@@Edgekeeper747 I got started into this whole budget knife thing by watching tool sale videos, $11 Duratech with g10, mystery steel, and axis lock. I was amazed by the action. I probably haven't bought a folder since the 1990's. So I was blown away by that $11 dollar knife and since I have found great steel too for under $30.
@@alanlindsay4762 And It looks like quality and machining and manufacturing. I remember when there were two easy knives to avoid, ones that said china and ones that said pakistan on the blades. China has stepped up their game!
4:30 that's the Mini Nightshade. It comes with crossbar lock and thumb stud configuration only. The handle and steel options vary tho. The larger full size Nightshade has the deployment options. Flipper, thumbhole, and studs. Liner-lock only.
Have you noticed the Vision FG has a little mark on the sharpening/finger choil when it starts to widen up? That's a pretty cool little detail that you don't usually see on most other knives
If I didnt just pick up a Mini Arius, I'd have picked up that Kubey. A dude on reddit was saying his got gunked up immediately in his woodworking shop with all the sawdust.
I have the same Titius from the video, same color and everything. For $100, it is superb! Action is fantastic. The target HRC is 60-62 instead of the 58-60 they do in their other 14C28N knives, and you can absolutely tell the difference. Totally changed my opinion on 14C, I wish everyone ran it that hard
That exclusive Elementum got me all excited for a minute! The way the light was reflecting off the edge when it was laying in the table, it kinda looked like a drop point Tanto. I was ready to hunt for one, but the you moved it and my hopes were crushed 😢 for real though, I’m kinda glad you moved it cause I would’ve wasted sooo much time trying to find a knife that probably doesn’t exist
See the love marks on almost every knife ? That’s why your opinion is so valuable to me and the knife community. Thanks for testing your knives for real !
Love the video man! Not sure if you’ve noticed this, but the Vision fg has the stop pin in the spot you always complain about lol right behind the edge. Not a big deal as you can just cut in a new choil. Still, great user.
Jared your list looks like pretty much as mine. But I still have a point that we discussed few days ago. I was telling that for me I cannot understand that an edc shoud exceed much than 100.00 unless you have particular needs. You answerd me that I have to strated somewhere. I own some premium knifes. But it's not true that I will use my AC Boa timascus S90 mirror polish as an edc. I would scare to scratch it the firtst day. I cannot afford it😅. A good knife in Nitro V or 14C28N is more than enought for me Insted of sharpening it twice a year it will be 3 times. Does a 300.00 bootle of wine is 3 times better of à 100.00 bootle ? No. You did few comparo with ultra premium knifes against budget one and the difference was close. I love too much my Boa Timacus S90 for a hard use. 😅 Thanks Jared👍🏻
I just got the knifecenter exclusive s35vn and carbon fiber scales. I’m not sure if I’m going to go with micarta or original goat scales, but it’s done very well, it’s nicer than my regular version.
Jarad, i picked up that Sofirn IF23 flashlight that you gave the discount alert on. It's bad to the bone. Then i grabbed another sofirn, a werkkos, and an olight. You sent me down a brand new gear junky path. Lol. Thanks, tho.
Budget knives are a tough subject but this is a pretty decent list. Yeah there is a lot of Civivi on here but they just make really good knives for really good prices (mostly)! I need to try out the Vault I love the look of it and I hope they do a premium version of that knife because it just screams class!
I bought the same kizer drop bear for $65 on ebay, there's a knife center exclusive with blue scales and cpm 20cv for $140. They been had it for some time now.
I'm surprised that you still have the Civivi Vision FG as your number one at this time. It's more than halfway through the year. But I have to say I can't disagree with your choice. Just got my second one in the Damascus blade and micarta scales. Good video, Jerad. Thanks
I would wish for a much larger version of the Kizer Mini Grouper and/or the Vosteed Nightshade. It is a longer wait for knives up here in "China"da but I will likely get the Kizer when available. Very content with the QSP Vault, as it is one of the more stout knives, with a great design. I just need bigger versions of these great folders. 😀 Ok maybe not need per se, but would be glad to have available.
It may be just me, but I look at the knife steel rankings on Larrin Thomas's site, and NItro-V is just not good. It's tough. I will give it that. But the edge holding is no better than 8CR13MoV. They are both a "3" on edge holding. I know that edge retention isn't everything, but it should count for something, right? Even old 440C beats it. Heck, 440A has better edge retention, and no knife reviewer would recommend a 60 dollar plus knife in 440A or 8CR13MoV. Why do NitroV knives get a pass? Is toughness that valuable?
I didn't understand why in the spine test in the Civivi Vision FG only the one with Nitro V didn't fail. I was going to buy this knife, but that test discouraged me a bit; they seem to be inconsistent in strength.
The Civivi Sentinel Strike - as absolutely amazing as that knife is, it's fairly easy to fail the deployment. And it seems that might be due to the fact that Civivi put washers in the blade pivot, rather than bearings. I simply don't understand why they would do that on an $85 knife. I have plenty of $30 knives with bearings that are smoother.
I enjoyed the video and a number of interesting knives, but I feel like the KNAFS Lander 1 (the original liner lock version) should be on this list. D2 or 14C28N available for less than $100. Maybe this list is a little heavy on the fidget factor.
The fit and finish on my pyrite lite is second to no for what i paid for it, $29.99, but i gotta say, i would put it up against most 50 to 70 dollar knives. Thing is solid.
I've had the civvivi odum and elementum. For some reason i break knife tips. Its a thing with me. And they broke faster than others. I really wanted the slim blade for the slicing ability, but it seems im stuck on the overbuilt knives
I ground the flipper tab down so its hidden when open on my Mini Grouper and its SO much better that way. It should have had no flipper tab and a FRONT flipper tab instead IMO. Otherwise its a really cool knife and Im not the biggest dan of that crazy forward lean to blades like Shillen Cutters.
Budget knives are still under $60 and many of them are extremely good knives. I even have a fixed blade that costs $25 and is better than $130 Esee. So with all due respect I call this list a total gear snobs BS list. P.S. D2 varies from 58 to 63 HRC depending in heat treament. It is an absolute champ of a steel. Just because it costs less does bot mean it is had you (again) gear snob
Basicly been looking for the best edc knife for around 125 130 bucks I was leaning toward kiser drop bear and vision fg but that leaves like 40 bucks on the budget😂
The Zoltan’s has been out of stock for awhile. It is available from someone else but at a higher price. It would be great if you could find out from them when it will be widely available again. I love this knife and want to give some as gifts, but can’t get them.
Pyrite lights are $29.99 on Amazon right now, grabbed one a few days ago. Wasn’t gonna get one cuz of the black blade, but at that price i thought “who cares” lol
It absolutely blows my mind how much value Asian manufacturers manage to pack into the tsunami of knife imports. Collecting these inexpensive knives presents a rabbithole where sanity is challanged to its covetous limits. It's intoxicating. The only way to sober up is to buy "American Made", where the price points will calm your happy ass all the way down.
Went to the Kubey website and found a knife I wanted used the code but then it said it wouldn’t ship to my address so then looked on Amazon found the same knife for the discounted price not really a deal unless amazon has the same one going on
A very overrated knife. It has a lot of disadvantages, ranging from crappy hardening of the steel to a loosely fastened clip. I'm completely disappointed in him.
This isn't personal towards NK, he does a great job. This is an opinion things...I hate the Vision. It's such a boring knife! It gets hyped a lot, yeah it's a good locking system, bla bla bla. I never carry mine because there are a lot of equally good knives out there that are WAY more fun to carry! Take it for what it's worth.
The Drop Bears have ALL gone WAY up in price lately. The Micarta versions (the superior version because smooth ALU scales suck) is _OVER_ $100. Crazy town. Thanks Joe Biden.
I don't know Jared, I love your channel but you have way too many civivi moves on here. The elementum will bend in your hand when you squeeze it. That civivi with the integral back spacer is hideous looking. I like civivi bit for me all of their knives all sort of just look the same.
I've never had my elementum bend in my hand, and I've thoroughly tested it, in fact I even have an edge retention test on it, and civivi are some of the best because they beat most knives in same category in most ways from durability, cutting performance, edge retention, etc..
There is one reason for that. Civivi in budget knife are just hard to beat. And don't say they all look the same. They produce knifes with so différent look. Qubit, Sentinel, Elementum, Stormhowl , etc etc. They make knifes that they directly Come from WE knifes. As customers, we are lucky
@@NeevesKnives Sorry bend may not be the right word. If I pinch grip the elementum (G10 version), I can see the G10 and the metal liners bend but it does spring back. When I grip it tight in my hand I can also feel it bend/spring/give in my hand. For me that is a deal breaker. Bugout and Manix 2 lightweight also do this. The elementum is a nice form factor, it's just a great average knife. It was my very first EDC. Now what I know about knives (but definitely not on your level of course), I think it is far from a best budget is all. Good knife though.
@@alanlindsay4762 how do you get attention seeking from an opinion on the elementum? How would that even generate attention? You should look in the mirror, it's you looking for attention =P . Now to answer your question .. I agree with many of his list, I'd swap for QSP Penguin, spyderco tenacious, Kershaw iridium.
@NeevesKnives The reason you can't find any of your Vision Fg's is because they ran away from home because you best the living shit out of em. They figured they'd runaway and find a freakin group home that'd be safer than living at your place 😮😂😂😂😂
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"Budget" is in the wallet of the beholder.
I agree to me budget is $70 or below. $90+ ain’t budget
true dat
@@Edgekeeper747 I got started into this whole budget knife thing by watching tool sale videos, $11 Duratech with g10, mystery steel, and axis lock. I was amazed by the action. I probably haven't bought a folder since the 1990's. So I was blown away by that $11 dollar knife and since I have found great steel too for under $30.
Exactly. Budget for knives goes down with other expenses going up. Math ain't mathing.
@@alanlindsay4762 And It looks like quality and machining and manufacturing. I remember when there were two easy knives to avoid, ones that said china and ones that said pakistan on the blades. China has stepped up their game!
The mini Grouper is legit! Great performance slicer
Kubey! Looks awesome! Love these videos. Thanks for creating this sort of excellent content Jerad!
Civivi does use good looking Damascus. But if you get a Civivi in Damascus, make sure it’s the core Damascus. I also like Kansept’s Damascus.
I spotted a Vision FG for $30 at my local Swap Meet. Best come up😂
4:30 that's the Mini Nightshade. It comes with crossbar lock and thumb stud configuration only. The handle and steel options vary tho.
The larger full size Nightshade has the deployment options. Flipper, thumbhole, and studs. Liner-lock only.
Have you noticed the Vision FG has a little mark on the sharpening/finger choil when it starts to widen up? That's a pretty cool little detail that you don't usually see on most other knives
Agree the drop bear is a bugout kiler. Like that new nightshade !
Drop Bear was August 2022 aparently. Time flies!
Damn
If I didnt just pick up a Mini Arius, I'd have picked up that Kubey. A dude on reddit was saying his got gunked up immediately in his woodworking shop with all the sawdust.
I have the same Titius from the video, same color and everything. For $100, it is superb! Action is fantastic. The target HRC is 60-62 instead of the 58-60 they do in their other 14C28N knives, and you can absolutely tell the difference. Totally changed my opinion on 14C, I wish everyone ran it that hard
That exclusive Elementum got me all excited for a minute! The way the light was reflecting off the edge when it was laying in the table, it kinda looked like a drop point Tanto. I was ready to hunt for one, but the you moved it and my hopes were crushed 😢 for real though, I’m kinda glad you moved it cause I would’ve wasted sooo much time trying to find a knife that probably doesn’t exist
There is a tanto Elementum.
Do you know of any other knife folder that, in the same spine test, would not result in the blade closing?
See the love marks on almost every knife ? That’s why your opinion is so valuable to me and the knife community. Thanks for testing your knives for real !
Picked up an s35vn Drop Bear with red frag micarta for ~$90 and its been an absolute monster user
Love the video man! Not sure if you’ve noticed this, but the Vision fg has the stop pin in the spot you always complain about lol right behind the edge. Not a big deal as you can just cut in a new choil. Still, great user.
Hey Jerad when is your knife gonna drop? Sorry about asking here
I agree with the OG BL Elementum. My fav button lock in my collection. Makes me want the new RCB BL with the same type of setup.
You sound like Gronk in moments. Your video about your past and journey is awesome and inspiring, love your content and channel dude ❤
Another badass list video brother🍻🤘
Is it called the Kizer mini grouper or is the one he’s showing a full size one? Cause I can only find ones called the mini grouper
Jared your list looks like pretty much as mine.
But I still have a point that we discussed few days ago. I was telling that for me I cannot understand that an edc shoud exceed much than 100.00 unless you have particular needs. You answerd me that I have to strated somewhere. I own some premium knifes. But it's not true that I will use my AC Boa timascus S90 mirror polish as an edc. I would scare to scratch it the firtst day. I cannot afford it😅. A good knife in Nitro V or 14C28N is more than enought for me
Insted of sharpening it twice a year it will be 3 times. Does a 300.00 bootle of wine is 3 times better of à 100.00 bootle ? No. You did few comparo with ultra premium knifes against budget one and the difference was close. I love too much my Boa Timacus S90 for a hard use. 😅 Thanks Jared👍🏻
Just got the CJRB Pyrite XL, all steel version, this week. It's sweet. I think it will satisfy my pyrite craving.
I just got the knifecenter exclusive s35vn and carbon fiber scales. I’m not sure if I’m going to go with micarta or original goat scales, but it’s done very well, it’s nicer than my regular version.
Yeah, the Vault is probably one of the best budget knives of the year.
Jarad, i picked up that Sofirn IF23 flashlight that you gave the discount alert on. It's bad to the bone. Then i grabbed another sofirn, a werkkos, and an olight.
You sent me down a brand new gear junky path. Lol. Thanks, tho.
Budget knives are a tough subject but this is a pretty decent list. Yeah there is a lot of Civivi on here but they just make really good knives for really good prices (mostly)! I need to try out the Vault I love the look of it and I hope they do a premium version of that knife because it just screams class!
The LW pyrite is stupid good. I just got mine and cant put it down. It just feels so good in the hand than the other versions.
You are right Jared about D2. When well make it's a very good steel. What about Medford that make 700.00 knifes in D2 ?😅
I remember when D2 was custom only.
The Vosteed Mini-Nightshade in S35VN/Carbon Fiber is one of my nicest knives.
I bought the same kizer drop bear for $65 on ebay, there's a knife center exclusive with blue scales and cpm 20cv for $140. They been had it for some time now.
The pyrite light handle needs to be wider I've nicked my palm twice when closing
I've had the Civivi Vision FG for over half a year now and can only confirm your opinion about it.⚔️👍
I'm surprised that you still have the Civivi Vision FG as your number one at this time. It's more than halfway through the year. But I have to say I can't disagree with your choice. Just got my second one in the Damascus blade and micarta scales. Good video, Jerad. Thanks
I would wish for a much larger version of the Kizer Mini Grouper and/or the Vosteed Nightshade. It is a longer wait for knives up here in "China"da but I will likely get the Kizer when available. Very content with the QSP Vault, as it is one of the more stout knives, with a great design. I just need bigger versions of these great folders. 😀 Ok maybe not need per se, but would be glad to have available.
Thanks for the content here man. You are absolutely crushing it. And that's the bottom line...'cause 2 Bones said so! 😂
👊 thanks brotha
You bet man.
It may be just me, but I look at the knife steel rankings on Larrin Thomas's site, and NItro-V is just not good. It's tough. I will give it that. But the edge holding is no better than 8CR13MoV. They are both a "3" on edge holding. I know that edge retention isn't everything, but it should count for something, right? Even old 440C beats it. Heck, 440A has better edge retention, and no knife reviewer would recommend a 60 dollar plus knife in 440A or 8CR13MoV. Why do NitroV knives get a pass? Is toughness that valuable?
Yeah I found that out recently it goes dull quickly .. zI did sharpen it very quickly and easily and what a great edge I got,so good.
Nitro V and 14C28N are great steel
The Hedgehog is a banger for the $. It’s a robust, do-it-all compact EDC knife. Except self defense, but I have that covered.
I didn't understand why in the spine test in the Civivi Vision FG only the one with Nitro V didn't fail. I was going to buy this knife, but that test discouraged me a bit; they seem to be inconsistent in strength.
The Civivi Sentinel Strike - as absolutely amazing as that knife is, it's fairly easy to fail the deployment. And it seems that might be due to the fact that Civivi put washers in the blade pivot, rather than bearings. I simply don't understand why they would do that on an $85 knife. I have plenty of $30 knives with bearings that are smoother.
Washers are more durable.
Is there any more budget frame locks? I just never got into the buttons or crossbars as much.
Yeah, Civivi has budget frame locks, if you want premium materials at low cost check out Twosun knives
I enjoyed the video and a number of interesting knives, but I feel like the KNAFS Lander 1 (the original liner lock version) should be on this list. D2 or 14C28N available for less than $100. Maybe this list is a little heavy on the fidget factor.
When can we buy your knife made by reate??? I want one
The fit and finish on my pyrite lite is second to no for what i paid for it, $29.99, but i gotta say, i would put it up against most 50 to 70 dollar knives. Thing is solid.
I've had the civvivi odum and elementum. For some reason i break knife tips. Its a thing with me. And they broke faster than others. I really wanted the slim blade for the slicing ability, but it seems im stuck on the overbuilt knives
I ground the flipper tab down so its hidden when open on my Mini Grouper and its SO much better that way. It should have had no flipper tab and a FRONT flipper tab instead IMO. Otherwise its a really cool knife and Im not the biggest dan of that crazy forward lean to blades like Shillen Cutters.
Budget knives are still under $60 and many of them are extremely good knives. I even have a fixed blade that costs $25 and is better than $130 Esee.
So with all due respect I call this list a total gear snobs BS list.
P.S. D2 varies from 58 to 63 HRC depending in heat treament. It is an absolute champ of a steel. Just because it costs less does bot mean it is had you (again) gear snob
Basicly been looking for the best edc knife for around 125 130 bucks I was leaning toward kiser drop bear and vision fg but that leaves like 40 bucks on the budget😂
The Zoltan’s has been out of stock for awhile. It is available from someone else but at a higher price. It would be great if you could find out from them when it will be widely available again. I love this knife and want to give some as gifts, but can’t get them.
Just release The Benny video already, im dying here!
Hourra for the Elementum. And i buy the Night shade to !! ^^
I'd like to see a 4" blade version FG. Damn good knife, but tiny for me
Thanks for video. What is the name of knife with changeable blades?
would love to see a video of best of 2024 under 50/55
I’m sad course my Elementum Button lock has up and down play, not sure how though.
Pyrite lights are $29.99 on Amazon right now, grabbed one a few days ago. Wasn’t gonna get one cuz of the black blade, but at that price i thought “who cares” lol
I have Civivi dessert warrior elementum 2, super sweet knife.
It absolutely blows my mind how much value Asian manufacturers manage to pack into the tsunami of knife imports. Collecting these inexpensive knives presents a rabbithole where sanity is challanged to its covetous limits. It's intoxicating. The only way to sober up is to buy "American Made", where the price points will calm your happy ass all the way down.
Well said.
when did that qsp vault switch to 154cm? they were 14c28n i swear
I want that kubey but I need help which color should I get.
Great line up my dude have a good one
Went to the Kubey website and found a knife I wanted used the code but then it said it wouldn’t ship to my address so then looked on Amazon found the same knife for the discounted price not really a deal unless amazon has the same one going on
I want a full sized nightshade with the crossbar lock so bad. I don't understand why that hasn't happened yet
True dat!
hey my brotha jman/jerad, great blades n great vid n content , you keep em coming , i love em all 1 million % , thanks n talk soon brotha > tom !
Here is an idea. Budget pocket folder you would baton with.
"Hand puppetry".
Take a drink every time he says Rock Solid.
Or “phenomenal.” 😂
Hey jerad just wondering why is my bevel really wide at the tip and thin at the heel
I know I'm not Jerad but assuming your angle is consistent while sharpening that would be because it is thicker at the tip than it is at the heel
What's confusing is it's only like that on one side I know I holding an angle
Still waiting to grab the fision fg
A very overrated knife. It has a lot of disadvantages, ranging from crappy hardening of the steel to a loosely fastened clip. I'm completely disappointed in him.
Pro tip, it's pronounced "ti-chus" 😊
Yep it's a tishus, fellas
Funny I lost my civivi vision fg like you lol
neeves send me one of them elementals
This isn't personal towards NK, he does a great job. This is an opinion things...I hate the Vision. It's such a boring knife! It gets hyped a lot, yeah it's a good locking system, bla bla bla. I never carry mine because there are a lot of equally good knives out there that are WAY more fun to carry! Take it for what it's worth.
My green tityus was too inconsistent .Sold it for 100$
Line of the video: “…I have a few different tityus”…”. 😂
I wish the mini grouper had a finger choil on it 🔪
I absolutely hate that carbon fiber G10 combo.
That’s a weird thing to hate. I have a spyderco and a kizer with it and to me it’s no better or worse than just g10.
The Drop Bears have ALL gone WAY up in price lately. The Micarta versions (the superior version because smooth ALU scales suck) is _OVER_ $100. Crazy town. Thanks Joe Biden.
Yeah the same one he had the black with purple thumb studs it’s 120ish there’s only 2 options under 100
I've been sarcastically thankin' various officials, church leaders and executives all day
I don't know Jared, I love your channel but you have way too many civivi moves on here. The elementum will bend in your hand when you squeeze it. That civivi with the integral back spacer is hideous looking. I like civivi bit for me all of their knives all sort of just look the same.
I've never had my elementum bend in my hand, and I've thoroughly tested it, in fact I even have an edge retention test on it, and civivi are some of the best because they beat most knives in same category in most ways from durability, cutting performance, edge retention, etc..
There is one reason for that. Civivi in budget knife are just hard to beat. And don't say they all look the same. They produce knifes with so différent look. Qubit, Sentinel, Elementum, Stormhowl , etc etc. They make knifes that they directly Come from WE knifes. As customers, we are lucky
@@NeevesKnives Sorry bend may not be the right word. If I pinch grip the elementum (G10 version), I can see the G10 and the metal liners bend but it does spring back. When I grip it tight in my hand I can also feel it bend/spring/give in my hand. For me that is a deal breaker. Bugout and Manix 2 lightweight also do this. The elementum is a nice form factor, it's just a great average knife. It was my very first EDC. Now what I know about knives (but definitely not on your level of course), I think it is far from a best budget is all. Good knife though.
@@petertwiss356So we know what you don't like. What would you suggest? Or just here for attention?
@@alanlindsay4762 how do you get attention seeking from an opinion on the elementum? How would that even generate attention? You should look in the mirror, it's you looking for attention =P . Now to answer your question .. I agree with many of his list, I'd swap for QSP Penguin, spyderco tenacious, Kershaw iridium.
The vision fg's stop pin hits right behind the edge
no i was right the qsp vault is 14c28n, i think you misspoke😂
man i think ill pick up a Kubey Tittyusa with your discount code! ❤ 😂haha
Thanks Jared
@NeevesKnives The reason you can't find any of your Vision Fg's is because they ran away from home because you best the living shit out of em. They figured they'd runaway and find a freakin group home that'd be safer than living at your place 😮😂😂😂😂