Transplanting a ThinkPad X230 Tablet screen into an X230.
Vložit
- čas přidán 5. 02. 2019
- Did you know that ThinkPad Twist S230U and X230 Tablet displays are the same as the IPS display in the X230? Until recently, I didn't know that! In today's video we are going to be using an X230 Tablet that's in miserable condition as an organ donor to fix my X230 that I have made previous videos about. It's a difficult process and I don't necessarily recommend taking this route over just buying the screen by itself, but there are reasons for this method as well, including cheaper prices most of the time, and the fact that you are guaranteed to get a genuine display and not an aftermarket model.
This video is not meant to be a be-all, end-all guide to taking apart ThinkPad Tablet displays, as every model is going to be different. However, I had read a few posts in the r/thinkpad subreddits and on the ThinkPad forums about using a ThinkPad Twist display in a X230, so I figured why not give it a go with my X230 Tablet? I haven't seen any video documentation of this process, so I figured I would try it out! As for the other X230 Tablet I showed working in the video, it will be featured as part of another video at some point in the foreseeable future.
As always thanks for watching and I hope you stick around for some more content!
ThinkPad X230 IPS upgrade video:
• Lenovo ThinkPad X230 u...
ThinkPad X230 Classic Keyboard/Palmrest Swap:
• Lenovo ThinkPad X230 u...
ThinkPad X201 AFFS mod:
• Lenovo ThinkPad X201: ... - Věda a technologie
Great to see some new content on the channel. Great work, as always.
The timing of your video couldn't be more perfect! I ordered a Twist 2330U IPS display last week and it will arrive soon. It looks like the process is very similar to the X230 Tablet disassembly. I was a little unsure how difficult it might be but it looks pretty straight forward after seeing your video. I will be replacing the TN panel on my X220. Oh, I got a great deal on the Twist 2330U display - only $35 on eBay! :)
A Reddit post talking about using the Twist screen in a X230 was my inspiration for this video, so I hope the process goes well for you! And you're right, the X230 Tablet and S230U have a similar design.
Just wondering how your experience was extracting the IPS from the Twist digitizer? thinking about doing a similar upgrade myself!
I just completed the exact opposite. I removed the touch screen from my X230T and put a standard LCD in and it works like a treat. I cant believe it actually works.
I am actually trying to take out the display and use it as a secondary monitor. Just a summer project for fun, but it could also prove useful!
The digitizer only transmits & receives a short-range radio signal to/from the pen, it delivers power to the pen and the pen reacts by delivering a signal back that is detected precisely to determine position, it doesn't deal with touch at all. Touch is done through the front capacitive glass which is an entirely different principle.
that gives me some idea, was thinking about replacing the capacitive glass with something else that gives me 10 points
Great tutorial~ I swap the top case of X230T after watching this video
I would have put the TN-Panel back into the X230 and sold it. Using the good X230 Tablet from now on, especially as you are using it for school, were the digitizer comes in super handy. Written from my X230T, I'm using mostly for university :P
@@imagimation3238 He has an X230, T430 and T440, so I dont think he needs a fourth Notebook. And insted of selling the TN-Panel for like no money, I think he could have got a decent price for the complete Tablet Touch Panel with the digitizer as these cost sometimes as much as a complete regular used X230.
@@imagimation3238 This was all mentioned in the video. I have 2 X230 Tablets. One is in really good shape and I plan on showcasing in a future video, and the one that I stole a panel from will be fixed up as well. I will just be replacing the entire screen assembly on it, since the original assembly was in very poor condition.
Nice video man, just wondering what's your favourite Linux distro?
Lubuntu was one I used a lot, but I've also used Mint, Ubuntu, and Kubuntu (as shown in this video). Windows is still my main system for compatibility reasons, but I do use Linux from time to time when the need or desire arises.
I like the way you replaced the display on the computer you got working and I have to remember that because I may have the same problem sometime in the future on my display.
I've watched lot of your Thinkpad videos. And my question is: what's your daily (most used Thinkpad for your daily)? and which Thinkpad do you used for editing all of your CZcams channel? Any suggestions for Thinkpads for video editing things? Thanks!
My X230 that is shown in this video is my daily driver for everything. I also have a T430 that I use to edit videos on the go, however I do most of my editing on a desktop.
there is a possibility to get an X60 without a stylus (don't know if it is multi-touch) and since i cannot rely only on trackpoint - what is the simplest way to bypass the stylus, could the rubber of a pencil do the job?
I believe the touch screens are specially designed for use with the stylus. I don't think a regular pencil or the rubber from it will work. You can find a replacement stylus online fairly easily.
Hi, i have exact opposite problem
My x220t screen is dead, but touch and digitizer still working
Is it possible if I replace screen only and reassembly it again?
You would basically have to follow a similar process to this except be a LOT more careful. I wasn't so careful because the digitizer was already broken and I didn't need it after extracting the display, but if you want to retain the touch functionality you will have to be REALLY careful. Take a look on eBay or other sites and see if you can get a good deal on a complete assembly before attempting to take apart yours.
Do you know how to fix a dead power jack on an SL510? And also where I can find replacement motherboards for the SL510?
The power jack can be easily replaced. When it comes to finding a replacement motherboard, eBay is probably your best bet.
How easy would this be to do in reverse - taking the x230 screen and placing it the tablet? Tablet is fine apart from a jarring blue line down the display
Very difficult. The process of just getting the display out of the tablet is hard enough, I would not even try to attempt replacing the screen in another tablet. I kind of got lucky with this and found an identical display (actually was an upgrade as it was the multitouch model) on Mercari for $20 so if you can find a replacement tablet display for cheaper, that might be the better option.
Just replaced my x230 display with the same model of your previous ips display. I hope mine does not die soon. The way your last IPS display died is kind of strange . Hmmm.
If you want it, Is it possible to use the digitiser and plug it in the x230 or the x240 ?
As mentioned in the video and in a previous comment, the digitiser is a completely separate component. The non-tablet X220/X230 do not have the hardware or ports for the digitiser. The X240 works a little differently but I haven't seen the tablet variant before.
it would be nice to have that digitizer on original x230 (not tablet version) sometimes it is good to have it
As seen in the video, there is a separate cable for the digitizer. The X230 (non tablet) does not have a connector on the motherboard or the necessary hardware to use the digitizer. Maybe someone from 51nb can come up with a custom board for it or make some kind of adapter.
+Sebi's Random Tech yea an adapter for touchscreen like that one for 1080p display. and about that 1080p display. my opinion it would be waste of money bcs for that screen size 12inches you wont spor the difference
+Sebi's Random Tech *spot the difference
@@cavosavosk I put a 1080p display in my X240. While I agree that the resolution is very high for a 12" laptop, sometimes the extra screen real estate is nice.
wait... so did the touch functionality transfer over to your x230 by using the x230t display?
@Cuban Legend No, as shown in the video I removed the digitizer, aka the “touch” function of the display. Even if I left it in the X230 doesn’t have the necessary connector or hardware to use a touch screen.
@@SebisRandomTech ahhhh, i see, i mustve missed that part of the video, thanks for the reply!
a different question entirely, regarding your x230, i see you have the 2.6GHz i5 model, the i7 is 2.9GHz and is the same number of cores/threads.. just with x16 PCI-E lanes in the i7 instead of just x1 with the i5, im in the market for an x230 or x230t... should i bother with scouring ebay for a good i7 or should i settle for a cheaper i5? in all theoretical comparisons the 2 CPUs are only about 5-11% difference in performance... thing is id like to ensure i can play 1080p encoded media, as i plan to dock the laptop to a 1080p display... :) thanks for reading!
For me the i5 still performs admirably. Most people I’ve talked to have said the i7’s on these models don’t make too much of a difference. I didn’t know about the PCI-E lane thing.
Both are doing very well around 3.3-3.4 GHz (full load and boost.)
I would like to warn everybody who'd like to do this "mod" taking X230T IPS display, putting it into classic X230: the glass on top of the IPS screen (with thick black borders which only the Tablet version has) is actually glued to the glass of the IPS LCD. Sebi's panel for some reason did not have any glue (I wonder why), so it is actually not an easy "take prying tool and slowly take it apart", but you'll have to use a heater (if I remember 190°C should be used for heating the glue in order to get it into the liquid state, without damaging the LCD) and then slowly take it apart. For me it is too late, I just broke a perfectly fine IPS screen. :(
That's very interesting, maybe it's possible that there were different manufacturers of the displays, or Lenovo revised the process at some point. In the X240 for example, I know on some of them the touchpads are screwed in while on other variants they are glued in, or some combination of both. I'm sorry to hear about your display!!!
@@SebisRandomTech I am very sad. I was so happy when it arrived today, only to kill the screen an hour later. :( Well, my bad. Anyway, it was a LG LP125WH2(SL)(B3). I am even more sad because in my opinion LG is one of the best LCD panels manufacturer, so I was really looking into having this IPS panel in my X230. But thanks for the video guide anyway.
@@jursky214 It's not something I would normally do, as I said in the video though this was cheaper than just getting the panel and the exterior housing was damaged enough that it wouldn't be worth using in an X230 Tablet...let me know how your swap goes when you get another panel!
heres a good question for you.. if you upgrade your lenovo from Win 8/8.1 to Win 10, will you lose the one-key (reset/recover) feature? thanks
No idea. I always just do clean installs.
Sebi's Random Tech ok thanks
X220/X230 are the frankensteins of laptops.
how to buy display
Why people more often love to use x230 model, unlike x230T variant?
Not everyone wants to have a tablet. The Tablet variant is a bit thicker and heavier than the non-tablet. Harder to get batteries for, not compatible with the UltraBase dock, among other things.
@@SebisRandomTech True on thickness and weight. I have X220t and two X230t and they all fit fine in corresponding Ultrabase Series 3 docks, same as my regular X220 and X230.
If Twist and X230t have compatible displays, would that mean that I could transplant a screen with X230t's digitizer into Twist and make it work? I wanted to get myself Twist, but the lack of digitizer was a huge throwoff for me, as I use my laptops for artwork; X230t is okay too, but it's bulkier, so I'd honestly prefer Twist if possible.
It may be possible if you’re careful, but I can’t say I know for sure.
Where do you live? If the display freezes it can expand and crack.
Pennsylvania. However, the cracking incident happened before it began to get cold for the winter.
@@SebisRandomTech Hmm, that's weird I've had like 8 laptops screens crack and that's never happened before. Not the end of the world though.
@@SebisRandomTech Hello from a fellow Pennsylvanian's X230t!
@@SebisRandomTech Hello from a fellow Pennsylvanian's X230t!
@@bradleyhove4177 Hello fellow Pennsylvanian!
I am planning to buy x240.
With the statement at around "9:30", talking about the blowing out a backlight fuse. With the X230 and similar age laptops, this isn't true. They use LED drivers, which are integrated into the monitor connector. If this were a CCFL backlit laptop, it would have a separate two pin connector to power the backlight.
It will not harm your laptop to plug in a LED backlit display while it is turned on. I accidentally did this when I was working on my ProBook 6570b, swapping the screen from its stock Samsung LTN156KT02 for a AUO B156RW01-V1. Which the main reason why I swapped the screen is because the original Samsung panel had a HORRIBLE 16 ms response time, the AUO had a 8 ms.
I wish that were correct, however these machines still have a backlight fuse to protect the LEDs from getting electricity that they aren't supposed to get. If the fuse blows, the backlight won't work until it's replaced or you jump the connection on the fuse. Trust me, I've learned that the hard way on T430/X230's numerous times. I've also worked on plenty of older ThinkPads so I am very much aware of the difference between CCFL and LED backlights. Blowing the backlight fuse is a well-documented issue in the ThinkPad community due to not disconnecting power before removing the screen.
Oh, I thought you were talking about a CCFL, as they would draw a lot more power and require a fuse. But a fuse on a LED backlight, that's some stupidity. What if the screen cable becomes loose, there goes your fuse.
@@bill_clinton697 In some cases it's been fine, like a T440p I had a while back with a frayed cable causing it to flicker. But other times me swapping out displays without disconnecting the AC adapter and/or battery has led to the fuse blowing. Many others have had this happen too, so I feel it's safest to just keep everything disconnected from power before messing with the screen.
u lose touchscreen
Screen was heavily damaged anyways. Relax.