I have yet to be disappointed by the PSVR 2. Sony is winding up to show their plans for the headset. This is just the beginning. I can't wait for hybrid games!
One of the better reviews I have seen for the PS VR2. I think the PS VR2 controllers are better than any other I have tried. Not just because of the amazing haptics and resistive triggers. I think they are the most comfortable to hold / use with no after-market accessory needed to improve the controller handle (like Quest 2 controllers which are too short). They also have great button placement and quality thumbsticks, and I greatly prefer the grip buttons on the VR2 Sense controllers over the quest. I never liked the Quest 2 controllers loud clacking grip buttons and the awkward way you have to hold the controller to avoid pressing button unintentionally. So much, that most of the games I play on Quest 2, don't register / use those grip buttons (or expect that you mostly have them pressed). The battery life of the VR2 Sense controllers is short, but I have charging station that I put them on when not playing, and I don't play any VR game (other than GT7 with racing wheel) longer than 2-3 hours, so it has not been a problem for me.
I truly believe people's expectations aren't realistic when it comes to vr. I started with psvr1, quest, quest-pc, reverb-pc then psvr2. The psvr2 is by far the most used headset I have had, of course it's not perfect but what is in the niche market? As for the price...well we are all getting fucked over for everything these days, I don't for one second think sony is ever going to be the first that is going to give us all a break. If I had to keep only one of my psvr2 or pc set up then it's the psvr2 hands down.
Man this was the best important gripes on the psvr2 video I've watched. Channels have been making the same gripes over and over. You made a legit psvr2 new video with new information and perspective! Bravo best psvr2 video I'm watched hands down.
Really indepth and considered review, rather than some of the others I have seen that just say one sucks and none of the technical info on why. Great job.
Did you go through your display options? You have to turn off the hhd option with the headset unplugged, then plug the headset in and go adjust the display options on the vr. Then go back and enable the hhd on your main display settings. Helped out a lot! Also the tracking assist.
I love this headset so much but there’s one thing that does annoy me though, that being the weight around your nose. Everyone I’ve seen use this headset always has marks on their nose after taking it off (including me).
Very good and fair review. My biggest issue with the PSVR2 is the comfort of it. I cannot wear it longer than 20-30 minutes at a time as my forehead starts to ache. I've watched all the videos and read all the guides on how to "properly" put on the PSVR2 but for some reason (maybe shape of my head) it is so uncomfortable for me. I wish there was more padding in the front. I owned/loved the PSVR 1 and could use it for hours without issue.
Thanks for checking out the video and for your comment. That sucks that the headband is so uncomfortable to you. I get what you mean. I tried several different head bands for the Quest 2 and there was one in particular that gave me a headache to wear. Takes all the fun out of playing games real quick when it hurts your head. I hope you'll find a good solution. Best of luck to you.
Ahen it comes to the wire i really dont see the complaint i prefer to use the analogue sticks to turn so i dokt end up leaving my play space and just have the cable slung over a chair behind me and i completly forget its there
thats the best demonstration of mura i have seen. Pretty much nails the visuals of it. I think the PS5 still could use a bit more horsepower, althought foveated helps a lot for sure - if many devs would not ignore it (propably because their engine needs recoding for that feature). About the brightness: Many also get headeaches or aching eyes at 100%. Usually they drop down between 50-75% - which looks still fine. Not a good decision to set it to 100% by default - especially for the eyetracking setup with the pure white background. Some kids i know simply closed their eyes there, because it was to painful for them to look at.
I don't get motion sick in vr on full brightness, and i love how bright it can get, guess I'm just lucky in that respect, the mura I don't even notice anymore, the reprojection is horrible on some games, can't get used to that. I also wish they had targeted 90fps or had a much better algorithm, also i took off the rubber light blocker, my skin's to sensitive, I also enjoy being able to see my phone while playing
Great in-depth review! I'm holding out for the Quest 3. Although I have a Quest 2, I'm really looking forward to the Quest 3's lighter design, higher resolution, and better controllers with cameras on them (hopefully). I mostly play PCVR, but the those new Pancake lenses theoretically should make the image quality better, since you won't have to render above the native resolution to compensate for distortion, like you need to on Quest 2 Fresnel lenses.
@@Maraksot78 Oops I made a typo which I edited and fixed. It is the Fresnel lenses that cause distortion when is why you need to render at 2736p to get a native image. In theory, the pancake lenses shouldn't cause distortion like that which is why I am hoping that the image clarity is higher based on the resolution you set in the Oculus software.
@@patb3356 That's some very interesting info, I didn't know it was the Fresnel lenses that caused that, I always thought it was something unavoidable because of the nature of VR, so imagine that, having those new lenses + eye-tracked foveated rendering on PC it would make the performance requirement orders of magnitude lower and of course could make standalone have even more quality. I could see people running high-end PCVR games at 120Hz with 4060s and RX 7600s with no problems, that's a future I would like to see :)
The only gunstock I know of that works with the Pico 4 and has recoil is the ProTube with their ForceTube add on. But then again I don't know if the ForceTube works with the Pico4. 🤷♂️
Roy , 👋 Have you compared the first part with the second in terms of graphics on Psvr2? I play the first one, the second included only up to the menu and therefore it is interesting to know your opinion.
Coming from VIVE that makes you feel like you taken a bad acid after 30 min gaming, this one is a revolution, no sick, the real down side is lack of games. One of the best games very underated is townsmen vr, dungeon keeper feel to it.
I had the PSVR with my PS$ Pro and never got motion sickness no matter what I played, with the PSVR2 for the first time I got motion sickness while playing No Man's Sky. 🤔
Sony should really do something about the graphics of the headset, it states 4K on the box which it isn't, it's more like 720p at best, for the price of over $900 Australian it definetly need a graphics upgrade big time. As he mentions at 2.45, it's definetly misleading.
The headset is capable of displaying high resolution graphics, the problem is the PS5 isn't powerful enough to deliver them. 4K 30 to 60 fps on a TV is one thing, but 2000 X 2040 PER EYE, for a total of 4000 X 2040 (4K is 3840X2160), at 90 or 120fps; it just doesn't have the power to do that, so they have to down grade the resolution AND use reprojection to make it happen. The only game I've played so far on PSVR2 that lets you see how good games can look on it is Red Matter 2. I was blown away with how good it looks. Not to mention the devs were even able to get it to run at 120fps! It's very impressive, I just hope other game devs will learn from them and bring some much higher quality games to the PSVR2.
Looks like SONY needs to go talk to LG. Mura can be fixed by calibrating pixel brightness individually so they all match (lowest common denominator sort of thing). The exact science/engineer method, ask LG. FSR3.0 will be a better solution then re-projection for many games, when and if it becomes a thing. There is also CAS sharpening that should be used to crisp up the image. UNFORTUNATELY consoles don't allow customization of graphics or modding of filters in games... such is console gaming.
Yes, I hope Sony is considering a revised version previous to the PS5 Pro launch, or perhaps launches other alternatives to the OLED-screen version. It would generate extra interest and publicity.
Well that all really depends on the specs of your PC and the game you're playing. Depending on how powerful your PC is the PS5 will either be more or less powerful and deliver better or worse visuals than you can get on PC. As for me I have a RTX 3080ti and I can run most any VR game at 4704 x 2384 at, at least 90Hz, so games like Half Life Alyx and Lone Echo look much sharper and clearer on my Quest 2 via a Link cable or AirLink with my PC than a game like Horizon Call of the Mountain looks on the PS5 and PS VR2. If you have an RX 580, GTX 1060 or GTX 1650 or something however, then I think the PS5 is going to deliver better visuals than those cards can. On top of all that it's going to depend on each individual game as well. Games like Beat Saber can run at high detail settings and looks fantastic on much lower end hardware than a game like Lone Echo or Half Life Alyx, so for games that aren't as visually detailed as Call of the Mountain they'll run great on the PS5/PS VR2 and look great as well.
I like it and it perfect for the ps5. I own a quest 2 and a gaming pc. It’s to much! You have to make sure your spec is up to date and mess around with it. Psvr2 I can just plug and play
In the short term, I'm hoping that the Quest 3 will be a decent improvement. Long term, I'm excited to see the quality of the Pimax Crystal and the comfort of the Bigscreen Beyond come down in price and strong video cards getting cheaper. I'm not a console gamer, so the PSVR2 just isn't for me.
I'm excited for the Quest 3 as well. Trying not to get my hopes up too much though. The Quest 2 has really impressed me from the beginning but I think that in part has to do with the fact it was $299 when I bought mine and with other headsets being upward of $1000 my expectations weren't super high. Needless to say the Quest 2 exceeded my expectations so now my hopes for the Quest 3 might be a little higher than they probably should be. 😅 I'm hoping for higher resolution, larger FOV and of course more stand alone power. Eye tracking would be cool but I think Meta has already said it won't have eye tracking. I'm looking forward to trying out some pancake lenses though. I haven't used a headset that has them yet.
@@Maraksot78 I think if VR wants to become popular, they need to think about more usability than increase specs. Like having more comfortable headset, more games. Easy to set up. Less hot, more battery life
As coming from a psvr 1 to be honest the showcase psvr2 games look good and I know there’s the haptics and clear screen resolution and better controllers but when I compare the best psvr1 games like rush of blood, astrobot, blood and truth , Moss , Batman , wipeout omega, xing land beyond etc I don’t really see that much of a graphical upgrade to the other games the psvr2 has on offer other than the handful of showcase games that it has at the moment . Then there’s the fact it’s still tethered , no backwards psvr1 compatibility and the field of view is only slightly bigger (which is a thing that bugged my on the psvr1) and then there’s the reprojection and mura effects and small sweet spot . Not really worth the 1k (inc the ps5) to buy right now but better to wait and see what new titles come out and possibly buy a used one in a year or two. There’s also the quest 3 and index 2 coming so let’s see what they have to offer . Cheers
Kinda reminds me of the Switch. I like the hardware of both Switch and psvr2 but I don’t wanna be locked into their ecosystem. I’m cautious with my purchases on ps5 & SX because I know I’ll be building a mid range Rig someday. VR shines more on pc imo because it’s not a walled garden.
Headset sweet spot finding issues are eliminated once you buy headstrap with weights on the back. Mura can be fixed mostly with green tinted lense inserts. The blurryness is caused mostly by games not using foveated rendering, or using reprojection. (Hardware can run it games withiut repro, its the sacrifice developers made to get thier games out quickly, faster than optimizing that was needed, but the software is where the issue was). Coming from a purely ps5 console vr gamer, don't own a pc, the only issue with psvr2 I have found is: requirement to buy post market headstrap for it to be comfortable especially if your eyes are close together. And the lack of battery life in the controllers. 3 to 4 hours charge is not enough for an actual gamer, and right now we can't buy another pair, you were 100% on that. I hope they sell them individually and with larger batteries in them.
It's not the sweet-spot size as much as it is the headset keeps sliding around on my head. Need to put some tacky spray on my hair I guess lol. Also I do not like the mura, but I can ignore it.
I can't play Horizon as I get motion sickness I played it on lunch day and it was OK for the 1st 10mins and then I just felt sick and Resident Evil does the samething I notice mura on Resident Evil Village but not any other games I have and the graphics top notch especially Kayak Mirage
Have you tried turning the headsets brightness down? When I first used the PS VR2 it made me motion sick too. It was then I learned about frame persistence and that if you turn the PS VR2's brightness down to zero it changes the frame persistence to be about the same as other VR headsets on the market and doesn't make you motion sick as easy.
@@Maraksot78 nah I think it’s a re projection issue that makes me feel sick as I’m absolutely fine in games that don’t use it like runner, after the fall, walking dead chapter 1, zombieland reloaded etc but I heard something about some people getting headsets that had manufacturering issues like glue behind the lenses which was causing permanent blurring and people having to return their units because if it
You mentioned all my gripes with the PSVR2, I really have nothing else to add about it, you did an amazing review! I don't own one since I don't have a PS5 but a friend does so I spent quite a lot of time with it and I think the hardware is amazing, Sony hasn't made hardware this good in way over a decade imo, even though Sony used to be king of amazing well designed hardware 30-20 years ago. The biggest flaw for ME is that you can't use it with a PC lol, I'm not a console gamer anymore, the PS3 was my last console in 2007 and I'm not going back ever again because I love PC, is it my platform and it is superior to anything else imo and I will die on this hill, I would rather buy an expensive GPU than a PS5 any day of the week. Sony used to make hardware for PCs and laptops back in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s but they stopped after the PS2, the PSVR2 shows that they still got it, I really wish they would go back to just being a great hardware manufacturer and not just being obsessed with PlayStation and exclusives and making that their bread and butter and biggest revenue stream, they used to be as big or even bigger as Samsung, LG etc and look at 'em now, the PSVR2 could've been their chance to go back to that and sell millions in hardware because the PSVR2 is that good and imo is the best most affordable headset in the market right now, put more exclusive PS5 games on PC including VR ones, heck make your own store if you want to! and make bank but nah, gotta keep milking the PlayStation cow and leaving money on the table and everyone else out. Kinda sad, at least I know Meta will hit back with the Quest 3 this year and Valve is working on their own stuff so there's hope for PCVR gamers like myself.
I too am a PC guy. PC definitely has it's headaches but when it comes to getting the best experience possible, it's PC all the way IMO. I too would rather spend stupid amounts of money on a GPU than game on a console. In fact I'm itching to get a RTX 4090, gotta save up for a bit though. 😂 I really wish there was a way to use the PS VR2 with a PC because I'd like to actually use the headsets full capabilities. 2000 X 2040 pixels per eye at 120 or even 90Hz on those OLED screens would be pretty epic... minus the mura of course. Who knows, maybe some modders will figure out a way to get the PS VR2 to work with a PC. I have to imagine it's possible, you'd just need the right software application on your PC to make it work I assume.
@@Maraksot78 Oh yeah definitely agree PC is certainly not plug-and-play and headache-free, that's a huge advantage that consoles and the PSVR2 has but I think PC will get there at some point with the obvious benefit of still having the power to thinker and modify things as you see fit to improve the experience if you want. 😅I'm saving for a 4090 too, the 4090 is just leagues ahead of everything else in VR that even a 4080 pales in comparison, I just wish it wasn't so expensive y'know, we're getting close to a point where we might need to take loans just to buy GPUs 🤣 I'd would really love to see what the PSVR2 is capable on powerful hardware, I think not even the 4090 could deliver enough performance for the full PSVR2 4000x2040@120Hz resolution but perhaps at 90Hz and with eye-tracked foveated rendering we could get there! or maybe with the 5000 series, is exciting to think about it, too bad Sony won't do it.. I bet they locked down the hardware big time to make it as hard as possible to hack and make it work on PC but like you said maybe some crazy fella out there might do it someday but I doubt the results will be perfect and by the time someone manages it the Quest 3 will be out. I just hope Meta can fix the mura as much as possible and implement eye-tracking and foveated rendering on PC, there's no way I will use a headset without that in the future!
1. Sony are seeing this as an accessory, And as such need to make profit on every piece of hardware so the venture is not a gamble. Its not like the a console where it can be sold cheaply to recoup profit later on with software. Same with PC heqdsets. Those manufacturers need immediate profit. Meta on the other hand are selling at little to no profit, and will get the money back on software. 2. There are 3 types of VR. Wireless, standalone and wired. All have their drawback. Wireless has latency and picture quality issues. Standalone is underpowered, and wired is obviously annoying. Personally Id chose the cable, but it would be nice if we had the choice of wireless or wired. Theres no such thing as a perfect headset yet, but PSVR2 is easily the best, even when compared to Quest3
I've been saying for as long as the PSVR2 specs were announced, that (given my experience with a Reverb G2 and a 6600XT), that the PS5 was simply not powerful enough to run the PSVR2 as it was designed. So it really comes at no surprise to find that the games are often running at lower resolutions, in reprojection mode, and with rather aggressive foveated rendering on top. On the plus side, there's quite a bit of headroom for visual improvements should Sony make a mid-gen refresh console like the PS4Pro. On the downside, if you're already invested into PSVR2, you're gonna have to buy a whole new console.
Most of my gripes with the PS VR2 are actually pretty minor and for people that haven't experienced high resolution/high refresh rate PC VR they won't know any different so the reprojection and slight blurriness from the lower than native render resolution probably won't be an issue for them as they won't know any different. If this was a PC VR headset, my biggest complaints would be the mura, which actually doesn't bother me that much, and the frame persistence issue. You can fix the frame persistence by lowering the headset brightness but I didn't talk about that in this video because my previous video was dedicated to that issue. Overall, I really do think the PS VR2 is a good VR headset. I had a lot of fun with it and compared to stand alone Quest 2 games, the graphics are WAAAAAYYYY better. It's just me coming from PC VR, based on it's specs, it's clear to me the headset is capable of much more than the PS5 hardware can deliver. At $550 I think this headset would be a banger if it was compatible with PC.
@PSVR2GOOD I was a little disappointed too because of all the hype, but I'm reviewing Red Matter 2 for the PSVR2 right now and... I'm not allowed to say much because the game doesn't come out until the 18th but 😳🤯
@@Maraksot78 I look forward to your review. Great honest review of the headset! 1 other thing I didn't like was that PSVR2 will not play any 3d video unlike psvr1 that would play most 3d video, blueray CZcams etc.
Sent my vr2 back as foveated rendering didn’t work at all only sharpened right in front not where I looked plus headset tracking rubbish on every game drifted all over the place no matter how room was lite ,my quest2 never tracked strange ever even with dark room not happy as loved first psvr1 and went to quest2 as a upgrade but thought the psvr2 would be another step up but lol nooooo wish I hadn’t sold my quest now booooo
This is what I understand, honestly and frankly, without cuts and in fact. These Fresnel lenses with a really small sweetspot, plus you feel that the picture is not clear enough, it does not render at full strength. This helmet needs a more powerful console, namely the Ps5 Pro. It is interesting to know how Pico 4 is visually sharper? And Re Village, you don't feel well after it. What is this accessory that makes you uncomfortable? You pay money for a good impression, not for a good impression and feeling bad and not being clear enough. I tried to play flat games in this helmet and due to the fact that the clarity is only in the center and it is not the same as if I look at my TV with my eyes, then I look to the side and I'm a mess, God ... How can I enjoy this , and the money they ask is not small. I hope that the Chinese will figure out how to replace these lenses with better ones.
If sony is not going to update the games with new AAA titles and we will be stuck with 50 games, nobody will buy ps vr ever again (Sony, I hope you read this).
After you play wireless in Quest 2 anything else is unacceptable, I remember playing my Oculus CV1 and that wire was so annoying it ruined the experience plus you cannot move without care or you risk destroying the headset, and the price is a even bigger deal breaker.
I won’t buy it until it has social media apps. CZcams VR, other apps, VR web browser etc. If it can’t do more things than just games available in other platforms I’ll just wait for Quest 3.
What was the last video you made where you front loaded the video with exaggerated bad news? I haven’t had or heard of nearly any actual cases of real nausea with PSVR2. Why not just say you’re biased and prefer facebook mobile VR where sub-90fps games had been the standard until recently and/or PCVR where the actual high end games are few and far between as the current standard is Quest quality for all of VR… Basically the Quest standard, the clearest Switch grade graphics, has become the all around for standard virtually all VR game development, but Mura is your problem? PSVR2 does an exceptional job of splitting the difference between Quest and PCVR in most respects and outperforms both in some ways particularly for people with modest PC builds. (most gaming PC owners.) PSVR2, like PCVR is just currently hog tied to the Quest standard for most of the games released on it. The pop-in you spoke of in Horizon is an error that has had various iterations throughout gaming history. While pop-in is notable it really shouldn’t prominent enough throughout the game be viewed as a game demerit this many years later with the alternate standard being like Gorilla Tag. I’ll take 20 Horizon games, warts and all, over the bare minimum Gorilla Tag/Boneworks standard that’s deemed oh so appealing by many PCVR/Quest enthusiasts constantly hurling passive aggressive criticism at PSVR2. I suspect most of the audience feels the same way, which is why VR hasn’t taken off. I can only hope that the next PlayStation CEO unties that hands of enough developers to port copious numbers of games from their illustrious back catalogue of flat games to PSVR2. (Infamous, Resistance, Motorstorm etc.) When Wipeout took about a month to port for less than 3 devs and Borderlands 2 took a little over a month to port for about 3 devs for PSVR1 it’s clear PSVR2 has an alternate path from what’s currently available exclusively and PSVR2 could have a substantially larger library of the highest caliber of games for gamers of any other option in under 2 years.
PSVR 2 is inexpensive even compared to Quest 2. Quest 2 has a ton of hidden cost because it is imbalanced and underpadded; it has short battery life; it has bad audio; it is super eye glasses unfriendly, ... People end up spending a ton of money upgrading Quest 2 to make it work. AND yet it is using outdated technology. Whoever says PSVR 2 is overpriced really do understand the new VR technology in PSVR 2. And Sony wasn't sure whether it is able to make 2 million headset this year. That's why it was restricting its supply in the US until very recently. What poor decision has Sony made? The problem is not PSVR 2 but PS5. There are not too many PS5 around because of the pandemic. PS5 sales jumped very recently because of its improvement in production. AND PS5 is really not powerful enough to run the full power of PSVR 2. Just look at GT7. Its graphics is much downgraded. You need a PS6 to run GT7 on PSVR 2. Whoever says Sony is making poor decisions really doesn't understand all the problems behind PSVR 2.
Not really, even if we add everything, The quest 2 300€, a better headstrap 30€, a decent pair of headphones 20€, better head cover 20€, and i guess some active straps? Which is like 20€, thats a whopping 390€, not bad and the battery isn't that much of a con, itd around 2 hours and ngl, its best that it's 2 hours so you have to take it off and wait, because vr does cause long term eye issues
@@aregulargenericname8794 Bad image quality, color distortion (too red), very dark, highly uncomfortable even with whatever headstrap cause the side plastic cause problem with my cheek bone and it presses against my eye glasses, seriously front loaded and imbalanced, underpadded, poor sound quality, short play time even with battery pack, .. Quest 2 is 2 generations behind PSVR 2. There is no eye tracking, no controller haptic, not head haptic, not adaptive trigger, ... I have already stopped using my Quest 2 for at least a year.
Hands down the best, most technical, unfiltered, concise, honest review by FAR. Keep it up! You deserve more describers and views!
I have yet to be disappointed by the PSVR 2. Sony is winding up to show their plans for the headset. This is just the beginning. I can't wait for hybrid games!
The same
HYBRID VR HYPE 😎
Still waiting on those plans Sony
One of the better reviews I have seen for the PS VR2. I think the PS VR2 controllers are better than any other I have tried. Not just because of the amazing haptics and resistive triggers. I think they are the most comfortable to hold / use with no after-market accessory needed to improve the controller handle (like Quest 2 controllers which are too short). They also have great button placement and quality thumbsticks, and I greatly prefer the grip buttons on the VR2 Sense controllers over the quest. I never liked the Quest 2 controllers loud clacking grip buttons and the awkward way you have to hold the controller to avoid pressing button unintentionally. So much, that most of the games I play on Quest 2, don't register / use those grip buttons (or expect that you mostly have them pressed).
The battery life of the VR2 Sense controllers is short, but I have charging station that I put them on when not playing, and I don't play any VR game (other than GT7 with racing wheel) longer than 2-3 hours, so it has not been a problem for me.
Same Here mate
Soon we can buy VR2 Sense separately 😎😁
I truly believe people's expectations aren't realistic when it comes to vr. I started with psvr1, quest, quest-pc, reverb-pc then psvr2. The psvr2 is by far the most used headset I have had, of course it's not perfect but what is in the niche market? As for the price...well we are all getting fucked over for everything these days, I don't for one second think sony is ever going to be the first that is going to give us all a break. If I had to keep only one of my psvr2 or pc set up then it's the psvr2 hands down.
What games do you play besides RE and Gran Turismo????
My brother he had fair criticism
It works with RX 7000 and RTX 2000 (although way slower) series if your card includes a usb-c port.
Man this was the best important gripes on the psvr2 video I've watched. Channels have been making the same gripes over and over. You made a legit psvr2 new video with new information and perspective! Bravo best psvr2 video I'm watched hands down.
Wow! Thank you. I just call it the way I see it. 😅
Really indepth and considered review, rather than some of the others I have seen that just say one sucks and none of the technical info on why. Great job.
Thanks J! I appreciate you taking the time to give the video a look. Cheers! 😁👍
Did you go through your display options? You have to turn off the hhd option with the headset unplugged, then plug the headset in and go adjust the display options on the vr. Then go back and enable the hhd on your main display settings. Helped out a lot! Also the tracking assist.
Hhd??
Kudos for the Mura extra effort .. i was like - how did this guy managed to catch the mura so well.
I love this headset so much but there’s one thing that does annoy me though, that being the weight around your nose. Everyone I’ve seen use this headset always has marks on their nose after taking it off (including me).
Get the Globular Cluster CMP2 comfort mod. It takes all the weight off of your face
Some great points there. Best detailed review to date for me 👍🏼
Very good and fair review. My biggest issue with the PSVR2 is the comfort of it. I cannot wear it longer than 20-30 minutes at a time as my forehead starts to ache. I've watched all the videos and read all the guides on how to "properly" put on the PSVR2 but for some reason (maybe shape of my head) it is so uncomfortable for me. I wish there was more padding in the front. I owned/loved the PSVR 1 and could use it for hours without issue.
Thanks for checking out the video and for your comment. That sucks that the headband is so uncomfortable to you. I get what you mean. I tried several different head bands for the Quest 2 and there was one in particular that gave me a headache to wear. Takes all the fun out of playing games real quick when it hurts your head. I hope you'll find a good solution. Best of luck to you.
Try wearing a head band that's for working out or tennis 🎾
Ahen it comes to the wire i really dont see the complaint i prefer to use the analogue sticks to turn so i dokt end up leaving my play space and just have the cable slung over a chair behind me and i completly forget its there
thats the best demonstration of mura i have seen. Pretty much nails the visuals of it. I think the PS5 still could use a bit more horsepower, althought foveated helps a lot for sure - if many devs would not ignore it (propably because their engine needs recoding for that feature). About the brightness: Many also get headeaches or aching eyes at 100%. Usually they drop down between 50-75% - which looks still fine. Not a good decision to set it to 100% by default - especially for the eyetracking setup with the pure white background. Some kids i know simply closed their eyes there, because it was to painful for them to look at.
I don't get motion sick in vr on full brightness, and i love how bright it can get, guess I'm just lucky in that respect, the mura I don't even notice anymore, the reprojection is horrible on some games, can't get used to that. I also wish they had targeted 90fps or had a much better algorithm, also i took off the rubber light blocker, my skin's to sensitive, I also enjoy being able to see my phone while playing
Thank you for this review. I've been sort of on the fence about this, but since I have a PS5 and no gaming PC, I've decided I'm going for it.
I know I had a fair number or gripes about the PS VR2 in this video, but I really do think it's a good VR system, I think you'll enjoy it. 🙂
Trust me bud it’s not as good as u my think…. Mine has gone back
I have one and I love it! Get Pavlov and Resident evil with that shit. Or maybe gt7.
Among the reviews of PSVR2, yours is the best.
Thank you very much, you saying that means a lot. 😀👍
This is the most honest PSVR2 review yet :)
Great in-depth review! I'm holding out for the Quest 3. Although I have a Quest 2, I'm really looking forward to the Quest 3's lighter design, higher resolution, and better controllers with cameras on them (hopefully). I mostly play PCVR, but the those new Pancake lenses theoretically should make the image quality better, since you won't have to render above the native resolution to compensate for distortion, like you need to on Quest 2 Fresnel lenses.
I'm looking forward to the Quest 3 as well. I haven't tried any headsets yet that use pancake lenses but I'm very eager to.
@@Maraksot78 Oops I made a typo which I edited and fixed. It is the Fresnel lenses that cause distortion when is why you need to render at 2736p to get a native image. In theory, the pancake lenses shouldn't cause distortion like that which is why I am hoping that the image clarity is higher based on the resolution you set in the Oculus software.
@@patb3356 That's some very interesting info, I didn't know it was the Fresnel lenses that caused that, I always thought it was something unavoidable because of the nature of VR, so imagine that, having those new lenses + eye-tracked foveated rendering on PC it would make the performance requirement orders of magnitude lower and of course could make standalone have even more quality. I could see people running high-end PCVR games at 120Hz with 4060s and RX 7600s with no problems, that's a future I would like to see :)
thanks for the honest review. hopefully a good pc vr wired headset can be released soon.
Hi I'm looking for a gun stock with recoil for pico 4 , what do you recommend?
The only gunstock I know of that works with the Pico 4 and has recoil is the ProTube with their ForceTube add on. But then again I don't know if the ForceTube works with the Pico4. 🤷♂️
Great review 👏 thankyou for mentioning the negatives that no1 else does
I had to my old vive strap to hold the headset up
Have you play TWD Retribution? The resolution is very sharp on PSVR2.
I haven't yet. I'll have to give it a look.
Roy , 👋
Have you compared the first part with the second in terms of graphics on Psvr2? I play the first one, the second included only up to the menu and therefore it is interesting to know your opinion.
@@Rostovgenchik I've only played the second game on PSVR2. I played the first game on Quest 2.
@5:20 what part of alyx is that!??? is it a mod??
It's toward the end of the campaign. It's right after the Vortigaunts disconnect the power from the vault.
clean clear review
Coming from VIVE that makes you feel like you taken a bad acid after 30 min gaming, this one is a revolution, no sick, the real down side is lack of games. One of the best games very underated is townsmen vr, dungeon keeper feel to it.
I had the PSVR with my PS$ Pro and never got motion sickness no matter what I played, with the PSVR2 for the first time I got motion sickness while playing No Man's Sky. 🤔
Mura: use a pair if polarised sun glasses and the mure disappears completely
I’m praying Sony adds supports for steam vr for the headset
I don't know that Sony will do it but I hope some modders will figure it out. 😀
Why would Sony add support to a rival platform? Sony are in the market to make money and if you want the tech you have to buy a PS5.
Sony's console ecosystem is its bread and butter
Turn the bright down on your headset and it’s way better
Is a TV required to set it up?
Yes, you'll need your PS5 to be connected to a TV for the initial setup of the PSVR2 but after that, a TV is no longer required.
🎶in living colour🎶
Sony should really do something about the graphics of the headset, it states 4K on the box which it isn't, it's more like 720p at best, for the price of over $900 Australian it definetly need a graphics upgrade big time. As he mentions at 2.45, it's definetly misleading.
The headset is capable of displaying high resolution graphics, the problem is the PS5 isn't powerful enough to deliver them. 4K 30 to 60 fps on a TV is one thing, but 2000 X 2040 PER EYE, for a total of 4000 X 2040 (4K is 3840X2160), at 90 or 120fps; it just doesn't have the power to do that, so they have to down grade the resolution AND use reprojection to make it happen. The only game I've played so far on PSVR2 that lets you see how good games can look on it is Red Matter 2. I was blown away with how good it looks. Not to mention the devs were even able to get it to run at 120fps! It's very impressive, I just hope other game devs will learn from them and bring some much higher quality games to the PSVR2.
Looks like SONY needs to go talk to LG. Mura can be fixed by calibrating pixel brightness individually so they all match (lowest common denominator sort of thing). The exact science/engineer method, ask LG.
FSR3.0 will be a better solution then re-projection for many games, when and if it becomes a thing.
There is also CAS sharpening that should be used to crisp up the image. UNFORTUNATELY consoles don't allow customization of graphics or modding of filters in games... such is console gaming.
Yes, I hope Sony is considering a revised version previous to the PS5 Pro launch, or perhaps launches other alternatives to the OLED-screen version. It would generate extra interest and publicity.
How are graphics compared to pc vr ? Some people say psvr 2 graphics looks better cuz its better optimized
Well that all really depends on the specs of your PC and the game you're playing.
Depending on how powerful your PC is the PS5 will either be more or less powerful and deliver better or worse visuals than you can get on PC. As for me I have a RTX 3080ti and I can run most any VR game at 4704 x 2384 at, at least 90Hz, so games like Half Life Alyx and Lone Echo look much sharper and clearer on my Quest 2 via a Link cable or AirLink with my PC than a game like Horizon Call of the Mountain looks on the PS5 and PS VR2. If you have an RX 580, GTX 1060 or GTX 1650 or something however, then I think the PS5 is going to deliver better visuals than those cards can.
On top of all that it's going to depend on each individual game as well. Games like Beat Saber can run at high detail settings and looks fantastic on much lower end hardware than a game like Lone Echo or Half Life Alyx, so for games that aren't as visually detailed as Call of the Mountain they'll run great on the PS5/PS VR2 and look great as well.
I like it and it perfect for the ps5. I own a quest 2 and a gaming pc. It’s to much! You have to make sure your spec is up to date and mess around with it. Psvr2 I can just plug and play
Facts...and the graphics look good
In the short term, I'm hoping that the Quest 3 will be a decent improvement. Long term, I'm excited to see the quality of the Pimax Crystal and the comfort of the Bigscreen Beyond come down in price and strong video cards getting cheaper.
I'm not a console gamer, so the PSVR2 just isn't for me.
I'm excited for the Quest 3 as well. Trying not to get my hopes up too much though. The Quest 2 has really impressed me from the beginning but I think that in part has to do with the fact it was $299 when I bought mine and with other headsets being upward of $1000 my expectations weren't super high. Needless to say the Quest 2 exceeded my expectations so now my hopes for the Quest 3 might be a little higher than they probably should be. 😅 I'm hoping for higher resolution, larger FOV and of course more stand alone power. Eye tracking would be cool but I think Meta has already said it won't have eye tracking. I'm looking forward to trying out some pancake lenses though. I haven't used a headset that has them yet.
@@Maraksot78 I think if VR wants to become popular, they need to think about more usability than increase specs.
Like having more comfortable headset, more games. Easy to set up. Less hot, more battery life
As coming from a psvr 1 to be honest the showcase psvr2 games look good and I know there’s the haptics and clear screen resolution and better controllers but when I compare the best psvr1 games like rush of blood, astrobot, blood and truth , Moss , Batman , wipeout omega, xing land beyond etc I don’t really see that much of a graphical upgrade to the other games the psvr2 has on offer other than the handful of showcase games that it has at the moment . Then there’s the fact it’s still tethered , no backwards psvr1 compatibility and the field of view is only slightly bigger (which is a thing that bugged my on the psvr1) and then there’s the reprojection and mura effects and small sweet spot . Not really worth the 1k (inc the ps5) to buy right now but better to wait and see what new titles come out and possibly buy a used one in a year or two. There’s also the quest 3 and index 2 coming so let’s see what they have to offer . Cheers
Kinda reminds me of the Switch. I like the hardware of both Switch and psvr2 but I don’t wanna be locked into their ecosystem. I’m cautious with my purchases on ps5 & SX because I know I’ll be building a mid range Rig someday. VR shines more on pc imo because it’s not a walled garden.
Werid I haven’t felt any sickness at 100 percent brightness
Headset sweet spot finding issues are eliminated once you buy headstrap with weights on the back. Mura can be fixed mostly with green tinted lense inserts. The blurryness is caused mostly by games not using foveated rendering, or using reprojection. (Hardware can run it games withiut repro, its the sacrifice developers made to get thier games out quickly, faster than optimizing that was needed, but the software is where the issue was). Coming from a purely ps5 console vr gamer, don't own a pc, the only issue with psvr2 I have found is: requirement to buy post market headstrap for it to be comfortable especially if your eyes are close together. And the lack of battery life in the controllers. 3 to 4 hours charge is not enough for an actual gamer, and right now we can't buy another pair, you were 100% on that. I hope they sell them individually and with larger batteries in them.
Do you have any green tinted lens options? I can't find any
@@Rudeskie hasn't bothered me enough to need em honestly
We need more physical games.
It's not the sweet-spot size as much as it is the headset keeps sliding around on my head. Need to put some tacky spray on my hair I guess lol. Also I do not like the mura, but I can ignore it.
The whole mura lottery is just bullcrap. They should of taken extra care and time to make sure its always the same and not so noticeable.
I can't play Horizon as I get motion sickness I played it on lunch day and it was OK for the 1st 10mins and then I just felt sick and Resident Evil does the samething I notice mura on Resident Evil Village but not any other games I have and the graphics top notch especially Kayak Mirage
Have you tried turning the headsets brightness down? When I first used the PS VR2 it made me motion sick too. It was then I learned about frame persistence and that if you turn the PS VR2's brightness down to zero it changes the frame persistence to be about the same as other VR headsets on the market and doesn't make you motion sick as easy.
@@Maraksot78 nah I think it’s a re projection issue that makes me feel sick as I’m absolutely fine in games that don’t use it like runner, after the fall, walking dead chapter 1, zombieland reloaded etc but I heard something about some people getting headsets that had manufacturering issues like glue behind the lenses which was causing permanent blurring and people having to return their units because if it
You mentioned all my gripes with the PSVR2, I really have nothing else to add about it, you did an amazing review!
I don't own one since I don't have a PS5 but a friend does so I spent quite a lot of time with it and I think the hardware is amazing, Sony hasn't made hardware this good in way over a decade imo, even though Sony used to be king of amazing well designed hardware 30-20 years ago.
The biggest flaw for ME is that you can't use it with a PC lol, I'm not a console gamer anymore, the PS3 was my last console in 2007 and I'm not going back ever again because I love PC, is it my platform and it is superior to anything else imo and I will die on this hill, I would rather buy an expensive GPU than a PS5 any day of the week.
Sony used to make hardware for PCs and laptops back in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s but they stopped after the PS2, the PSVR2 shows that they still got it, I really wish they would go back to just being a great hardware manufacturer and not just being obsessed with PlayStation and exclusives and making that their bread and butter and biggest revenue stream, they used to be as big or even bigger as Samsung, LG etc and look at 'em now, the PSVR2 could've been their chance to go back to that and sell millions in hardware because the PSVR2 is that good and imo is the best most affordable headset in the market right now, put more exclusive PS5 games on PC including VR ones, heck make your own store if you want to! and make bank but nah, gotta keep milking the PlayStation cow and leaving money on the table and everyone else out. Kinda sad, at least I know Meta will hit back with the Quest 3 this year and Valve is working on their own stuff so there's hope for PCVR gamers like myself.
I too am a PC guy. PC definitely has it's headaches but when it comes to getting the best experience possible, it's PC all the way IMO. I too would rather spend stupid amounts of money on a GPU than game on a console. In fact I'm itching to get a RTX 4090, gotta save up for a bit though. 😂 I really wish there was a way to use the PS VR2 with a PC because I'd like to actually use the headsets full capabilities. 2000 X 2040 pixels per eye at 120 or even 90Hz on those OLED screens would be pretty epic... minus the mura of course. Who knows, maybe some modders will figure out a way to get the PS VR2 to work with a PC. I have to imagine it's possible, you'd just need the right software application on your PC to make it work I assume.
@@Maraksot78 Oh yeah definitely agree PC is certainly not plug-and-play and headache-free, that's a huge advantage that consoles and the PSVR2 has but I think PC will get there at some point with the obvious benefit of still having the power to thinker and modify things as you see fit to improve the experience if you want. 😅I'm saving for a 4090 too, the 4090 is just leagues ahead of everything else in VR that even a 4080 pales in comparison, I just wish it wasn't so expensive y'know, we're getting close to a point where we might need to take loans just to buy GPUs 🤣
I'd would really love to see what the PSVR2 is capable on powerful hardware, I think not even the 4090 could deliver enough performance for the full PSVR2 4000x2040@120Hz resolution but perhaps at 90Hz and with eye-tracked foveated rendering we could get there! or maybe with the 5000 series, is exciting to think about it, too bad Sony won't do it.. I bet they locked down the hardware big time to make it as hard as possible to hack and make it work on PC but like you said maybe some crazy fella out there might do it someday but I doubt the results will be perfect and by the time someone manages it the Quest 3 will be out. I just hope Meta can fix the mura as much as possible and implement eye-tracking and foveated rendering on PC, there's no way I will use a headset without that in the future!
Riggs for PSVR1 was the ONLY game in VR'S that made me Motion Sickness; everything else PSVR1 + PSVR2 has been Cool.
I do not have the same experiences no freakin way
1. Sony are seeing this as an accessory, And as such need to make profit on every piece of hardware so the venture is not a gamble. Its not like the a console where it can be sold cheaply to recoup profit later on with software. Same with PC heqdsets. Those manufacturers need immediate profit. Meta on the other hand are selling at little to no profit, and will get the money back on software.
2. There are 3 types of VR. Wireless, standalone and wired. All have their drawback.
Wireless has latency and picture quality issues.
Standalone is underpowered, and wired is obviously annoying. Personally Id chose the cable, but it would be nice if we had the choice of wireless or wired.
Theres no such thing as a perfect headset yet, but PSVR2 is easily the best, even when compared to Quest3
I've been saying for as long as the PSVR2 specs were announced, that (given my experience with a Reverb G2 and a 6600XT), that the PS5 was simply not powerful enough to run the PSVR2 as it was designed. So it really comes at no surprise to find that the games are often running at lower resolutions, in reprojection mode, and with rather aggressive foveated rendering on top. On the plus side, there's quite a bit of headroom for visual improvements should Sony make a mid-gen refresh console like the PS4Pro. On the downside, if you're already invested into PSVR2, you're gonna have to buy a whole new console.
This guy looks like the Veratasium guy
Unexpectedly many negatives, this was supposed to be the one!
Most of my gripes with the PS VR2 are actually pretty minor and for people that haven't experienced high resolution/high refresh rate PC VR they won't know any different so the reprojection and slight blurriness from the lower than native render resolution probably won't be an issue for them as they won't know any different. If this was a PC VR headset, my biggest complaints would be the mura, which actually doesn't bother me that much, and the frame persistence issue. You can fix the frame persistence by lowering the headset brightness but I didn't talk about that in this video because my previous video was dedicated to that issue. Overall, I really do think the PS VR2 is a good VR headset. I had a lot of fun with it and compared to stand alone Quest 2 games, the graphics are WAAAAAYYYY better. It's just me coming from PC VR, based on it's specs, it's clear to me the headset is capable of much more than the PS5 hardware can deliver. At $550 I think this headset would be a banger if it was compatible with PC.
Well quest 3 is coming later this year
I would wait for the quest 3. I have never played pc vr only psvr1. PSVR2 was disappointing for me.
@PSVR2GOOD I was a little disappointed too because of all the hype, but I'm reviewing Red Matter 2 for the PSVR2 right now and... I'm not allowed to say much because the game doesn't come out until the 18th but 😳🤯
@@Maraksot78 I look forward to your review. Great honest review of the headset! 1 other thing I didn't like was that PSVR2 will not play any 3d video unlike psvr1 that would play most 3d video, blueray CZcams etc.
I came from the future to say that Sony realized that the Psvr2 is indeed too good for the PS5 only and now is working at Psvr2 compatibility with PC!
😂
Sent my vr2 back as foveated rendering didn’t work at all only sharpened right in front not where I looked plus headset tracking rubbish on every game drifted all over the place no matter how room was lite ,my quest2 never tracked strange ever even with dark room not happy as loved first psvr1 and went to quest2 as a upgrade but thought the psvr2 would be another step up but lol nooooo wish I hadn’t sold my quest now booooo
I have a quest 2 and I am torn between getting the psvr2 or waiting for the quest 3. Once you go true wireless in VR its hard to go back though...
Saddening to note that it is psvr2 is not that good for watching media, Ott streaming services - Damm!
I've played quest 2 on a £3000.00 PC.And PSVR2.I can tell you STRAIGHT.PSVR2 Pisses on the quest 2.Just adjust your settings.
Psvr2 doesent even play youtube vr 360 vidios and it wont even play blue ray 3d the games are like oculus Qwest games psvr1 is better .
TIL the PSVR2 costs nearly $700 in the UK. No big surprise, Sony loves ripping us off.
In the USA too if you include the crazy taxes.
This is what I understand, honestly and frankly, without cuts and in fact. These Fresnel lenses with a really small sweetspot, plus you feel that the picture is not clear enough, it does not render at full strength. This helmet needs a more powerful console, namely the Ps5 Pro. It is interesting to know how Pico 4 is visually sharper? And Re Village, you don't feel well after it. What is this accessory that makes you uncomfortable? You pay money for a good impression, not for a good impression and feeling bad and not being clear enough.
I tried to play flat games in this helmet and due to the fact that the clarity is only in the center and it is not the same as if I look at my TV with my eyes, then I look to the side and I'm a mess, God ... How can I enjoy this , and the money they ask is not small. I hope that the Chinese will figure out how to replace these lenses with better ones.
The PS5 is a beast of a console and is more than enough to handle next gen VR.
@@bennyboyreynolds Facts
@@bennyboyreynoldsat 60fps? Yeah, above 60? No sadly
Your probably getting diabetic.. reason why you see blur spots
Lmfao
If sony is not going to update the games with new AAA titles and we will be stuck with 50 games, nobody will buy ps vr ever again (Sony, I hope you read this).
After you play wireless in Quest 2 anything else is unacceptable, I remember playing my Oculus CV1 and that wire was so annoying it ruined the experience plus you cannot move without care or you risk destroying the headset, and the price is a even bigger deal breaker.
I won’t buy it until it has social media apps. CZcams VR, other apps, VR web browser etc.
If it can’t do more things than just games available in other platforms I’ll just wait for Quest 3.
What was the last video you made where you front loaded the video with exaggerated bad news? I haven’t had or heard of nearly any actual cases of real nausea with PSVR2.
Why not just say you’re biased and prefer facebook mobile VR where sub-90fps games had been the standard until recently and/or PCVR where the actual high end games are few and far between as the current standard is Quest quality for all of VR…
Basically the Quest standard, the clearest Switch grade graphics, has become the all around for standard virtually all VR game development, but Mura is your problem?
PSVR2 does an exceptional job of splitting the difference between Quest and PCVR in most respects and outperforms both in some ways particularly for people with modest PC builds. (most gaming PC owners.)
PSVR2, like PCVR is just currently hog tied to the Quest standard for most of the games released on it. The pop-in you spoke of in Horizon is an error that has had various iterations throughout gaming history. While pop-in is notable it really shouldn’t prominent enough throughout the game be viewed as a game demerit this many years later with the alternate standard being like Gorilla Tag.
I’ll take 20 Horizon games, warts and all, over the bare minimum Gorilla Tag/Boneworks standard that’s deemed oh so appealing by many PCVR/Quest enthusiasts constantly hurling passive aggressive criticism at PSVR2.
I suspect most of the audience feels the same way, which is why VR hasn’t taken off.
I can only hope that the next PlayStation CEO unties that hands of enough developers to port copious numbers of games from their illustrious back catalogue of flat games to PSVR2. (Infamous, Resistance, Motorstorm etc.)
When Wipeout took about a month to port for less than 3 devs and Borderlands 2 took a little over a month to port for about 3 devs for PSVR1 it’s clear PSVR2 has an alternate path from what’s currently available exclusively and PSVR2 could have a substantially larger library of the highest caliber of games for gamers of any other option in under 2 years.
The lack of actual games made FOR PSVR2 is a bit of a red flag to me. If it werent for re village and gt7 It be in trouble.
I've got a Quest 2 and its lack of games hasn't hurt its sales
I don't know where you get this thousand dollar price tag to game pcvr but that is not true.
PSVR 2 is inexpensive even compared to Quest 2. Quest 2 has a ton of hidden cost because it is imbalanced and underpadded; it has short battery life; it has bad audio; it is super eye glasses unfriendly, ... People end up spending a ton of money upgrading Quest 2 to make it work. AND yet it is using outdated technology. Whoever says PSVR 2 is overpriced really do understand the new VR technology in PSVR 2. And Sony wasn't sure whether it is able to make 2 million headset this year. That's why it was restricting its supply in the US until very recently. What poor decision has Sony made? The problem is not PSVR 2 but PS5. There are not too many PS5 around because of the pandemic. PS5 sales jumped very recently because of its improvement in production. AND PS5 is really not powerful enough to run the full power of PSVR 2. Just look at GT7. Its graphics is much downgraded. You need a PS6 to run GT7 on PSVR 2. Whoever says Sony is making poor decisions really doesn't understand all the problems behind PSVR 2.
Facts
Not really, even if we add everything,
The quest 2 300€, a better headstrap 30€, a decent pair of headphones 20€, better head cover 20€, and i guess some active straps? Which is like 20€, thats a whopping 390€, not bad and the battery isn't that much of a con, itd around 2 hours and ngl, its best that it's 2 hours so you have to take it off and wait, because vr does cause long term eye issues
@@aregulargenericname8794 Bad image quality, color distortion (too red), very dark, highly uncomfortable even with whatever headstrap cause the side plastic cause problem with my cheek bone and it presses against my eye glasses, seriously front loaded and imbalanced, underpadded, poor sound quality, short play time even with battery pack, .. Quest 2 is 2 generations behind PSVR 2. There is no eye tracking, no controller haptic, not head haptic, not adaptive trigger, ... I have already stopped using my Quest 2 for at least a year.
Crazy how bad this headset is
PC gamer in console bashing *shocker*
Also, you're not going to be able to return a headset because it makes you sick.
He made a lot of points for both pros and cons, stop being a ps fanboy, its a mega corporation
PSVR 2 is an epic fail.
This guy has no idea what he’s talking about.
Facts
His entire channel is about vr
another bullcrap review
He literally says in the end its still good and says the same in his comments, criticism is not bullcrap