Pokemon Trainer: The WORST Smash Bros Character Ever Made - Know Your Moves (Wii U)
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- CHARIZARD'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE!
In this Know Your Moves, we talk about the journey of the Gen 1 starters (Charizard, Ivysaur and Squirtle) and why the overall design of the Pokemon Trainer in Smash Bros was not very effective.
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Know Your Moves is a series dedicated to find out why things are the way they are in Super Smash Brothers. This means looking at the history and other external factors to analyze certain design traits and their purpose in the game!
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Music from Super Smash Brothers Brawl and Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green - Hry
And they're back for Ultimate - except this time they're good without all the bs mechanics!
Woot Woot!!
RelaxAlax yay
it would've been better if the three were a single independent character
Awesome!
RelaxAlax Lol you're kind of late to your own comments section
The pink one is based on IntroSpective which is a 100% true fact
No cap
I dont remember asking
@@Sinsmoke_ You clearly cared enough to reply to a two year old comment, bud.
@@andymcclurg9916 they’re 100% your average TikTok user lol
Yep
2:27 That Charizard was level 31...
*HAX*
NANI
Bruh you are right
It must be Lance's.
**Intro Plays**
Me: "This reminds me of a certain person wishing to life a quiet life, I think his name was Yosh-"
Snake: *T H E R E*
icage Kira
My name is yoshikage kira and i am 33 years old. My house is in the north-east section of morioh where all the villas are. I am not married.
Killer Snake has already C-4ed the floor.
My name is yoshi munchakoopas I’m 33 years old
... *Yoshi?... I'm sorry.*
Charmander: "I'm alright".
Squirtle: "I've felt better".
Bulbasaur: *"I have crippling depression".*
***** 😂😂
+Neon Kid Did Bulbasaur actually say that? I thought it was a reference to idubbz when he said that jokingly. In this instance, I would call Bulbasaur, ibulbs to idubbz.
+ADAM CASTLE I wish bulb said that ): If bulb didn't say that, what does it say then,if it doesn't say that?
Neon Kid Tag your self I'm Bulbasaur
Neon Kid Just give him a chance ;-;
Don't disrespect my boy Ivysaur.
Dairy King it's a girl
[ Insert Did you just assume my gender? joke here ]
Do you put milk in your cereal first?
Dairy King
in smash it's a girl
Dairy King i agreee LEAVE IVYSAUR ALONE! The only one if they three I am ok if you insult is fucking Charzard
Ivysaur in ultimate to charizard: WHOS THE JOKE NOW BYOTCH
proceeds to show off up air hitbox
Yeah
Maybe ivisaur is better than charizard in ssbu
But for charizard is a JOKE
Ivysaur is now the worst Pokémon again
@@moncay3238 you buffoon
Charizard is the worst, saur is good, squirtle is great
@@chefdunsparce4254 somebody didn't see some patch notes
"Rip Rock Smash. The best Down Special"
...did you just predict the future
I actually missed Pokémon Trainer in Smash 4. It was a pretty unique idea that needed better exeggcution.
P Sharpe don't you dare try to casually sneak in that pun you god damn pizza shit!
Puns are Onix-acceptable!
P Sharpe do you have no shaymin
BaxFloyd ! he ABSOLutely doesn't
I can see my Pokémon puns aren't wanted here. Good Eeveening, gentlemen.
I can't seem to escape Jojo lately...must be the work of an enemy stand.
Super Penguin Bro U mean a ENEMY STANDO??
Matt blacker NANIIII???!!!!!
Super Penguin Bro yare yare daze
Drazerg1 God I love a good jojoke
OH MY ARCEUS!!!
That intro actually got me into Jojo and now it’s my favourite anime ever. Thanks dude
Bruh
Bruh
You forgot to mention how Squirtle’s running animation is the move Surf.
In Brawl, it was just a simple running animation.
1:55 "this lizard is done" ha lizardon the japanese name, you think I wouldn't catch that
vin w Hahaha... its not funny.
I have to agree with you there
vin w That's cause charizard is a lizard
Anthony no that's just his Japanese name
Anthony technically you're incorrect, lizard is not in Charizard, izard is. Also, he isn't a lizard, he is classified as a dragon
You forgot about Squirtle's move when he doesn't charge Water Gun. If you press the special button twice, he uses Bubble.
Cynda Stuff im sure he'll cover it at the end of the year when he does the things he missed :p All i wanna know is if Charizard and Squirtle are effected by electric based attacks in brawl
Cynda Stuff he does?! I might have used it before but probably didn't notice
EspioMetroidNano Zard and Squirtle don't take more knockback from electric attacks in case you were wondering. They were screwed as characters enough, that would've just been insult to injury.
How did I never know this. Damn.
wat!
This aged poorly. lol
Why
Guillo 15 Cuz Ultimate
@@liamryan7239 the video still aplies well
This aplies to brawl
...no they fixed the problems this video points out.
It's the opposite of aging poorly
12:04 "It's not just not just a boulder, it's a rock"
If the 3 Pokèmon are all half-baked, doesnt that make the Pokèmon Trainer 150% of a character?
Mrlego105 that makes it overcooked, which is even worse
the math doesn't lie.
well u cant use the, at the same time
Illuminati: Don't you fucking move
Detective Pikachu wants to know your location
Jesus Christ, is the opening a Jojo reference in FRLG ost?
Mathew Ricafrente Yes lol
0:00 JUST realized this is a fucking jojo reference. I never really watched that show when I originally seen this video
literally came back after watching part 5 just now
fuchsia** hey! How was it?
@@cgnfake6721 amazing. poor doppio tho ;-;
The scrubs above me are actually weebs lmao
I never watched jojo, where you can watch it in brazil (it can be in english or japanese with subs)
1:57
Charizard: * exists *
Cat: *M ÖÔÒÕØŌ ÑŃ ČĆ HÇ Č*
Ok I know this is obvious but I'll still mention it for you for the eventual 50 things I missed episode
Squirtle's Water Gun does do damage, but you have to cut it off in the beginning because it has extremely short range
does do
Ladies and gentleman. Give a round of applause for pointing that text flaw
*Audience Applause*
Tell him what he's won,Tina
HE WON A CHAINSAW
Panter elmateracker VRUM RUMRUMRUMRUMRUMRUM
Yeah that was obivious forge there.. So bad that did he even try research?.. ,or did he just looked at it once, and hope he's right scenario.. Because EVEN I KNEW THAT.. It wasn't hard to explore about that water gun secret..Squirtle squirts.
I would just like to mention that the likely reason Charizard’s up-B has super armor is because, in the Pokemon games, when a Pokemon uses FLY, they’re invulnerable to damage for one turn (save for exceptions like the move GUST). This is reflected in that he cannot take knockback when using it in smash.
Cvo777 Charizard can’t learn fly, right?
@@megaagentj2248 Only in Red and Blue
Masked Lumen oh thanks for telling me
@@megaagentj2248 charizard could learn fly in every Pokémon game after yellow. I'm guessing you haven't played in quite some time lol
They attacc,
They protecc,
But the best of them all,
They’re back and don’t succ
12:04 being copyright-muted is the biggest tragedy of 2020.
Do you think he will upload a uncensored version on a different website?
Would you say Pokemon Trainer was poorly...
Exeggcuted?
badum tss
Sans what's it like to possibly be in the next game? Does it feel...
Smashing?
AYYYY!!!!!
Louminati Sans didn't happen. He never had a chance, anyway.
That pun was too
Well guess what boi, STAMINA AINT A THING IN ULTIMATE.
Hopefully weaknesses won't be neither!
Det Mig How do you know that weaknesses are gone?
Joe King they mentioned it at e3
Shame 08 No, they didn't. They just mentioned that stamina is gone.
Joe King I just rewatched the direct, they say the weaknesses are gone as well
Am I the only person who actually liked Pokémon Trainer in Brawl?
Stephen Reed no
I loved him in brawl
No
He was my main
No
Relaxalax: 1:13
Smash ultimite: Im about to end this mans whole career
This video came out years before ultimate
It actually came out the same year as smash for the switch in 2017
@@toxicatgaming4880
??? Wha-
Smash ultimate came out in 2018-
*Introspective gonna be real pissed*
MHMM
CRAZY, NOISY, PALLET TOWN
jojo reference?
Pursuit
Jojo AND Hoenn French horns...
Good day this is
Sunny Days
Yes!
Withdraw is actually a really good move in Ultimate
Hey, now the stamina is gone, soooooo
Is he a good character now?
MatiCC7 El Patata yes.
An Instrument yes
Yes!
*no*
@ no
And then Project M rectified this mistake of a character by splitting them up and fleshing them out.
White Sand Cosmos Solar beam synthesis and seed bomb best thing to happen to ivysaur
papa bless Project M is the light shining in our darkness
And Melee, in my opinion, is the darkness in my light called Sm4sh
White Sand Cosmos I am not upset or anything, but I question if that was necessary - as opposed to just fleshing out Charizard. On their own, Squirtle and Ivysaur aren't very interesting. I'd rather play as Blastoise and Venusaur, if anything.
I don't understand this attachment people have to shit characters that were rightfully discarded for future Smash games, particularly Pichu and Young Link. YL I can almost see; if they hadn't canned transformation, I liked the idea of him changing into his three forms from Majora's Mask, just y'know - better designed than Pokemon Trainer.
Donny Lurch Project M was just a fan mod though. They modified Squirtle and Ivysaur instead of replace them for several reasons, the most important of which being it's far easier to modify what already exists than it is to create something from scratch. I'd much rather play Ivysaur over Venusaur and Squirtle over Blastoise but that's just my opinion. It would be cool to see their return to Smash proper, but only if they were given a proper overhaul.
I'd also love to see Pichu come back to Smash. Sure he's weak but that can be a fun gimmick. He was a great handicap when I played with friends that were terrible at the game for instance. He's also just a Pikachu clone so it wouldn't take crazy resources for it to happen. Toon Link's moveset is basically the same as Kid Link, so I don't feel he needs to come back at all. While you're mask concept is good I'm under the impression that most people want that for Skull Kid.
The Trainer actually _did_ continue on in Subspace Emissary stages. Do you remember those weird laser beams that would shoot across the screen & do nothing? That was the Trainer freaking *teleporting* to their next background position.
Ooooh yeaahhh..... The Nostalgia is flooding back
So he has an abra in his party as well
+Neko Luis
No, he has mewtwo. The real reason it wasn't playable in Brawl was that it was busy poofing the trainer around.
+Jascha Bull Clever
Neko Luis That's what I thought too!!
Charizard didn't become a standalone in Smash 4 because he was the best out of the tree. Pokemon Trainer players basically just played Squirtle, and only switched when it got tired, before trying to go back to Squirtle. Or in a bad matchup, where they did use Charizard. Ivysaur was absolute trash in Brawl. Seriously, Squirtle was the best out of the three by far.
Charizard was picked because it's fucking Charizard, one of the most popular Pokemon of all time. Not because it was any better than the other 2 (OK it was better than one).
As a squirtle lover I was mad when this over hyped lizard came back
Exactly when i played pokemon trainer i almost only used squirtle
Hey, just like the actual game!
"Well, it kind of sucks honestly but stupid children buy the stupid wannabe dragon so let's keep pushing it!"
Drew Armstrong, The Glorious Lobster Emperor best designed character
Finally some truth
4:03-4:07 Yeah, ok up arial, backward arial, and... oh no...
The Gator xD
If they do a smash 5 I hope they bring back a Pokemon trainer that's updated without type differences and stamina. For some reason I actually liked using ivysaur..... until I needed to recovery
Kaeden Ngai-Natsuhara Venusaur would have been better with moves like ingrain gigadrain and synthesis
Ivysaur is by far one of my favorite characters in project m, I feel like they really showed the potential that character had in brawl. I'd suggest checking it out if you've never tried it before, although his recovery is still vine wip :P
Kaeden Ngai-Natsuhara but the recovery is really good
Cue the “BA-HA-HA” edits xd
Or just have the Pokemon trainer then have the Pokemon separate.
I think the "Lickitung" palette for Charizard might be a reference to Pinkan Island, a location in the anime where there's fruit that turn Pokemon that eat them pink.
ChibiTails yes i think so.
ChibiTails it was a joke
IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE!!!!
Finally somebody of culture
Hiper was here...
Why does everybody say that its so annoying
@@Millekop to be fair, this video literally does reference jojo
Why do you question it? Makes me wanna "curazhy diamondo"
is that a frick-frack-diddly-dackin' jonnithin "jojo" jostar? reference
Excuse me while I sigh with enough force to stop za warudo...
He Who Says Truths *SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH*
I think Pokemon Trainer was one of the most bold characters. I would like the same transformation mechanic but with Majora's Mask Link and his Mask forms.
Yeah, that would be cool.
Steven Bowser I've always thought that would be an amazing idea
How 'bout Eevee being able to transform into its different evolutions? That'd be another pretty interesting application of a mechanic like that, but honestly MM Link would be way better
Sato Pokémon adventures anyone?
Young link needs to return like this. Bombs are overrated.
I freaking LOVE that JoJo's reference in the beginning. Best one I have ever seen in my life time.
1:56
Cat, why are you eating plastic?
Also you missed mentioning Charizard's Custom Moves in Smash 4
But again, itll probably mentioned in the eventual 50 things I missed episode
*I DISAGREE VEHEMENTLY WITH THAT TITLE*
*_HOW CAN HUMANS AGREE WITH IT_*
PooDoo DrillDick *I KNOW I SURE CANT*
Joopsh Whort *I AGREE VEHEMENTLY WITH YOUR PROFILE PIC*
6:09 wrong it doesn't need to evolve to learn water gun. It learns it at about level 10 I think.
Edit just watched a little later in the video and I must say something
LEVELING UP AND EVOLVING ARE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS!!!!
*Why you gotta expose him, fam?*
Yah I watched another video and he said "Mewtwo doesn't learn Shadow Ball by level up." You don't say
Guys, he've literally said this on every video where it's pertinent:
He does not care about Pokémon!
This was the best CZcams intro ever 🔥🔥🔥
Bring back ivysaur pls
Piezano L0rd yes..
maybe even venusaur, so it’ll be even more powerful
Venusaur would be combofood do.
They could totally make Ivysaur and Squritle unique, I mean give Ivysaur like petal dance and poison powder, and give Squirtle his Hydro Pump from the Anime.. Maybe even give him a costume with his Squirtle Squad Shades, maybe let them evolve in game, that would be a weird mechanic but still fun maybe. (Squirlte being my favorite of the 3 starters, but i don't dislike any of them)
Plus Ivysaur's up smash was the destroyer of worlds.
*OH FUCK A JOJO REFERENCE*
"Crazy Noisy Verdanturf Town" is my favorite anime song.
10:45 Oh, I always thought that was a reference to Ridley! Well, at least we have the real thing now.
If it is Three HALF baked characters makes the Pokémon Trainer 1.5 of character making Him better than all the other characters
Jabwarrior 58
Would you rather have 3 pieces of half raw meat or 1 good piece of meat?
The Great Valoo damn insensitive much, kids in africa would have anything
*BlackFire*
Well ok, give them the half raw meat and I'll take the good meat
The Great Valoo half raw is actually a legitimate way to eat steak
The Great Valoo is the one piece cooked, or raw?
im sorry but Project M ivysaur is better than all of them combined
Man i really miss him, he was very funny to use and unique.
Down throw, Up smash, Up Air, Up Air, Down throw, Down Air, Down Throw, Hyper Beam. GG
The fact that his Up smash, and Up and Down air healed him, made him amazing.
Ivysaur has potential to be broken. If you can use him on a level that has a particular nook, you ca just hold B and send your opponent up to 999% My friends have banned me form using Pokemon Trainer in Brawl. (luckily we play project M and Sm4sh now so its all good)
And Project M Squirtle is even better
Nah nigga Ivy is the better match but in that fight, Projectile game will fuck over Squirtle
Bro, how did you misspell “Bizarre” in that freaking amazing opening? Yare Yare Daze
3:41, Woody's laugh in the background?
The "That is a nice boulder. NEVERMIND I DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE" Killed me, and it's 5:30 in the morning .________.
12:00 , for anyone who wants to see it without scrolling through the video
My guess: Sakurai saw how nobody switched between zelda and sheik in melee and that's why he added forced switching on respawn and the stamina mechanic to PT. He wanted people to play all three pokemon, not just one, because otherwise, what's the point of even having a combined character like this?
Good point.
Adam X because brawl is a casual game
the entire concept of brawl is being fun and not complex, meele is a game where you praticaly use only fox and falco, brawl is not a competitive game, and the characters, the mechanics and most important, the subspace emissary show this
arthur pires the best 0layer in melee mains peach and sometimes uses fox :p
You honestly scared me thinking that my headphones broke during the rock smash segment.
Didn't understand the begin until I started watching Jojo. I'm on part 6
Pokemon Trainer is actually one of my favorites.
eb boy same here
same
eb boy me too
Same here! Pretty bummed he didn't make it to Smash 4.
eb boy Yeah, he was the only character I used in brawl.
I didn’t ask for Ivysaur, but I really like Pokémon Trainer in Brawl. Also putting milk in your cereal is the right way. Only the weirdos put their cereal in their bowl of milk (unless that milk is residual milk from the first bowl of cereal).
orangeapples lol
orangeapples cereal first!
orangeapples Yo who actually eats their cereal with milk
+Bineth Abeysekera
People that like soggy cereal I guess.
Weird people, son. We don't speak about them.
Table Fancy Honestly Soggy Frosted Flakes is really good
12:09 dammit copyright now there’s no Music
I FREAKING LOVE THE INTRO! nice jojos references
Pokemon Trainer was my main. I used squirtle to rack up quick and easy damage then switched to ivysaur to get that final push into the death range. Finally I switched into Charizard and used rock smash to finish the enemy off.
i would only play as Squirtle, Ivysaur is useless to me in smash and Charizard is too slow
Good Combo. I'll try that in Ultimate.
Kevino Casino what does it mean by penalty by switching between Pokémon in the new smash when they talked about Pokémon trainer they said no more penalties when switching between Pokémon did it used to that in brawl?
2:28 how the fuck do you have a Charizard at lvl 31?
Probably caught one out of the wild
How does smash Charizard learn fly when he can't fly in Pokemon????
Pastel Castele he can
I got more likes
Pastel Castele He can since yellow version.
Nobody
Me:
Pressing down B twice everytime I die in brawl so I can switch back to squirtle
Me when I first saw this video: lol this opening is funny is it an anime?
Me now: CRAZY NOISY BIZARRE TOWN
IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING JOJO REFERENCE
no
nah
Nah, it's from Naruto. Good guess though!
Drazerg1 THERE'S ALWAYS TIME FOR A JOJO REFERENCE!
KAKYOIN !!!
I stand by my 9 year old self from the release of brawl when I say Pokémon Trainer is undoubtedly the COOLEST addition to Brawl and it blew my god damn mind and everyday I mourn the loss of him to the 3DS' shitty hardware.
Removal of the strange stamina mechanic and tweaking the effectiveness system would've helped IMMENSELY
In a perfect world. Transformations are relegated to up-taunt and Sheik and the like have true Down-B's. They are freed of their 3 move curse.
Poopmin S T A N D
Poopmin Exactly. It seems like Pokemon Trainers "unike traits" were just unnesecary nerfs.
The reason transformations were removed was because MashedPotato Samurai didn't want any one character to have more than one moveset that you needed to learn to play as or play against. I would have preferred if characters like Sheik/Zelda and Pokemon Trainer worked out though, the concept had potential.
Brian Muir I believe it was also mainly due to the 3ds hardware.
Just Noticed: during the intro, the characters that fly by do so in reverse order of when they got a KYM show. Nice touch, Alax.
Fun fact (late i know) the way Change works in Brawl is actually very interesting. It has to physically load the data from the disc, so the times for switching can vary. If you pause or it lags online (when it had online) it might be faster. If multiple Trainers switch one after the other, the others will wait for the first one to finish, before going one after the other, as it can only load one Pokemon at a time. If you're in Team Battle and you are both trainers (or you use the same color glitch) if you switch into the same Pokemon as your color copy, the change will be nearly instant as the data is already loaded. This also applies to Zelda and Sheik's Transform. This method of switching has been changed in Ultimate to a set time.
That's actually super cool!
Thanks for that random fact
Wait that was winthdrawl? I always thought it was rapid spin. Which even in the anime worked the same... weird.
Wacka Doodle it’s funny cuz one is totally useless in competitive play. I mean competitive Pokémon, not competitive smash.
Wacka Doodle lol I’m with you it’s literally rapid spin. I still call it rapid spin knowing it’s not officially because that’s not what withdraw is. He should use withdraw for his shield.
Well, In Super Smash Bros Ultimate, it looks like they fixed some major issues with Pokémon Trainer. The Pokémon get summoned much more quickly, and they no longer feel fatigue. Hopefully, once the game is released, Pokémon Trainer will be a more popular and better received fighter.
P.S. It's not just Red anymore, now you can play as Leaf!
Guess who's back (back)
Back again (gain)
I have the exact second of when kira shows up on screen by the music, and from what I saw, kira is Lucas. Ouch.
The trainer’s brow skin could be a reference to the Gameboy’s color palette
You don't like something i like! Unsub, dislike, and reported to the fbi
He doesn't have my intersests REEEEEE HANG HIM AT THE GALLOWS! BURN THE NON-BELIEVER! KILL THE BLASPHEMOUS REEEEE!
BURN HIM AT THE STAKE
MGCR Joke's on you, he's Canadian
Well that's why I phoned the CIA! Take that, foreign sovereignty.
MGCR guess you can't take an opinion
The intro is top notch dude!
I'm still sad the trainer himself isn't playable. They really missed the boat for a summoner character.
I wanted Ivysaur
And I wanted spongebob
#ShrekForSmash
Cody Natale says the guy with a pichu profile.
Pokemon Trainer was my main and I hope all three characters come back as their own playable characters. I honestly thought the design of Pokemon Trainer was genius.
I got good news
Since PKMT is coming back, got any tips on how to turn me from a Youngster skill level to an Ace Trainer.?
:)
Richie Gonzo Gaming
ay me to
"This lizard is done."
I see what you did there, Cat.
I think you got a copyright strike on the song you used on the part with the boulder's grave. The audio abruptly cuts out for a second now, even though it didn't used to.
They split up Pokemon Trainer because of 3DS limitations.
Which was one of the few good things that came out of the limitations. Not only did we get charizard as it's own standalone character, but all characters that could transform had their own slots too and new abilities to boot.
Only downside of course being that ice climbers got cut, but hey! If that rumor of "Smash for Switch" is true, you can guess who will be he first returning character.
mas8705 and no ice climbers
mas8705 wait... why the fuck do you want ice climbers back? sakurai even said they wouldn't be coming back because there's no game coming for them.
TitNinja Cause Ice Climbers are cool. (Pun intended)
TitNinja. THEN. WHY IS THERE. DUCK HUNT BYE
charizard has a golbat costume
... my life is a lie
I love your videos, but you just earned your subscription from that opening alone!
I love it how the description says that this video is vader on Smash 4
Please Nintendo.
Next Smash Game...
Put in Pokemon Trainer again.
Or more preferably, *add back both Ivysaur and Squirtle.*
I fucking *loved* playing as Ivysaur and Squirtle.
Never was really a fan of playing Charizard though.
Haha same here buddy. I loved the pokemon trainer concept but I disliked charizard so much.
they should put all older characters in, (without DLC)
they should replace charaizard on the pokemon trainer with Dragonite.
They should just add Squirtle and Ivysaur back in without the trainer. That way, we could play the Pokémon we want for the whole match and Squirtle & Ivysaur could get the same buffs as Charizard.
If only they were all in as a stand alone character
Charizard wasn't chosen to return because he was better, he was chosen for fan service.
Michael Davis if they were gonna choose it based on fan service it would've been all 3 dumbass
@@sepantap they didnt have room from all of them
@@EduardoHatchet I'm going to have to disagree on that one. He's not exactly top tier in Gen 1, but he is one of the strongest sweepers in Gen 1 UU due to his speed, Swords Dance, Earthquake, and Body Slam/Hyper Beam. He wasn't top tier or anything, but Gen 1 Charizard could have been a lot worse. It's also worth noting that, in Gen 1, the OU club is pretty heavily restrictive, so more Pokemon were UU than not, so that isn't actually that bad.
No, Charizard started sucking in Gen 4, aka the generation that gave Rock types Stone Edge and, more importantly, Stealth Rocks. In Gens 2 and 3, he was effective as a late game cleaner due to getting Belly Drum that generation. In Gen 4? No. Losing half your health for switching in makes Belly Drum completely unusable, so Charizard lost his biggest toy to play with, along with any hope of surviving an attack. It was gens 4 and 5 where Charizard was useless. In gen 1, he was tolerable, in gens 2 and 3, he was potent, but required set up. In gens 6 and 7, well... Mega Evolution exists.
@@michaelbesser5348 when i said he was worthless in gen 1, I meant that he was not worth using in comparison to other pokemon, (and the fact that he could't learn fly wich made him a bad choice for a regular playthrough) and I knew that in gen 1 and 2 he wasn't that bad (that's why I said he -kinda- sucked) but I also knew there were way better pokemon, and the stealth rock thing
@Sepanta Payghamy Something tells me you don't know what "not enough power in the system's hardware" means.
of course i put milk in my cereal first
im not an animal that puts the spoon in the bowl after i pour the cereal
The fkn woody laugh. Look forward to the hopefully new series of relearn your moves for returning characters which can be shorter and discuss the small changes
pokemon trainer is not the worst character in smash history, by far he is not.
DeathZelta ewe yeah at least he was fun. And fun to fight against. Then you look at characters like Bayonetta that juggle you for the entire match and suddenly Pokemon Tekken in Smash doesn't look so bad afterall
He’s saying Pokémon Trainer was poorly designed. It was a good idea and in the end it was fun, but the stamina and effectiveness mechanics hindered the overall concept and fun of the character in some way.
Black Dragons Just because a character is OP doesn’t make them badly designed (at least in the same way as Pokémon Trainer.) Bayonetta’s combos are actual combos you can do in her games so her overall design and concept as a Smash character was handled very well (even though it makes her pretty OP)
Star Falchion sorry I just think "dumb gimmics" and "overpowerd as fuck" are both bad designs
DeathZelta ewe F#CK WITCH TIME AND THAT UP KICK THING BAYONETTA USED
Wow, all these years of playing Pokémon, and I'm just now learning that you learn moves not by leveling up, but by evolving!
tsukinoakuma I don't evolve my Pokemon
I just decided to come back here really quick to see the Crazy Noisy Bizzare Town OP again.
Still as great as I remember
The fact you used Crazy Noisy Bizarre Town makes me happy inside.
*Obviously* Charizard returned as a standalone character in Sm4sh because he's one of the most popular Pokemon of all time and Sm4sh needed more heavyweights.
I just need to point this things
1. In pokemon games it's common to teach pokemon tm/hm attacks,
2. You can use fly in battle,
3. Charizard side-air looks more like slash or scratch than dragon claw.
4. In his final smash he uses moves fly and fire blast.
5. His custom neutral special 1 is fire fang from pokemon games
6. Custom side specials 2 and 3 are blast burn (that works kinda like in pokemon games as it's more powerful attack)
and dragon rush (that is not a fire type move both in smash and pokemon games).
bullet seed can hit a max of 5 times, and in smash, bullet seed can be held for up to 5 seconds, dealing up to 50% damage.
When I first saw this, I didn’t get a JoJo reference, but then I saw JoJo and I love it
And thus this video is now a historical piece on what once was.