Feels bad to lose this one because I made a misclick in the move planner. 18:20 On day 13 what happened was I had a solid wall in the move planner but I wanted to make changes to the left side of the map because i wanted to put pressure on the left com tower. So i refreshed the move planner and redid all the moves again on the right side but I accidentally swapped the full hp infantry and the 6 hp infantry. The full hp infantry was suppose to be in front of the 4 hp arty and the 6 hp infantry in the woods. This would require a very high luck roll from von bolt to kill it with a tank. I dont know if mangs would have taken it because if it failed, he loses 2 tanks for free. Overall i think the bigger mistake was just leaving that rocket there instead of moving it 1 space down. Woulda avoided the whole problem :(
I have to disagree with the com towers because if i focus to much on the sides, its to easy for mangs to go straight through the middle and airport lock me. Even though im grit, i still need air units. Also he can then shift to the 1 base side. My plan was to take the middle then shift to the sides and i was in the process of doing that. Unfortunately i made a mistake with the infantry wall.
I can tell very early on if you're going to win or not by how you talk about your performance. If you're self-critical, I know you lost. If you're critiquing your opponent, you won. This time, I wasn't sure. And I appreciate the surprise.
Grit main: spams artillery and snipe attack Opponent: picks decent CO, gets both comm towers, makes basic early disruption, makes balanced army Grit main: *surprised pikachu face* This video is a testament to how high on the ladder Grit cheese can get one.
Spoilers ahead : Man, even when he made the "bait" for Ex Machina, I knew that the next turn would rock And lets all face it, it wasn't a good bait, the fighter and AA were in range, so really Izanagi gave a Bomber and a Figher of his own on a silver platter to Mangs, a good Missle/Meteor/Machina bait shouldn't be in danger, I mean, they are bait for godsake
The 1st use of ex machina was pretty good, pressuring his own super power and forcing him to bait the damage somewhere else (still messed him pretty hard, though). Pretty good
@@salamence6828 Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not .... With only 3 bases on high funds he won't have much in terms of infantry walls... also what's the use if his infantry is getting 1 shot?
"I decide to go to towwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn" as the guitar riff plays was some great content. It felt like something out of a Tarantino movie. Well done Eggman!
it makes sense that von bolt would do good against grit. grit does well when he can just ball up and slowly move forward but the super from von bolt actively counters grits best advantages.
This is a great match to showcase how quickly the tables can turn just from 1-2 small mistakes made by you or the opponent, especially in high funds. What a great vid!
It’s been fun playing in the Glenstorm Cup and watching Mangs play on the same maps. Seeing the parallels and differences in how our matches have played out is very satisfying.
Great match. The mistake in izanagis wall was definitely serendipitous for Mangs, but it was well exploited, and was a lot more fun than seeing the artillery blob move right for 3 turns.
Literally never seen such powerful and effective Ex Machinas before, nevermind three such blows in one game. I had the power written off as too overpriced to really be a factor - this is making me rethink this, at least a little.
Great plays from both, for me, it highlights why I don't like using or playing against Grit: - Snowball CO, if you're winning, you'll do greater, if you're losing, it'll be hard to recover - Although, yes, you need to vary a few units, he'll still have to use wall strategies - Missile-chan still very situational. Another match, another missile-chan that does nothing... I wish Grit had -10% defence on his units instead of -10% attack. IMO that's more what we intuitively expect from a "sniper" CO and would open to some direct counter-attacks from Grit.
Wow, based on those early tank losses, I did not expect you to win. Just goes to show how quickly the tables can turn in high funds with a good turn or two. As someone who got annihilated in this tournament, and is on the cusp of getting thrashed in my first league high funds game, this does give me a little hope for the future.
What a great game! Spoilers: I'm not gonna write another disertation about how Grit is overraed, because you just outplayed izanagi. To be honest he had ALL the means to deny your comm towers, but he didn't and you were able to recognize this problem and played accordingly. Securing the comm tower early was genius, and capturing the other side comm tower was even better. Also this is what I'm saying tho, you rush Grit just like this, except with cheaper units, tankfully you had the funds to pay for the stronger units, but in any other map Grit's artilery can only attack one target at a time, and they can't move and shoot, so rushing like this and threatening several fronts is the best way to do it. So congratulations Mangs, this was an amazing display!
I can confirm that decision by Eggman on 5:05 to skip a city to go for the Comm Tower, I won my match but I was pressured HARD by the opponent on that side of the map.
Congrats winning this one, Mangs. This is where I failed. I went up against a superior skilled opponent and I was utterly outmatched. I look forward to the 3rd match.
What a perfect map size for CZcams streaming! We could do with more landscape maps. Alternatively, I wonder... could there be an option to rotate the map giving streamers more options?
just seeing how the awbw is doing from these videos does remind me of a sorta anime plot kinda from the pov of mangs, if i was to put it into words you just see all these experts with varying personalities and differences, there's these occasional arc changes where the attention of being the strongest player is passed to someone else and maybe, just maybe we'll have a live tournament at the end of the season where that strongest player is participating, and this season that attention goes to jtqwn i just had to say it cause i found it cool to think about
Great match, well played. The strats that high funds allows are always so much more interesting to me than standard. 3 von bolt supers in one match is amazing ahaha
On day 10 you could've saved the neo tank by taking your 2 north tanks and killing the infantry, but maybe losing 3 units to save a neo is less valuable on count. Well actually you sacked them into his main wall anyway so maybe popping the infantry and an arty just out of range would've been the better play
Little did we know at the time that when Izanagi lost to Egg that this was is final match, he retired and no one heard about him anymore, some says that he became a family man, some says that he became a goblin slayer since their head kinda look like Mangs, some says that he became a nun to the rikki convenant Deejus created, but to this days the legend says: "What does the fox say ?" BAU BAU -BS narrator.
The stupid part is that it would take a modest amount of effort to correct the issues. The Egg Cup 2 is getting held up because there are people sitting around who aren't starting their games, forgot to report the match outcomes, aren't reporting their opponent for failing to respond to a match, or both participants haven't been on the site for months. If he would just check up on them once a week to make sure the matches are happening then everything would proceed smoothly.
Von Bolt is pretty weak in HF but Grit is by far his best match up, especially on this map. I think this is the best map in favor of VB with this match up, made for his win.
There was a way to save that neotank by committing your two tanks to taking his infantry on the forest. That being said they would have ended up being sacrificed instead and wouldn't have been able to hit his artillery.
Oh, this map. This map was annoying. It ended quickly so I didn't save the replay (bad idea me) but it was very back and forth since my match was a Von Bolt mirror. At least Game 3 was solid.
grit letting you get 2 towers basically turned von bolt into grim with 110% defense, 130% atk ouch. And not having good walls got you the win. Now i see why you shouldnt let your opponent get both towers.
Thanks for the walkthrough! Super helpful to see your setup. When a customer sends a used waxed chain back for a rewax. What is your process for rewaxing? Do you do any prep/cleaning work before submerging the chain in the hot wax? Thanks!
Barely started the video, but just wanted to say, it's not that von bolt is good against grit, it's just that Grit is overrated. And this is coming from a literaly Grit fanboy. I LOVE playing Grit. He's not that good tho, in no world or format is he above Tier 2 let alone tier 1. (except maaaaaaaaaaybe in a map full of choke points) Oh well.
@@thebrazillianguytm2186 I would say even in normal funds, he gets countered by recons, or an infantry swarm. Remember that artys can only shoot one target at a time.
I do agree Tier 1 STD COs can beat grit but i think the only reason he isnt unbanned on T1 is because javier exists. In order to avoid a potential Grit vs javier auto concede day 1 they didn't unban him.
Feels bad to lose this one because I made a misclick in the move planner.
18:20 On day 13 what happened was I had a solid wall in the move planner but I wanted to make changes to the left side of the map because i wanted to put pressure on the left com tower. So i refreshed the move planner and redid all the moves again on the right side but I accidentally swapped the full hp infantry and the 6 hp infantry. The full hp infantry was suppose to be in front of the 4 hp arty and the 6 hp infantry in the woods. This would require a very high luck roll from von bolt to kill it with a tank. I dont know if mangs would have taken it because if it failed, he loses 2 tanks for free.
Overall i think the bigger mistake was just leaving that rocket there instead of moving it 1 space down. Woulda avoided the whole problem :(
You better stop taking so much drugs. I don't know how you could lose to the egg but you fucked it up son.
Hey, might be a strange question but how do you get grit as your most picked CO? Do you only play HF?
It happens; well-fought match, regardless.
What are your thoughts on the comm towers?
I have to disagree with the com towers because if i focus to much on the sides, its to easy for mangs to go straight through the middle and airport lock me. Even though im grit, i still need air units. Also he can then shift to the 1 base side.
My plan was to take the middle then shift to the sides and i was in the process of doing that. Unfortunately i made a mistake with the infantry wall.
@@izanagi3521 Makes sense, thanks for your response.
I can tell very early on if you're going to win or not by how you talk about your performance. If you're self-critical, I know you lost. If you're critiquing your opponent, you won. This time, I wasn't sure. And I appreciate the surprise.
Holy moly! What a strong win against a 1400+ player. Very impressive.
Grit main: spams artillery and snipe attack
Opponent: picks decent CO, gets both comm towers, makes basic early disruption, makes balanced army
Grit main: *surprised pikachu face*
This video is a testament to how high on the ladder Grit cheese can get one.
Spoilers ahead :
Man, even when he made the "bait" for Ex Machina, I knew that the next turn would rock
And lets all face it, it wasn't a good bait, the fighter and AA were in range, so really Izanagi gave a Bomber and a Figher of his own on a silver platter to Mangs, a good Missle/Meteor/Machina bait shouldn't be in danger, I mean, they are bait for godsake
One of few matches where once a wall break happens, pure aggression without pulling back is actually the needed strategy.
The 1st use of ex machina was pretty good, pressuring his own super power and forcing him to bait the damage somewhere else (still messed him pretty hard, though). Pretty good
This guy underestimated the egg. Giving Von Bolt 2 com towers as grit... it's like total stupidity.
Ah yes, I do quite like 30% firepower against a CO who excels at infantry walls and artillery.
@@salamence6828 Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not .... With only 3 bases on high funds he won't have much in terms of infantry walls... also what's the use if his infantry is getting 1 shot?
"I decide to go to towwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn" as the guitar riff plays was some great content. It felt like something out of a Tarantino movie. Well done Eggman!
it makes sense that von bolt would do good against grit. grit does well when he can just ball up and slowly move forward but the super from von bolt actively counters grits best advantages.
This is a great match to showcase how quickly the tables can turn just from 1-2 small mistakes made by you or the opponent, especially in high funds. What a great vid!
It’s been fun playing in the Glenstorm Cup and watching Mangs play on the same maps. Seeing the parallels and differences in how our matches have played out is very satisfying.
Great match.
The mistake in izanagis wall was definitely serendipitous for Mangs, but it was well exploited, and was a lot more fun than seeing the artillery blob move right for 3 turns.
Literally never seen such powerful and effective Ex Machinas before, nevermind three such blows in one game. I had the power written off as too overpriced to really be a factor - this is making me rethink this, at least a little.
18:26 to be honest, in the end it wouldn't have made a difference if the 2 hp infantry was 10 hp instead as it got plowed by the Anti Air anyways
Thats a good point
Great plays from both, for me, it highlights why I don't like using or playing against Grit:
- Snowball CO, if you're winning, you'll do greater, if you're losing, it'll be hard to recover
- Although, yes, you need to vary a few units, he'll still have to use wall strategies
- Missile-chan still very situational. Another match, another missile-chan that does nothing...
I wish Grit had -10% defence on his units instead of -10% attack. IMO that's more what we intuitively expect from a "sniper" CO and would open to some direct counter-attacks from Grit.
Wow, based on those early tank losses, I did not expect you to win. Just goes to show how quickly the tables can turn in high funds with a good turn or two.
As someone who got annihilated in this tournament, and is on the cusp of getting thrashed in my first league high funds game, this does give me a little hope for the future.
What a great game!
Spoilers:
I'm not gonna write another disertation about how Grit is overraed, because you just outplayed izanagi. To be honest he had ALL the means to deny your comm towers, but he didn't and you were able to recognize this problem and played accordingly. Securing the comm tower early was genius, and capturing the other side comm tower was even better.
Also this is what I'm saying tho, you rush Grit just like this, except with cheaper units, tankfully you had the funds to pay for the stronger units, but in any other map Grit's artilery can only attack one target at a time, and they can't move and shoot, so rushing like this and threatening several fronts is the best way to do it.
So congratulations Mangs, this was an amazing display!
I can confirm that decision by Eggman on 5:05 to skip a city to go for the Comm Tower, I won my match but I was pressured HARD by the opponent on that side of the map.
Congrats winning this one, Mangs. This is where I failed. I went up against a superior skilled opponent and I was utterly outmatched. I look forward to the 3rd match.
What a perfect map size for CZcams streaming! We could do with more landscape maps. Alternatively, I wonder... could there be an option to rotate the map giving streamers more options?
Insert joke about how Mangs looks like Von Bolt here
just seeing how the awbw is doing from these videos does remind me of a sorta anime plot kinda from the pov of mangs, if i was to put it into words
you just see all these experts with varying personalities and differences, there's these occasional arc changes where the attention of being the strongest player is passed to someone else and maybe, just maybe we'll have a live tournament at the end of the season where that strongest player is participating, and this season that attention goes to jtqwn
i just had to say it cause i found it cool to think about
Great match, well played. The strats that high funds allows are always so much more interesting to me than standard. 3 von bolt supers in one match is amazing ahaha
Smart mangs detects the wallbreak and uses it brilliantly 💪, strong gg :D
AW guys say "Grit Main" the same way normal people say "Kale Enjoyer."
Mangs is a real one for admitting he got his Neo-Tank trapped and that it wasn't a hidden 4D Chess 500IQ Galaxy brain bait play
Mangs is so good now. And he's quick. Maybe he will qualify for the grandmasters one day
Nice! One step closer to win the tournament! Keep going mangs! You can do this!
The best part of a Monday evening.
Fantastic game! I’m curious to see if you go the distance on this one, your play on the flanks was spot on in particular
On day 10 you could've saved the neo tank by taking your 2 north tanks and killing the infantry, but maybe losing 3 units to save a neo is less valuable on count. Well actually you sacked them into his main wall anyway so maybe popping the infantry and an arty just out of range would've been the better play
Little did we know at the time that when Izanagi lost to Egg that this was is final match, he retired and no one heard about him anymore, some says that he became a family man, some says that he became a goblin slayer since their head kinda look like Mangs, some says that he became a nun to the rikki convenant Deejus created, but to this days the legend says: "What does the fox say ?" BAU BAU -BS narrator.
Nah, he became sail.
As a Drake main.
well fought. this was spectacular
*builds missiles*
*instantly loses*
classic aw moment
Well the Missiles were being in checkdrerdzszz thereszdzsz sooo yeah lol he shouldve just build a Neo or Md Tank therezszdzsz.
Note to self, flimsy walls is essentially an invitation for your opponent to knock you down.
What happened to the Egg Cup and Masters Tournament? Both seem to have completely stalled...
The stupid part is that it would take a modest amount of effort to correct the issues. The Egg Cup 2 is getting held up because there are people sitting around who aren't starting their games, forgot to report the match outcomes, aren't reporting their opponent for failing to respond to a match, or both participants haven't been on the site for months. If he would just check up on them once a week to make sure the matches are happening then everything would proceed smoothly.
11:52 Block neo with artillery and infantry?
Upd. yeah, pretty obvious.
That is not a trap, you just made a 800 move 🤣
Good job, Mangs!
Von Bolt is pretty weak in HF but Grit is by far his best match up, especially on this map. I think this is the best map in favor of VB with this match up, made for his win.
Wow! Great game, thank you for sharing!
Amazing video as usual 😊
Well played Mangs!
Nicely done Mangs!
What a game! Well played!
There was a way to save that neotank by committing your two tanks to taking his infantry on the forest. That being said they would have ended up being sacrificed instead and wouldn't have been able to hit his artillery.
tiny mistakes like that cause such a brutal spiral man. Good eye mangs.
The old day 11 Turkey shoot
How about s ranking all war room maps.........as Flak in the reboot camp game?
Oh boy
How does Mangs screw up this time?
Oh, this map. This map was annoying. It ended quickly so I didn't save the replay (bad idea me) but it was very back and forth since my match was a Von Bolt mirror. At least Game 3 was solid.
grit letting you get 2 towers basically turned von bolt into grim with 110% defense, 130% atk ouch. And not having good walls got you the win. Now i see why you shouldnt let your opponent get both towers.
finally some grit games!
Yeah, we could use more Grit games🎉❤
Thanks for the walkthrough! Super helpful to see your setup. When a customer sends a used waxed chain back for a rewax. What is your process for rewaxing? Do you do any prep/cleaning work before submerging the chain in the hot wax? Thanks!
I like to do a double wax just to be on the safe side.
Lolz Thanks Mangs! Love your content. Not sure why/how i posted this comment on your video?❤
How on earth do you select grit the most? Does this guy only play HF?
he plays maps not on the global leagues, his global league game count is at 440 while eh got 578 total games
lets go team po1and
14:00 why not free the neo by killing the infantry with the 2 tanks nearby??
Oh Sweet. A Grit Match.
Egg beats cowboy this time
Boomeren von Bolt eksploderer den unge gutten!
Not gonna lie, AW1+2 reboot was meh but it brings some bangers
Izanagi nooooo *dies*
No offense, but I'm rooting for the grit main on this one. Gotta love grit. XD
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Barely started the video, but just wanted to say, it's not that von bolt is good against grit, it's just that Grit is overrated. And this is coming from a literaly Grit fanboy. I LOVE playing Grit. He's not that good tho, in no world or format is he above Tier 2 let alone tier 1. (except maaaaaaaaaaybe in a map full of choke points)
Oh well.
In High Funds definetly, there's too much Direct Firepower at play here that makes Grit more of a noob trap than anything else
@@thebrazillianguytm2186
I would say even in normal funds, he gets countered by recons, or an infantry swarm. Remember that artys can only shoot one target at a time.
I do agree Tier 1 STD COs can beat grit but i think the only reason he isnt unbanned on T1 is because javier exists. In order to avoid a potential Grit vs javier auto concede day 1 they didn't unban him.
I swear it seems that Grit never wins in these videos… is there a conspiracy at play here?
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yup see, Grit is unplayable in advance Wars web
Yay my fav co
Grit?
@@S.G.W.Verbeek yep growing up he was my favorite
@@mourka01 Yeah, same. So much fun destroying the enemy while shooting at them from a safe distance =D
"grit main"
i'm a colin main btw
Stop posting videos of you winning