What are the Consequences of VADA Testing Ryan Garcia?
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Chael Sonnen talks VADA testing Ryan Garcia on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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They need to test Kayla Harrison.
Fr. & funny how most people trashing Bo for being on the main card but just ignore the she-hulk
She’s obvious
On god. I've worked with tons of women athletes that are natty and that are on gear....either some wild genetics or yes gear. Like shes built bigger than a lot of male athletes
@@thedude3189 100% gear man...genetics, lmao.
@@thedude3189I wouldnt even buy the genetics excuse if she was a strict bodybuilder and did that as her full time job, but as a fighter? A female fighter looking like Paulo Costa? Naaaa. Everybody is on PEDs, but compare O Malley with that "woman". O Malley got tested for Osta too, and he looks like a homeless dude.
Chael is a riot. “Ryan Garcia appears to be a Coke Head”.
😂😂😂😂😂
I already know Chaels views. He is anti vada and testing in general and pro peds
As it should be lmao having a better nutritionist should be considered cheating because ya know not everyone has McGregor money
Yeah he is purely pro business
Like all smart people are.
@@juicyjay999 What about baby stem cell therapy and all the other things like crisper 9 tech...wait till that is fully out it will change all pro sports.
Me too
Jon Jones always catching some strays and ricochets 😂😂
Awesome commentary. The "Capt. Confused" metaphor is brilliant.
I thought everyone including soccer moms were on gear
The reason people would do cocaine and not PEDS is because if you get caught using Coke and still won people think jeez imagine how good he would be if he didn’t do this. Whereas if an athlete gets caught using PEDS people will always say that that’s the reason they won, because they had an unfair advantage. And many athletes egos are too big to have that grey cloud over there careers
You must have never done cocaine. It's a performance enhancing drug itself.
If I’m not mistaken, coke is still a PED, and its actually pretty affective 😂, case in point, the famous Aaron Pryor controversy
@@stvillasquadno. It's not.
@stvillasquad is it really affective?
@@bloociferI’ve done cocaine and sports, if you do it right it can be
Nailed it. Still undefeated, undisputed.
Chael, thanks for the baseball analogy. It reminded me of my childhood in the 80’s. I love nostalgia. Ryan is a cheater! What a disgrace!
Best call Chael that too lmao not to mention pretty boy Floyd is always getting rehydration clauses in his fights this is no different than that
Weight cutting is sanctioned cheating....
@@juicyjay999it’s a lot different than a hydration clause. Wtf😂
@@JohnnyFutbol4fr 🤣🤣🤣🤣
i it’s a half to whole fallacy and he knows it 💀 he just knows most people will see the connection and assume it’s true
No views after 8 seconds? Fell off. Jk love you Chael
CZcams algorithm too slow to keep up with Chael
We giiiiit it b we giiiit it
@@davidhughes595chael the new chuck norris
@@Redactstrength do you love the tfatk subreddit?!
I knew tou wouldn't let me down... respect
I’d do a drug partying but I would never ever touch steroids it’s against my code as an athlete from watching Rocky 4 with my mom so can’t say for sure some ppl have weird codes they live by
YOu are that people who live by weird code...youd do dope but not peds lmfao weirdo
The truth is that different people have different reactions with the different chemicals you put in your body. Other than uncle chale he has done them all and conquered them all he needs no more he is undefeated and chemically immune to every poison of man that's why I like him he reminds me of myself
The Supplement GOAT !
The only opinion we wanna hear in this matter!
lol Ryan didn’t even do coke that was just something Haney said lmfao
Common Chael W
I hate when people claim to not know where to buy them . I barely train mma and i have never taken peds yet i could probably make 3 calls and get them . Yet this world class athlete surrounded by elite trainers thinks that is a reasonable excuse. Liver king did the same thing
I don’t even like Ryan but this type of shit pisses me off. You just said it yourself dumbass, he claimed no to know where to buy them not that it’s impossible to make a few calls and have somebody that knows somebody to get you some or point you to the right direction so you can know, but if he’s never been interested in taking them he’s never found out if someone knows, cus why would you start asking around if you’re not interested?? specially a pro athlete, you start asking around people are going to assume you’re taking it
Fr. Its as easy as going to Amazon and just buy a supplement.
There are MANY times in life when its easier to APOLOGIZE afterwards than to try n get PERMISSION beforehsnd.💯
I'm shocked. This guy is the smartest channel on CZcams. I love it. Most people on CZcams are idiots, but this guy is smarter than anyone on the airwaves.
Ummmmmm......it's Chael P. Sonnen. Don't be acking like you don't know.
And he’s also the only fighter that’s never lost a fight or round EVER!
Chael brings absolute facts 💯
Professor of logic at the university of science
Let me ask you this - do you own a dog house?
I used to like Ryan Garcia. Still do, but used to as well.
Captain confused……… that is so funny because it is so true. every addict I’ve ever confronted, starts off with captain confused.
My understanding was legitimate steroids are illegal in the United States for recreational use without a doctor.
Oh they absolutely are lmao, it's just not illegal to DO them. Basically meaning; nobody is going to raid your house and the police aren't going to try and set up stings to catch you with them (unless you're selling them)
I do not know, but sure is easy to get em online. Doesn’t mean it’s legal tho.
@@geraldfriend256Legal to buy, illegal to sell as a "supplement" but legal to buy as long as it is not marketed as a "supplement"
Also it is illegal to use in most tested sports except maybe strongman competitions.
Not a lawyer but it's based on my understanding.
Good take Chael
I had a buddy, who took thyroid medication and abused it. He pretty much was losing his mind on it. But talk about something that works similar to cocaine when taking enough. I wouldn't doubt thyroid powder isn't something that rampant. It's a medication legally given to race horses to make them go fast.
Beat news source
Per usual I am more confused after Chael’s video. Undisputed, never lost a round.
😂😂😂 when did Chael get his degree in lethal hands? It was long overdue
Whats up uncle Chael! Would they of stopped the fight from occurring for a positive test?
No , Valdez popped before fighting and they still let him fight . I think the opponent has to agree to it .
No cuz $$$$$$ at stake
Let’s not forget Vegas lost A LOT of money due to Ryan winning
Am still waiting to hear the consequences 😊
Ryan was set up! 😮
Is Chael implying jon jones might drink alcohol?!?!
WTH Jon has to do with Ryan ⁉️
Chael what is third base?
Finger blaster
Don’t blame athletes for lying about taking PEDs. TJ dillishaw came out clean, and the fans only punished him for saying the truth. That’s all I had to see to understand why athletes will lie.
ya man how dare people be mad when people admit they cheat in a sport that involves physically injuring people...
@@curtisphillips243 oh boo fucking hoo you watch the sport where the main goal is physically injuring people, hypocrite
@@curtisphillips243 😢, go watch boxing… oh yeah it happens there as well. Maybe football? Oh yeah over there too. Hmm maybe don’t watch anything with contact, so your mind isn’t harmed by the thought of someone using steroids, woah.
@@curtisphillips243 don’t watch baseball either, sometimes there’s contact too and steroids.
Um, if you need supplements to enhance your performance you shouldn’t be competing period. Boxing is very dangerous
Its a setup
Still confused. Still not sure if Ryan Garcia is really crazy or not...
I learned everything I need to know about logic from Norm Macdonald. I learned everything I need to know about being undefeated from Chael Sonnen. I guess I am amazing at this point.
Sounds like something a man with no doghouse would say.
Uncle chael is the schmos dad
Um. My question is. Is betting oneself illegal, legal, is betting on yourself the knowledge of taking illegal and place a bet on himself, that is not public information. Is that illegal betting?
So the question is. Is this this insider betting?
Other censorious, did his camp who also bet on him, who handled his nutrition, give him a bump, that caused him to miss weight, and pop positive….to be known only after the fight and the bets have been paid out.
/DOES EVERYONE HAVE TO RETURN THEIR WINNING MONEY? BECAUSE HE CHEATED?
I don’t think they do . Cost of doing business in a gsmbling racket.
Garcia was being tested and came out negative in his mandatory tests. His tests came out positive for drug test samples taken a day before the fight and the day of the fight. It is strange that he came out negative in the mandatory tests but positive in the ones that were voluntary. Voluntary meaning he did not have to take
People dont care cause its boxing its about the show not really a sport anymore. I guess most people want Mike to take any peds he can find to ko Jake
Cocaine is a helluva drug
I don't know that there is any prof Ryan uses cocaine.and the more I hear about this drug.the less I think it's an issue.it really up to the New York State Athletic Commission.
Is it true that the only test that was hot was the one right before the fight and none of the rest?
Chael be my lawyer
Oscar hooked vada up with tickets to year around skiing in deep SNOW to look the other way on this
Eddie is at their front door saying kick his ass out of boxing lol
i know someone who went to third base and skipped first base
I once went straight to third with a girl. Tbh I don't think I even kissed her (she had ciggy breath)
Chael knows a lot on this subject - years of research
When I was a young man and did a little kick-boxing and a sh*tton of drugs, I would have never used PED´s that were against the rule of the competition, because I never noticed anyone else doing them. You can be a drug addict, and still have morals regarding competition.
How long til ryan uses the "tainted supplement" defense?
To be fair, ostarine is a contaminant in some supps.
And it doesn't make sense to take ostarine the day before the fight, (he didn't pop a few weeks before, he popped a day before)
Ostarine doesn't work like a preworkout, it provides muscle growth and bone density over a period of a few months or so.
I find it funny Ryan said he doesn't even know where to get the stuff. I tried sarms off a plain old website 9 years ago, I'm sure in 2 mins i could find somewhere to order sarms or roids
Kids these days skip 1st and start out eating butt
🤣🤣🤣 Shhh 🤫
I’m trying to get to first base but she sent me straight to the dugout. F king 2024 sux
@@geraldfriend256 yeah man, I feel bad for you younger guys these days. The whole culture sucks for any semi-normal guy.
Bro took some bad coke 😂😂😂
Ain’t nobody putting that in coke…it’d be triple the price for a gram 😂
@@jaxon7628ostarine is like 50 bucks online lol.
He keeps saying this is logic. I played pro sport knew people who took recreational drugs but never took performance enhancing drugs. He doesn’t get it. One is for fun, one is to cheat. Not necessarily people who do the first will automatically do the 2nd
Idk, man, I hooked up with a girl who was in an open relationship one time and got a home run without touching first base because it was against their rules
I dont know what happened here, however, as a spectator I feel ripped off by cheating, I can't imagine the way clean competitors feel.
Clean competitors 🤣 where are those at? In you mind?
Its on all dopinglists. Period. Doping in your body equals guilty. Contaminated bs is on the user
Didnt Chael pop hot or something similar?
I saw Chaels video detesting this-saying hes never taken a steroid. Said he had to run with it because he already told the media one thing and it was too late to back-track. I believe you Chael. Thx for the many great episodes of content.
I thought he openly admitted to a lot of ped use?
He did. But he also admits it was wrong.
Did he even fail for a "ped" or was it ashwagandha, which they put in all kinds of foods, drinks, and supplements?
Nah that’s what Garcia is claiming he took, but it sounds like SARMS.
Doing too much Tylenol will kill you and not all steroids are legal
Cocaine and third base man Chael never misses…
I love ya Chael but from a guy who cheated most of his career you don't have much room to be talking about this subject Chael.
Uncle Chael. The substance he got caught for. Is it really something that will enhance your performance?
Ostarine? Very mildly.
Significantly
he should get a ban from competing for a while or
RYAN BONES JONES GARCIA💯‼️‼️
Ryan is a butt pirate? Oh u mean the peds…. Nvm
I’ve taken ostarine, it’s not strong at all. Definitely won’t make a big difference in the fight
He popped for nandrolone too
Then why take it at all??
Lmao he exposed. He is an embarrassment 😂
Coach Greg is more qualified and he disagrees with your embarrasing take
@@blaqalleycat I’d liken it to something you can take over the counter to be honest. It helps a bit but in no means is it strong
Makes me wonder if he came in heavy because he popped hot. Didnt want to get stripped of the belt
Mike Tyson admitted to using cocaine before fights but he never admitted to taking steroids. 🤔
🤦🏻♀️
Drug testing and the repercussions for a failed test (if any at all), in boxing are a complete joke!! Canelo Alvarez, Oscar Valdez, Tyson Fury, Roy Jones Jr, Lamont Peterson all popped for PED’s
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣 its definitely not a performance enhancement lmao 🤣🤣 ill tell you this first hand who is decent in mixed martial arts
You need to clarify when you say steroids are legal. Technically they are illegal in the USA. Most celebrities and athletes have access to Drs that will prescribe them though. I was going to a clinic that would prescribe 250 test and 200 Deca along with peptides and HGH but it’s insanely expensive for a normal person.places like titan medical will prescribe lots of stuff if you want to pay for it and legally send it from their compound pharmacy.
how are we supposed to believe that he really took them, when it was obvious during the fight (Refs and judges) -- that larger forces were against him?
Its just hard to get past that , especially when we all know boxing historically is corrupt to an extreme extent.
He shocked the odds, he did what the big wigs didn't want to see happen, and here we are.
Ryans promotional team(GoldenBoy) were the main promoters for the fight. Meaning they have the most influence in selecting the judges and refs. Tbh I’ve never seen or heard of a fighter test positive for PEDs and it ends up being revealed that it was a setup.
@@lekanosagie ah yes, that judge scoring it a draw was a totally natural occurrence. And the referee constantly holding haney up and trying to preserve him was also just a coincidence
You have to be obtuse to look past that stuff
@@montenegroindependentforev8712 Ryan’s team were the main promoters for the fight, Ryan is a bigger draw than Haney, even more so now. It makes no sense for the boxing establishment to be against Ryan lol. Ryan wasn’t even that massive of an underdog lol, he was only +500, bigger upsets have happened.
112-112 scorecard was the only thing fishy about the fight- but I can see how they got there considering that Haney won the majority of the rounds and the point deduction. The referee didn’t have his best night and imo the fight should’ve been stopped in the 7th round, but from his angle he may not have been able to tell if those were slips or legit knockdowns.
@@lekanosagie you say things like the ref "didn't have his best night" as if that can be dismissed so easily. For me, it is far too delusional and naive. You're coming up with an intellectual and seemingly logical explanation for what we all know was shady.
Like I said, boxing has never been clean and is an extremely corrupt sport. If we were talking about something that had a reputable history, I would see more of your argument. Saying it doesn't make sense for the boxing establishment to be against ryan...when clearly that is the case..oh well agree to disagree.
Not to mention, with the onset of mass betting in the US now, there is big money in very unique and random directions going into all sports. We see it in other fighting promotions like the UFC when paddy pimblett was awarded a victory he didn't get which was very obviously to keep the big betters happy that day.
There are too many variables involved in the fight and who benefits/gains to rely on simple logic like "ryan's team promoted it so they had control". I don't buy that myself
If Ryan is innocent then take the b sample test and have another third party of your choice test you also.
3:30 This channel is getting wild. We're just casually talking about skiing & getting added up. LOL
Did you expect him to lie or make it sound like hes a choir boy?...
@xGregglesx Just found it funny. Lighten up dude. Lol.
@@ajmaneee Oh I'm lightened up, just having a lil fun being a hater that's all
@xGregglesx Choir boys could use some tropicana tho...
@@ajmaneee nah they need JOCKO FUEL
👀
25 yo needs steroids... ok... thats sad
No wonder this guy was acting like a complete nut in the ring... Rage much!
Conor Benn got cooked for using peds. I need to see the same energy for Ryan, don't give him a pass just because y'all are sexually attracted to him😂
Bruce Lee would beat any ufc fighters ass if he was still around
no facts with the "logic" at 3:47 chael is twitching rapidly, surely cocaine, so goes the logic.
This is dumb. Trying to be too smart.
This is an incoherent rant
So what... chael knows
This is why people listen to Chael.
There shouldn’t be any consequences
Yh he's good looking. Good looking people are special. They deserve a pass.
Right? Why would cheating deserves consequences????
Did y’all know Jon jones is gay ??
Chael, an expect on the subject
Pop quiz, hot shot: do you correct it and allow the comment to appear as “edited” - or do you delete entirely and try again?
@@CrookDanny neither lol
All the Garcia fans disappeared
I'm right here. Do You forget who you are following and watching? The king of cheating and peds Chael sonnen
Nope still here💪🏼🇲🇽
Still here lmao 🤣 this is war......
@@nobodyspecialfromkentuckytakes one to know one?
@@nobodyspecialfromkentuckybros projecting 💀
So let me get this straight
. A guy who ADMITTEDLY spoke about taking alcohol and smoking during camp, is being defended over his ability to “not be that stupid”. ?. After the fight Ryan said “I didn’t have the best conditioning”, YET went on Twitter and ig talking about “don’t be scared of what you see tonight”, “ Devin Haney is going to get killed”. So despite him not having good conditioning, and a good camp overall, he was that confident??? Why? Tells me he knew he had taken stuff that would help him cut weight,and be better and thought the alcohol would cover it up. Maybe next time hell take it more serious
Man you're easily gullible lmao
Ryan should sue your dumas for asserting that he has done coke
That’s a terrible thumbnail
Chael needs to actually read a book on logic--he missed the key point--Garcia tested clean on his weekly tests for months --then takes Oserine within the last week window ? Why? It makes zero sense its an 8 week cycle to see any benefit's--the boxing world is a crooked as your government
Not based
Remember who the undefeated and undisputed one is (uncle chael)
Well I dispute his assertion on this point but he does have the biggest biceps in Oregon
Perhaps masking agents at play. Like Lance Armstrong used to beat over500 drug tests. Speculating
Just like Sean O'Malley😂
Devin is close friends with a Vada shot caller who also hates trump... it all adds up.
Why'd we stop talking about the Haneys bribing the ref?
I mean cmon who doesn’t do coke let’s be honest