Exclusive Interview: The Talos Principle 2
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Joel Goodwin talks to Croteam about the highly-anticipated sequel to The Talos Principle.
00:00 Opening
00:54 Introducing Croteam
01:55 What is The Talos Principle 2?
03:25 Was it an easy decision to make a sequel?
05:52 Game structure
10:41 Lasers and sigils
11:14 The replay mechanic & mind transference
12:38 Undo
14:28 What makes a Talos game?
16:57 Will we find out what happened to Gehenna?
17:41 Will it be sad?
19:13 The music of Talos 2
21:11 The final question
25:04 Credits
All music taken from The Talos Principle soundtrack by Damjan Mravunac
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I remember playing the first game and at some point, it occurred to me: "This is the most beautiful game I have played in my life". I'll get the sequel on Day 1.
Yes, it's one of the few games I've played in my life where the idea of beauty is realized. I believe the music is the main factor, it's so beautiful, it helps create that atmosphere so well, it's just amazing.
@@jpa3974I was grateful that Croteam allowed me to use the Talos soundtrack on the interview. The music is a huge part of what makes Talos, well, Talos. -- Joel
It has some of the best writing in any game I've ever played. And the gameplay and puzzles themselves are up there with the best of them imo
Same! There have been a few games in the last 10 or so years which are in a similar ballpark both in terms of gameplay and themes, off top of my head Portal, The Turing Test, The Witness, The Swapper, Soma. But for my money Talos is in its own league.
That's because you never played The Witness.
I was blown away by Talos 1. No doubt, that game sits in the top 5 of my all time favourites. It was such an emotional experience on top of all the satisfaction that came from the puzzle solving. I just can’t wait for the sequel.
"So we wont force an opinion on the player"... That might be one of the most refreshing statements of all time. Day 1 purchase and thank you writers of Talos 1 and 2!
I really liked that part while playing yeah.
Talos Principal was pure magic. I cannot wait for the sequel
To me, the talos principle 1 is the only game that really matters. Other games are mostly about entertainment, but TTP is so much more beyond that and has greatly influenced my life. Cannot wait for the sequel!
Same, no other game has marked me as much, it’s much more than a game
I'm glad there are not many of us, but we can relate
I have full faith in this sequel. These team leaders all seem passionate about the game and seem to understand places they fell short in the first game. I really like that instead of ignoring the fans and reusing the play button or listening to the fans and getting rid of it, they created a similar puzzle element that gets rid of the problem fans complained about
Much more than a game. It's like travelling to a world of tranquility, spirituality, sanctuary, and enlightenment. I've been gaming since the earliest days Pong and Tank, own more than 2000 games and none of them have evoked such deep and lasting emotion as TTP; a remarkable adventure that makes you contemplate not only solving the puzzles, but also about one's own existence! I particularly like Verena's comments regarding the portrayal of the character who had a point of view different from her, but decided to be objective in the casting. It's these sort of details that make this a great game!
After 19 hours in the game (halfway through the story I assume), I am so thrilled about the second encounter. Not only is it visually communicating about the players expectations, it also combines new puzzles (very well conducted) with less frustration and a very rewarding feel (even more than Talos 1).
I wasn't expecting that amount of production quality. "The Talos Principle 2" is top of my alltime favourite puzzle computer games list. It is well thought, much loved by Croteam, the characters are incredibly well voiced, it is more lively without loosing the lonelyness feel and has the best suck-me-in-one-more-riddle-factor. Croteam did very well on taking the right amount of time to develop this gem of a game.
Only with the philosophical aspects I frequently think: Either I'm not on the same intellectional level or its character-mumbojumbo. In other moments the topics reflect my understanding totally. Reading the texts were sometimes a thank-you-next, but the audio logs support that experience (so that experience is intentional).
Overall I am not only addicted to the second installment, I love this game very much! Thank you Croteam for investing so much skills into the next chapter. This game is my christmas gift 2023. If there ever will be a third game, take your time because quality matters most. =)
Soundtrack-wise the so far heard music reminds me constantly of dido and soft cell. I guess, that is also intentional. 😏
I can't wait to play The Talos Principle 2 ! The first one really was a philosophical experience ! And I'm so happy to hear that Damjan Mravunac is also doing the music that was such a big part of the first one !❤
I really loved playing Portal 1 and 2, and once I completed them several times I was hoping for another challenging puzzle game. One of my coworkers pointed me to The Talos Principle. I tried the Demo and I was really amazed about the athmosphere in the game. Game mechanics are so different to Portal. However I enjoyed every moment, so I bought the game and the DLC.
The original game was challenging, the DLC Road to Gehenna in some places was too difficult for me.
I am really looking forward to the sequel, it already is on my wishlist on Steam.
Thank you Joel for sharing the talks with the Croteam guys. I guess I will play Talos again ❤
Remembering the music of the first part I'm already crying.
Thank you, Damjan Mravunac! Thanks to the whole Talos team for the sequel. This is the kind of game you want to live for.
The music is some of the best music I’ve ever heard. Now playing the sequel- the music it’s the same level of intensity. What an artist, what a team
I used to be very "by the rules" person, as I thought rules is the only way to maintain order in my otherwise very chaotic life. Also, I'm naturally quite conservative.
But playing The Talos Principle had me reconsider my views, and I have since changed my mind. I imagine it's a really high praise for an author when their work profoundly impacts the core worldview of the audience.
The Talos Principle one of the best games EVER and it leave you with so much thoughts about live and death and memories, love it so much and look forward to second part!
Insta-preordering idc the cost! been waiting on this for YEARSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
Played all DLCs and every single community made workshop out there for Talos Principle!!
Glad to hear that they've tried to present the viewpoints of the characters from a neutral perspective. Neutrality when it comes to philosophy, politics or other world views you don't agree with is pretty hard in today's day and age. Let's see if they've accomplished it and respect to them if they did, especially in such a game.
I want to thank whoever manually typed in the subtitles. They are *_very_* helpful in understanding what the Croteam developers were saying.
I'd like to take credit but they're CZcams generated! -- Joel
@@thinkygames How is that possible?! 😲Their accents are too thick to understand!
@@WorthlessDeadEnd I understood them fine when I was running the interview but I work with some Ukranians so I guess I'm familiar with eastern European accents. Maybe Google is too! - - Joel
Thank you so much for this incredible interview with this amazing team.
Talos is one of my all time favorite games. I just cannot wait to experience the sequel.
Thanks CroTeam ❤
I think a puzzle game should always avoid requiring speed and timing. That's why I consider Portal 2 as a much better game than the first one. But in Talos, I actually liked the recording mechanic. Good timing rarely was an issue for me.
I liked it because you could for 95% of the recording puzzles leave as much room for your future self to properly do the action you need to do
I'd be standing there doing nothing for 15-30 seconds even if I could do it in 5 seconds with the recording
If this makes sense how I've written it
The recorder puzzles were the most difficult, but also the most rewarding to finish. They take me back to the 90s adventure and puzzle games where you had moments that were just very rough on the player with solutions that don't seem to make sense. Where you had to quit the game and think about it until a solution comes to you, maybe days later. Modern games are always so careful about player retention that you don't see things like this anymore.
The primary reason I wasn't a fan is that experimentation is much more expensive in these type of temporal puzzles, where you end up waiting around a lot, especially if you're adding lots of buffer time to your solution. And if you got the setup wrong - one step not quite close enough to where you needed to be, start again. That the skill sometimes was not solving the puzzle, but having patience and attention to temporal detail. It's interesting to analyse but I've generally bounced off games which have similar mechanics. (eg Rose and Time, Induction, Echoplex) But they're definitely rewarding when you succeed. -- Joel
@@thinkygames i love that the recording mechanism existed, but god did I not enjoy doing it.
Wich is why i HATED the bomb levels in talos principle where timing needed to be perfect
Just finished Talos 2 today, and I really hope it sells well! The first game was truly great, yet I feel like 2 managed to be significantly better and bigger. Huge props to the devs! The world is really pretty, the puzzles feel great and occasionally hurt just enough for me to gloat when I beat them, and the characters feel genuinely human. I can't wait to play it all again!
Still working through the Southern region myself but I 100% love the game. -- Joel
Talos among the games is what Roman Empire is among all the empires and kingdoms. Just the best
I really liked how the game built on the first tto have questions about even more complex yet different topics like community issues and divergences. Can't wait to see what a third onee would aboard.
I truely enjoyed the interview. Got many goosebumps because the cast - showcased in this interview - is great and I loved hearing them. Looking forward to The Talos Principle 2! 😍
I honestly can't wait for this game. I loooooved and still love the first part and all the DLCs which came with it. I played it so many times and never gotten tired of it and I'll never will. So hyped for this one. The announcement for TTP2 was a very awesome suprise. :)
2 days :)
Thank you creators for this game! Amazing and big! :)
Awesome, so hyped ❤ cant wait for release
Talos Principle is possibly my favorite game of all time (in close competition with Uru and the Myst series).
The atmosphere is beautiful and feels incredibly real, and the puzzles are all masterfully done, enjoyable, rewarding, and most important of all incredibly difficult (but that's what makes it so great).
I was elated when I found out they were releasing a sequel, and have pre-purchased the game already. I can't wait to enter this universe again, and experience another masterpiece.
Ah, the Myst series…, the story, the atmosphere, they were incredible! I bought the box set which took ages/years to complete, pages of notes with my scrawled clues everywhere. I went to work so tired sometimes. I may have another go now I’m partly retired... after Talos 2, of course.
I like the game but The Talos Principle: Road To Gehenna had challenging puzzles and that is why I prefer it. That is my personal preference of course. Do people like hard puzzles...I think not and that is why developers have to make let's call them casual levels and optional for the players who like a good challenge. Bonfire Peaks is a prime example of that, you can finish the game very fast but the optional levels are there and they are the fun part for the thinkers :) Good luck to Cro Team.
I gravitate to games with hard puzzles but, yes, a game exclusively focused on the difficult end will necessarily have a hard time getting a lot of sales. I agree, Gehenna was excellent (although I can quibble about Crater 😉). -- Joel
November 2 LETS GO!
With how quick they pumped this game out compared to Serious Sam, something tells me they care way more about this series from now on. I still think we’re waiting another 9 years for the next serious Sam
Talos is one of my favourite games of all time. High hopes for 2!
as soon as i can pre-order thIs i will !
That & the cyberpunk DLC which i already pre-ordered ...
I just found out about this sequel and I preordered it immidiately.
There's a month left of waiting so I'll probably replay the first game AGAIN (lol) as a warm up for the sequel.
Can't wait.
This is an amazing interview and I'm so excited for the game
Can't wait to feel the emotions and be a part of the experience!
Thank you, Croteam.
I'd really like to know if/when VR will be supported in TP2. At release? Later?
I hope At release
So incredibly excited for this game. The first was such a gem
I hope the soundtrack is on par with the first one, all of the tracks were great and complemented the aesthetic of the game really well. Just Pre ordered 👍
loved Talos 1, am mid way through Talos 2 and am loving it even more. ty for the game guys
Working my way through the DLC! --Joel
I've never clicked the "Pre-Purchase" button faster!
Extremely excited for this game
I can already tell this game will be my personal GOTY
❤🤟 Big important question will this also be in VR?!?!?!
Cant wait for talos principle 3
I hope we get more puzzles than the original, as 120 puzzles is quite the shoe to fill.
Multiple times, Davor Hunski wanted to stress it was a bigger game - although how much you engaged with all that size was down to you
The first game was fantastic in VR.
I will not go back to playing this flat.
>>>>>> VR mode is a must
Looking forward to streaming it
I'm extremely excited about this game! ❤❤❤
It's great! Looking forward to this game
I never finished the first game even though I loved the feel of the game because of how different it is. I will admit that I did not have the will for too hard puzzles at the time, so I put it on the backburner, and sadly never finished it.
I have pre-ordered the sequel on PS5 however, and I just feel such a game makes more sense in a couch infront of a TV.
Thank you⭐
Can't Wait. Can't Wait. Can't Wait.
It is big shoes to fill but they can do it. I have trust in this lovely studio
I Loved the 1st game, it was unique, with engaging philosophical story involving AI, reality & religion. The puzzles got increasingly difficult but addictive & the huge areas to explore always had surprising bonuses that were unique.
It’s sad the last game wasn’t so popular, it’s so creative, mind-blowing & extremely clever. Solving the puzzles made me feel like I completed an IQ test. I’m absolutely excited about playing the new game, thanks to the amazing creators at Croteam for such impressive, mind-expanding games
Great interview, can't wait to dive into the new world Croteam has created for TTP2!. Btw i recognize you from a video of The Witness (the unbearable now).
Always nice to be recognised. At least I didn't get slapped in the face in this video! --Joel
already in the wishlist
I only recently found out about this game, and of course got it
I just beat it today, it was absolutely amazing, i loved it, and love these kinds of games, im really glad thinking people make thinking games for thinking gamers
I did like the harder difficulty of the first one though, i did enjoy all of the new puzzle devices but the complexity was kinda too easy, there wasn't enough to really stump me long term
i did enjoy the Road to Gehenna star level difficulty puzzles, they were mostly small but quite unique, was hoping the gold door puzzles would be real complicated, and some were tricky, but not deep
I'm sure there'll be some DLC and I'd expect it to be on the harder side of the wedge. --Joel
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Талос лучшая игра всех времён и народов 🖐️😀🔥🙏🌞
no fraking way ????? talos principle is getting a sequel ?? !!! this is insane i am so hypeddd. it looks so greatt. even though i didnt completely 100% the first one, i loved playing until the end. i cant wait !!
I have been waiting for this for yearrrrs -- Joel
Nice interview
Thank you! -- Joel
The cat ending! :D
Only for those who wait 😉 --Joel
"Do we get the rewind mechanic turning up again in Talos Principle 2 ?"
"Would you like to ?"
11:36
I laughed SO HARD 🤣
My favourite moment -- Joel
Love croteam always special to me
I already preordered the game, now counting down to release date. I’m just wondering why I paid less than 30 euros for a game that looks like 50-60.
I wish they'd release some system specs. I really dont play games often but I'm really excited to play this. My PC is due a graphics card upgrade, I don't want to overspend just to play one game 😅
You can always request a refund from steam
You've probably played it by now but in case you haven't, I use the Low preset at 720p with a nine year old GTX970 and consistently get >60 frames per second.
In my workshop series of TTP 1- Mysteries from beyond the grave, I created some new mechanics - The chasing mine and Teleporting Switch. I m so excited if in the TTP 2 will be some more. I can not wait what this game offers . It must be masterpiece, like a previous one. ❤️
I just found out about your workshop series, i'll definitely have to check it out! Can you make this available for the VR version? Its' workshop page is very neglected and all the community mods are for the 2D version. I have gotten most of the puzzle campaigns like Ranamo's to work by manually extracting the .gro files into the VR version's directory, but for the ones that rely on extra model packs like "prototype" i get an error because those files aren't digitally signed to match the VR build.
@@peshozmiata Hi, i dont know how to make it to VR version, I never thought about it yet. Maybe in the future I will check it, now I m focusing about puzzles in MFBG 7.
@@PreshoPr I just tested the first two parts (MFBG1,2) and they work in the VR version. The campaigns have to be installed from the workshop for the 2D version, then their .gro files need to be manually copied from their folder in:
\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content
to \Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\The Talos Principle VR\Content\Talos
If these could somehow be published for the VR version's workshop page it would be easier for new users since Steam would just install them there. I will test the other parts and let you know if something is broken.
Oh, great, good to know! But I m sure I did not put the VR entities for FANS, maybe there will be a problem in gameplay?
@@PreshoPr I had no idea the fans even had separate VR variants. I've played through a bunch of 2D workshop campaigns with fans in them like The Fourth Dimension and never saw an issue with gameplay. The only ones i haven't been able to get running on the VR version are the ones that rely on DLC that was only bundled with the 2D version like the "Prototype" assets and levels. Those .gro files can't be "transplanted" by moving the files because the game detects them as "unsigned". Shroedinger's Cat is one that uses those assets for torches on the walls and such
The thing I'm most curious about is: What will the system requirements of the game be? I would like to play fluently with my GTX 1650ti computer at medium or high settings :')
heh, I only got a 960 and I'll buy it
I wasn't expect a sequel to this game ... can't say I'm not SUPER happy about it. At the time I used the game for thesis in Philosphy.
I hope it will be steamdeck playable
I played a lot of puzzle games and The Talos Principle always stood out to me. Not only cause of the story, but mainly because I got so much playtime out of the game. If I trust Steam on the playtime, I spent more time playing Talos than Portal 1+2, QUBE 1+2, The Turing Test and The Witness combined. I mean 4 of 6 were done in around 5 hours or less each.
From what I have seen in the trailers and a 10min alpha play test, I am still excited, but also a little worried. Seems like the overall difficulty might have gone down, but I might be entirely wrong on this. Guess I have to buy the game and see for myself.
My impression is that it would be easier to finish the game but not necessarily easier to complete everything - hard stuff is off the main path. Also, the plan is for the puzzles to be quick to implement a solution but that doesn't mean it will be easy to find that solution. An example would be the recent Magicube where the puzzle are very simple yet confound the player - I played only completed two levels in 20 minutes (the best kind of puzzles IMO). But we will see! --Joel
I'm still confused about gehenna, even after playing the sequel
I love Talos so much and Gehenna as well. But there's no chance my computer can run it.
Will there be Talos in gamescom 2023?
You didn't ask if we would fight Mental in this one
Oversight on my part --Joel
I’ll have to check but is Talos II playable on the PS4?
Hi, I'm pretty sure it's PS5 only. The graphics are pretty demanding. -- Joel
But what happened to the kitten!?
Coordinates moved outside system boundary. Program terminated. -- Joel
Will this still be made in the serious engine?
I believe it is developed on the Unreal Engine, but haven't seen an official source on this. -- Joel
Played the demo. Runs like crap, FPS drops down to 17 fps in the main (city) area. Interesting story af, great puzzles, but not at all optimized. Hope they fix it till release.
Thankyou for this interview. ❤
this is so nice
Thank you! --Joel
Great freakin interview