points into warfare it does a lot of dmg.
noooo bouncing shield is the best dmg you can have for a tank
Warfare increases ANY physical damage you deal. Bouncing shield deals physical damage, so it is boosted by warfare
And this skill remains useful even without lot of points in warfare since it scales with your shield's armor rating. Just remember to keep it on your current level and it will remain relevant.
Guys, 2 hand still puts out more damage in general than a shield though right?? Im trying to decide myself if I wanna go shield.
Can you do ULTIMATE BARRELMANCY BUILD (if it still works)? Just for fun.
+Agentnewbie
How would that work?
No clue really.
Full Telekinesis and OVERWEIGHT BEYOND IMAGINATION Ornate chest (because undestroyable). You simply throw or teleport it on top of your enemies (or throght them, i dont remember how it is done correctly).
To build around it I guess you need alot of constitution, Elf and Adrenaline (for more ap per turn), Living Armor, Percevirance...well everything that will just keep you alive and as away from CC as possible. Also since it deals Physical damage, I wonder, would it benefit from Warfare...
+Agentnewbie
Already have that build on the channel. Called it telekinesis build.
+RPG Division well shit, didn't dig deep enought
by the way, do Stench work with Oportunist?
im stuck with going as fane.. hes like the ultimate hero to be your main.. i dont know why
Choyax Iceholocaust he’s annoying as fuck
All the party combination recommendations seem to ignore thieving skills like opening locks and disarming traps. Is this not an important part of the game?
You can get past without picking locks and disarming traps
But I will say that persuasion is very nice
@@lanceholder7794 not really thievery is probably the most important civ perk 😂
@@artemis5265 I know you can complete the game without picking locks because there will be a way to open almost all locks without picking
Почему бастардс ? Это не совсем приличнон выражение в английском :(
Это не совсем так. В данном контексте это слово говорится как бы в шутку и совершенно безобидно. Специфика языка такая, все от контекста зависит.
Play dead, blocking doorways and ladders.
Video: Alright you gaming bastards,...
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This game is so hard 🤬🤬
I don't understand why anyone would EVER want to take the shadowblade preset and I also don't see many reasons to take the ranger preset.
The only thing a preset really defines what weapons you find in the chest in the registration room on the ship in the first area of the game.
A shadowblade gets one dagger. If you take the rogue preset you get two daggers and you can change stats, combat/civil abilities and skills to a "shadowblade" anyway. Two daggers are simply superior to one. Even if you want to use sucker punch, you can just drop the second dagger in combat which costs zero AP. And even if you want to use only one dagger for whatever reason, you can still sell the second one.
A ranger gets a bow. If you take the Wayfarer, you get a crossbow which deals more damage at the expense of movement and you change stats, combat/civil abilities and skills to a "ranger" anyway. In my opinion this trade off is worth it as ranged characters do not need to move much in combat and damage is by far the most important thing.
+neltymind
Im talking about party combos. Its much better choice to have origins character that you meet take shadowblade because they have immediately access to chicken claw and chameleon cloak.
Second dagger is so easy to find that its not even worth mentioning.
Isnt it much better for new party member to get one more dagger then spend lots of money (in first region money is relatively scarce) to get 2 or 3 new skills?
You might be right about custom preset but the difference is so minimal that i cant comprehend why anyone would even go there.
Same goes for ranger wayfarer.
If you choose some1 to go with wayfarer youre stuck with a bad preset and skills you might not use and +1 to Int that you dont need in a physical dmg party.
Ranger preset is much more straightforward and useful. Especially if you already have cleric with geo as suggested in the video.
Im not saying youre wrong. Youre not because everything works if done right but to go ahead and claim that you cant understand why anyone would go ranger or shadowblade preset, be it custom or on a new party member, is such a pretentious statement. Not to say unbelievably nitpicky.
I honestly prefer to start as a ranger over wayfarer because I would rather start with a knockdown arrow instead of a poison arrow in my inventory (especially since antlers are harder to come by in Act 1 than poison). The bow you begin with will quickly be replaced anyway when you hit level 2.
Zero gameplay. Thanks.