Alfa Giulia Veloce vs BMW 3-Series 340i vs Mercedes C-Class C43 AMG comparison REVIEW
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- This is our comparison review Alfa Giulia Veloce vs BMW 3-Series 340i vs Mercedes C-Class C43 AMG. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
2:04 Alfa Giulia Veloce
39:55 BMW 3-Series 340i
1:16:47 Mercedes C-Class C43 AMG
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Alfa Romeo deserve to sell a lot more of these ...especially with the most recent interior and infotainment upgrades
Sydney has a quite alot of em!
1 Alfa Romeo
2 BMW
3 Mercedes Benz
I'd have the Alfa Veloce. I like all 3 cars, but I own the Giulia and its a fantastic driving experience.
The hood release mechanism within the Alfa Giulia is a real shame even in the Fiat
the hood release mechanism within the Alfa Giulia is a real shame even in the Fiat Punto it is seamlessly done and quite strong so please Alfa try to be really premium
@@charlescauchi3507 Yes, but the simple fix for that hood release is to soak all moving parts with WD40. I've owned 2 Giulias and both of them had a hard time releasing the hood. I simply sprayed WD40 on the latches (3 of them) and the cable wire....and ever since that, they work perfectly. Its surprising they continue to come from the factory and are hard to get open. I had a 2017 and now have a 2019, both had the hood release issue, but fixed quickly by spraying WD40.
ZERO reliability
@@mgqfashion sorry, but you are full of shit. I've owned 2 Giulias and now a Stelvio, ZERO issues. Hood release is so minor, it does not merit mentioning, especially when a spray of WD40 fixes it in 5 seconds.
This channel just has the most comprehensive reviews anywhere on the internet.
thanks!! Please recommend =)
I don't know why I am young and almost never heard the legend of the brand, but when I see an Alfa pass bye, I have a smile on my face. Am I the only one?
Nope. Even little children and old nannies light up when we pass them in our Veloce. Almost everyone does.
no, you ar not the only one with terrible taste on cars
@O A damn you on every Alfa Romeo video hating 😂😂
Giulia all day for me. It's just wonderful.
Thank you for the review! Very enjoyable.
The Alfa is so beautiful and great.
The Alfa, anytime !!!
So....Why almost nobody buys it? 😀
bezybezy because unfortunately they are not known this car 😬
@@bezybezy sadly they think German cars are reliable and Italian cars are not... its a bit of unconscious prejudice
@@markhamilton7289 Uh no, it's almost face. Even car and drivers alfa was a piece of crap
Did you even watch the video lol
I'll go with the 2018 motor trend car of the year. Alfa! It's just fun to drive.
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Not a hardcore ALfa here, But still packs a punch . Nice review
Alfa 2.0 BMW 3.0 ? And Merc amg .. Strange comparison in terms of engine capacity
Was thinking the same. Also drive the Alfa in the snow and other two with nice clear weather. What the price difference between the 3?. Too long to look again.
I am very happy with my Giulia Veloce. The driving experience is different but same level as BMW rear wheel drive, but the external looks and especially the cockpit makes my every day drives feeling good. Wish though that the indicator would be even close functionality to VW Passat. But still my next car will be a Giulia even if I win in Lotto. I just love the way it is.
Is it comfortable?
It's always difficult for me to decide which car to have, that's why I always let my intuition and heart do it... Alfa Romeo Giulia!
I have this Giulia trim and found that installing non-runflat tires dramatically improved the comfort, even in the firmest setting. The car has been amazing and I can't wait to get another!
just about to do that with mine as well l .i also own a 3 series and always went for the normal tires ..cheers
@@stalin1909 RFT's are awful on both BMW and Alfa...RFT's are a solution looking for a problem...1 flat that actually stranded me in 35 years.
How would you rate the comfort 1-10?
@@stalin1909 is the Alfa or bmw more comfortable?
@@gbma3241
I love both honestly. But the Alfa is a very underrated car, its so visceral and engaging to drive. Its been 2.5 years, and i enjoy it every single day.
2:04 Alfa Giulia Veloce
39:55 BMW 3-Series 340i
1:16:47 Mercedes C-Class C43 AMG
i recently bought a Giulia ti sport model and i have to say that it is awesome!!!! i wouldnt trade it for none of the competition
Carlos Lewis sams I got one too in Monte Carlo blue over black interior with yellow calipers. It’s extremely rare in Southern California which makes it even better. Everyone has a BMW and it’s so boring. The MB AMG in this review is way more expensive and not as fun to drive.
@@allenpaul102 same here. Just got the 2019 montecarlo blue w/ tan interior + yellow calipers and all the goodies. It's so beautiful.
@@laneyj Exactly how I would spec it. i had a 159 in dark metallic blue and red interior. It was an awesome car, although went with two Mercedes after, but my heart says Giulia, head says SUV for the dogs.
I’d go for a Tesla Model 3 Performance, or as the Italians say, Performante?
Is it reliable and comfortable?
I think Alfa made nice improvements in 2020 update. Nice new center console and better infotainment. I think I would go for the Giulia out of these three. I think its also the cheapest
2021 will be the big refresh for the Giulia.
Are the BMW and Merc 6 cylinder cars ? And aren't they way more expensive ?
@@dinopappous6639 Yes, WAY more expensive, as in 20K more expensive here in the US. More accurate comparison would be 330i M Sport and C300.
Smart man. 😉
Alfa Romeo produces the best 3 series today
A while ago I tried it and came to the same conclusion as you! I did not think someone could take the lead on the 3 series for pleasure in an "everyday" car.
Nr 1) Alfa Giulia
Nr 2) Alfa Giulia
Nr 3) Alfa Giulia
No reason to explain. It's selfevident.
Holy smokes, a 2 hour video wow. thank you for the in depth reviews!
I own a 2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport in Monte Carlo Blue, and a 2020 BMW M4 Competition in Nardo Gray. Both are great cars with zero problems. However, for road trips focused on comfort and great mileage, the Alfa always wins! Ave 32 mpg. The BMW is much faster than the Alfa, but for daily commuting, the Alfa is #1.
Can I ask..??
I have the Giulia and love it but tbt I’m disappointed in the performance and its way to quite..so looking at the bmw….how much faster is the bmw.?? Is it faster everywhere..? Thanks
INCREDIBLE REVIEW!! THANK YOU FOR THE LONG AND DETAILED REVIEW BEST ON CZcams!!!!
Had my 2018 Giulia QV for 2 years and 15k miles. Absolutely love it. Would definitely like to see those upgrades in mine but the car has been fabulous.
Yes, just leased another 2020 after having an '18 TI Sport, love them, highly underrated cars. Initial '17 quality issues and lousy marketing really damaged the brand early, hoping new management can address.
@@burtdemill9393 is the car comfortable?
Is it comfortable?
ALFA. Sexy and sporty. BMW is rational version of the Alfa. Merc? Excellent car, dullest image. BMW is the smart choice, but ALFA is the one I would buy
Anyway there's nothing irrational in the Giulia. You can't even disable the traction control!
Also the steering, suspensions and chassis are known to be very sophisticated for a better driving experience, the ZF gearbox is nicely calibrated, there's carbon fiber and aluminum to lower the weight..
With the 2020 edition they introduced the touch screen infotainment, while full led headlights will come with the next generation
All the broke people want Alfa, but people with money choose the other two. Just look at the sales numbers.
@@kize32 I accually took Alfa for 2 year lease and i honestly love this car. In march im picking up m340i so i'll have some good insights from owners perspective
Can you please make more comparisons, even without filiming, just talking about the car industry and trends. You are very knowledgeable and you present information well
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Thanks for your work, and your channel. Keep up the good work. Agree with your conclusion!
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im so happy to see a vide:)
I owned all 3 cars and the best driving car is the alfa, it just has a different behavior on the road. It is much more if a drivers car than the other 2
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"maybe they don't open the hood that often".you're something else. always great reviews Thomas!
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i just got an M340i about a month ago and i absolutely love it. It is the ideal balance between a fun car to drive that is practical as a daily driver for myself and my son.
Agree, but WAY different price points. You can almost buy a Guilia QV for what they want for a well equipped M340 here in California.
That’s because the true comparable is the 330. Not sure why this video is comparing the Giulia to a 340.
Top quality content
Nice review...congratulations!
thanks keep tuning in !
I look at the BMW and the Mercedes’ and then I look at my neighbours and the local taxi rank 🤦🏻♂️ and for anyone with a soul ❤️ it has to be the Alfa stunning 😍
Great review! For me, I would pick progressive steering without any doubt. I just wish that the headlight of the BMW 3er can be slimmer...
Don't think the Giulia is a fair fight against the 340i considering price and power..more similar to 330i imo
I would choose the Alpha, it’s the best looking vehicle. Plus Clarkson said you can’t be a true Petrohead until you have owned a Alpha.
Alfa...
Great video, thank you
Appreciated 🙏
You tell the Details in such a Fantastic way , i have just one Choice , want to buy all the Three you let see but i cant , maybe some day . Thanks
thanks Riaz =)
Enjoyed watching thanks although a bit unfair using a 2.0L Alfa against more expensive 3.0L V6's. Would still take the Alfa.
Great video! Thank you for full length
Bella la Giulia
Very nice review to watch!
Even if it is a very long video, there's plenty of interesting information. I would appreciate a more condensed video.
Ot is a surprising choice you have made, considering some of the limitations of the Alfa Romeo car, from many points of view. It is very fun to drive, but is missing some technical adjustments in terms of steering and stability. For a nonprofessional driver it may be risky to drive it.
I would choose 3 series, for the confidence it provides
If you see a Giulia in the face you see the style and the power in her eyes.
Hmm, why not compare the Veloce with the 330i and the C300 (or maybe the C400). The M340i and the C43 AMG are actively marketed as performance vehicles while the Guila Veloce is just the normal sedan with the biggest engine and in a slightly sporty trim.
These are the versions below the top performance versions, that's why
@@autogefuehl So what? you could simple tell us that Alfa doesn't have competitor in this category,Giulia between Veloce and QV. What a non-objectivity here,of course you are from Germany,but....
Only fair compare would be QV against M3 and C63AMG or Giulia 2.0 with BMW and Benz 2.0.
maybe people in Alfa have to detune v6 to 400hp and some minor changes for example to have a "version below the top performance". It's new terminology here,and to fight with AMG C43 both v6 below the top.... and to blow away theese two
"That's why" on the end of your comment is smell little bit of arrogant.
Test drove 2020 BMW 340i, Audi S5 and C43 coupe. All ride very nice but took home C43 because the exhaust and style of the C43 is just much better.
C43 win for me.
You should review with interior colors other than black. All black interiors don’t give a clear picture of what the design is if you pick a different color. The Guilia would look way different in the red or tan.
This must have been one of your best and a very sincere reviews of the 3 models, fair and very unbiased, my choice would surely be between the Ghulia and the 3 Series, but going with the heart, I am already aiming to get the Alfa Romeo Ghulia, it looks so sexy and awesome.
Congrats on the review!
Between these 3, I choose the Alfa Romeo.
From this class, the Lexus IS for me.
I agree, but the infotainment of the Lexus is a huge disadvantage. And they should introduce a whole new model.
If buying new, I would be inclined to the Lexus IS, possibly, as it is likely to be very reliable. That said, I agree that the IS is in dire need of an update.
Alfa ❤️
O 99 read all the comments... Alfa is a plebiscite (if you know what does it means lol)
Great channel and excellent videos Thomas. Thank you again.
Fun story.. we've had Alfa Romeos in family for over 25 years. Some of them really broke my heart. I bought a 530d years ago to replace one of our aging 159's (the then main family car). This 530d was then upgraded to a 530e hybrid. Again, this newer BMW is another great solid family car; reliable, comfortable, very safe and economical to run. The local BMW dealership here has been fantastic. It really has been a brilliant car. I will buy another 530e again in a heartbeat as a family car. But, when I needed a smaller car 'for me' it was Giulia. Giulia is thirsty, noisy and has had few problems. The local Alfa dealership is really terrible. But we found a good dealership ~430km away. There is no doubt the interior quality / infotainment system of a 330e is superior to my Giulia. Even after having such a very good owner experience with our 530e I was so very close to buying a 330e for the work commute. But, then unfortunately I test drove the Giulia and that was that. Will I ever learn? No. :)
Love the Giulia but it deserves a middle ground V6 to sit under the QF. The ride and handing are both excellent though.
@D GREGO literally the dream... the sound would also be so much more engaging
Just tune it for $1k and you have your 320hp. Simple.
Just to mention there is a small difference in engine power between US( 382hp) vs European version( 374 Hp) for M340i
At 1:02:26, if the steering is too direct right on centre, people (a lot of them) will complain that it's "Too twitchy" or "nervous feeling". You can't win. A lot of the owners are not really sporty drivers and they don't want to be making constant minor corrections at the wheel when they are cruising on the freeway.
Alfa was driven in the wet. The BMW and Mercedes in the dry. That is a factor. Alfa seemed maybe less polished but distinct in personality. They all have a personality but Alfa is the imperfect athlete of the three.
Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce and QV are the new kids on the block!!.
Would like to see your take on the Genesis G70 at some point.
i have Alfa Giulia Veloce petrol 2017. I had several bmws before but i love Giulia now. The only complains i have is fuel consumption, that infotainment wasnt too good in 2017, reign wipers cant be lifted up and left that way during cold winter nights, and the turning circle with some strange sound and feeling at the maximum rotation.
I have a 2019 TI Sport. I also noticed that sound with max rotation too. Thought it was just mine. My fuel consumption is great. Average 27 mpg. I can get up to 41 mpg if I can keep it under 65.
My God! If this video got any longer, it would compete with a Martin Scorsese movie.
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Most of the cars that crash on the Nordschleife are BMWs.
Most people say - Giulia, Giulia...but when come time to decide, buy BMW or Audi.
Hypocricy.
i like the look of the c43 the most, 2nd would be the giulia, 3rd bmw
germans reviwing Italian car is a most watch
👌😁
I don't need to see the whole video.
It's the ❤Giulia❤. No question.
Love the looks, the interior. And the drive.
Alfa Romeo! Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!
Alfa is so sexy and new that makes me feel younger!
Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce !!!
My heart says Giulia....My head says Mercedes...🤔
Undoubtedly the driving pleasure of the Giulia is unique. Both German cars have more toys to play with but no match for the Alfa,
Go Alfa, leave the Merc to grandma
I haven’t driven any of these cars but I drove a Tesla Model 3 Performance, that would be my choice. 0-60 in 3.5 sec, and 95 MPGe.
Overall I find the 3 series the best choice but I also like the Giulia very much though. Would only go for a C class if I would want a coupe otherwise not :)
M340 = $62,000. Guilia Veloce/TI here in US = $43,000. Excellent deals on 2020 Alfa at the moment.
Why do you find the 3 series best choice exactly?
MERC : AMG ! motor 6 cylinder ! Nice interior. Will hold value over at least 6 yrs. Dealer network. Just like the Autogefuhl end choice.
Somehow I think Thomas cheated a bit with the seating position ;-)
At 1:24:33 you can see, that the front seat of the Mercedes is actually positioned a bit behind the b pillar in order to give Thomas enough space to sit comfortably in front.
When he moves to the rear however, it's quite obvious that the front seat has been pushed a bit forward, since the backrest is now parallel to the b pillar. 1:30:37
When he tested the Alfa it seemed the other way around. 18:56
When he entered the rear the front seats were pushed back quite a bit and you got the impression, that this might be the smallest car of the 3 whereas the Alfa holds actually the biggest legroom of all ( 77 cm, BMW 73 cm, Mercedes 71 cm ).
So the test implies, that the Mercedes holds the most knee room in the rear and the Alfa the smallest.
According to the measurements it's the other way around ...
Hm, I have no reason to cheat tbh. I never move the seat from my driving position to when I am getting in the rear, exactly to get a good comparison. Maybe it looks like because of angle/perspective change. You can indeed have measurements yes, but the other thing is that the seat needs to be in a good driving position, and that really differs from car to car, e.g. how is the steering wheel mounted, how high is the seat, is it the sports seat (e.g. that very uncomfortable optional AMG bucket seat in the C43 we had there is way slimmer and therefore offers more legroom then the more comfortable normal sports seat!)
@@autogefuehl OK, thx for the reply.
I didn't want to imply that you actively changed positions to favour a certain car but I am also 1,86 meters tall and sat in both cars in the front and rear.
When I sit comfortably behind the wheel in a C Class, the seat is pushed way more back than seen in this video.
I do fit in the rear as well then but it's very tide.
In the Alfa I had more room for my legs remaining, when the front seat was adjusted to my height.
So maybe it was just a coincidence or weird angle of the camera but my experience was different.
But thx for the video otherwise, it was very good as usual.
cheers!
Alfa haters are everywhere. Time to get an Italian to do these reviews.
Is that a hydraulic steering reservoir in the engine bay?
ALFA😍😍😍
German car reviewer must use a yard stick to determine 0 to 60.
German car reviewer must have all the excitement of Helmut Markel.
Giulia for me ❤
Two hours!?!? There is thorough and then there is German.
here in egypt the veloce thats not 280 hp is called here super plus the same equipment and looks as the veloce just withouth 280 hp only 200 hp only and here the 280 hp is only availabe as AWD and the 200 hp is only available as RWD
Maybe it is time to ditch the ancient free mic and get a modern lapel mic? It would enable you to use both hands instead of struggling with just one as you are holding that huge ancient mic from the 1970s.
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Another great video. My heart is for the 3'er. Love the design, love the attention to detail everywhere (visible as well as hidden), love the ergonomics and most of all love the driving characteristics...
Been driving 3series close to a decade soon - and plan to do at least another decade in an BMW.. However I admire the other two as well.. I wouldn' t buy any of them without testdriving all three of them.. But the BMW has a healthy headstart for me personally..
Cheers!
Hey Allan, curious question: 2017 340i with only 24,000km on it but it's out of warranty. How long should I expect her to last with proper care and maintenance?
@@joshs3905 Mine currentl clocks in at approx 11 x the milage and still going strong.. No need to refill oil since last service yet for instance.. (I check the oil level in the display almost every ride - the motor w/o dipstick which I don't like).
I change oil two times every year - when i change to/from sommer/winter-tyres.
I expect it to last at least three more years..
@@allan.n.7227 good to know thanks a lot man, I'm stoked to own it. Feels so smooth to drive with nice punchy acceleration. So badass too when the active spoiler pops out on its own on the highway. Praying that she lasts me a good decade like yours !
@@joshs3905 You are welcome .. Fingers crossed.. 🤞
I have the Giulia. I just wish it was a bit louder and a bit more powerful.
Agreed, desperate needs a sport exhaust and about 50 more hp to play with M340 or C43.
alfa romeo giulia quadrifoglio
@@rico1k13 that’s next but the veloce should have a bit more
reading the comments we have 1 Alpha, 2 bmw and 3 mercedes; but sales are the opposite ... I don't understand
Sales figures do not necessarily reflect the car value... Very often in history we have seen the majority of people taking or supporting the wrong decision
@@aralfa Which wrong decision do you mean? Everyone has his own taste on looks.. but one thing ist clear... 6 cylinders beats 4 cylinders!
@@Lukas-og4oj There is so many bad cars selling very well, and vice versa. Humans are idiots most of the time, there is only few brilliant examples that moves is forward.
The Giulia is the best handling car and the most advanced. Its front suspensions are double wishbone (compared to the cheaper McPherson strut of the BMW 3 series, how is it possible on a supposedly sport car to use such a poor suspension?), but has a carbon fiber driveshaft and extended use of light alloys
It is the lightest car of the group. In its sportiest version It has a 90 degrees v6: this means that the centre of mass is lower than the inline BMW 6 cylinder
And since a v6 is short than an inline 6 cylinder, its second Moment of inertia is smaller as well: It is a more agile car
Every one saying Giulia in the comments but sells figures say something different.
Great video, but where is the audi.?
Why the Merc is Amg?
yes the right comparison should have been Giulia, 330I and audi4
i want wagon version of this
I want the Alfa. But if this is to be my last ICE car, the six cylinder BMW might win out. 🤔
Giulia wins unless you love the badges
HAHA. I may have to try this drinking game
😂😂
I have recently purchased a Giulia Veloce 280HP and I am very satisfied with the driving experience. Before the Giula I had a BMW X3M Competition, a beautiful car but with only one defect: every 8000km I had to change the tires.
Too much HP for an SUV
With Giulia is definitely another experience, but the drivability and fun has nothing to envy from more powerful cars. my2cents
Enjoy 😊
I thought the 330 was the comparable for Giulia, why is it being compared to 340?
I have the alfa romeo guilla
🏁🇮🇹.
I bet the ladies love your voice.
Love the Alfa and my heart would chose it but the head is saying Mercedes
You only live once;)
Merc seems to have a lot of shacking through the steering wheel. ! 🤷🏼♂️
ALFA ROMEO ❤️
Car needs oil. The gauge indicates near minimum.
I would choose BMWs front and technik, Alfas side and Back and Mercedes interior and exhaust. if I could mix them all three.
But, I would go for the c43. Considering everything long term value and quality
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