World of Tanks || M4 Improved - is it Worth it?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Was quite a surprise yesterday to find a brand new T5 American premium medium was released, the M4 Improved, lets find out if it lives up to its name and if it's worth it?
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"Oh this tank doesn't seem so bad..."
*sees gun*
*pukes*
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) its the stock gun on the m4 and the one normally used
+UltimateZ yep, indeed
+Macer23-T hahhaha yep :) I mean wtf 0.44 on a medium? that is really very bad! So it does have better DPM little bit but hm - you have to hit the target, then you have to pen, to do the damage. This thing has problem with both hitting and penning. so - NO. Not buying.
+Macer23-T I was about to get all "fuck you, pay to win" before he mentioned the gun, now I'm "well, it's your money. you can do what you want with it" :p
Yeah, sane gun with M3 Lee.
The gun sorta killed any chances of me buying this thing.
+SnapZ Agreed, I won't be buying this one either. It was fun watching a review on it, but all it informed me of was not to buy it.
+SnapZ Hp too compared to some meds that have no pref mm and are premiums 610 vs 480.
+SnapZ
extremely HARD to USE tank with only 92mm pen and accuracy of 0.44m@100m :(
remeber QB. was using a 4-5 skilled crew and case of cola in all his games...
+mrfunnybees It has no pref MM because wargaming is no longer doing pref MM. All the tanks in game with pref MM will be removed in one of the updates. Just a heads up
+YoBoy Jeffy Well, you're partially right. They'll no longer be made available, but will stay in game for those that already have them.
Im glad I have a Ram II, because it looks much better. 177 apcr pen with the same MM, and almost 200 more HP.
+Slayer Jesse
yup Ram II, furry, and (before the nerf and after the BUFF) Super Pershing!
Soft stats are good for the M4 impoved but 92/127pen. AP-APCR .. ouch.
playing the game on HARD MODE, LOL
+FLYBOY805 Fury*
Ram 2 is trash the t34,t34 85 and 88 are much better
What a surprise, another waste of time by WG. Congratulations!
They give a tank that was supposed to have pref-MM full MM. Because why not?
+fruchstaftmann Its been in the game files for who knows how long, this is just a chance for them to put it on the market is all
+fruchstaftmann Where have you been? They said months ago that they wouldn't be giving any new premium tanks pref MM any more and that they'd be gradually removing those ones that already have it from the shop. There won't be any more pref MM premiums introduced into the game
+Stephen Green If you were paying attention, they were talking about tier 8 premium tanks, not lower tiers. :)
Hill Gergely ok, be sure to come back and let me know when they introduce another limited MM premium at any tier. In the meantime I won't hold my breath
“Developed by the detroit arsenal”
No wonder why this thing is so bad
I really wish when he does tank reviews that he wouldn't use premium consumables and ammo. That way people that don't use them can get a more accurate idea of what said tank will pen and where it will. Also the proper mobility and aim time. I know using a 100% crew effects this also but many people have 100% crews. Im not bitching because I do like his tank reviews and appreciate the time he puts into them but its just something I think every time I watch one and see that premium consumable and all the premium ammo he loads. Not vary many people that are playing tier five tanks can afford 20,000 credit consumables per battle. I don't know it could only be me who thinks this but again thanks for the tank review QuickyBaby.
+Wesley E I never pay 20k for a premium consumables, use this video to find out how to get them for 10k all the time. czcams.com/video/4SiXT2vKY_c/video.html
With regards to 100% crew this is a PREMIUM TANK which means you can use crew from ANY American medium WITHOUT penalty.
Yes yes I know I watched that video and utilized that information last night when I bought 200 of practically each consumable except for the premium ones. I also didn't mean to offend with my comment and like I said before I don't have any problem with a 100% crew at all and yes I do know it is a premium tank and training your crews from other tanks is what its for like you said in your video. So if I have offended I do apologize and it is unfortunate that the first comment that I have left and been responded to came across negative. Thank you for all the time you put into making these videos and responding to my comment.
But you do have a point, most players wont be using cola in this tank, and will be train new/ish crew. Thing I like to do in this cases is; put a new commander that need 6th sense and a good trained crew, that way he will get xp from tank and train twice a fast (more if you count daily double). I use this technique in regular tanks too, like T29 where its commander went to T32 with a new crew giving it a sixth sense and bigger commander bonus for rest of the crew.
I moved my American heavy crew to each new tank I bought after the T1 Heavy. I stopped them in the M103 because I already had an E5 100% crew from when they did the rampage and such. My crew that came from the T1 Heavy now is setting in my M103 working on finishing up their fourth skill. I do this with every tank line I run also. Use gold to train them to 100% on the next tank and put a 85% crew in the old tank.
Of course, for crew training, gold is the best, for those who have it.
Isn't it too disappointing to play an old tank with new bad crew, and wouldn't be easier and more economic to pay training for a new crew (72544 xp from 75% to 100%) rather then the old one for that extra 10% (39153 xp).
I also plan to put female crew in T110E5, as I read on forums it's worth it and it needs only 4 crew members.
M4A2E4 is way better than M4 improved because of its preferred match making
+lok tin ho
ALL Soft stats are much better on the M4-improved, but do not compensate for the guns penetration.
+UltimateZ The gun on the B2 isn't that bad considering it will never see above tier 4 unless you're doing it wrong.
+UltimateZ A-20 rocks socks off. Not even mine thats how good it is
I have the e4 and was debating on getting this tank but this new knowledge just kills this tank maybe if it had the long 75
Give it the 17 pounder and i'll buy it
+nicklong27
LOL that would be fricking amazing
plus some armor welded to the front like a T26E4 SP and turbocharge the engine ;)
+Robert Boden that would happened if the tank was russian made. you know, wargaming.
+Xartim ha, try the t-34-85m if you think that...
When I bought it I thought it comes with the 105 mm derp. I was dreaming of all the HEAT I can fire.. Only to realize it has the t14 gun😕
Still managed to make 1600hp in a tier 7 match. I was lucky I had a good team.
Richard Gustafsson you can't, no refunds from wg.
I've only encountered one of these in a confrontation. I was driving a Sturer Emil, so I assumed this tank sucks., because I was able to kill it in one shot and its shot didn't penetrate me from the front. Lol
Only available as a bundle here in the US. Minimum price is $20. So definitely not worth it, and that gun. Would not buy.
I bought mine, and i love it, you're a powerhouse in tier 5 and in tier 6-7 you have the speed to act like a light. the gun depression gives you the ability to be a little "cheeky" with poking on higher tier tanks. The gun wont always carry you guys, but if your a skilled player who likes lid tier tank absolutely go for it
I really like these reviews QB -- you're being honest and balanced, and you're not afraid to speak up when you feel like that a specific company has done something wrong (the disastrous emblem-patch) or when they've done something well (listening to us community and giving us the tank only with a tiny amount of gold). That's something that many other channels could take a lesson of. :)
You know, what I would really like to see from Quickybaby?
A Q&A, maybe linked with some fitting Replays from us, where we ask Quicky Questions and he answers, not the general stuff like spotting mechanics, using bushes or sidescraping, but more specialized things like
-What do I do best with that sort of tank on that sort of map? (Rheinmetall on a Town Map for example)
-How do I penetrate an O-Ni upfront most reliably..or a sidescraping Heavy?
-and the probably most asked question: "How the hell did I get spotted in that certain situation?!"
just some examples
+TheMaleLynn -I have 6 Q+A videos on my youtube channel and answer hundreds of youtube comments weekly.
-Watch my map tactics series.
-Watch my reviews on those tanks
-check my bush videos.
I would like to see a lowtier game vs. tier 7 opponents. Ruling of t5 is not that significant.
I'm surprised the ground resistance on soft is worse than the standard M4 since it uses wider tracks and a modified version of the suspension from the M6 heavy.
I appreciate the honesty of not hyping this tank.....
I got this yesterday, I got an Ace Tanker on my 7th game. I am making ~1000 exp on defeats. Even with terrible matchmaker match ups if you play it intelligently you can earn a crap load of credits and exp even on defeats. Take 80% HE, 10% APCR and 10% AP ( or no AP it is pretty useless ).
They sure love the Sherman. This one and the revalorise coming too
I only played it a few games so far, but it did OK. Decent armour, good mobility and the turret traverse was to my liking. I was already used to the gun from playing the T14 and Excelsior, both who use the same main gun, if I understand it correctly. All in all I don't regret getting it.
A curious release indeed. Good review and seems like a decent alternative for training up a crew over the SP play style.
Just won one from a tourney and I must say it is not as bad as I thought it was going to be.
M4 improved?.. improved my ass
*:D*
It actually is improved in every way but the gun.
its back in the specials from the 26th to the 27th of july 2016
loved my m4, with the derp gun its a monster . Shame this has not got that gun
M4 "sort of" improved
I got this tank tonight from my part in last weeks March Madness tourney.
"We didn't even scratch them!" lol probably something you'll hear alot in this tank.
I got a couple of these recently from Christmas/New Years boxes on the Russian server. Not a good tank at all but still keeping one because I collect tanks even if I don't use them much. I did get the IS-3A in one of the boxes, though along with a couple KV-220-2, Turan proto, 7800 gold, and about a half million credits and a bunch of low value prizes so it wasn't a bad run overall for 20 boxes.
Me too just love these boxes got he m4 improved in my first box
LOOOL there was a Panzerjäger I on the enemy team! Good job indeed, matchmaker...
What's the video in your outro? Where can I find those replays or are they from live streams?
I'm currently at Tier VI up american medium tank line (with my Sherman Jumbo), and that being my highest tier, I was really suffering at it since it really doesn't make money like lower-tier tanks do (at tier V, particularly). So, I got the M4 Improved when I was already playing 'at' its level, and it suits my playstyle well enough.
I like it.
It lets me make money, train up crews for my M4 and the Jumbo and doesn't force me to play in Tier VIII matches. No premium MM, of course, which would've been lovely as this is my first non-gift premium tank... I'm used to the low-pen guns since I'm still grinding with the Lee (which has the same gun) for my T1 Heavy, but if there's one thing that this tank could improve it would be the cannon.
i like the m4 improved its a nice little tank and its what a medium tanks should be a flanker that can just blaze through the front of higher tier heavies like a lot of mediums can these days so i like it.
AS a M4 Sherman player with 3 marks, you use the derpgun, so the playstile is diffrent
hey quickybaby how would you compare this tank m4 improved to the matilda IV or ram II?
I love anything M4 Sherman related - even IF the tank is (not)improved.
interesting to note the vid shows the m4 imp being pretty quick well this is not the case for me so i say there are some shenanigans going on with it and wot
I actually enjoyed this thing when I played it. Sure the gun can be really bad, but the speed and power tow eight are quite good. This allows you to get a rounds the sides of tanks fairly easily. Just don't try fighting tier 7 heavies with it obviously.
+Sleeper800 power to weight you mean?
+MrProtoking Auto correct
Could have used this when it was available here in the US earlier.
I have the tank. It's a decent tank. The gun it's the same as the top gun on M3 Lee with worse accuracy... but the gun is much more accurate on the move(and circling) than regular sherman. Just had a circle fight with chrome wheels and won. And for higher tier matches you have to play about the same you would if you used a derp gun on regular sherman - i.e. support as QB says.
Looks like they drew up a Sherman to use Navy face-hardened armor, but then dropped it when they found they would not be able to get any supplies.Probably when they dropped this is when they tried to see if the Sherman could survive with its gross weight raised to 84000 pounds, which resulted in the Jumbo.
Oughta run 75% crews when reviewing a tank, as that's how most people will start out.
+sunac You can only buy it with 100% crew.
+sunac Only players who haven't played a single US medium will have that...
+TornadoADV why would you do that this is a premium tank, use your other crews.
+QuickyBabyTV because although you (and other youtubers) mention it in every video about a premium tank, it still seems that most people still don't know that you can use your other crews on premium tanks. no idea why...
+sunac Pretty sure it comes with a 100% crew. But most people will have a US medium crew to put in it, that's pretty much the reason to buy it. Bought mine on Wednesday and because I have that, the Fury, the T23E3, the Super P my M46 Patton crew got 5 games with the x5 bonus plus 4 games had premium bonus, so probably got around 30-40k XP. I suspect it will get a buff soon, they need to buff that pen.
I would have liked to see some 6/7 tier play in the m4 imp.
Wish he did a comparison between the Easy 4 Premium one
M4A2E4
You should have compared it with the Ram II as well
Toaster should have put 2 88mm sized shots into him... wouldn't have been such a great replay at that point lol. Doubt it was a range/vision issue since it's such a small map.
looks like another snack for my KV-220
Kind of seems like an American Pz V/IV (which is tier 5 on console). It'd make a decent American crew trainer if you don't want or don't want to pay for an American tier 8
It looks cool, at least...
But I'll take the regular Tier 5 M4 any day. It may not have the DPM but it has overall better gun choice.
+Velancious No magic of Friendship could make that gun better. Except it becoming either a 6pdr or an M1A1 76mm.
look dont matter, money making does
+Eliazer Nikola if you can do well in anything, it will make credits. That weedy gun will require some more skill to use.
As I'm collecting the Shermans, this one is a must for me. Had a lot of fun playing it so far. I miss the 105 of my Regular M4 or from the British Sherman III, but the armor, at tier V, is sooo much better...like the T14. It's a lot quicker and can go around tanks a lot quicker than the T14 though, so that's awesome. At tier 5, It can be played like the 3E2 jumbo at tier 6. Smartly but Aggressively ;) Oh... another thing.. Even though it does not have match making advantages, I was quite lucky so far.. no Tier VI fights yet... (crossing fingers).
I like it. You just have to not waste time shooting at things you won't be able to pen. Use your mobility and great view range (for the tier) to get in positions to flank softer targets. And don't expect to be hero in tier 7 matches.
Really do love my M4 and play it a lot. When this tank release I was super excited. Though now not so much. Why did WG have to place the 75mm cannon on this tank? If this is the improved version wouldn't the train of thought be to place the best cannon on it as possible???? At least give us the 76mm!!! I had high hopes that this would be the American version of the Cromwell Berlin. I am pretty pumped about trying to find out more on the history of this tank and to see what the proposed deployment configuration for it was.
Good review. Fair assessment.
I wish that you would stop using premium consumables like Cola, it gives an unrealistic idea for a average player of a tank.
I like it, a fast medium, and it is a MEDIUM where you have to flank and shoot weak spots. Not sure what people are expecting there at tier 5.
In the NA we got a 20$ and a 40$ which kind of grinds my gears because I would drop 12$ on this, but naw, not 20.
That reverse speed is a wonderful asset.
The thing zooms around and should have no problems flanking.
+Butcher_ Bird_44 I've unlocked every tank now and have nothing left to spend my credits on.
How about artillery? :)
it reminds me of the excelsior and is-6 because of its nice armour but crappy pen
Haven't played for 2 months.
Played 3 games today.
Saw one of these.
the 92mm of pen...well same as T14 and Excelsior. Same goes for accuracy. If RNG loves you, you can dominate a game, if not, you will be frustrated. Good Crew helps (hitting weakspots...). I love the tank. Strangely if FEELS less mobile, although it isn't.
i have a feeling if this had a Howitzer it would freak people out much like the Jumbo did.
The gun on the M4 Imp, is roughly the same as that of the M3 Lee, as they are technically the same gun, or at least in name, (75mm M3), now that being said, it has a higher impact for HE than most tanks with a similar caliber. So I'd recommend running an equivalent amount of AP and HE, because you can do decent damage rolls with the 75mm M3, which is something most don't realize when running the M3 Lee, you'll most likely do more damage with HE to light tanks, because the high impact of the shell. yes it tends to travel quite slow, but it still keeps a higher impact. can't quite explain how that would make any sense, but hey, it's World of Tanks, and not a game with Uber realistic physics, like War Thunder.
Doesn't seem worth it. Just a waste of money to me.
lots of comments... I have and really like my M4 so I bought the M4 improved. The best reason I think to buy any prem tank is for crew training and this tank is great as a trainer. I do not use it like an M4 as that will get you killed. I find using it as a scout works well in tier 7 matches and a high dpm gun works well in many places where u can pop out and get a few side shots.
For me it is worth it, for others... depends how you play it and what you expect from it. Try brawling with it... lol.
Quicky Baby can you review the the new lot tier American TD and SPG?
The gun gets a lot of well deserved criticism. Still, I'm used to it from previous premium tanks.
So far I enjoy this tank.
I wish he compared it to the t14 and the ripper to they all basically the same gun
Every time he fired a round it was 100% accurate straight on the reticle. I've heard of lucky but this happens on all of his videos. A gun with .41 accuracy and he gets that kind of performance. I never thought about it until now, and no it was not just luck. I challenge you to go back and watch a video or two of his and see where the rounds go.
DezGamez made a short video on this tank. Showed us a result where he did very well indeed... and then promptly sold the tank... Like, WTF?
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I didn't get my mustard -The Chaffee driver in your stream yesterday
M4 Sherman armor is not that bad I bounced a T25/2 shot
I collect Shermans, so whether or not it's good is moot for me.
That said, this may be a vehicle that I can use as a "heavy" scout. Or play it French.
+Jason Fuentes Best comment so far. I have it and like it as a scout or low damage, fast firing td. Make no mistake used well it can sway a battle.
Btw, I bought it because my m4 is one of my fav tanks. Funny thing is they need to be played almost totally different... lol.
I like the decision to not watch the entire replays and just look at the post game stats of a few battles. I think it worked, got a good idea of the cross-tier performance.
it looks like a sherman that was designed by the Maschinefabrik Augsburg Nürnburg !!
Ive been using this on and off for quite awhile. It was not worth it. I really like the tank, it feels like it should perform better. Nothing ricochets off my armor, only a quarter of my shots penetrate. Its pretty much a mosquito. It might be my play style but it feels like this tank is meant to entice you in with the bonuses to xp and then serve you to the people using proper tanks.
What mods does QuickyBaby use. I use the mod pack, but i'm missing the damage log of shots i recieved. :/
QB review the Pz.T-25
Quickybaby have you played the french sherman on the test version yet?
Thank you for the prompt video, QB! I was glad to see a new tank that wasn't piled into some bloated bundle, but I don't think I will buy it. Why spend money on a tank that's at the mercy of the matchmaker when I could just go play a regular tank and get the same.
Well it seems like a mini T-14, I prefer high damage guns but love my T-14 might just give it a try. Thanks for the video Quicky.
Whats the name of the mod he is using to see hits/stats and things?
Ive got one. My Tank has "Furious" on the side. I like the tank actually, good for side scraping. I do like low tier. And having a tier 4 Luchs with over 5000 battles proves that a Luchs is the Funniest and Most entertaining tank to drive. Taking out a Tiger by hugging his side,slamming 30mm round after 30mm rounds into his side while his gun can't depress low enough to shoot you is quite Hilarious!!
Seems like a fun tank if you play that tier often.
Typ95 tomato shooting multiple HEAT shots, how can he have the money for that with his playstyle?
What equipment should I put on my M4 Improved?
I love my T14... I really do. It's a horrible addiction, but MAN do I love my T14.
It kinda looks like a Panther, or that Panther/M10 premium.
Seems like it plays a lot like the Ram 2. The armor on the Ram is surprisingly effective in a top tier match, but it does see tier 7 matches. The gun on the Ram is just terrible, but it fires even faster than the one on the M4 Improved.
+CravenTHC Plus IIRC it has 20mm more pen than the M4 Improved.
MerryJerry M4 Improved has 92 while the Ram 2 has 105. I would be highly interested in seeing a tank comparison of these two vehicles. Their armor profiles, maneuverability, gun, and gun handling are all very similar.
+CravenTHC right? I don't know why he didn't include it in the tank compare.
hi quickybaby , im kinda new to your channel , only subscribed since around a month ago or less, amazing contents about WoT, very entertaining , now , one thing captured most of my attention is your "Good Guys" series , will you please consider to make some new episodes for that series please? cuz i feel like theres nothing better to see teammates got each other backs in online game , even when they dont know whos who , and just instinctively go and take shots or even die (well in game , not literally) for their teammates..
watching this video in 2018 after I got an M4 Improved in the christmas boxes.... hearing QB say "after which we have no idea if it will return or not" makes me laugh at how we used to think WG would ever keep things rare or only sell them once.
it's really stupid how WG are doing away with the notion of preferential MM. Theyre shooting themselves in the foot. If youre gonna sell mediocre premium tanks, at least give them them something a little special. Extra credits & xp are not really going to sell it on its own. pref mm is the main reason i got the pz4hydro, e25 and super pershing.
+4exgold True , one of the most frustrating things in the game is when you get into a battle and see that you are fighting tanks that can almost one shot you and you have no hope of doing much to them. If you're paying real money for a tank it would be nice to get a little more out of it. This tank will be almost completely useless in a tier 7 game.
The difference was with the M4 with the 76mm. The M4 Improved has the 75mm and that's the difference in the tanks. I've been playing my M4 with the 75mm and I've had a lot more success with the improved. The 76 although good, isn't really needed unless you're against tier VI heavies and tier VII's. I quite enjoy playing the M4 improved and the M4 but depending on gun choice with the M4, I find the improved to be much better.
Any word on the M4 Improved coming to Xbox One version of the game?
You could drive a shopping trolley and make it look good ;)
I like the Sherman tanks, and this tank looked tempting, but after your review, I have to pass on it. I prefer the E8 and the Firefly overall. Thanks for the review :)
It gets pref mm on console, I like it quite well on console much better then the ripper with it's horrid hatches that affect gun depression
nice job QuickyBaby, thanks
I have T1 Heavy, should i buy M4 too?
Good God, the 75mm Pea shooter... The only thing that turns me away from Premium American tanks. I'm still kicking myself for buying the T14, No regrets about my Ripper though.
hello guys im looking for a premium tank between tiers 5-7 what tank do you suggest me to buy?
It's fantastic as top tier. Rubbish in a tier 7 game in a support role. Though works fine as a scout if need be. It def needs a buff in the ammo type of some sort. Though the AP is more then enough vs the O-I's upper side armor. So it def needs to flank more so then not at times. Definitely a tank for the more patient player. The same gun works fine on the T14 HT. But then again, that don't see tier 7 either.
+Balc0ra's Gaming I would agree if it didn't have 370 m view range.
Well I had a 4 skilled crew to get it going, recon and situational awareness + binocs. 505m max listed view range.
Hey QB, I know it's an old tank but would you care to make a review of the T-25, you don't have any content of it and I think it's a great tank on tier V, I just bought it like a week ago and it's just flat out padding my stats(I'm a potato) I would love to see you play it and show a few unicummy stuff to do with it :)
Woe that new garage is cool
you dont have any video about super pershing please make one
I guess you could call it improoved... The only problem is the penetration which is a huge problem...
10:05 2 shots in a row deal 110 each :O