32 PLAYER RTS?!?! THIS IS MADNESS!!! | Beyond All Reason | 16V16 | BAR Cast #5 | Unreasonable Cast!
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I utterly adore games that allow so many players and so many units.
And that's why Supreme commander will forever be my number 1 RTS ever. Now Beyond all reason is here and it's great.
When sanctuary:shattered suns drop it's going to be GAME MF OVER for the RTS space
@@pHixiq We will see. It takes a long time for an RTS to smooth out the rough edges and make it great in esports. Nothing against sanctuary though, I am looking forward to it as well.
@@krux02 hopefully it comes out good man. I can't wait !
@@pHixiq un beetableee fröst mahge
I hope this becomes the next new thing.. Always wanted a massively multiplayer rts.. Doesn't even have to be hardcore or serious just fun
21:40: These cinematic shots are so fing sick, with armies marching around, shots flying everywhere, planes advancing through the camera... gorgeous xD
35:50 can we just appreciate for a second how crazy cool animated these Heavy Guns are? The barrel glowing red of the heat. Even tho its a super mass battle RTS with Thousands of Units at the same time of the field, the devs had so much love for their units that they animated such details in there. Just blows my mind.
self destruct = when you know that unit will die and don't want to leave wrecks
Wow. I'm only a few hours in to research on Beyond All Reason after finding out about it the other day, and it looks really interesting. I had a pretty bad time with the default experience on the client I downloaded to test out, but after seeing that this is the kind of thing that's possible (actual significant innovation in the RTS genre!), I'll give it a more thorough second try than I was intending. It's been years since I played SupCom, and I was never very good at it and never played multiplayer, so I'm glad this kind of content exists.
The camera looks incredible on this.
what i love most about this game is the calm before the storm at the start and the corpselittered craterfloor chaos is whats left at the end
Nukes get shot down very close to their silo. So at 30:30 the nuke was FROM Fontaine not AT him. It's just that static anti nukes fire really early as soon as the enemy is targeting their area. So look closer to where that nuke has been shot down, instead of on the other side. It's a bit counter intuitive. Also, Raghna couldn't fire his nuke when it was about to die, coz the Thors have EMP missiles, and it just got hit by one. Thors are often prefered to Titans as the experimental unit of choice for Armada exactly because of that EMP missile capability of the Thors. That bouncy lightning gun is also amazing.
Super awesome! Definitely subbing to catch more BaR content. Coming at this from a SC2 angle and really enjoying it so far! Great cast!
Glad you enjoyed!
This was an absolute joy XD Imagine a freaking 32 player game XD
Being a huge fan of Total Annihilation, this game looks just as I had hoped a new TA game would look. I'm so glad someone stepped up to to the plate to take a nostalgic swing again. I was never a fan of Supreme Commander. Felt way different and just didn't sit the same.
Do we know if they plan to allow modding communities to create units and maps?
There already is some form of a modding scene
The game is completely open source and available to mod.
@@WillowsDuality Do you use a controller to get those camera shots? Because if that's mouse and keyboard, that is the smoothest M+K camera control I have ever seen!
I use controller and mouse and keyboard.
@@WillowsDuality I knew some of those really slow pans seemed too smooth to be M+K!
Nice commentary its not easy to keep it flowing for an hour👍
Glad you liked it
I like the high energy casting! Subbed and looking forward to future videos.
I do wanna say tho, rotating the camera is a big pet peeve of mine for rts, as it can be really disorienting, but I would be curious to hear what others think
If you don't know who a unit belongs to, simply click it in TV mode and the view mode will switch to that player (you will see the name above the team UI change). You can also force icon display during hidden UI by disabling "hide when UI is hidden", and then change icon view distance to a very high one for the cinematic views of the battle field.
You can also see the name of the owner on the bottom right of the unit card shown on the bottom left of the screen when the unit is selected.
47:10 Logic behind selfdestruct is that in BAR when you selfdestruct units or buildings they don't leave a wreck (commanders still do tho)
So if you have a damaged unit behind enemy lines it might be worth so selfdestruct it so it does not get rezurrected.
Also MANY things explode more violently with self+d, that includes metal extractors, factories, light laser towers, fiends, mobile bombs, juggernauts and probably more that i didn't just see myself or test.
also i think fiends do leave wrecks behind.... but well not 100% sure
47:34 you can see here the thor was like 1secodnd short of not being able to self+d in time and it leaves a wreck
It's a bit confusing when you show the map upside down, with the camera in the north pointing south and not in alignment with the minimap
Those are some smooth camera transitions, well done.
That was fun to watch :)
thought this was a modded supreme commander. looks like a cool game, gonna check it out.
Would love to see more BAR!! 🙌🏾💜🔥
Those nukes need longer lasting mushroom clouds. :)
I agree
I remember having so many units on the map in the original that my game would lag. The faster shorter range bots are good for flanking in mass
If you click on a unit in spectator mode it tells you their name in the bottom left.
bro wtf. this already looked better than SC1/FA & 2 combined. i just started playing the tutorial last night and i didnt know that the multiplayer matches can be this epic.
As always I really enjoy your casts, especially BaR ones but in such large team games it would be better to use teams colors instead of players colors in my opinion. I also have a bit problem with joystick camera movement. Overall I love that idea and it seems really nice but sometimes it's actually quite hard to focus on things ,maybe it's a bitrate problem, not sure.
I'm not trying to be mean or rude but some improvements would be make your casting even better
Yeah, rotating cameras in rts are a peeve of mine as well. As far as the team colors, maybe it would help you out to know that one side is warm colors and the other side is cool. Also I think the colors are sorted by ranking as well
Epic battle in hilarious game!
i started watching this and i was like Wait what this is total anhilation but like newer tf XD had to do some research im stoked to play it now
you nailed it
Can't wait when it's on steam
Way awesome!
Thanks!
34:50 Prevents the enemy commander from getting the kill XP
We need an MMO Rts in the Star Wars format 😁
The logic behind the Self Destructs is that they don't leave wreckage that can be harvested. I noticed the Thors they SD'd were either far behind enemy lines or were almost dead anyways.
Total annihilation meets modern day supreme commander UI
The Self destruct on the thors was probably because they were already low health, and for everything (I think) except coms if you SD it doesn't leave a body behind to revive. And don't quote me on this but I think sometimes it also has a bigger explosion if you sd instead of dying.
super cinamatic air force i must say 21:42
Great cast and camerawork :P can you hide the unit overlays/player colors etc for far away shots?
I can but when I zoom out I like to turn them on when I zoom out to let people get an idea of what's going on.
I'd love to play a freaking large scale RTS survival with hundreds of players around you in a FFA/alliances and everything where your intention is in taking the world.
loved the vid !!
please more 32 player BAR!!!!
These games only happen in special occasions so I can't readily get more replays sadly.
This is so cool! A childhood dream come true, for sure.
(But, slight mistake: Game is set to "StarCraft" tho on YT.)
I have no control over that. Beyond all reason isn't in the game library on youtube. CZcams automatically chose the game at ransome since I put it int the gaming category
also some units like fiends have larger and more powerful damage radius when they self destruct as opposed to being killed
I don't get so much from watching BAR. I came for 16vs16 and stayed for the Koom Valley reference - A nod to Terry Pratchett's Discworld. It's the location for the start of the long standing feud between Dwarves and Trolls, both sides blame the other for starting it and battles keep happening there.
you said to comment for more videos.
more!
I don't even know this game, but it sure was an epic battle
I don't play BAR but from my initial observation, it seems if he self-destructs the Thors they don't seem to leave a metal husk behind! 🕵
That's crrrrrrrazy!
When self destructing a unit it will not leave a corpse. So they can't revive it and they can't reclaim it for metal. So if you have a big unit about to die deep behind enemy lines you can self destruct so they can't use the corpse to rebuild before you get back.
Total Annihilation meeds Zero K meeds Star Craft. Nice to see how this old games melt into each other and go on and on again.
very nice Supreme commander copy alternative . For plus goes not to big bases ,seems like you can focus more on Units instead base micro
Self destructed units don't leave wrecks, so they can't be rezzed.
As i remember if you self destuct a unit, there is no metal left, that can be picked up by the enemy
Self destruct prevents there being a corpse to revive deep in enemy territory for them to use against you later
cool
2 commanders = one people didn't connect so an other guy took his commander too so the team isn't at a disadvantage (even though that guy with 2 commanders has to micro a lot more, at least initially, but also has double the resources and building power).
This seems like it took inspiration from Total Annihilation. I absolutely love that game.
It's a remake, just with unit names changed to avoid potential copyright issues.
Anh dodging the artillery on 1 health at 10:09!
DOPE!
Anyone know what the green explosions are that have all the lightning crackle? Such as around 37:10?
It's a missile launcher that is used to kill scouts and intel. it's a counter to things like tick spam
self destruct seems to not leave the thors bodies behind for the metal deny I think
WOW, never seen that game. Is it TA successor? Seems pretty cool and a modern version of TA...
it is!
@@WillowsDuality wow, so cool... although I prefer OTA, I'll try this one for sure. I also prefer SupCom (love it, as OTA), but this game seems to be pretty fun. Is it free to download and play? Is there a forum like FAF one? I used to play OTA at Warzone, but that were the old and good days :)
madness?......THIS IS BAR!!!
The caster sounds like he just got off his Star 100.7 disc jockey gig.
Can change volume with +- numpad keys
The sumos kind of remind me of the Urbanmechs from battletech, both look like walking trash cans, both are slow and both carry only one gun. NO CUBIE DA URBIE.
Good job CZcams game gesser, this is 100% StarCraft :P
looks like supreme commander
Great commentary. It would be great if you could orient the camera the same direction as the map. Most of this video you have the main camera going the opposite direction of the minimap. It's a bit disorienting that way. If you just flipped the main camera around that would be so much better.
I am at 0:01. I am going to take a guess and say that I am going to see a lot of comm explosions very early
like
Kinda sad that green's behemoth went completely unnoticed and also didn't really seem to do anything.
more wood is needed 😉
self destructing doesn't leave a corpse to res or salvage
Are you Kibbitz brother or cousin or something? You sound like him and have the same enthousiasm
Nope, but he did watch this channel when I was starting out. Happy lil coincidence.
Fun game. I want to get it
It's free, kinda complicated to learn tho
@@jacksontarlin6841 whats the game?
Armada and Cortex is a lot like arm and core must be intentional, play many hours of TA way back when
the game started as a modern remake of TA, changed the names to avoid copyright issues. It's a open source project though
Great game. You camera view was upside down from the mini map. made it hard to follow.
woah your voice is eerily similar to gametheory's matpat haha
thanks? lol
Im colour blind and its so ridiculously confusing when the camera is spinning continuously
rotating camera is bad idea, it makes it hard to compare which side is more progressing toward the others territory; on minimap player can be on right, while on main view he is on left, its just super confusing
I wish i bought this game instead of FAF
its free i believe
It's free, link in the description to their site
@@WillowsDuality It's free?! Yaaayyy! Thank you very muchhhhhh!
what game is this?
Yeah melting your pc 😉
Coming from Supreme Commander, I don't like how demoted the commanders are. They were always a source of a lot of drama and action. And nukes are very underwhelming(The slow nukes with powerful and long-lasting explosions and fallouts really expressed a lot of terror of nukes).
Ability to observe the battlefield without all the range and sight indicators would be nice to reduce visual noise.
What game is this
What game is that 🤔
woaw ! great video !
but you're not close enough to the action often enough :(
22:06 MightySheep ragequit and gives his base to one of the lowest ranked players?
What happened?
why youtube say this is starcraft
because BAR isn't in the game library of youtube.
Is this true descendant of Supreme Commander FAF?
no, this is more of a successor to total annihilation, the game before FAF
I like unlimited units, but even 8 players is too many.
is this Zero K?
nvm i thought it was Zero K
Is this GYLE?
Uh, did you mute the game or something?
no, the audio is weird with the camera I was using, it only gets louder when I'm closer to units afaik
man! never EVER turn around camera around the battlefield! it's very hard to track the fight without const context.
P.S. for Zog's sake - disable in-game music! no time to watch these replays on 1.0x speed. But settting 1.5x brokes music.
Can i get replay?
Game name
It's in the title
Rts? I forgot the meaning
Real time strategy
Really cool unit numbers. But for me, the game is too fast paced. I liked Supreme Commander better, so I am holding out for Sanctuary.
什麼遊戲
This game is so hard to follow imo
as with any game, it's easier to follow once you've played it a bit. give it a try with the link in the description! it is free after all
@@WillowsDuality I never played Supreme Commander, but it is a lot more better even by older graphics
Willow could try Simplified Team Colors, which will help a lot to see East Vs. West team much better - at the cost of losing player specific colors.
I'll send Willow some more optimization settings for these (super) large teamgames.
@@WillowsDuality After playing it for 2-3 games, I can safely say that this game has so much potential
You're a sucker for face lasers, but find the brick stupid. Isn't that a little illogical?
Brick has no face.
BAR > Starcraft.