Historicism: Nietzsche's Philosophy of History
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- You may have noticed "Gym-Wall-Quotation Nietzsche" creeping into your algorithms. I have. There is more than one Nietzsche, to be sure, but this video is not about how to be a TikTok Ubermensch, it's about historicist Nietzsche, reading his "Use and Abuse of History for Life" from Untimely Meditations, found here: amzn.to/3CPzIK2.
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This was so interesting. Makes me think about how people seem so sedated nowadays with the overwhelming onslaught of information and notifications. It’s like we know everything about everyone, yet we often can’t seem to have any substance to conversations anymore
You too.
You are one of those that think they are (but are not really) different from the herd.
This essay is one of the best examples of how life, vitality, the vital "zest" is consistently Nietzsche's highest value that he anxiously defends and tries to save from corruption throughout all his later books. If he teaches us anything it's that we should value this sense of "feeling of life".
So, Nietzsche is a sort of Zorba the Greek figure?
@@thenowchurch6419 zorba the greek was written by kazantzakis, a greek poet and writer who was HEAVILY influenced by nietzsche
@@mikediamantakis5528 Interesting.
My take is that the Zorba character is what Nietzsche was aiming to be but failed.
He was a remarkable genius nonetheless.
I like how you crush everybody's imagination of being ubermensch by putting Napoleon and Goethe. I guess the "ubermensch" of the internet deserve to see the old ones. :P
But the enitre point of the ubermensch is that they are superhumans that they would distinct and superior to moderen humans genetically. The ubermensch isn't something you can become its not a mindset and its not being a free spirt or a "great man". Netische compares it to how modern humans veiw apes the ubermensch would veiw us in the same way as something that has been evloved past. For Netische free spirts like Gothe, Ceaser and Napoleon are not ubermensch themsleves he says himslelf that there has never been anyone that he would consider an ubermensch only people that were close to one in character. For Netische these people are the bridge to the ubermensch the ones that will be the fathers and mothers of this new man.
I think he used them because they are Nietzsche's own examples. He praised all three individuals (which is quite rare in his case) and obviously he couldn't praise anyone from our times.
"Metamensch" is what I'd use for the net's neckbeard nobility.
I always wonder what would Nietzsche say about his self-help version, he'd go insane again for sure.
He would complain about how they are just coping in the shadows of his greatness.
preface to Genealogy answers this
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I recently watched a Norm MacDonald stand up show from 2011 and it was surprising how emblematic of the time it was. It was a perfect slice of LIFE from 2011, a comedian stepping one foot outside of culture, outside the mythos/into madness, enabling him to reflect on it. It captured the consciousness and values of the time so well (and fears of a rapidly changing world) in a way that a historical text could never do.
Me Doing Stand-Up?
Leaving a comment so maybe the algorithm will bring the herd, of which I am not a part and arrived by my own will
I really liked the part where you use the analogy that perhaps a novelist is a better historian than a scholarly historian because it's bringing life, mystery and imagination to monuments
The example that comes into my mind is the noble prize winning novelist Orhan Pamuk from Turkey
I'm gonna wait until I'm stoned before I watch this but it came up in my reccomendations so I clicked it and liked for the sake of algorithm boosting. Notice me pills
I liked the final thoughts regarding modernity vs. post...
Modernity still applied a narrative framework to history. It was a story. Postmodernity does not have such a framework.
What we have now is "Everything, Everywhere, All at Once" (and I'd LOVE to hear your thoughts on that film, btw).
The "Christian" West must transcend itself and realize that Life Eternal is Now, the immediate. Post Modernism is a hint at that truth.
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This reminds me of one of his other short essays “On truth and falsities in an amoral sense” where he addresses how lies and falsehoods contain a great possibility for the advancement of life. For example dreams. This video kinda bridges the two essays, and thanks for making cause I had a hard time understanding this paper.
I just discovered your videos in the past month and they have helped so much. Thank you for your amazing work!
i recently found your videos on lacan, right now you're easily my favorite youtube channel, thanks for providing the digestible and engaging content
Please plastic pills I would love to see a video on Georges Bataille
love all ur vids, this one included! any plans on doing anything with bataille?
Great video, definitely eye opening
I enjoyed your explanation of how it feels to preserve the old, it is hostile and works against our best interest.
I am so glad I'm not like the others that get informed of Nietzsche through a single CZcams video. I have seen 2 and I follow a Nietzsche Twitter quotes page! Not part of the herd. :p
Another excellent film - beautifully and interestingly explained 😎
Plastic Pills gets it fr. Not only that you’re presentation of these topics are very clear and engaging.
would love to hear your thoughts on how well Foucault took up Nietzsche's project
Nietzsche would not like him
@@moviereviews1446 nietzsche might not but bataille would
Nietzsche would appreciate him just fine but probably consider him an epigone without original philosophy not already in N’s books.
What was Michel Foucault's big idea? Power relationships right? Nietzsche big idea was the "Will to Power" so maybe some similarities
Great video
Great Video but where did the Baudrillard Gucci Gang Short go? loved it.
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Is Stirner’s Der Einzige forthcoming?
how you explain ideas around us is unique, you go to the very roots of things
An old friend remarked to me once that, "This is why the Left always loses." He was referring to collective belief, and to Trump-supporters specifically. He said that although we may measure where they placed their bets (as well as why) as incredibly stupid and even horrifying, it was, in fact, all the same *effective*, at least compared to the so-called "collectivism" the Left touts as necessary but rarely truly organizes.
People are hungry for meaning, for purpose, and cynicism may work for an individual in terms of knowledge of both history and oneself but it will never bring about sweeping change. Only an illusion of some sort can lift man above himself and into something greater. For individuals, the illusion can be "delusions" of grandeur, personal faith in "something higher" and perhaps manifesting such a thing via art of some sort, etc. For the group, faith is still required, a collective faith pushed toward someone or something specific and relatively simple to understand (and therefore believe in).
What's much, much harder than either of things alone is combining them: How do we take individual faith in something higher than the individual (these "illusions") and turn it into collective realizations and desires? How do we ensure the things stirring in one individual are the same things stirring in the others? I think that takes its own kind of faith. Because the answer is "We don't." And this is not resignation of hope or even of action. It's resignation of trying to stir anyone but oneself, and of thinking we know any better than even our most "ignorant" neighbor. When we think we know better, when we meddle with others even out of concern or for otherwise good cause, we turn into the very "herd" trying to keep itself in line. Such a herd, obviously, still requires a hand, and we are far worse off assuming we are each that hand.
God may be dead, but something will replace it. Nietzche's void always felt more like a threat than a reality to me, a boogie man meant to scare us into much-needed illusions.
Nietzsche was the greatest enlightenment-influenced and modernist of his time. yes, he was a modernist! in aesthetics absolutely, in theory and practice likely as well.
interesting to compare this to/against Hegel’s lectures on history, their movement toward self-consciousness. & Nietzsche’s overlooked lectures attacking German education (NYRB published these, thankfully).
This channel is doing to the public a service, thanks
For me this is well put forward after Fred - Frye, Desmets, Arendt, jung... Identity are the stories other people tell, that you believe... Mythos are your stories, that you tell and live. If we do not tell our own story we risk being a reactionary - ressentiment - reacting in the present to what happened in the past... Trauma - which is a form of the German word for Dream ;)
We must stop carrying traditions(peer pressure from people long gone) and create for ourselves our own self - our stories - The precursor to Jung;s Individuation....
Interesting the opinion Nietzsche had of Napoleon considering how his hero Schopenhauer had a low opinion of him. Combined with his hated Hegel’s high praise for him. Also where does Nietzsche write about Spinoza if I might ask cause I would quite like to read that.
I heard some Bruno Latour at the end… foreshadowing of the next video?
I'm not sure what I learned
The Last Man speaks Incessantly. Sometimes whilst blinking
bro what song is this in the backgroud ?
actually reading vom nutzen und nachteil der historie für das leben right now synchronicity is ballin
Next PPills hour or two hour long stream?
das ist gut ich liebe nietzsche
One min thirty-four seconds in and already loving it
Rlly curious as to how Neiztche would see urban design. Would he consider it as part of ‘atmosphere?’ And would be consider it important?
He would consider it putrid, post-human and very important.
Nietzsche was a hysterical type whose writing became very dangerous to societies run by lunatics
What’s the music in this one?
The lack of madness kinda rejects the connection between aesthetics and ethics. If you superimpose a void upon that connection, someone will be happy to try to fill that void, perhaps even more desperately than before you imposed it
In the spirit of not posing as ahead of "the herd", that hypothetical, perhaps desperate, someone could easily be me when i speak to ppl i find vulgarly materialist, which could easily impel me to lay the madness on a bit thicker than i would otherwise.
"Humans need fantasy to be human...to be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape."
"Humanity *was* things that didn't have a position in time and space...such as imagination, pity, hope, history, and belief. Take those away and all you had was an ape who fell out of trees a lot."
Sir Terry Pratchett
Neitzche talked big for a bourgeoise college professor.
"... for I would not know what sense classical philology would have in our age unless it is to be effective by its inappropriateness for the times, that is, in opposition to the age, thus working on the age, and, we hope, for the benefit of a coming time."
Did it again
Cool.
Was the distinction between Jordan Peterson and Nazis really necessary?
LOL Esports Arena.
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Yep. 😂
History is the story of power.
Okay Michel…
there's no escaping modernity!!!!!
🧿 hmmm interesting.
More of this video coming, or was that it?
Ideas are his legacy, a superman for sure
Tradition
Leave it to the chosen to corrupt the processes for ends of financial profit, if money is the root of all evil, what more can I say.
We had this text in history class and it gave me an existential crisis because he describes people like me
Oh my god, I'm becoming my dad
The lesson is that Nietzsche was a bad Nietzschean.
well, I'm having a Nietzsche day I guess
THE PEOPLE WANT FOUCAULT (unless u did that already n i missed it)
Very Good! Plastic Pills. But, your conclusion at the end that we have in postmodernity somehow 'incorporated' history seems to me a bit off... we have pimped out history for the addiction game of attention and supernormal stimuli, rather than actually engaged with it. In fact, to the contrary, we have refused its every lesson and fiber. History becomes the scorned which the chemical modern douses in gasoline and burns to watch the spectacle. It bares no more than the little fascination accorded to it when it is rolled out for ritual sacrifice and renewable of the Big Lie which requires postmodernity. The lie of the state as sovereign, corporate, violent, and monopolistic of power is the new sustaining historylie which Graeber and Wendgrow describe in "The Dawn of Everything"; which Fabian Scheidler traces the genealogy of in "The End of the Megamachine"; and Eric Wolfe describes in "Europe and the People without History". Not to mention Hardt and Negri's "Empire" and their depiction of the nation as a remainder of violence from villages banding together in the face of a larger common threat (Carl Schmitt's original argument about 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'). Of course, all of this goes back to Gregory Bateson's older observation (renewed in Graeber and Wendgrow's book) of "schizmogenesis" defining how healthy, free cultures intentionally make themselves distinct from each other in order to play games of individuation which allow for Dunbar Number-approaching tribes of true community. Such cohesive tribal variation was itself a part of our species being - not only allowing for more flush speciation, but also acting as a guard against environmental perturbations leading to localized single-metric optimizing extinction, as well as a source of joy and playful jousting.
More mystery, less history.
I see a lot of people praising the introduction, in particular the use of larger than life figures like Napoleon as an example of what constitutes an Übermensch. But to me it gives a weird holier-than-thou attitude towards knowledge regarding Nietzsche, in which all of these silly hollywood characters and instagram quotes are misinterpreting him, but watch this video and you'll see what he *truly* means to say. The truth is that his writings about history as a thing in itself, or an academic pursuit, is far overshadowed by his actual historical analysis of religion and philosophy.
You're describing Collectivism, while pushing people who's ideas lead to Collectivism.
Are you brave enough to move to the sphere of the noseberg?
old is good
Good historiography must be essayistic.