I do play on Mobile but I clearly see what Pepe's talking about all the time. I'm a big fan of Xabi Alonso so I bought the quick counter pack + the other benefits it offers, but I started receiving more goals, conceding in almost every counter counter attack, whether it was AI or PVP. It didn't matter how many Anchor Men I use or how far back I push my defenders and Holding Midfielders. I always concede, I've switched back to my long ball counter, Guess I'll wait till whenever Konami releases a Long Ball Counter Boosted Manager with 88 Proficiency
True that, Quick Counter just doesn't have the well-structured defense that Long Ball Counter has, which can give some formations quite some trouble defending.
@@ponbcka OP is not a noob. I face the same problem because i play on mobile. In addition, the defense structure on mobile with QC isn't that great compared to LBC and more reasons why people settle for LBC because of it's defensive shape and line.
That's an interesting point, I do agree I've seen more weird defensive movements with Quick Counter, while Long Ball Counter seems to be a lot smoother.
Hey! I might do it in the future, it was actually between possession & quick counter this time, but since Konami changed possession like 2 patches ago, I haven't really tested it extensively yet. But it's definitely on my list, although I can't promise when it comes, will probably still take quite a while.
I did it with 3-2-3-2 (game shows it as 3-3-2-2) with 3 CBs, 2 DMFs, 1 CMFs 2 AMFS (outside) and 2 CFs. Fun to play, challenging, good offensively and at pressing, but vulnerable against offensive formations, especially if the opponent manages to quickly skip your midfield. Outside CBs must be very fast (I used Wan-Bissaka & Hernandez), ideally, the central defender as well. If you want a more balanced approach, you could trade the CMF for another CB. Depending on how long it will take, I might have a formation guide up about it in the future.
Hey! I have 2 formation guides up for LBC, this one here for example I consider one of the best formations in the game, maybe it helps: czcams.com/video/K_A_qjkasfs/video.html
Unfortunately, possession is in a rather difficult spot right now where it's basically high risk but low reward, I'd say both Quick Counter and Long Ball Counter are not only easier to execute but also straight up better for most players. If you have the coins and like to play Quick Counter, I would go for it.
I wonder if they'll give it for 500 coins (which I actually consider quite fair) or make a 1500 pack again with players in it that most people won't need. The 500 coins Xabi Alonso was a brilliant move though, almost everybody will get it, so everybody will have the booster, which events it out, yet, everybody is now down 500 coins😁
Hey! For most people, 4-3-1-2 would work fine (I got a formation guide if you're interested, although it shows much LBC footage, it works fine with QC as long as you already know how QC works, but since you commented here, you probably do). Other than that, I also play 3-2-3-2 myself (or 3-3-2-2 as the game names it), which I think is offensively stronger, more fun, but harder to play and defend. I might release a formation guide for this one in the coming weeks.
I guess it's only a matter of time until we get a 88 rated booster manager for LBC, unless they purposely want to make the playstyle a bit weaker this way.
It's been a while since I last played Long Ball so take this information with care: Defensively, they're very similar. When I tried Long Ball (like months ago) the last time, I realized that the stamina was draining a bit faster, so I guess they will also make long runs but more of them, and probably not focusing on the goal, but the long ball recepient (thus the name). I'd have to take a closer look though to know for sure though.
Quick counter is better for scoring goals, counter attack is better for defense. there is no best style, It depends on how each of us plays.
That's a good way to put it, completely agree!
As a f2p player I grinded for xabi and I DONT REGRET IT SUIIIIII
Great content!! Play both but since patch with defensive AÍ so overpowered I play more QBC has I feel it creates much more chances
Obrigado! I completely agree, for me, it's also just more fun currently and defending poses an additional challenge😄
Great video mate.
Thanks!
I do play on Mobile but I clearly see what Pepe's talking about all the time. I'm a big fan of Xabi Alonso so I bought the quick counter pack + the other benefits it offers, but I started receiving more goals, conceding in almost every counter counter attack, whether it was AI or PVP. It didn't matter how many Anchor Men I use or how far back I push my defenders and Holding Midfielders. I always concede, I've switched back to my long ball counter, Guess I'll wait till whenever Konami releases a Long Ball Counter Boosted Manager with 88 Proficiency
True that, Quick Counter just doesn't have the well-structured defense that Long Ball Counter has, which can give some formations quite some trouble defending.
damn noob, ask the coinami to make the defense even more automated
@@ponbcka Your IQ puts the number "0" to shame.
@@ponbcka OP is not a noob. I face the same problem because i play on mobile. In addition, the defense structure on mobile with QC isn't that great compared to LBC and more reasons why people settle for LBC because of it's defensive shape and line.
Now there is the France pack bro go buy long ball counter
Personally, LBC is 'Meta' only because the team's AI logic performs WAY better than any of the other playstyles.
That's an interesting point, I do agree I've seen more weird defensive movements with Quick Counter, while Long Ball Counter seems to be a lot smoother.
Hello dear friend, please can you make a video for us to explain how to use the BOUCLIER maneuver to take the defenders
Hello! Do you mean shielding the ball?
Bro your content is great keep doing well
Thank you💪
Congratulations on the content. When possible, create about Out Wide
Thank you very much!
Nice breakdown! Just subscribed 🎉
Thanks, glad that you liked it💪
Sos el mejor, pa! saludos desde argentina
Gracias!
Tks for video great as always!
Thanks for the nice comment!😀
G can u do one for long ball i think its OP i gotta set up dat feels too op 😂
Hello! I have it planned, but unfortunately I'm a bit busy right now so I'm not sure when exactly I'll get to it. I won't forget about it though💪
Will you make video about pos game As well? Its better than any other playstyles,it depends on skills, its more fun
Hey! I might do it in the future, it was actually between possession & quick counter this time, but since Konami changed possession like 2 patches ago, I haven't really tested it extensively yet. But it's definitely on my list, although I can't promise when it comes, will probably still take quite a while.
Best explanation ever ...
Thanks, glad you liked it💪
Can you recommend some great formations to play QC Gegenpressing
I did it with 3-2-3-2 (game shows it as 3-3-2-2) with 3 CBs, 2 DMFs, 1 CMFs 2 AMFS (outside) and 2 CFs. Fun to play, challenging, good offensively and at pressing, but vulnerable against offensive formations, especially if the opponent manages to quickly skip your midfield. Outside CBs must be very fast (I used Wan-Bissaka & Hernandez), ideally, the central defender as well. If you want a more balanced approach, you could trade the CMF for another CB. Depending on how long it will take, I might have a formation guide up about it in the future.
make a video on the best formation for lbc 🤞🏻
Hey! I have 2 formation guides up for LBC, this one here for example I consider one of the best formations in the game, maybe it helps: czcams.com/video/K_A_qjkasfs/video.html
Im using the guardiola shop one for now, but the ball passion is so hard to play, should i grind to xabi or other pack?
Unfortunately, possession is in a rather difficult spot right now where it's basically high risk but low reward, I'd say both Quick Counter and Long Ball Counter are not only easier to execute but also straight up better for most players. If you have the coins and like to play Quick Counter, I would go for it.
Cant wait to see new 88 LBC Manager 😂
I wonder if they'll give it for 500 coins (which I actually consider quite fair) or make a 1500 pack again with players in it that most people won't need. The 500 coins Xabi Alonso was a brilliant move though, almost everybody will get it, so everybody will have the booster, which events it out, yet, everybody is now down 500 coins😁
@@PESPepe btw 3232 LBC is really fun
Sounds good! Haven't played that much yet, must test it in the future😁
What formation is best for Lbc bro?❤
I prefer 4-3-1-2 diamond, if you want to know more about it, here's a detailed formation guide: czcams.com/video/K_A_qjkasfs/video.html
What formation is best for qc??
Hey! For most people, 4-3-1-2 would work fine (I got a formation guide if you're interested, although it shows much LBC footage, it works fine with QC as long as you already know how QC works, but since you commented here, you probably do). Other than that, I also play 3-2-3-2 myself (or 3-3-2-2 as the game names it), which I think is offensively stronger, more fun, but harder to play and defend. I might release a formation guide for this one in the coming weeks.
We need booster ancelotti with 88 long ball countr
I guess it's only a matter of time until we get a 88 rated booster manager for LBC, unless they purposely want to make the playstyle a bit weaker this way.
Hey pes i mean this with the utmost respect
Has anyone ever told u sound like gru from despicable me
😂
Not that I knew😅
How does LBC differ from LB?
It's been a while since I last played Long Ball so take this information with care: Defensively, they're very similar. When I tried Long Ball (like months ago) the last time, I realized that the stamina was draining a bit faster, so I guess they will also make long runs but more of them, and probably not focusing on the goal, but the long ball recepient (thus the name). I'd have to take a closer look though to know for sure though.
@@PESPepe thanks bro! Very helpful as always!