The Community Killed Black Ops 4 Zombies
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Bo4 is my personal favorite zombies game, my family was in the middle of moving and all of our games except bo4 was in storage
Man same here, i was on a road trip and all we had was bo4 and we went to round 70 one time, tried to get there ever since
Sad you guys must have forgotten what a good game is cause bo4 brain rotted you
@@majin2351 I can like something and know it’s objectively bad too, I just have fun playing the game
@@majin2351sad that the hate train the likes of lex and mrwafflerofl's started them years back still has loyalists to their campaigns to kill this game from time JUMP!
And I say this because of how ignorant your response is! Where in ANY of this threads messages did anyone Even MENTION WAW-BO2?! Spoiler.. they DIDN'T because IT should go without saying and is the general consensus of the community at large anyways!
People like you are what fueled this (and further TO THIS DAYS..) decline of a mode millions adored and followed for over a decade!
Just because a large group of people consider THIS to be their favorite of the iterations is due largely because this game was MADE FOR the hardcore fan base!
You need to learn that just because other people's opinions differ from YOURS doesn't INSTANTLY invalidate THEIR opinions!!
In so many words BO4 is also my favorite of the iterations... But I ALSO love AND respect the versions that paved the way for BO4 to be what it is!
@Jjgardner0214 it does invalidate their opinions they like Bo4 zombies. Why should I respect such a garbage opinion, and why would I respect people with terrible taste in video games ? Their opinions don't deserve anything from me, and they are invalid which everyone in the cod community would agree they are
It was a mix, I think ultimately the biggest downfall was for some reason Treyarch just refused to give love to the Ether story, every single Ether storyline map was remake and reused assets and then every original new map was dedicated to the new crew which was a whole new story in itself and they NEVER FINISHED THAT STORY. They should have just solely focused every map to the crew we loved and have followed for over a decade
That's the funny thing bro they actually had everything set, the ending we got is not what was supposed to happen, because of hate it was like why support a game no one loves? You can actually search what bo4 originally was meant to be, there was a lot more to the Aether story than you think, there's leaks showing it, let me give you a quick example, the last map we were getting was going to have a very similar setting to Origins, no it wasn't going to be a complete remake like the others, it was a full fleshed out new map but in Origins theme, 2.0 basically and we were going to possibly get the staffs back or even another upgrade to them, we were going to get the great war and as the final boss fight, we were deadass going to fight Dr. Monty. But again it didn't happen because the community over exaggerated
@@maxthebabe they also released the game unfinished with all the crashing and blue screens so let’s not give the community all of the blame, and they started the new story before finishing the old beloved storyline not a great idea
@maxthebabe it's not over exaggeration whatsoever the game was terrible from the start, and those who like it are brainwashed idiots simple
@maxthebabe
While im sure the community reception had a small role in the lackluster DLC 3 and 4, most of the reason is that Treyarch had limited resources because they were forced into development for Cold War after sledgehammer couldnt finish their game.
I think it's crazy how favorable people think of gobblegums. It's literally the most predatory pay-to-win mechanic in any CoD game
If I remember correctly me and a lot of og zombies players didn’t buy this game bc of jugg
Pretty dumb fucking reason... 😂😂😂😂
The game sucks
I was turned off by the game the moment I saw the hud in leaked footage
@@paulallen2680i actually like the hud other than the perk portion
In Kino Der Toten's original intro, why does Rictofen ask "how many stations did this group have" as if he wasn't an established member of group 935 himself?
He distances himself at that point lol
@bossdogtx True but shouldn't he know that 935 had multiple facilities including the Kino Facility?
@@SoldOutToJesus100Maxis never told Richtofen about Kino
@thegreeter7027 idk maybe you're right, but I'd find that odd considering it wasn't really a secret within the company and Maxis even told Rictofen about the deal with the Reichstag, which was a company secret
@@SoldOutToJesus100 it’s probably due to Richtofen not agreeing to creating an undead army since he mostly wanted to make weapons and robots
You also have to understand Black Ops 4’s messy development cycle, which isn’t the faint of heart when they scrapped the Campaign and Blackout got greenlit due to the BR trend. Also, QA Testers were treated very awfully on play testing BO4 while Activision pushed the date up to October because Rockstar had a Red Dead 2 Nuke for the 2018 Fall.
No one cares
@@scarecrow7924 Understand that it was the reason why BO4 launched on a glitchy slate until major bug fixes were added in.
@@bartzacky9639what fr? That’s crazy asf because NO ONE cares
@@scarecrow7924 Still, but understand that BO4 could’ve been good if it was in a November release other than pushing up to compete at a single player game
@@scarecrow7924 A careless man wouldn't entertain the topic.
Imo, yes they did. Don't care what nobody says. They didn't give the game a proper chance, had they, it would've had better reception.
Just like iw zombies
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Facts
I didn’t mind it just a few gripes about it point system, and 4 perks max per map.
They ruined how perks and points work. That's a no starter.
Not really. I know BO4 had its flaws and problems, (For me was just the perk system), the game was still fun to play.
They tried to get rid of crutch perks, but instead they added more crutch perks.
@@blackwolfmedia7773 removing juggernog was their biggest mistake of all time.
I hated the point system, perk system, overly complex maps, and awful hud.
@@CalixtoGarciaIniguez1898 you get juggernog health at the start
I liked BO4 zombies. I got max prestige on it somehow, but am like level 640 on BO3.
BO4 Zombies would have prevailed if they kept the bo3 formula, Also ENDING Aether Story at the same time leaving a CHAOS Story on a CLIFF HANGER, the only thing i didnt like about BO4 Zombies is that they Ended it, ZC2 was suppose to be implemented, ZOMBIES DIED WHEN BO4 DIED, IW, CW, VANGARD, AND MWZ Shouldnt exist, We can thank Treyarch for even trying at this point, hell CW zombies isn't even their's, its IW and Acti zombies, i dont believe the community killed bo4 because what we have now is a gamemode with no plot, the idea of zombies came in form of a story. The HUD, UI, engine, and everything that is known as COD HQ has plagued the Franchise i fear for the worst
Fr bo4 blackout is super slept on, and on zombies it was some good stuff too
agreed if blackout was free to play warzone probably wouldve failed
@@FiveByte truu
@jesusarturomoreno71 How to prove you like terrible games:
@@majin2351 tf yk Abt my fav games bro I still rock bo1 and GTA 4 along with Mafia II I'm all into OG stuff, but bo4 has to get it's flowers
My answer to this Bo4 debate is that Treyarch was constantly changing ideas and was very ambitious with Bo4 and it obvious not everything turned out as planned. As a result everything didn't turn out as smooth for Bo4
I’ve never seen a community react so negatively to what was an amazing, content-filled product. I’m still playing BO4 all the time.
They took a popular game and changed how the BASE MECHANICS work. That's a huge no no.
@@eclipsegst9419Only slightly. Was still zombies at it's core
BO4 still today has my favorite zombies map, being Ancient Evil.
@@MrKing-he3eo Sure it was still round based but the way you set up for success was all messed up and worse. more health when you don't need it, less when you do. more points when you don't need it, less when you do. Its just worse.
@@eclipsegst9419 I liked the new point system better since it rewarded aiming for the head and you didn't have to think about how many times to shoot a zombie before knifing. The health part I understand. They should've made it a 4 perk thing like how speed cola was. I was just glad to use other perks.
Honestly wish they just wrapped up the aether storyline with a proper super Easter egg on zombies chronicles so that bo4 could of been dedicated to chaos
I think the issue was comfort bias. People didn't like the new stuff and weren't willing to actually give it a fair chance
I don’t know about y’all, but bo4 is definitely under appreciated, it’s not one of the best cods especially with zombies but it’s not the worst one either, I’ve actually been playing bo4 recently on Xbox n ps5 doing contracts for the reserve cases, just recently on the reserve stack in the store, I was offered the pentagon thief for 100cod points or 2 reserve cases, I snatched bro up for blackout quick.
Edit: and I have over 790+ hours on bo4, definitely one of my favorite cods especially cuz of black out, and on a random match of dead of the night, this random we were playing with started doing the Easter egg and we actually got it done, one of the first Easter eggs I’ve done for black ops 4 especially in 2024 🔥
you also gotta look at the fact that the team was split to work on the black out mode and the black out mode being the reason the health system was changed in the first place. if they had the full team on zombies bo4 would never have had the problems if did
No one cares
Can we also get an F in the chat for the ending of the 4 original beloved characters Dempsey, Takeo, Nikolai & Richthofen
My friends and I have some fond memories from bo4 funny moments in blood & IX especially
BO4 needing an internet connection to play is a reason not to play it.
Fortnite, Overwatch, CoD multiplayer, streaming services, CZcams, etc.
@@themelancholia3 of these are multiplayer games, zombies should be able to be played solo
hi boa just to let you know you have buzzing sound coming from your microphone, you may not be able to hear it because its around the 40 - 60 hz range but its not thatloud, most people wont be able to hear it but its just so you know
fella using the air traffic control headset
I love BO4 zombies. It’s not only my most played Cod zombies, but one of my most played games of all time. In my opinion, bo4 was hit by the perfect storm. The bad launch and many zombies influencers’ bad reviews creating a stigma for the game that never seemed to go away, Treyarch’s overambitious attempt to try and balance creating and promoting a brand new story, while also concluding their 10 year old story, (as much as I love it and will forever be bitter that they canned it, Chaos was never going to be able to compete with Aether’s 2nd or 3rd final arc), the extremely divisive gameplay changes, all of the cut content, and what I believe to be the biggest factor, Activision essentially deeming the game a failure and wanting to move on as soon as possible. I truly believe that bo4 had the potential to be one of the best zombies experiences, but now all we can do is ask “What if?”
The community is like 85% responsible, some core formula changes make up the last 15% for people who didn’t like the changes. (I don’t count glitches on launch as they have pretty much all been fixed now)
When you hear the behind the scenes plans for this game it makes me so angry that the community threw a fit for what I can only guess was “waaah we want aether maps now! now! now!” There was plans for 3 SEASONS PASSES for this game, that it would have a 4 year lifecycle. the first season pass was originally planned to be centered on chaos, but people were incredibly impatient and treyarch had to switch course which is why we switch to alpha omega mid season. The second season was supposed to be zombies chronicles 2 with all the remakes, some of which we saw like alpha omega and tag, but we missed out on two others, the final season would have been either a split between tying up chaos’ story and ending aether, or just completely relegated to aether (Great War map btw) but none of this ever happened because no one gave this game a chance because it was deemed too different from what we had before
I bought bo4 lately. The game is very fun, it's kinda casual but still it's good game. Imagine my face when I didn't find any zombie match on pc. In game from 2018. Very sad
Let’s all not forget that Activision shafted the zombies dev team by putting all their chips on blackout and prioritizing making the multiplayer the games “campaign” was a terrible idea. While they wanted the devs to focus more on the new story while using the aether storyline as a means to draw in newer and old players and also Activision just not giving the zombies devs the funding they needed to make the aether storyline more intriguing but most of us were all wearing rose tinted glasses playing the aether storyline during black ops 4
It is true, if the game would've gotten more love, we would've gotten those 4 other Chaos and Aether maps, and zombies chronicles 2, they weren't appreciative of what they did for us, and who knows maybe they would've changed the perk system back to normal down the line, bo4 life cycle support was supposed to be longer than bo3's, once we got zombies games after bo4, many realized what we got wasn't bad and started appreciating it and they aren't ready to admit that (The unnecessary bo4 haters)
Dead of night is in my top 3 favorite maps. Theme slapped, ambience was great, layout was amazing
Bo4 zombies was fun that’s what gaming is suppose to be
I know that there are people who loved or at the least like playing bo4, heck my best friends and my brother heckled this on me but, for me, it feels like on of those fancy restaurants with the small meals, style over substance
It’s very interesting to me, the impact this game had on the community. People who played it during its life cycle seem to not think of it highly or even dislike it all together. I never got the chance to play it during its life cycle. But I’ve gone back to play it over the past few years and I think it’s one of the best for zombies. In my opinion IX, Ancient Evil, are in my top 5 maps oat. And the only map I really didn’t like was voyage
Talking about the hivemind and people just going with the opinions of CZcamsrs,
Everyone also feels like they have to. If I told someone I liked tranzit I'd get beaten to death as if I came out as gay in Qatar. We have to hold, or pretend to hold, these opinions so we don't get attacked by the community.
I like tranzit but I hate bo4
You can literally play hardcore which gives you 3 bars of health , and you can do the Easter eggs. That's what I've played on since the game has been out , 4 is too easy
dude was playing with fucking 250 health and complained about the game being too easy at the beginning because of the free Jugg
I am an AVID Bo4 defender. I can understand mostly what people didn't like, but for most arguments I simply disagree. I understand on paper how changes like the perks and elixirs and layouts are bad, but the thing is, every time I play Bo4, I have so much fun. The perks and specialist are the only things I really see myself disliking, but even then I've never thought they were bad, only that they could be easily improved whilst maintaining their purpose. And for elixirs, I never used gobblegums anyway.
And when comparing it to something like cold war I find it interesting. I feel that Cold War only SEEMS popular, but in reality it's fans consist mainly of Warzone players or those who were always on the edge of zombies. I think youtubers supported it because the EE's were so accessible, the general community seemed to like it so it was good content, and because we were in a drought. Looking back at it now I don't understand how anyone can think Cold War isn't at the bottom of the list (above Vanguard and MWZ, of course). It only has 4 maps, it's mechanics are warzone plants to attract CoD's biggest player base, and the few maps it does have are just random facilities. Plus, it started the crappy "open world" trend that caused Vanguard and MWZ.
To me, Bo4 mastered one of the most important things, care. You can feel that the game was made because they cared. Nowadays it feels like the game was made so that they have something to sell.
I've been playing bo3 again recently. For the love of god, I forgot that they balanced the third hit by allowing rhe zombies to windmill.
I also people waited on development after release they would’ve been content with the game itself.
despite the perk system, Bo4 is probably a top 3 zombies mode for me. Bo3 will never be beaten as #1 unless another game gets mod tools though.
Idk if you'll see this, but I'm I long time fan of cod zombies, and idk if anyone has talked about or even agrees with me, but
And I just find it fascinating that me personally, found that zombies started to fall with the blundel era of games, don't get me wrong he made some pretty good games and patched the story together in an alright manner, but the way he would treat legacy characters, like for example
1. Maxis, such potential, poorly wasted, killed in a disrespectful way
2. The victis crew, maybe not everyone's favorite but they had character, and they just got pushed aside and subsequently killed
3. Gersh, was such an interesting character an when we finally got him back, he was used as an ee step an immediately killed
4. The shadows of evil crew, they were VERY instresting, but in the same map they were introduced, they were also killed
5. In the story road map, the call of the dead crew were just killed, that's it, even introduced a new character being George's assistant, she got trapped in shang.
I believe the only character that got better development was Pablo, but that's just one character out of all the ones that era just killed off.
I think Jason b had a massive problem with just killing off characters.
This is becoming a more and more common philosophy in the entertainment industry.
There’s no need to hold the devs accountable when we’re making excuses for incompetence.
I love Black Ops 4 too, I think it’s way better than any subsequent zombies mode we’ve had since, but let’s not act like every fiber of it is designed so poorly that it practically attracts criticism.
To me and I am a hardcore zomb head four was tight no where to rest against a wall. You have to constantly be on a swivel. Taking out typical perks it's just ridiculous no level was pushed. Shadows of evil is the Pinnacle of this realm we live in.
Maybe we should’ve stopped trying to rush to the end. We all wanted it to end so badly before they could ruin it and then it ended…. So badly.
My only gripe with black ops four zombies is the perk thing
Sadly this is the last game we will ever have true map design. After this warzone merged with zombies and every map is a grey abandon military base 😢😢
I think if chaos crew wasn't in bo4. Then bo4 would be better but story wise we would gotta better maps and a better ending. A ending where instead of cold war starting a new Aether storyline, it would of been the chaos storyline or something similar
When dude said he uses 250 health boost on BO4 I said "Hoooly shit" out loud because the game is NOT designed with that in mind. The zombies hit like half as frequently as bo3. My god, do not decrease the game's difficulty. The game was supposed to have 200 health at launch but was implemented days after release. Did not intend on the game making you have 150 HP, it was kept in after they pulled Jugg out of the game late in development.
I just don’t understand the hate towards the chaos storyline. Like, what was so bad about it. I was much more interested in seeing all the cool mythology then anything that aether ever did to be honest. I get people didn’t like the characters, but they got better in ancient evil.
I was sick of having every Easter egg solved straight away and plastered on CZcams. The excitement was lost. I’m not sure if the CZcamsrs were given the steps by the developers?
Imho, no. The blame should be put on the devs. The 2 hit downs on release was atrocious, along with the infamous blue screens along the EE’s. Sure they whinged but there was good merit for the whinging.
Let’s be real it failed bc they changed the entire system. Had the entire community in hashtag rip jugg
You're just another one of them 😂
It needed to be changed. Look how bad things are now.
If you had cold war perks in BO4 everyone would be riding BO4 for still "being to difficult"
@@nathanthompson2369 it should’ve never been changed from the original quick revive jugg speed cola double tap.
@@dipsetplanz Cold War is even more of a joke
I believe that these cod zombies YTs helped killed this game because it wasn’t what “ they wanted” but i loved it especially the chaos which i thought they were continue story but unfortunately well never get a good story like this again
CZcamsrs just voiced what the community thought. I saw the leaked footage of the game and I was so disappointed, it was unreal. Shit perk system, shit point system, shit hud, ugly looking graphics, and overly complex maps
Because people don’t like new things.
Well made
I remember preordering BO4 and i got every DLC. and at the time i liked the game. but going back and playing it again. i would Rather play Die rise over most Maps didnt like the chaos maps. but they were not terrible i felt like i wasted money for the most part
With World at War, BO1 and BO2 Zombies, the two hit health mechanic was very BS*ed.
Many times, for some reason, the game is either bugged out or something and what should have been a one swipe/one hit from a single zombie that should have done one damage of the two health, instead counts as double damage for no reason and downs the player.
The zombie should have been easily avoidable with at least one hit on the player and continue on running past, but at full health one hit does double damage?
Too many times, it does that and ruins the run.
I have even tested with Juggernog and it shows it took two health for what should have been one health point of four.
Yea I think so just because we didn’t have some things it didn’t mean the end of the world to me I could tell that they tried
Guy did you just say that the black ops three specialist weapons weren’t very good? Bro, I can tell you do not go for high rounds.
For me, personally, what killed Zombies was getting rid of the original ultimis crew, why? Because for me what made me "fell in love" with zombies was the main characters, their quotations, their chemistry between them, their mystery, the horror you could feel in the atmosphere of the original maps, I don't know, that's what really made me enjoy the game and wanting to come back to it over and over agin, then all of the changes happened and made me care less for it, I still play WaW because of those same reasons, and of course, the love that modders poured into custom zombies. Don't take me wrong, I LOVE the primis crew, I thought it was a GREAT way of "updating" or "changing" the characters but the ultimis crew are, just, special in their own way.
The issue with that is the characters were written into a wall.thwy couldn’t go any more forward because of bo3,since bo3 is just the ending of the cycle before we restart it just means we do t go anywhere whit back to the beginning.
im a long time fan of cod zombies and i just got bo4 last week, i hoped into the "worst map" i know Alpha Omega, lol , and tbh i found it realy cool and i love the lore from that map(the only part i hated was the nova crawlers), and i got in BOTD and it was amazing, in lore aspect i think its mabye the best map ever and gameplay wasnt bad also. mabye im just new to the game but i agree with this video for now.
I love how the exact things the community complained about are the exact things they are ok with in cw and the newer games. Specialists being a crutch? Aether shroud. Perks were something they didnt bother with or didnt think about? Same thing with you being able to buy all the perks without giving any thoughts about which one. CZcamsrs raging at the bugs? I cant really comment on this cause the last cod game i watched was cold war, but the only clip of mw3z ive seen was a bug that happened. Why do we have so many remakes in bo4 so much? Well, cw, is just all reused assets, and mw3... Oh boy, not to mention gulf war starting out with 2 remakes, like bruh the reason for remaking old content is to give it that new look, the new graphics and improved mechanics that werent possible back then, but zetsubou isnt that old, it looks good, and gameplay is good too. Why remake zetsubou?
Also some of these are just from what i heard during the bo4 lifecycle, it might not be a big pool of people, but people did indeed complain about some of these.
I liked having more than 4 perks so I like Cold War, I didn’t like bo4 removing perks and adding them in other ways. I still hate the point system. I don’t like the specialist systems. I don’t like the maps in bo4 or Cold War. I hate the hud in both games as well.
Nah the day one crashing was killing that game
You could blame activison for rushing them to release the game before it was even done,if they had the time they should’ve had them we wouldn’t have had day one crashes,but then again bo3 had them too
There is no question the community killed thus game.
It's too bad because bo4 is ten times better than anything that has been released since.
True
new cod zombies games makes me appeirctae bo4 for what is was, its not perfect but there is some really good stuff there, the only terrible maps are voyage and alpha omega the rest are either good or great
Voyage of despair = shit
IX = good
Blood of the dead = shit
Classified = okay
Dead of the night = shit
Tag der toten = okay
Ancient Evil = okay
Alpha Omega = shit
1 good map, 3 average maps, 4 shit maps
@@paulallen2680 cool opinion 👍
Blue screens killed bo4
BO4 maps look the most beautiful out of any zombies maps. I can feel the love that they put into making this game. But It failed because of the missteps that were taken. I also felt that community exaggerated it a bit, going as far as saying that it is the worst zombies experience. Just go look at Vanguard and how bad it is. BO4 could have been much much better if Treyarch stuck with the mechanics of BO3.
I WILL watch this video in it's entirety, but I'm leaving my comment at the :24 mark just because of comments i scrolled through. BO4 zombies is a 1% zombie game. Constant quitters, the "fun maps" having intricate steps, older zombies you could make crawlers to slow the game down and in this one you can't, the point system overhaul, crappy Perks that won't help past round 20, this was a zombies game designed for the hardcore, not your kino casuals🤷♂️ This game was too hard for most of the community that can't open PaP solo honestly💯
Yeah they did, it's their fault look this zombies had everything to work especially the story it was on point the maps were great and it was a fun zombies games.
It's really a shame that CZcamsrs at the time didn't realize the great gem they had, instead they decided to dump on this zombies I really wish they continued with the chaos the dark eather story is done it was really supposed to be done in the BO4 like I wish Cold war was about the chaos like we got another eather story that is so lost that I highly doubt the next cod will make sense.
I don't like the direction MW3 zombies has gone but I think people need to realise this is Modern Warfare Zombies, its a different subfranchise. If they make a new Black Ops zombies and don't make it round based then I get the outrage but just like the outrage over extinction or exo zombies for not being classic zombies, I don't think the hate is warranted
i actually like bo4 zombies especially blood i think its pretty awesome with the hellish aesthetic and voyage isnt do bad i just dont know why ppl dislike it or any of the other maps except for nuketown its kinda meh but the avagadro was pretty cool and along side thr talk about bo3 the maps are great except for DE its kinda tedious and i cant get past round 5 without leaving for being boring but stay for the others cuz they are also tedious but the end is a pretty good reward like the masamune but i think bo3 itself a pretty lame zombies experience if ur just going for rounds and idk why a bunch of ppl hate ZNS it think its a great map it was the more enjoyable one i played besides starting a plant farm there
The developers ruined bo4 zombies not the community, if they had of kept the same perk system and gameplay from the other black ops zombies then it wouldn’t have been as bad as it was
I actually don’t get it. Why do people hate black ops 4? The only thing I’m hating on is how hard the Easter eggs are. Anything else in black ops 4 is great. Side note: the bot feature where you select to play with bots is so good and I hope they implement that in the new black ops 2 remaster but it does needs some fixes done on it.
It was revamped and snitched out. This zombies had the most crashes, problems, and leaks or wasn't even funny
Custom Mutations was great too.
@@dipsetplanz yeah I didn’t like it when my game crashes at round 56 and I lose all my earned XP and liquid divinium, but anything GB other than that I had fun! Too bad I scratched my game disc so I can’t play anymore. And the game is TOO EXPENSIVE so I’m not buying it anytime soon. But the bo4 memories were all good ones (instead of the classified crashes and Easter egg attempts).
Black Ops 4 is my favorite zombies game so take that how you will but because of that to me it seems like the community killed it because nobody liked it because the people they look up to didn’t give it a chance
I liked bo4 allready,=the weopons/speciallists weopons,
and bo4 zombies is the best/i can get to round 70.
For easy/with everything.
Sony/ps4 knows i play 9 like i played the black ops campain.
I rewatch/play games sam worthington is in,we like the same stuff=pun for the name.
Activision sees success of Bo3 and decides to put max resources and money into Bo4. Bo4 flops, Activision does the math and decides no point giving resources to Zombies if its gonna flop. Now here we are in '24 praying they can find their talent again, after all Zombies never NEEDED the mass funding, just a soul.
Finger pointing title.
Treyarch Killed Black Ops 4 before even launching the game.
They removed Juggernaut.
They narratively set up the great war map, and then did a bait and switch with Tag Der Toten.
They brutally executed characters we have been on an emotional journey with since 2010 Black Ops.
They regurgitated assets like some sort of writers block was happening. (Mob re used, nuketown re used, call of the dead re used, 5 re used)
Thought instead of following up on Black ops 3 formula, (which was made by building upon a trail and erorr process lasting throughout 2 console life spans, and 3 unique titles, waw, bops1 and bops2) instead of following up on that formula thought, naw nows the time to innovate.
Those decisions, not the community perception or receival, those decisions cost treyarch black ops 4 success. Period.
I didnt like BO4 zombies. Not because of Community comments. When i got it, for free from the ps store, i was excited to play zombies but i found it to be a bit much. I think they made changes to things that werent needed the perk system and gobblegums. The specialist did come in handy and was a great feature but one that wasnt needed i would say. I think they deviated a bit too much away from bo3. That plus the cancelled 2 year dlc, poor launch and cut budget really hurt it. Influencers were not optimistic but i also think BO3 hurt it as well because of how good it was and to try and follow it up was gonna be hard also
I say this all the time we were to harsh on this game and fucked over our selves on why zombies is how it is now because this game now we get to heart or soul in maps and is basically trying to be turned into DMZ like I’m not here for it hopefully treyarch been cooking 🧑🍳 if this one sucks this year I won’t buy anymore at all I’ve skipped last 3
The reason BO4 failed is because of franchise fatigue. BO4 also had too many remake maps. The fans and community are the only ones keeping the games alive. I for one loved voyage of despair and perfer that one over IX, but the community disagrees with me. I also liked tranzit but yall always fight me on that one.
honestly got tired of lex screaming to top of his lungs if anyone said bo4 was good. IMO bo4 didn't deserve the hate it got but it really had good maps and and i do agree that everyone alwaysgot jug, stam, speed, and double tap without increasing the perk limit was a good idea to get them a different way so you can use the other perk aswell.
I have a ton of fun on BO4, and has some pretty good maps, i just think people are TOO negative towards things, BO4 tried something new, innovated, nothing stays the same forever, change is inevitable, but did BO4 change it for the best, thats debatable, but they tried something different.
I feel like it’s ok to talk about a games flaws but BO4 was a pretty good game I liked a lot about the game
Great video but I dont think you can blame the community for how badly this game was taken. The devs ruined it for themselves by changing too much to the point no one wanted to play it. People had their right to criticise the mode they loved as they seen it go downhill in their eyes. The fall off of zombies is down to the devs and the devs only. Although I don't mind the chaos maps (excluding voyage) the aether side of this game was dreadful and lazy which again is on the developers.
BO4 is the pinnacle of zombies. Yes BO3 had great maps like Der Eisendrache & Shadows of Evil it also had the worst map (in my opinion) being Zetsubou along with a super anti-climactic and lazy map of revelations clearly designed for casuals even though it’s the finale & the super EE. The perk system and the removal of jug somehow being a problem is absolutely insane to me your given an extra hit on top of what you would’ve been able to take with the perk as a base health system so your argument is either this makes the game too easy (which can be a valid point) or “wah-wah I can’t play every single game exactly the same as the last and hear the jug song”. Either way the argument is stupid. Give me the extra health and the ability to customize exactly what perks I can have and the modifier slot boosting attributes of a perk is a cool idea and fun way to balance the game while giving the player a choice in the matter. It seems people really just have a problem with the chaos story seemingly taking precedence over the aether story line. Which is also completely dumb. The chaos story was fun and interesting with a crew that reminded me a lot of the Victis crew but with their own unique charms. Honestly I would’ve been completely fine with the Aether story line being finished in BO3 THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED TO BE BEFORE UNPLEASABLE FANS BEGAN CRYING AND SOILING THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY DIDNT LIKE THE ENDING. Since then everything the developers and story writers made just got shit on by the community. Complaints about blood of the dead not being as good (even though it’s a superior map, with a better layout expanded lore and challenging EE to balance out the Classified EE which was a challenge made entirely for high rounders/Casuals) the community went from loving the art and passion of the zombies creators to becoming fault finding butt-pirates who spent their days complaining about how things weren’t exactly how they thought it should be. YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER BOA. You’re not even a real member of the community you’ve made a name (that’s in a wild decline) by piggybacking off of something other people built around you. Youre the adam22 of the zombies community. In conclusion when people stop nostalgia-tripping and look at the game objectively yes it did have some faults (like it crashed every other game when first released at least on ps4) but was it still better than bo3 yes, it’s an extremely prominent yes. It built up on the systems, visuals, gameplay and mechanics and made them better. So please stop all the crying about the decline of the games when you, and people like you are the reason as to why this once amazing game mode is now completely garbage.
Clearly it wasn’t the pinnacle of zombies😂. If it was then it wouldn’t have been such a failure. I’m not reading all that nonsense of yours when your false reality goes against what actually happened. Maybe pinnacle zombies to you…
@@paulallen2680if activison didn’t rush them to reals the game early just so they didn’t have to compete with red dead redemption the game would’ve had some campaign and better development.Aside from that the two stories were good and the perk system was top tier just people don’t understand d and couldn’t adapt to it
@@JulioHernandez-vi9to I hate the perk system and I know how it works. The game had enough development time. They literally made four zombie maps, how did they not have enough time. Your argument that players just couldn’t adapt to the new system could be used to justify vanguard zombies replacing zombies, you just couldn’t adapt to it.
don't agree that black ops 4 is the biggest zombie game to date. I think black ops 3 has much more content to offer. The only thing missing are gauntlets which honestly no-one wants...
Personally yes the community did kill bo4 zombies
Nah fuck this shit. Bo3 is the last good zombie
I'm not a b04 simp or nothing but if yall think the reason why we didn't get the other maps such as the great war isn't because the hate this game got , your lying to yourself, and the cherry on top y'all ran off the best guy we had Jason
Treyarch fucked up when they made Black Ops 3 because it was so good everything else pales in comparison
Yeah but it wasn’t
@@lolcow6668 maybe not for you but for me, it’s S tier. Best graphics, sound design, characters/story, the movement, the HUD, no hitmarkers and other multiplayer shit cluttering up the screen, the point system, gobblegums, Easter egg quests that are not too simple like Cold War and not as convoluted as BO4, the trailers for the map still give me chills after almost a decade and best of all no battle pass bullshit! Sure it had supply drops but not for zombies just liquid divinium which can be purchased or earned in game. 10/10 zombies mode in my opinion which game is your favorite?
@@ronaldraygun3591I enjoy the perk system of Cold War and spawning with loadouts (I don’t like how the weapons themselves were balanced in a way that they were all good at killing zombies which I think was changed because of the point system).
I liked bo3 for everything else.
@@paulallen2680 Cold War was fun but it suffers from the operator system, such as playing as Sam in fire base z and rescuing Sam at the same time so there’s two of her in the cutscene wearing the exact same outfit. It breaks the immersion when the clown from Dark Knight is the one rescuing Sam too. And don’t forget the epic cutscene on Die Machine when your operator exfils on the chopper, I still get goosebumps watching it fly away. But in all seriousness the old story is the best, and I feel something every time I watch the great endgame cutscenes of Origins or DE or even Gorod Krovi. I had to google search Die Machine because I couldn’t remember the name it’s just nacht remastered, but I remember:
“my Dad says he has a plan….”
“Good to see you Tank”
“Before the bombs fell, before she was…taken from us”
Even ZNS “The orders came from the emperor himself!”
Old zombies was memorable with character new zombies is a way to rank up weapons and battle pass or camo grind. I want to hear Dempsey’s field reports, open the gateway to Agartha, give glory to the emperor and save the innocent souls of the characters while Nikolai talks about his many imaginary wives and drinks vodka.
Zet is horrible tho
Nope, Treyarch fumbled the game, and they continued the fumble cycle.
Bo4 lover ☝️
what killed the Black ops 4 zombies is the fact there was a free elixir that would teleport you to a down player and then they changed the cool down to take a whole round before it could cool down in the only time you really need to use it is that round 20 where rounds start to take forever
BO4 is easily my least favorite zombies experience because I’m personally a gameplay first kinda player.
A majority of BO4’s maps are poorly designed and the gameplay systems aren’t well thought out which leads to a lack luster gameplay experience which is what I felt back in 2018 and still do. The story and visual design is great for sure, but that isn’t something that gets me to play the game.
One of the best in the franchise. Wayyyy under rated. I still play!
10:43 The reason they didn't release a trailer or any sort of hype was because at the time a developer leaked all of the dead of the night stuff early, literally straight up showed the map, wonder weapon, bosses, soundtrack, front cover, the story, etc. he got fired for doing that, since it was all exposed and shown to us, there was no point of them showing a trailer really, I think they should've anyways but that's why
He only got fire at going at their lunch break at the wrong timing, hence the firing, and because management there wasn’t good, he had to leak tons of secrets on the COD Zombies Reddit out of spite over the turbulent working conditions on QA Testing.
Ya he wasn't a developer he was just some butt hurt QA tester who ended up going to MrROFLwaffles Livestream for the day one EE hunts, donating $1 with a comment giving them EXACT solutions to whatever step they would have been currently stuck on at that time... Map was ALREADY stealth dropped before he butted in his BULLSHIT ruining one of the best parts of a new map for EVERYONE!
Not to dismiss your opinion though but I believe it MORE SO had to do with the fact that DOTN was SUPPOSED TO BE the launch map for the Chaos storyline... Which would have set up the next 2 maps (Voyage & IX) seamlessly! Unfortunately the celebrity crew couldn't coordinate all their lines before BO4's Launch, so they had to start a BRAND NEW STORY in a completely jumbled order!!! At which point I feel like BLUNDELL would have tried to get DOTN out as QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE if for NO OTHER REASON than so people could at least SOMEWHAT UNDERSTAND WTFFFFFFFFFF was happening with this chaos story!
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Here's a controversial opinion: if BO4 released today, it would've been praised.
That game was trash
The specialist weapons killed it along with shitty new perks
Because it was trash. All we wanted was to be able to play as Ultimus again and they let us, but then ruined it with a Kool aid ending. And nobody asked for a new crew. But at least it was a crew not just Ops. But changing how points and perks work was dogshit
Personally, I though the game was good, some of those maps are so good, for example, Ancient Evil, it was a great map
@@it2spooky4me79 most of the maps would be excellent in BO3. But BO4 mechanics just suck.
@@eclipsegst9419 BO4 mechanics indeed did suck, but the maps themselves were great, but honestly I would just keep them in BO4, since most of the map coincide with BO4 mechanics, mainly the Chaos maps.
@@it2spooky4me79 Eh I think they would still be better with BO3 mechanics even if they kept the characters and etc from BO4. Just change the perks and points back
@@eclipsegst9419 honestly I want them with IW mechanics
Nope black ops 4 was a greedy cash grab. Terrible pay to win U I
No campaign to compete for Fortnite
Activison forced them to release it early so they couldn’t even finish the campaign, activison rushing them really ruined it’s life cycle
the original call of duty trilogy is way better than that shit rebooted trash