Sh*t They Don't Tell You About 3D Printing
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Well, well, well, YES - in this Sh*t They Don't Tell You About 3D Printing video I'm not so much as ranting (although it feels like it lol) I wanted to aim this video to beginners and newbs to the "hobby" of 3D printing. Also "THEY" is everyone - not just the 3D printer manufacturer companies. There's quite a few things I talk about within each catagory - sit back and enjoy my VICTORY SPEACH! Hahahaha
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I agree with everything you said, like anything else there is a learning curve to it. Learning the slicer and supports is huge, they can make or break a good print. Their are newer resins that are plant based that smell less- still recommend good ventilation. I use a bathroom fan and duct it into a 5 gallon bucket with charcoal for aquariums to filter smell.
Great video topic,
I’ve been 3D Printing for a little more than 3 years. It’s rare to have a machine that prints / works like you originally purchased thinking it would do. They don’t tell you that you’re absolutely going to have a failure moment weather it be software or a part worn out or something out of adjustment.
In fact I’m having a stupid idea looking at the Bamboo FDM printer because I’m tired of seeing mod videos and simply just want to print, nothing else!
Yes printing is part of the time frustrating, but man it’s cool
Yes, there are a lot of aspects to 3d printing that are not easy to understand the significance of until you start 3d printing. Like you said, how you use your slicer is tricky and is one of the biggest factors in a successful print (I also use lychee). The cleaning, smell and general mess is not easy to convey in a you tube video.
I'll put this out there for anyone thinking of buying a resin printer. You need a heater, you need a fan/exhaust system, you need a space to deal with the mess. I had a Phrozen mighty 8k and it was ok and made great prints, but lacked the heater, exhaust and was very difficult to clean. Can you print without a heater? Of course you can but you will have a much higher failure rate. You can print without ventilation, but you will regret it, tough guy.
I currently own and print daily on a Uniformation GKtwo, it is as close to the iPhone of resin printers as I can find. I know they are double the price of all the others but it's cheaper if you factor in the upgrades you don't need and the lid is on a hinge! This is a huge deal for me, you want a hinged lid or you need a lot more space for cleaning.
buy the expensive nitrile gloves, like Gloveworks, and get a size you think is way to big for you. I have skinny, sissy hands and I by xl, or you can buy cheep gloves and get resin all over your hands when they tear, which they will.
You need a self contained curing station, the sun and/or a wand are not practical or reliable enough.
The day you finally buy a suitable ultrasonic cleaner you will kick yourself for not buying one sooner.
buy 99% isopropyl alcohol from amazon 4 gallons at a time, it's way cheaper and you will need it. If you live near an area high in equestrian activity you can sometimes find bulk iso where they sell horsey stuff.
For me, the choice came down to spending more money and get results that are great, quickly and move forward with my modeling. I've owned several printers and found all but the GKtwo were a hobby in and of themselves and I don't need another hobby, according to my wife.
One thing that I didn't expect was so many random failed prints. Printing ho vehicles i will get one dialed in, print 4 or 5 successfully then get one or two that fail then get good ones again.
Mannnn, thank you so much for sharing.
I had suspected the resin 3D printing (although fun) took on an additional level of patience and responsibility all in itself. And a whole Lotta respect for chemicals and tools... which we artists have had to respect, especially if we've been doing this all our creative lives.
Plus, the amount of work it takes is building 3D models. I have an Associates degree in 3D models, tooling l, building and etc. And YES, if you download a model from somewhere, it is by NO MEANS always perfect. I can't tell how many 3D models I had to correct, rebuild just for a broadcast animation.
The same is true for sure if you are doing any solid modeling and slicing... it takes time and patience. YES, ALL FUN, but with great creativity, come GREAT RESPONSIBILITY 😉. The same is true with any hobby, really... but 3D Printing... be ready for some learning.
Thank you for posting this heads-up awareness.
Stay creative and have fun!😉 👍🏼
I'm on 3d resin printing from a couple of years ago: I agree about all the contras you've said. It is extremely messy and the uncured resin is toxic. You also have to count on how to properly waste dirty alcohol, used paper towels (tons). Not to mention that you have to store at home few gallons of flammable alcohol... BUT: I'm really enjoying it. I'm now designing my own ultra detailed kits and this is something I did not even imagine was possible few years ago. So, it is worth? I think yes, but careful: modelers should know all these sh** before to get into 3d print because it is not a 'plug&play' game... Good video and thanks for sharing!
An easy way to clean you used alcohol is to pour in plastic or glass containers with opening big enough to get your hand in. Set it in sunlight and the resin in alcohol sets up and just reach in and remove.
@@kenamosjr.bo_51 true, this is a good tip, it is what I do. But nevertheless you end with different containers with used alcohol, need to trespass from one container to other... It's still a mess.
But Its worth to do all that: 3d printing it's still an amazing tool for modelers!
@@oscarballesteros837 true , there is no getting away from the mess.
I have experience with both hobby filament/resin and "commercial" printing through 3rd parties and I think the biggest thing no one talks about is the skill gap in making the 3D files to start with. Aside from that... Resin printers scare me strictly because of how easily you can get sensitized to the resin itself. I did resin printing for a while and started to get slightly sensitized to it and had to quit. I knew a guy who had a small resin print farm and he had to stop because he was getting allergic to both the resin and the gloves. As for disposal of the uncured resin, that's not a dump it down the sink kind of thing, that has to be handled as hazmat waste with your county.
I don't say any of this to scare anyone away from 3D printing, but I feel like it is so glamourized as this "push the button and wow a part yeets out!" and that's not how it goes... Some of the time it goes fine and then other times you swear the machine is out to get you! That said if you can ride the ups and downs, it is a useful tool.
Love your content as always.
I 100% agree on all these points. This is resin specific of course, but an important point. Resin does really fine printing, and you can make great stuff..
But
Yeah you sort of need a dedicated space, and you need the curing machine and cleaner on top of the printer itself.
Now to that end 4K PLA+ printing has come along way as well.
You don't have to much issue with smell, but you need a temperature controlled area, especially if you are printing some of the higher temp materials.
You also will need to account for the layers, and sanding those out or using a coating to help fill them.
Both are really cool, and both have purposes.
I have been debating on getting a standard PLA style printer for some time. If I really like it, I would probably take the plunge into a resin system.
This was so helpful. I want to get into printing but I wasn't sure. I like filament printing but I don't like the idea of wasted prints. Tough decisions.
This is great info, I've been thinking of getting into 3D printing when I retire.
Thank you for this video. I'm on the fence about 3D printing, and you have just done a great service to me and those who are on the same fence. It is good information to take in when trying to decide to get into 3D printing or not. I enjoy your Tiktok content as well as YT. Thank you. Sean.
Thanks for the warning. This is excellent information. I don't have a printer, but I have been looking into it. I will take into account on those problems. Ihad in the back of my mind the question of heating up plastic.
Awesome to share this stuff man!!! Yes i do hope you tube does shares this video. I never heard any of this stuff before except somebody mentioning it smelling and running it in a well ventilated area. Thanks for sharing homie!!!! Where do i buy a hat?
Plastic filament printers are known as FDM (Fused Deposition Modeling)
UV cured resin printers are known as MSLA (Masked Stereolithography Apparatus)
About UV resin MSLA :
- It's going to get messy and expect to use a lot of paper towels
- Get some silicone baking mats or silicone pet feeder trays to work on to help keep the boo boos on that. You don't want that stuff getting everywhere where it's harder to clean.
- Water washable resin is still toxic. Handle with care. Water washable and/or the classic stuff, I've not found much in the way of the impact of fumes but anectdotally, there have been reports of long term developed sensitivity to the fumes and some people claim to have had allergic reactions with skin contact.
I'm going to repeat: Handle with care!
- Get yourself a 105nm range UV lamp (try not to expose yourself to too much UV light -those carry risks as well). This can be used for a variety of purposes including helping to render resin residue to be safer to deal with (like all that contaminated alcohol used to rinse the prints, the paper towels used to wipe uncured resin, and gloves -I make sure I cure all of that stuff during my clean up process after completing a print session.)
- I recommend operating resin printers with good ventilation
- about printing: keep in mind the resin works better in a 20-30C temperature environment. Lower may yield shakey results but some people have had some success preheating the resin to print at temperatures on the lower edge of optimal range. Your mileage may vary, remember to shake your resin
- About temperature and ventilation : Something you can try if you're on a budget is to get a large cardboard box to put the printer in and via a cut out, run a clothes dryer pipe out the window while using a small heater with a heater shut off feature. Use the flaps as a door to maintain temperature. I do something sort of similar but note that it doesn't work that well when it's really windy outside
Great info, that confirms what I already was afraid of. However that's the reason i just ask someone else to do the designing and printing...
👍👍Thanks for doing this informative video! I've never before heard anyone mention the information you did. I think I'll just leave it to the pros and just purchase the pieces I want. What about the filament 3D printers? I've been looking at the Creality 3D Mini FDM Ender 2 Pro. 🚂🚂
Thanks for this video! I still may get into 3d printing but, it is good to know the downsides.
Thanks for bringing this topic up! This is something I often discuss with people interested in getting into 3D printing. I love the super fine detail you can get with resin printing, but I do not have a good well-ventilated space in my house to utilize, so I have stuck with filament. If I really need something printed in resin, I'll ask a friend. The design aspect is something else to touch on; it's not as easy as you think it is! I took a drafting/architecture class in high school, and we did some things in AutoCAD back then, but I've long since forgotten pretty much all of that. I understand the basics, but I still struggle with designing pieces; I may know what I want, but trying to figure out how to get that specific shape is where I often get hung up. There are some great communities out there for model railroaders to talk about 3D printing, including a number of Facebook groups, as well as the NMRA Interchange (Discord). It definitely helps to have people to bounce ideas off of and help you when you get stuck!
It becomes a hobby within the hobby. For me the biggest issue is that time 3d printing is time not spent modeling.
great info buddy i have not bought one yet but its in my to due list to get one the best one i can buy .
Thanks for all this information, still thinking about getting a 3D printed an this will help to prepare
Thanks for the info. 👍🏻👍🏻
Dope and very effective video DUDE! Much apprecaited!
Great video. Thanks for the info
I appreciate you. I used to own a resin printer, but the hassle made me stick to my trusted FDM printer - the results strike a good balance between what I can achieve between scratch building and resin printing. The output has moderate detail and is easier to use. I have a strong design and 3d modelling background, so I understand that the process of learning to create, slice, and print models with multiple software platforms, dealing with resin, and a high failure rate can be overwhelming. It's not as desirable as people think. Thanks for this! #preach
I don't print, and probably never will. But, as usual, thanks for keeping it honest. 👍
Interesting perspective! However, I think that learning a new software is a positive aspect. I am not so sure about the toxicity esp of eco plantbased resin. I saw that Anycubic refers to the REACH regulation,which regulates the use and import of chemicals in Europe. Of course the producers need to comply with it if they are important that stuff.