Irish Genealogy Expert Research Strategies
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Sit in on my consultation with professional genealogist Kate Eakman of www.legacytree.com/GenealogyGems as she helps me try and bust a brick wall. Will we do it? A must watch if you have Irish ancestry, but also strategies for everyone. Plus you'll learn what you can do to get the most from a professional researcher.
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My Irish gr grandparents John & Sarah Madden and their son James also immigrated out to Minnesota in the 1860s. Fr Ireland brought many Irish out to the Minnesota from the cities and east coast. My GR grandparents settled in Adrian, MN along with his cousin the Feeney’s John Maddens mother was a Scully too! 😊
I love the Irish records expert's advice. I do use all the databases she describes. Thanks for the opportunity to follow this research. I just subscribed this past week!
Very interesting to sit in on your consultation. Glad you found some new information. Wish I could for my Irish people.
Lots of ideas . . . I have Irish as well as Scottish ancestry. When I get to those surnames on my clean-up/review, I will know what I need to do.
Our local society did a "Ask the Expert" consult similar to your consult except ours was limited to only 15 minutes. Again, you had to have a specific question and provide what you knew ahead of time. It was a fantastic resource. I was able to get results.
Good luck on your continued breakdown of that brick wall.
I know this video is a year old but I have only recently started doing my family tree and this very name is in one of the branches of my grandparents out of Ireland. Probably a common name but the name is there in my family tree.
Some caveats I've discovered using NLI and others: Ireland has CIVIL parishes and religious parishes. The parish she refers to is the civil parish.(think of the county as more like a state and the parish as more like what we call a county) Also being such a small place, Ireland's tiny little townlands are border to border.(meaning unlike the US you can't live "out int the county"). That townland site she brings up on the screen is very useful. You don't generally find these places doing a regular map search. Also, my Irish cousin pointed out something important. During the time you or I was talking about, Roman Catholicism was suppressed. The parish priests often operated like circuit riders doing marriages, baptisms and deaths in homes, thus the delays in records and the state of the records you see on the NLI site. (aside from just age) So they weren't going to mass every Sunday more than likely. And remember the time period you were looking at was during the famine, so for your Scully to be itinerant would maybe not be surprising. Loved this.
The parishes being referenced are in connection to Catholic baptismal records and are, thus, ecclesiastical parishes. In most instances, the Church of Ireland (Anglican) parishes have the same boundaries as the civil parishes. Townlands are not all "tiny" -- some have as many as 1,000 acres. Best not to think of an Irish parish as a county inasmuch as counties are made up of parishes.
Peter Douglas Murphy as to counties I was trying to compare in relative size for the American mind. Yes she looks at Roman Catholic parish records , but you often have to have some concept of Irish geographic references to understand this. I had to locate the civil parish before I could even search in the correct place. Once I understood these references it was all much easier. And I still haven’t figured out civil registration districts for government records because they seem to have their own set of boundaries.
I used to live right there in Minnesota. Thanks for sharing. I am so excited to dig in again.
Amazing video - absolutely fantastic!! I have lots of Irish great grandparents but unfortunately don't know any parent's names at all. But for sure I will do a paid research on RootsIreland to see what I find. Thank you for the privilege of sharing your one on one consultation with a professional genealogist. Sooo amazing! Marilyn Dietiker from Australia.
So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Love, love, love being able to sit in on your consult! Have given me great ideas on a process for Irish research.
All my family lines lead to Ireland!! Thanks Lisa and Kate
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Lisa, another amazing episode! All my families research is based in Ireland so this episode really spoke to me and reminded me to go back to John Grenhams site to find more opportunities to find documents in the townlands I know of. Thank you!
Thank you! It's been so exciting to me to finally have a breakthrough on my Irish line after all these years. I hope you get a chance to watch episode 19 where I share what I did the week following the consultation to fill in the blanks.
@@GenealogyGems Just finished Ep 19! Will definitely make use of the spreadsheet download. And a word of warning about the registers.nli.ie/ website... IT IS ADDICTIVE! lol. I trolled through ALLL of the Ballycullane Parish records over a week last year and ended up filling out my Farrell Family and that lead me to the amazing meet up last summer in Wexford, Ireland for an afternoon tea with the Farrell Family at the Farrell Farm! 16famineimmigrants.wordpress.com/2020/08/19/vi-afternoon-tea/
Question: I have several research logs (finally started doing this during the pandemic - Game Changer!) ... Wondering , where do you file yours? Under Names Researching and each Surname or in one folder of ToDo's? I've been creating mine in Evernote and Google Sheets - not sure which I prefer. Thoughts?
@@cristencarrstrubbe5141 I file the Excel spreadsheet research log under Genealogy > Surnames > Lynch (example) I don't try to get any more specific because it's just bound to get lost, LOL! I also keep a template under Genealogy > Templates. I loved your blog post and recommend everyone take the time to read it.
Really useful video. I've been going round in circles with my Irish ancestry. Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Wonderful!! Great presentation, great information 💕
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have a Noonan in my tree too!
Very good
Thanks, and we appreciate when you share our show with your genealogy friends!
I'm from Ireland itself and you wouldn't believe, or maybe you do how hard it is for us to get records. Also names have been changed a lot spelling wise. A lot of people couldn't spell so it was upto the person doing a document to try and work it, alot did it by sounding it out, then add to that the difference in accents. Yicks.
I tell everyone to sound it out, dont stick to a spelling . Within my own known family I have found 5 different versions of Ardis.
Then our shorten names. Catherine is offen Kitty. Margaret is Maria or Marie.
John is Jack ect, ect.
Great advice! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Well Cheryl, you should give John Grenham’s CZcams channel a watch, but there is a big reason as to why we don’t have much in the way of 19th century especially records or older is actually heavily linked to our own history: The Irish Civil War.
In what were literally the opening shots of the Civil War, the Anti-Treaty IRA members seized the Four Courts in Dublin, which included the Public Record Office (PRO) on its Campus. The Anti Treaty IRA also stored their ammunition in a building adjacent to the PRO and in an effort to help protect it had planted with booby trap fire bombs.
Once the decision had been made by the Free State Government to declare war on the Anti-Treaty IRA, they bombarded the Four Courts. They then breached the Reading room of the PRO which triggered a bomb and caused the ammunition to blow up, destroying the building in which they were stored and causing a fire to spread into the nearby PRO whose windows were all shattered by the massive explosion.
Helpless firefighters couldn’t engage the fire for fear of more munitions exploding and had to watch as for 4 hours centuries of Irish history were devoured by a merciless inferno.
Do you have any suggestions to check eastern Canada ??, my moms moms (grandmas) great great grandfather came from Ireland to u.s in 1934. The Adrian’s lived in heuvelton, ny near the st lawrence river. I know Robert Adrian and John Adrian came to u.s or Canada , and I’m trying to trace the family back in Ireland , Antrim county Ireland. Robert was born in 1808, his son John born 1832.
My granny married a Lynch her name was Mary O Donnell b4 she married lynch
Totally off topic: would live to know what is in those card catalog drawers behind you...lol
I'm sitting here wondering if you have a card for each person in your tree....or just office supplies.. 🤷🏼♀️
Will it be disappointing if I tell you it's office supplies :-) Thanks for watching the channel!
Findmypast said it doesn’t have consults. How else would I find someone?
Go to the show notes page (link in video description) to get the info on the consultants I used.
Did I hear that she said a Maria Scully as a child baptized? My Margaret also used maria as a name
No, as far as I know her name has always been Margaret, though later in life she was referred to as Maggie. Thanks for watching!
I wished I had found this a few months ago when I first started been trying to find my husband's father and what I've learned is not everything on the webs is right because my husband asked my sister-in-law who had been doing this for a long time I'm talking years to find out about his mother's maiden name and instead she builds a fake tree with the father's name that's on the birth certificate well my hair just said that that's not a match for him they cannot line him up with his family no match she didn't believe it and she made a tree anyway very upsetting because she was just asked to search the mother's maiden name trying to track some of the information down since she was deceased but now there's a fake tree on my ancestry in my husband's name I've called him and ask him to take it down I send them my screenshot of the no match but it's still up so I don't know what to do about the problem because I have one for him on my heritage that says it's not a match