The Best RX 7900 XTX you can get - PowerColor Liquid Devil

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    - PowerColor RX 7900 XTX Liquid Devil
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:45 Unboxing
    1:14 PowerColor Radeon RX 7900 XTX Liquid Devil
    2:36 Test system with WireView GPU
    3:05 The card in operation
    3:48 Temperatures, benchmarks & MSI Afterburner
    5:06 Makita (Intermission)
    5:17 "Unleashed" BIOS
    5:33 Power consumption OC-BIOS
    5:51 Benchmark OC-BIOS
    6:07 Power Consumption "Unleashed"-BIOS
    6:26 Benchmark "Unleashed"-BIOS
    6:47 Coil whine test
    7:19 Disassembling the cooler
    8:10 Paste & Pads
    8:33 Custom PCB
    9:35 Temperatures in comparison
    10:25 Power Consumption Comparison
    11:26 Clock speeds in comparison
    11:58 3DMark Time Spy Extreme
    12:23 Manual Overclocking
    13:23 Summary/Conclusion
    15:05 Outro
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Komentáře • 522

  • @infernus6278
    @infernus6278 Před rokem +22

    PowerColor is my absolute favorite brand. Top notch build quality, good prices, good warranty.

  • @AdamsWorlds
    @AdamsWorlds Před rokem +172

    I can see watercooled cards being the future. With the size of coolers needed now surly its the cheaper option to slap a waterblock on them. Would like to see "pre built" water cooling also. So you buy a unit with rad, block, res, and they come with 4 pipes 2 for the cpu and 2 for the gpu. Just plug and play quick connect/disconnect. I know this already exists but i can see it becoming a standard with every PC.

    • @pascaldifolco4611
      @pascaldifolco4611 Před rokem +3

      It's also the present for me, as my reservoir (behind front rad) already prevents me to put a GPU more than 280mm long (and I have a rather big Phanteks P600S case...) 😂

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal Před rokem +40

      I am not looking at spending extra 50% to get water cooled card

    • @SlavaBagmut
      @SlavaBagmut Před rokem +5

      It exists for CPU only (AIO) we need the same solution for GPU. Right now it requires custom water cooling.

    • @lamikal2515
      @lamikal2515 Před rokem +4

      @@GewelReal Depends on what base price your 50% came from. You can buy the cheapest "reference card" you can find, and slap a WB on it.

    • @TheInsaneupsdriver
      @TheInsaneupsdriver Před rokem +7

      @@SlavaBagmut they exist already for top end cards, but i can totally see a standardization of quick connect watercooling in the near future. thankfully AMD won't be so quick to even need it.

  • @50H3i1
    @50H3i1 Před rokem +2

    Amazing video
    Really like to see more memory tuning and benchmarks with this card

  • @OfficialJamesNewberry
    @OfficialJamesNewberry Před rokem +6

    Impressive its always nice to see what the top end can do by one of the best. Much Appreciated.👌👌😁😁

  • @greghilliard1767
    @greghilliard1767 Před rokem +4

    I'm so looking forward to using this card. Just have to finish my build!!

  • @thorgen_ironside5279
    @thorgen_ironside5279 Před rokem

    As always Der8auer delivering quality review

  • @Alexandra-Rex
    @Alexandra-Rex Před rokem +5

    I really like PowerColor's Devil logo. It's so simple and clean.

  • @Drock7749
    @Drock7749 Před rokem +24

    It looks awesome! For me though, with that difference in price and the fact it is a strictly water cooled card, there should be a higher power limit than it has or at least the ability to increase it higher than it does without having to mod the bios. Personally the "unleashed" bios should have a bigger difference than it does. Other than that it looks to be a great card!

  • @aryanak1989
    @aryanak1989 Před rokem +6

    Great video,
    I would've liked a performance comparison between that and a Sapphire nitro plus AIB version of 7900xtx in that chart as well. Thanx

  • @dawn-moon
    @dawn-moon Před rokem +14

    I own the "normal" 7900 XTX Red Devil, and at stock bios in COD DMZ, I'm getting peak hot spot of 94 degrees Celcius, in a Lian Li Lancool3 with 6 140mm Corsair Performance Elite fans and 3 120mm fans, same type, installed below the Red Devil. You DO need a lot of case cooling for these power draws. I ended up undervolting 1% in Redeon software, that makes a hot spot difference of about 5 degrees. Coil wine is only audible on some game menus that are not frame capped and run at like 1000 fps. In properly FPS limited menus, you can't notice the coil wine... I'm happy I kept it AMD, from my former 6950XTX Red Devil to this one was just unplug and plug the same the 3 PCIE power cables, done :)
    ( weird thing was that W10 and the latest 6950 driver, did not like my 7900XTX rightaway, it had to be uninstalled, reboot, install , 2 or 3 reboots, then it was done )

  • @Nite-Lite-Gamers
    @Nite-Lite-Gamers Před rokem +13

    I went all out this time and bought a PowerColor 7900XTX LE and to be fair Im over the moon with it and its the quitest card I have ever had. I go into the Amd software and set it to balanced mode and the hot spot never goes over 89c with the fans at around 1700rpm. Solid card, I just wish it was cheaper, although it droped £100 since I bought it but I have no regrets.

    • @TheTick20001
      @TheTick20001 Před rokem +1

      Any coil whine?

    • @Nite-Lite-Gamers
      @Nite-Lite-Gamers Před rokem +2

      @@TheTick20001 Not a note of Choil Whine and to be honest, I was expecting it but I got lucky.

    • @TheTick20001
      @TheTick20001 Před rokem +1

      @@Nite-Lite-Gamers Good to hear (or not as the case may be!)

  • @reloadingdontshoot1
    @reloadingdontshoot1 Před rokem +1

    Was considering this card when i had my loop. Love power colour and their Red Devil line

  • @Juurus
    @Juurus Před rokem +175

    That's a crazy performance improvement, I'd like to see further tuning.

    • @Insertnamehere3000
      @Insertnamehere3000 Před rokem +1

      They always do that

    • @wantedyou2346
      @wantedyou2346 Před rokem +17

      Just use the card as it as and save the money for a future upgrade. This so called tuning to get a few fps here and there is a waste of time and is only good for those with no jobs or those on CZcams making videos.

    • @jamesbrendan5170
      @jamesbrendan5170 Před rokem

      @@wantedyou2346 and you should shut up.
      Just... let people do what they want! Who cares if it's a waste of time, only people that don't have time would say that

    • @gozutheDJ
      @gozutheDJ Před rokem +32

      @@wantedyou2346 look at me I'm going to tell people what they should and shouldnt find worthwhile to them

    • @Dragoon710
      @Dragoon710 Před rokem

      @@wantedyou2346 that''s some fucking stupid advice. Why would you not squeeze free performance out of your card?

  • @orrygel
    @orrygel Před rokem +2

    Your very fortunate to have such good supervisors on scene 🐈😻

  • @timwal1682
    @timwal1682 Před dnem

    Love the video What quick disconnects are you using?? Cheers

  • @NateWheeler1
    @NateWheeler1 Před rokem +2

    I have been waiting for someone to do this test and teardown. Thank goodness it was you. I have the air-cooled Red Devil 7900 XTX and similar performance and clocks. Are there any other benefits of this version other than thermals? I guess maybe smaller profile?

  • @-zerocool-
    @-zerocool- Před rokem +3

    Awesome card, love the GPU power display too, have you thought of doing one for CPU power?

  • @Born_Stellar
    @Born_Stellar Před rokem +27

    I have a 6900x liquid devil, love it. want to get one of those triple 8-pin 180s with the readout, I like the clean look.

    • @rENEGADE666JEDI
      @rENEGADE666JEDI Před rokem +6

      6900 xt x had one problem, locked memory. After overclocking, it did not have such gains as the 7900xtx. That's probably why the 6950xt appeared ;)

    • @0xNobody
      @0xNobody Před rokem

      @@rENEGADE666JEDI I have an LC bios on mine, lets me clock memory to 2400.

  • @the_shameless
    @the_shameless Před rokem +1

    Thanks for awesome review sir! Can't wait to buy this card at half price in a year or two lol

  • @ramblinjay3816
    @ramblinjay3816 Před 6 měsíci

    I love my 5700 xt liquid devil. This is gonna be my next upgrade hopefully soon

  • @cyberwomble7524
    @cyberwomble7524 Před rokem +1

    Sheikh and Makita seemed impressed with it too; high praise indeed.

  • @HappyHubris
    @HappyHubris Před rokem +48

    I have the air cooled Powercolor Red Devil and...you get similar improvement over a stock 7900XTX, albeit with higher temps/fans. Except mine was +$50 over reference price, and this is +$XXX over the reference cooler. And people have reported nice undervolts/overclocks on the reference cooler, too.
    Generally the GPUs that cost +$200 or more over reference just don't give you enough raw performance to justify that price, though some people might prefer to water cool or whatever.

    • @redhel
      @redhel Před rokem +8

      You have to compare it price wise vs buying an air cooled card + a waterblock really. Most waterblocks for the XTX are around that $200 mark so what are you gonna do

    • @ironhelix45
      @ironhelix45 Před rokem +12

      The fact it comes with an ek water block almost makes this a no brainer for watercooled builds. the red devil is 1100+the ek red devil block is another 277. That makes that combo 1377. The liquid devil is 1400. $23 to keep your warranty and not have to instal the block yourself seems like a no brainer. (pricing was in the US, ymmv). If you dont have to pay for shipping on the liquid devil you instantly save money because shipping from ek to the us is around 20-40 bucks.

    • @aonirsplayground6224
      @aonirsplayground6224 Před rokem

      I guess at the top of the line performance/€ goes out the window and you want performance for *almost* any money. But heck even with that mindset the premium on this one is too much to justify, so much so it starts falling in line with products that are like made with gold for no other reason than "yes why not".

    • @4fiHysteria
      @4fiHysteria Před rokem

      ​@@ironhelix45 EK blocks make no sense though, when you can get a cheaper bykski, higher quality similar price heatkiller, or spend more for better performance from something like Optimus.
      And in the US, disassembling your card cannot void the warranty anyways, just put the old cooler back on if you have to RMA it and you're fine. It's what I did when I rma'd my 3090 out of my loop.

    • @ironhelix45
      @ironhelix45 Před rokem +1

      @4fiHysteria byskie needs to have a block available to be able to use them. Right now they don't even have a 7000 category on their own website. They have one for preorder at 194. Ekwb at least has 7900 blocks available to buy and ship out now. Byskie's one block that I saw was for the sapphire nitro +. That card starts at 1200. Add the 200 for the byskie block and you are at 1400, same price as the liquid devil without the hassle of needing to install the block yourself. Also, I didn't mention that it came with the loop leak test kit. 30 bucks right there. Now I know not everyone will use that, but it is added for free. Don't get me wrong, I get that most of the time buying a pre-blocked card costs more than doing it yourself. In this case, purchasing in the US, the liquid devil makes a lot of sense because the cost of the card and block is comparable to buying the base card and base block itself. Most budget blocks that are out for the 7900xtx are for reference only. If you want an aib block your options are limited. I didn't see a heat killer block in my search, same with byskie until recently with their preorder of the sapphire nitro + block. Ekwb is a reliable brand that you can generally always trust the quality of their product. It isn't unreasonable to consider them as a gold standard of the industry. They are the only ones that I have seen with more than one aib block. Availible now, they have the Asus tuf and reference cards with the red devil cards launching at the end of March early, April. They are also the only brand that I've seen that actually has a tab for the 7000 series gpu. Not trying to shill for ekwb but when it's been 3 months since the launch of the card, and you plan on making a waterblock for the card maybe you should have a tab on your website to advertise that you are in fact going to sell blocks for that line.
      Edit: never heard of Optimus and just looked at their stuff, they don't even make amd card blocks, so why bring them up?

  • @christianhinkel9251
    @christianhinkel9251 Před rokem +4

    Now I want to build a system around this!

  • @arch1107
    @arch1107 Před rokem

    i didnt knew you could put the word best and the word power color together in a phrase like this

  • @Horus9339
    @Horus9339 Před 9 měsíci

    I was on the fence on buying a second hand nVidia or a brand new RX5700XT, a few years back now. I purchased the Powercolor Red Devil and have to say I was impressed even back then. It is still running perfectly in my Misses PC, around 100FPS with Rust at max settings. Powercolor do make nice cards.

  • @gsuberland
    @gsuberland Před rokem +19

    I wonder if you could improve the coil whine using the same trick that CRT manufacturers used in the 80s and 90s: potting them in wax, or adding glue to the sides. Back then the reason for the whine was the horizontal beam deflection transformer being driven with a sawtooth wave at 15.6kHz. Would be interesting to see you add some hot glue to the sides of the inductors on a card with loud coil whine and see if it reduces it significantly. You could also try something more permanent like epoxy or cyanoacylate, although you'll probably want to try those on a cheaper card than this one!

    • @sammiller6631
      @sammiller6631 Před rokem +3

      You could improve the coil whine using a better power supply or a neighborhood with cleaner power at the wall socket.

    • @TheHighborn
      @TheHighborn Před rokem +5

      @@sammiller6631 i have a 1300w platinum PSU, and have a brutal coil whine. It's a seasonic model, and the coil whine is terribad. Electricy is clean where i live. it's the card. (I have a liquid devil)

  • @MrPhyrce
    @MrPhyrce Před 6 měsíci +2

    I received my 7900XTX Liquid Devil about 6 Months ago. I have ZERO coil whine, only time you hear the card is 1000+ FPS on blank screens while loading and even then its the quietest card I have ever had. I very much won the lottery with this card.

    • @bigai-ul4ic
      @bigai-ul4ic Před 2 měsíci

      Hey, I was wondering if getting a liquid cooled card is safe long term now that it's been a 10 months since you got it.

    • @MrPhyrce
      @MrPhyrce Před 2 měsíci

      @@bigai-ul4icthat entirely depends on what you mean by safe? I haven't had any issues with the card at all. It depends on what you yourself are comfortable with. I am fine ripping my PC apart to do whatever needs to be done. Water cooling is very much an enthusiast thing to do. I work on PCs for a living and have 0 issues diagnosing and replacing parts or draining and filling my loop. If you aren't comfortable building a pc and doing your own troubleshooting stick to air cooled or hybrid cards. The Red Devil performs nearly identically to the liquid devil for example, without the need for maintenance.

  • @hquest
    @hquest Před rokem +1

    It took me a second to understand the “MBA” terminology. Back in the day, we used “BBA” when cards were built by ATi, which some carried over after the company was acquired by another “A” company.

  • @bluephreakr
    @bluephreakr Před rokem +4

    Hey Roman, had you considered for your WireView thing having the display press-fit into connectors similar to how the Raspberry Pi CU does attachment to other boards? It would permit use of the same display unit across multiple power boards so that less material could be required overall. If I am wrong about this, I am sure your audience will let me know.

  • @AsthmaQueen
    @AsthmaQueen Před rokem +7

    I grabbed a taichi 7900xtx, and planning on blocking it soon but its encouraging to see that this is pretty close to same performance, crazy tho that 2800mhz out of the box on memory

    • @ruokeren1919
      @ruokeren1919 Před rokem +1

      Me too. Just waiting for it to arrive but we’re very limited to water block manufacturers. I only know one but it wasn’t for the Taichi. May have to wait a couple of months.

  • @mateusramos1992
    @mateusramos1992 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What's most impressive to me is that you have a super clean black table and a white cat, I have cat fur everywhere on my desktop, even cleaning everyday

  • @MicD1
    @MicD1 Před rokem

    Just got this card. It’s an absolute beast

  • @fracturedlife1393
    @fracturedlife1393 Před rokem +1

    That's a nice looking block

  • @cadenmiller
    @cadenmiller Před rokem +6

    Wow what timing! I legit just bought myself this

    • @JohnMuz1
      @JohnMuz1 Před rokem +1

      Target audience / perfect, you are the ultimate proof.

    • @oxfordsparky
      @oxfordsparky Před rokem +1

      Out of interest why choose this card? It costs the same as a 4090, is noticeably slower, uses the same power and has less features.
      Genuinely interested.

    • @Tirth-Patel
      @Tirth-Patel Před rokem

      Hope you enjoy it. This is a gaming moment 😎

    • @cadenmiller
      @cadenmiller Před rokem

      @@oxfordsparky I’ve only gone with AMD and I just prefer them and I need the DP 2.1. I also wanted a pre installed gpu water block for convenience and I’m coming from a rx Vega 64 so this card is already 4x more fps im not complaining.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 Před rokem

      You need dp2.1 for what exactly?

  • @h.m.8589
    @h.m.8589 Před rokem +1

    1060mV +15%PL GPU-2850 Mem-2800 was the end stable result with a reference with 2pci-e on water. Mine pulls on average 325w during games. I think the 7900xtx just works so well with water cooling.

  • @BobSmith-gh5wj
    @BobSmith-gh5wj Před rokem

    Great video - whats the difference between the Powercolor red devil air cooled bios and the water cooled bios?

  • @overman330
    @overman330 Před rokem +9

    Awesome!! Guess I’m going with the nitro + (vs the pulse or reference) wasn’t sure if the extra money would equal any performance improvements. This shows it’s plausible and that’s all the encouragement I need 😂

    • @HappyHubris
      @HappyHubris Před rokem +1

      Think about the extra performance per $. The AIB cards generally all undervolt/overclock well as is, so the gap between say a $1,050 card and a $1,200 card is likely very little (silicon lottery applying, of course). The "guaranteed" overclocks on all these AIBs are all much smaller than a simple undervolt on a reference card.

    • @cavedweller333
      @cavedweller333 Před rokem +1

      @@HappyHubris yeah, not going go get that much performance improvement over another aib card, but there's something to say for aesthetics

  • @aquilarossa5191
    @aquilarossa5191 Před rokem +1

    I wanted the standard Red Devil RX 7900 XTX. They are over $2000 NZD though (about 1200 euro). $2K knowing it will be superseded so quickly made me hesitate. I went cheap and got a Red Devil 6750XT new for a little more than half what they were on launch. It'll do for now.
    I also went cheap and recently upgraded my 3700x to a 5900X that was discounted, instead of going 7000 series. I'll wait for the next Zen gen to see if it is any good. I only play a little ESO at 4k, so do not need a supercomputer (it's plenty for my digital audio workstation stuff too). I sold the 3700X to my nephew for an extra large pizza delivered.
    I have to pull it apart, though. I put my M2 NVMe drive in the easy to get to slot. Using that slot makes my GPU run PCI-E 8x3, instead of 16x. I doubt it hurts, but it still bothers me.
    Now I have saved a bunch of money I can catch up on all the electric guitar stuff I need to buy, mod, and maintain etc, e.g., stainless frets on my Strat, or a new USB audio interface etc. There's always something huh?

  • @Serachja
    @Serachja Před rokem

    I'm having similar results with an Asus Reference card and a Alphacool block. So far I'm quite happy with the card on water

  • @hairychesticles1
    @hairychesticles1 Před rokem +4

    I would like to see how much extra performance you get in real world gaming. It looks like the gains from watercooled are much more then last gen

  • @temporaltomato3021
    @temporaltomato3021 Před rokem +5

    Just wanted to quickly say: I would love a product like the triple 8-pin power monitor you've been using in some of these videos. I've got a watt meter for the wall, but when doing things like flashing graphics card BIOS or shunt modding, having a clean power reading from just the component you care about would be awesome. Not to mention the 180-degree angle on the device for the cables; with some kind of cover, it might even make my build look better 😅

    • @69baker69able
      @69baker69able Před rokem +1

      Yep, me too!.

    • @sategllib2191
      @sategllib2191 Před rokem +1

      I can't find one, did he make it?

    • @gsuberland
      @gsuberland Před rokem +1

      @@sategllib2191 He says in the video that it's still a prototype.

  • @zkilla4611
    @zkilla4611 Před rokem +8

    I would say the XFX Merc 7900XTX is the best Air cooled card I have owned. Temps are always below 61c

    • @hoseinqadam
      @hoseinqadam Před rokem

      FOR 1440P maybe, but when I go 4k it gets hot. 78 on the core and 92 on the hotspot.

    • @zkilla4611
      @zkilla4611 Před rokem

      @@hoseinqadam I will test. But my 3080Ti always ran at 78-80c at 1440p.

    • @Squashed8Ball
      @Squashed8Ball Před rokem

      @@hoseinqadam 78C is still a very good temp for a GPU under heavy load.

    • @slim420MM
      @slim420MM Před rokem

      DXR on tends to increase the temps by 30 degrees.

    • @sategllib2191
      @sategllib2191 Před rokem

      That's the card I've been looking at

  • @Arokhantos
    @Arokhantos Před rokem

    I am glad JayzTwoCents showed temps and delta on he's card confirming my temps are about normal, @derbauer do not be afraid to show exact temps including room temp water temp etc its still very useful, and i am well aware at 30c room temp temps go up least 9 to 10c on atleast the hotspot

  • @JBrinx18
    @JBrinx18 Před rokem +1

    I definitely would like that wire view for my 3 8-pin GPU. So the wattage over the PCIe slot is minimal typically, yes?

  • @jeremybarber2837
    @jeremybarber2837 Před rokem +1

    Quite a sweet looking card, especially since it is a true single slot even with the tall pice -> fittings distance.

  • @mattbelmonte8334
    @mattbelmonte8334 Před rokem +2

    Roman, will you be able to compare this to the AsRock Aqua 7900xtx?

  • @nicholasgrogan856
    @nicholasgrogan856 Před 11 měsíci

    This card looks beautiful

  • @BrazenBob
    @BrazenBob Před rokem

    Thinking this will be my first water cooling card 😎

  • @MadViking82
    @MadViking82 Před rokem +5

    I came from Red Devil 6900XT on which I put an Alphacool block. The upgrade path competition was between Liquid Devil 7900XTX and iChill Frostbite RTX4090. Went for the latter due to 2x the RT performance, better upscaling and Frame Generation. The price difference in Asia was only 250€ so it made sense.
    Frostbite has a 450W PL, however it can still be OC'd around 7% by upping the voltage to 1.1mv, and the clocks stay at 3.065ghz consistently at +130mhz core, memory did a solid +800mhz, passing the Port Royal stress test of 30 loops. Temps stay under 63C at worst case scenario, hotspot 75C, most of the time 45-55C core and 55-65C hotspot. No coil whine after the first two weeks of screaming like a pig.
    Just justifying my choice aloud on the internet! :D

  • @TreborSelt
    @TreborSelt Před rokem +1

    I don't know why, but the simple touch of having the LED shine through the acrylic plate, via the eyes, made me giddy. 😂

  • @arjoh2266
    @arjoh2266 Před rokem

    Amazing..performance improvement..👍

  • @vorvort1
    @vorvort1 Před 6 měsíci

    temperatures under serious load? Derauer: no, I won’t show you!

  • @far0sino
    @far0sino Před rokem

    Great video as always. Not that it matters but your clock speed comparison graph has wrong Y axis label.

  • @kentcurrie7326
    @kentcurrie7326 Před rokem

    Another amazing video. And, as an American, I always double-clutch when I see a comma used as a decimal. 😂 Some day, I might build a custom watercooled PC.

  • @bismuth7730
    @bismuth7730 Před rokem

    Cant wait for a video on this card with a shunt mod C:

  • @Nelthalin
    @Nelthalin Před rokem

    Where van you buy the 2x8p version of wire view? I love how it looks.
    I wonder what would have happened with this card if you lowered the target voltage like 50-100mv.since since you are still power limited it would be very interesting to see if you can hit 3000MHz+ with the low temps it might be possible. The clock curve will be steeper.
    Just like with RDNA2 you would want to stay below the power limit on RDNA3 to keep the clockspeed predictable and constant looking at what the cards I tested could run with the stock MBA cooler and power limits 3GHz should be possible with this card if you tweak it to the limit by also Undervolting it a little.

  • @rikogarza1729
    @rikogarza1729 Před rokem

    Mine arrives tomorrow, I was one of the first to leak this when it went on sale

  • @MrGaZZaDaG
    @MrGaZZaDaG Před rokem

    Great review as always 😊 any chance you could download and share the bios for us to try on other non reference cards please

  • @Rmx2011
    @Rmx2011 Před rokem

    Liquid devil cards have always been cool. Badumtss.

  • @nick76dune
    @nick76dune Před rokem

    Thanks!

  • @eliaskauppi7888
    @eliaskauppi7888 Před rokem +2

    Just bought this card for my first custom liquid cooled PC. I agree that the coil whine on this card is pretty terrible, at least with my card it sounds louder than on the video. I'm glad that I can't hear it through my headphones, because otherwise the noise would have pivoted me towards returning the card. Temps and performance is still very good after having Strix 1080 Ti.

    • @kyleboi76
      @kyleboi76 Před rokem

      Where u getting this card from ? I can not find it any where

    • @eliaskauppi7888
      @eliaskauppi7888 Před rokem

      @@kyleboi76 From Jimms in Finland. Proshop too has stock. Dont know about US.

    • @kyleboi76
      @kyleboi76 Před rokem

      @@eliaskauppi7888 Cheers am in the uk been trying to get my hands on a aqua or this but they is nothing they aint even listed

  • @adi6293
    @adi6293 Před rokem +1

    Hey man, what do you think about the Nitro + with a water block on it? I think that would hit 3.0Ghz on the core

  • @mattiacaldera
    @mattiacaldera Před rokem

    If you do some undervolting with OC, you get even better results

  • @antoniocepaj7544
    @antoniocepaj7544 Před rokem +2

    One thing that can also be improved is location for water entry/exit into the water block. Waterblock's slot size or length in most cases isn't issue will it fit insade smaller cases, but problem is width. My question is why not separate those entry/exit points by moving water entrance to top left corner, and exit to bottom right corner, that way even if GPU is vertical mounted or regular, water can have natural flow. + Width of card is reduced.

    • @antoniocepaj7544
      @antoniocepaj7544 Před rokem +1

      Also if they added one more power connector, why wouldn't be possible to have them put at end of GPU, instead of traditional way on side ? That way it would even further reduce width of GPU.

  • @prostreetcamaro
    @prostreetcamaro Před rokem +1

    Installed this card yesterday. After tinkering last night I've discovered this liquid devil undervolts a lot more than the 7900xtx red devil it replaces (got tired of waiting for a water block). Which means it OC's higher. 100 shy of 28k in time spy so far and creeping up. Down to 1110mv. Previous card wasn't stable under 1130mv. Don't currently have 5950x fully maxed so I'm sure I'll go over 28k later when I get back to it.

    • @rENEGADE666JEDI
      @rENEGADE666JEDI Před rokem

      When you go below 3300mhz@1050v, we'll talk. My nitro+ works on these settings in modern warfare 2. But for RT games I have to lower the voltage to around 1085v

    • @ShaneWymore
      @ShaneWymore Před 7 měsíci

      I just installed the liquid devil 7900XTX and noticed that power color didn't install pads on the chokes. There's enough room between the block and the chokes to install them. Weird. I'll be adding pads and repasting tomorrow. I'm willing to bet that coil whine goes way down. Also, without touching settings I'm scoring 31200 in timespy. Boost clocks hit 2900MHz default on Unleashed BIOS. Pretty happy with this GPU, I'm waiting for a replacement from AsRock as I received a faulty GPU in the Aqua OC version. That card hits 3300MHz with the extreme vBIOS no OC but, it draws 530-580W when doing so. I'll play with the values on that one too when the replacement arrives

  • @VforVentouza
    @VforVentouza Před rokem

    I had it for a few days and absolutely loved how it looked and how it ran. Sadly it was not compatible with my VR headset, which I guess is what it is, but the coil whine was just too much. I have a very silent PC on my desk and this was simply ruining it. I'm very sad about it cause I really loved its looks.

  • @Thoringer
    @Thoringer Před rokem +1

    It may be the glue/underfill is there to protect in case someone uses too much liquid metal replacing the standard paste. If it trips, it would more likely drip that direction?

  • @agoogleuser7899
    @agoogleuser7899 Před rokem

    Nice water flow through the block.

  • @itsyaboia-dub1120
    @itsyaboia-dub1120 Před rokem +1

    I would like to see a custom waterblock on the ASRock phantom to compare this to.

  • @3800S1
    @3800S1 Před rokem

    These cards are like the hyper-car posters you'd have as a kid. Maybe when I grow up to 75 I might be able to afford one.

  • @botbeamer
    @botbeamer Před rokem +1

    as long as the coil whine doesn't affect performance or durability I don't mind it, I think the card sounds great

  • @ClayWheeler
    @ClayWheeler Před rokem

    Thumbnail 10/10

  • @nimotech8008
    @nimotech8008 Před rokem

    This is a card I want, and the next GPU will be powercolor liquid devil for sure!

  • @darjanator
    @darjanator Před rokem +3

    Interesting how the EK logo looks very much like the PowerColor logo on its side. Wonder if that played any role in the partnership and should definitely play a role in marketing!

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 Před rokem

      might be

    • @maz-pg5en
      @maz-pg5en Před rokem

      Haha I never realized the logo thing until you mentioned it. There should be a miniature devil logo next to the EK logo on the bottom right

  • @xXmobiusXx1
    @xXmobiusXx1 Před rokem

    Drop the core voltage a bit and the core clocks will rise, a bit of a balancing act. On older drivers I was able to hit 2900 core average, 2714 vram, @ 1045 mv on the air cooled XFX Merc 310 Speedster Black edition RX 7900 XTX. Getting a score of around 7050 on 3dM speedway.

  • @siberx4
    @siberx4 Před rokem

    The difference between the two BIOS profiles is the fan curves ;)

  • @PAPO1990
    @PAPO1990 Před rokem

    My biggest issue with the Liquid Devil cards (I have a 5700XT LD) is maintenance. I had to open mine up to clean it (never using coloured coolant again) and to get to most of the screws I had to destroy the nice metal covers on the front, now they are all bent and kinked, there's no way I'm going to get them flat and pretty again, and underneath them was lots of now ugly glue.

  • @TheHighborn
    @TheHighborn Před rokem

    My liquid devil, with a bit of OC, easily pushes 3ghz in spiderman 1080p (with raytracing). It can spike up to 3.1. I can push it higher, but it's unstable.

  • @B19902133
    @B19902133 Před rokem

    I bought the Red Devil limited edition, kinda wishing I had waited for this release lol.

  • @phantomap1522
    @phantomap1522 Před rokem

    Quick note, in the video when you are showing graphs of frequencies, the Y-axis reads "Power Draw in W", it took me a few blinks to reset my brain and figure out that this doesn't mean I need a 3 kilowatt power supply :')

  • @no-one_no1406
    @no-one_no1406 Před rokem +1

    Good video!
    Next question though is... how can we modify the xtx cards to remove or increase the power limit? MPT doesn't work any more :/

    • @OrjonZ
      @OrjonZ Před rokem +2

      You have to mod the card. No more software hacks.

    • @no-one_no1406
      @no-one_no1406 Před rokem

      @@OrjonZ Yes. But how? AMD I don't think uses a resistor to measure current draw, so can't just solder that?
      Can the power controller chip be reconfigured, like on the radeon 6 series?

  • @dukejukem8843
    @dukejukem8843 Před rokem

    The Unleashed BIOS clock was 3915 mhz and the OC was 3940 mhz. Apparently Unleashed means Silent/Power Saving in terms of clock speed.

  • @Bill-lt5qf
    @Bill-lt5qf Před rokem

    thank you for mentioning coil whine

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 Před rokem +2

    I'd love to have the resources to test if having 32MB of additional L3 cache on die, along side the 96MB of L3/L4 on the MCM would significantly increase performance over the current RDNA3 design.
    There must have been a reason AMD put the 3D cache on top of their CPUs instead of the much cheaper, and cooler IO die, i feel like this is the reason RDNA3 acts so slow, because it has to go off-die to get the cache.

  • @jdgrupp
    @jdgrupp Před rokem

    Amazing for a single slot design.

  • @ShaneFagan
    @ShaneFagan Před rokem +3

    I'd be really curious to see this against the ASROCK Aqua 7900 XTX which is already available

    • @BobSmith-gh5wj
      @BobSmith-gh5wj Před rokem

      That card (ASROCK Aqua 7000 XTX) has many complaints on Newegg 50% give it a 1 out of 5

  • @alexandrepimenta3480
    @alexandrepimenta3480 Před rokem

    Please Man, what qdc conections you use?? Tks for the videos.

  • @Skop_p
    @Skop_p Před rokem +1

    I know the video is about the gpu. but im more interested in that 3x8pin wireview.

  • @PeakKissShot
    @PeakKissShot Před rokem

    Any thoughts on the ASRock aqua 7900xtx vs this? I am running the aqua myself and it's wonderful so far.

  • @chveyk
    @chveyk Před rokem

    Yes. I thought the "pictograms" from the EK are clear to everyone. But no, it turns out that the great derbauer is so "alternatively talented" that he did not understand them !!! The EK logo is an ARROW. showing "inside", and the "owl" logo is like an "out" arrow

  • @-opus
    @-opus Před rokem +8

    If the trend continues for high power/high heat cards, it will be surprising if air cooled cards (at least at the higher tiers) will continue to be made. It does seem like we are due for a technology change though, or graphics cards will need their own cases and psu's.

    • @puciohenzap891
      @puciohenzap891 Před rokem +1

      The EU wants to ban ICE cars and such but in reality they should create a hard cap on computers power draw to be honest. Like 400-500W maximum for a gaming prebuilt and such.
      Maybe then the devs will actually learn doing their job properly in optimizing the games, utilizing the available threads and stop with crappy ports.

    • @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords
      @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords Před rokem

      @@puciohenzap891 its the wild west when it comes to all of this stuff , I feel devs gave up and hope for brute force on theyre games now

    • @joshtheking1772
      @joshtheking1772 Před rokem +1

      Its not built or designed to be compared to air cooled cards though.

    • @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords
      @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords Před rokem

      @@joshtheking1772 that's where CZcamsrs blur content vs usage, it confuses ppl because like you said product's like these are niche but makes for great content when comparing

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Před rokem

      @@puciohenzap891 if that is enforced, the only thing you will get is like with 85% guns in the US, where a manufacturer sells you a mostly complete kit to assemble the gun yourself. Just ship the PC and the GPU separately as different purchases.
      Also if you think gaming companies that do crappy ports do anything more than crappy ports you are sorely mistaken. The most they will do is not make the port at all so the game becomes console-only.
      To be fair I'm fine either way, most crappy port games are trash with microtransactions and season passes that I'm happy to leave to the plebs on consoles

  • @mateuszkwietowicz2470
    @mateuszkwietowicz2470 Před 2 měsíci

    I own the PowerColor Liquid Devil 6900XT - and the block itself seems the same, but mine - looks better - the LD logo pattern on black finish. The lighting on the 6900 is uneven - it's brighter at one end, while the other is darker - either mine has faulty LED strip, or the strip is just short. I don't know. Mine also doesn't have any thermal pads under the backplate which is a shame.
    The key difference from PowerColor and other brands is the card length - Liquid Devil is significantly shorter than other cards, which is very important in cases with limited card space.
    Performance is great. I myself am very happy with mine, it runs cool and quiet - but, one 360 rad is not enough to cool both the card and the cpu - I had to install another 360 rad to keep my temps down.

  • @daniellundin8543
    @daniellundin8543 Před rokem

    What is coilwhine? What creates it and is that due to bad quality or? Can you explain in detail?

  • @AG-qd1je
    @AG-qd1je Před rokem +1

    I was hoping you'd undervolt overclock the card. I get similar maybe better performance with the red devil xtx

  • @sergkot3462
    @sergkot3462 Před rokem +1

    Is it worth that a reference pcb variant + ek waterbllock?

  • @donaldpetersen2382
    @donaldpetersen2382 Před rokem +1

    Look forward to liquid cooled Nitro+

  • @dot5799
    @dot5799 Před rokem

    When can we expect TG WireView to become available (both 12VHPWR and 8-pin variations)?

  • @1211evis
    @1211evis Před rokem

    Hi when can buy the PCIE power meter? it look really cool

  • @MADMarcus72
    @MADMarcus72 Před rokem +1

    I wonder if this would fit in cases like the Hyte Y60? That is the case I am currently using and with the 7900 XT it gets close to the glass where there might not be room for the water fittings.

    • @davidhedgecock5857
      @davidhedgecock5857 Před rokem +1

      It should fit fine and also you could fit the water cooling connectors to the back of the liquid devil card.

  • @DS-pk4eh
    @DS-pk4eh Před rokem

    It would be good if you can have several allinOne GPU water cooling solutions to compare. Something that is easy to install