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I was also scared by this story in a way, and couldn't help but see similarities between myself and Jack. I also enjoy Project Zomboid, one of the games the group played I believe. But more seriously, myself and some of my friends inhabited some very similar unsupervised, and crankish, online spaces when I was a teenager that was full of much the same crap that Jack's online world was full of. One of these groups that a friend of mine was in even showed up in an Israeli newspaper about the rise of antisemitism in the UK, which was the wake up call for me to get the hell out of the there.
When I think about the kinds of role models in my teenage years who impacted me the most positively, and helped steer me away from those spaces, it was the kind of people you talked about - younger teachers in their 20s and 30s. The young history teacher who started the school debate club comes to mind for me. He was the guy we went to for advice when we realised the groups we were in were not ok. But once you leave school, it's lot harder to find these role models in my experience, especially with Covid in the last few years. I do think that the impact of Covid in sending our generation permanently online for two years is not discussed enough - it led to both a lack of real world role models and more time spent online to get sucked into dangerous online echo chambers.
I'm 22 now and I go to university, but I can't really think of any of those role models like my high school teachers, in my life now. University has felt very corporate and impersonal to me (Covid certainly influenced this), in a way that made it harder to make meaningful relationships with older professors and tutors, but this video has made me think that maybe I could have tried harder to foster those relationships, and should do more going forward. Maybe if I had tried harder I would feel less scared about graduating and have more of a plan lol.
Anyway, a very thought-provoking and refreshing video, its nice to see you in a sort of less scripted and more casual format from time to time. :)
'I do think that the impact of Covid in sending our generation permanently online for two years is not discussed enough'
I felt this hard. So many young people have ended up in a dark place, mentally and in terms of what they believe, because of the lack of moderation in online spaces they're spending all their time in. The lack of human connection had a tangible impact. Humans are social creatures by nature - what do we have when that is taken away?
University is definitely more corporate place, a lot soulless compared to highschool IMHO. But I guess we gotta get that degree or else HR isn't going to give you a shot. Sucks it works this way. Gen Z is screwed beyond belief.
I have a similar experience, because of my passion for history and the dark time I had ( I had just started to distance myself from my bully friends) I started following various yt channels that misinformed me.
After one or two years, COVID started and I started to talk about what I thought after watching lots of conspiracy history. Luckily I talked about that with my history teacher and she called out to me all the bullshit that I was saying.
This made me distance from "conspiracy communities" and made me a better person overall ( I firmly believe that I can improve more) because this communities in general do not help people in any way, and joining this group of people is a coping mechanism to not deal with the world.
If you read this pamphlet, I am grateful for your time and attention.
Thanks also to the original poster of his story, it inspired me to write this comment
I couldn't agree more. I am also 22 and spent my first year of uni in lockdown so everything was online. Even though I was living in campus accommodation with ten other people, I still felt very separate from my University staff and ethos. In a weird way, 2020 has probably been the happiest year of my life, which is scary to say. I think the pandemic has fucked us up in ways we are yet to fully understand.
I have found the further I remove myself from the internet ( e.g. spending more time reading physical books, deleting social media accounts) the more grounded and happy I become. Luckily, I remember growing up without a phone until I was about 12/13 and even that that was just for emergencies so truly not until I was 15. I fear for the next generation that are effectively growing up in symbiosis with the internet and mobile screen devices etc. The social pressure alone that comes with this technology is strangely alien an detached from what it means to be human yet seems to hold so much sway on society as a whole.
Damn I've played that game since it first came out in Desura!
You know JJ is serious when he's sitting in an actual chair.
Not a exercise ball he always sit on all his videos
Walter Blanco?!?!?
False article really military lakes in shitposting serverđ
He also is using his serious tone of voice. I almost expected him to say "young man, you are in serious trouble"
And dropping F-bombs!
I love real JJ so much. As my 8th grade English teacher told us: âSwearing only has value if you never swear.â Hearing JJ swear hits hard and you can feel his emotions because heâs usually so clean. †u JJ
Agreed, when j j said âBULLSHITâ that hit hard
I agree. In my family swear words are thrown around like other words all the time, so they don't hold any value.
I appreciate the emphasis on adults being role models for children. Children are turning to TikTok for guidence and the level of stupid i have seen there blows my mind
It's particularly helpful for us Americans, due to how thick of a Canadian accent he has
So true
The recent TikTok congressional hearing has shown that America's adults don't have a clue how kids interact online. I can understand why Jack and his friends felt smarter than everyone else - the number of technologically literate adults supervising them must have been 0.
The TikTok hearing show that TikTok should be ban
I think most of them know
Itâs just that they donât care and want an excuse to give the government more power
@@americanloyalist4599 again unfortunately the US Government wants to use TikTok as an excuse to get even more power
Did you know what is in the restrict act itâs practically the Patriot Acts Little Brother
@@americanloyalist4599 no it should address the concerns don't ban it. If the concern is privacy then make legeslation for it, don't ban tiktok
@@americanloyalist4599 The proposed bill floating around that's ostensibly meant to address TikTok actually has the potential to deprive Americans of many internet and privacy freedoms. It's taking advantage of the hysteria to push a Patriot Act 2.0. I DO NOT like TikTok, but if we are to ban it certainly should not be through those that. There are even lobbyists pushing to bring back SOPA/PIPA-like internet policing and restriction bills to it. OP is correct these adults have no idea what authoritarian crap they're pushing.
JJ, this was SERIOUSLY refreshing. I'm gonna ASK you to consider maybe doing one of these a week. Just pick a current event and discuss, in casual form like this.
You're deeply insightful, thoroughly witty, clever, and well-spoken, and your politics and views are absolutely worth sharing.
Thank you for taking the time.
Thank YOU for the kind words.
+1
@@JJMcCullough as much as I love this video, please don't JJ, I love your channel so much for the facts you provide through the general political anonymousness that you carry. Being able to learn about government and the world without blatant political bias feels like such a weight off my shoulders every week. I can't tell you how much your videos truly mean to me.
@@hoprockerproductions what part of this was at all politically biased?
â@@JJMcCullough JJ I'm going to DC soon do you still write for the post? Going to pick a copy up
"Don't be like Jack" sounds like a line plucked from a WW2 poster.
Or from an anti drug campaign
Sounds a bit like anti Jullian Assange attitude as well or Chelsea Manning slam. The Grayzone channel covered this story well and they have Canuck Aaron Mate who is award winning journalist.
Exactly J.J. is a propagandists boot licker.
Our governments are putting us all at risk, and he thinks a few soldiers Illegally on the ground in Ukraine should be protected Rather than ALL OUR Lives.
Jack wasn't whistleblowing because whistleblowing means actually standing up to a regime and publishing documents for the express purpose of calling out something the government was doing wrong. Chelsea Manning blew the whistle on war crimes. Edward Snowden blew the whistle on the NSA's panopticon. Jack just shared these docs for clout. There was no noble motive behind it. It's that simple.
Loose lips sink ships is morbidly relevant and saddening here.
Hearing JJ swear is like hearing your dad go quiet, itâs scary
I know right? It really struck me
Itâs very strange. Almost seems a little drunk.
He is right. Watch Tucker's segment. Its rage inducing that he would celebrate this filth who put our servicemen, innocent civilians, and our countries national security at risk because he wanted some attention from some nobodys.
my dadâs quiet anyway, but i get what you mean
@@TheLurker1647 I guess he does a good job composing himself if swearing while being upset makes someone think hes drunk
I think you hit the nail on the head, most people born post 98 won't take anything a 50+ year old says as constructive advice. But when it comes to people in their 30s or 40s, they understand the internet enough to bridge that generational gap. Our generation has been missing the same mentorship that people older than us had, because our entire lives have revolved around the internet.
I mean even now you got this dude thinking "Thug Shaker Central" was some racist meme, and that Jack Texeira did it for any reason other than clout and ego.
Its scary because Gen Z has more information than ever before but they might be the *dumbest* generation *ever* in terms of critical thinking and long-term strategic planning.
As someone born in â99 but fortunate enough to go to a great school, the aggressive/arrogant ignorance Gen Z wears like a badge online is truly terrifying.
How can a group of young people simultaneously be too scared to drive cars on the highway, yet extremely opinionated about geopolitics like they have any coherent perspective on human nature.
@@orthopedix6202 do process? Do what?
Is that true? I think some young people want to be challenged. Would you be bold enough to say most?
@@josiaholfert412 hes totally right. A lot of gen z doesnt even want to learn to drive. This is a generation locked in their comfort zone.
I'm 25, and for the past 3 years, I've been very involved with my church'd youth group- mostly the middle schoolers. Sometimes, it's boring, and sometimes, it's good, but, every once in a while, I get to stomp out some real dangerous thoughts. A kid and I a few months ago had an earnest discussion about Andrew Tate and the role of women in society. I knew he didn't agree with me immediately, but I also know that I was the only person challenging him while still treating him like an adult. I have faith that in the future, whether it's this year or in 5, he'll tone down his rhetoric.
The kids are not okay, man. They need peace and understanding in a world that doesn't want to give it to them.
Absolutely. Thank you.
@@themore-you-know Yeah that's the same sentiment I felt reading his comment. He talks about stamping out dangerous ideas when the things that make those ideas compelling, the general contempt men, particularly white men receive from the state and society is still a major part of the narrative espoused by a large and influential segment of the American elite during a time of increasing despair for all Americans. It seems that this young man will gain nothing but disadvantage if he takes your advice seriously. It's all deeply sad.
@@themore-you-know
1.
The guy seems like a good role model to me. He clearly isn't forcing his beliefs on the child (easily understandable by how he is more focused on the long term (up to 5 years). Thinking for yourself and changing your mind (rather than receiving your information from an internet cultist) takes a while.
2.
I highly doubt you (or 99% of these "anti-feminists") have ever read any books on feminism or even done as little as even just gone through feminist forums online. Most of you just hear things being said by Andrew, and believe them without verifying the information with actual experience (especially Andrew Tate, who said "Reading books is for losers who are afraid to learn from life" (the tweet is still up on twitter) , and consistently talks out his ass, providing little to no evidence for what he says. In one video, he said that "toxic masculinity ).
Feminism is a complex, and to portray it as just a "key contributor of the upcoming demographic collapse" instead of a large ideology with different branches is inaccurate.
The demographic collapse is a result of feminism? Isn't that a result of two working people not being able to afford having a child? The fact that one parent working used to be able to feed a family and can't anymore isn't a problem with feminism, but the broken, inefficient economic system that promotes useless jobs for the sake of there being jobs (and do note that I am not a Marxist. I do not believe this to be an inherent flaw of capitalism, but of the bastardized capitalism we have today).
Hook-up culture? Radical feminism, which fits opposes promiscuity and porn (this was the cause of the "porn wars", which were debates over, well, pornography.
Feminism has greatly improved the lives of women by the way. Women's suffrage, marital rape being made illegal, and no-fault divorce, are all results of feminism. "Anti-feminism" has only made things worse with abortion and increased sexism whilst not addressing any of the actual problems.
@@bricksabrar, at best, you are presenting a hypothesis when you state "feminism has greatly improved the lives of women". Which, in science, would then need to be backed up with evidence: empirical data collection, or mathematical models.
Can you, in your ideological absorption, at least agree on the above?
Because so far, all of which you seem to ground yourself upon are biblical-like texts, as proposed by your first paragraph:
" I highly doubt you (or 99% of these "anti-feminists") have ever read any books on feminism or even done as little as even just gone through feminist forums online."
How is that different than the following?
"I highly doubt you (or 99% of these "atheists") have ever read any bibles or even done as little as even just gone through Christian forums online."
Face it: feminism is a religion which, like nearly all other religions, cannot survive exposition to empirical data and mathematical modeling.
@@themore-you-know Don't you have some classified documents to leak in a discord server somewhere to impress your fellow incels?
For me it really shows how upset jj is because I have never heard him swear
In the most Canadian way too
Honestly Canadians swear just as much as Americans despite the stereotypes of both nationalitiesâ friendliness. Same, I donât normally hear JJ curse unless itâs censored or more mild or moderate. Itâs not appropriate for kids, so it makes sense that most watching JJâs videos are 18- to 24-year-old young adults like me who graduated high school back around the late 2010s or early 2020s. (I am 24 and love JJâs videos (I graduated high school in late May 2017; I was born in October of 1998), but canât believe that JJ, for being so stereotypically Canadian but also against anti-Americanism, has started swearing more and more.) I hope this video is kinda age-restricted just because I donât want kids under 18 who are still in school or living at home to be listening to this stuff. Itâs not appropriate especially for many Christians, Jews, and Muslims who arenât adults or who think swearing is a sin. (Yes, some Christians and some Muslims believe that swearing is a sin.) And before you ask, I know, JJ hates Wikipedia and never uses it. That did come from a Wikipedia article on swearing just because Wikipedia is everywhere. Itâs impossible to avoid it, even though I still hate it, yet still use it unlike JJ. For some lame BS reason, my mom thinks itâs scientific (she works in nursing leadership and management at ThedaCare). I have to admit, though, in many cases she is right even though I still hate seeming to have to rely on it. Why are other information websites way out on the internet where hardly anyone will ever discover it? That boggles my mind âcause there are so many great websites giving a lot of great info to know. (Yes, cool people call information âinfoâ and have since the â90s when email was starting to become well established into the culture of modern technology used by just about everyone these days.)
Everyone gangster until jj sits on the chair instead of the exercise ball
â@@robertjames6890I thought that CZcams would just automatically age-restrict videos that they find inappropriate for people under 18 (not that I think this video fits CZcams's criteria). If there is a manual option then I had no idea. Also when I was younger and didn't like listening to swear words, I would just simply turn the video off because it would make me uncomfortable but I guess not every child with very concerned parents has the same thought process.
He does curse
Seeing JJ swear for the first time hits different. Man is like PBS level family friendly
It feels like he broke character, almost scary, but it just shows how rightfully pissed he is
Seeing Canadians show any emotion is always interesting
For real tho, it really hit me like â damn heâs seriousâ
He read an email once that says "bullshit" on it. It's not that big of a deal.
@@conserva-chan2735 I know because all Canadians are unfeeling, emotionless robots with our programming dial set to "polite' right?
I think a lot of this cultural issue goes back to how men are seen around kids. I internalized the idea that after I turned 18, I needed to stay far away from kids to avoid some crazy soccer mom accusing me of being a predator. If this idea is as common as I think it is, it could explain why there is such a breakdown of older men mentoring younger men. I never really thought about it before, and I suspect many people haven't, cuz I really can't answer how I expected anyone to grow up. I wasnt really embraced by my family so I learned from TV, peers and the internet.... And got lucky, I guess. I suppose the bad actors have learned to weaponize the Internet now far better than they could in the late 90s and early 2000s
Yeah. Fatherless behaviour basically. No better word to describe it.
Glad I ain't the only one bruh. I just turned 18 and holy shit subconsciously I keep thinking I gotta stay away from anyone younger than me or else.
I think a positive way to engage with young people as an adult man would be to volunteer at mentoring programs as a mentor perhaps? That way, there is at least an acknowledgement between the young person, their family, and the program that you will be interacting with them.
Itâs very important for boys to be around other boys and adult men of different ages, not just their own age group. It helps them to form a clearer mental map of what the transition from boyhood to manhood looks like, and learn how to engage with the world in a reasonable, respectful, and productive way as they get older. But adults must also show investment in boysâ social-emotional development as well.
J.J. thank you for an exceptional, articulate, and perceptive essay on this difficult and disturbing topic. Your knowledge and effort are appreciated.
Thank you for your kindness!
@@JJMcCulloughlol your just mad because your little csis handlers gave you more work
â@No_guard_X what do these words even mean? I'm genuinely curious. Csis? What?
@@fiendishghoul1649 Csis has two meanings,
one Csis is the canadian version of the CIA, two its the center for strategic international studies.
its already suspected he is funded by the latter, but as a ironic twist, he might just be funded by the other as well.
@@NeostormXLMAX Why would the Canadian CIA fund JJ?
Iâve always thought it was interesting how easy it is to get a security clearance at 18. Simply because you havenât enough time to create obvious red flags.
It's hard also because a volunteer army usually suffers attrition in peace (often a good thing). But armies need to run whether in peace or not. And often, certain oversights can be allowed when available manpower is so tight. Not saying that's what happened but I have seen certain rules be relaxed because of desperation before!
The average age of most battalions (700 or so people) is 23. Active duty military (reserve units tend to skew a little older) units are overwhelmingly young men. This is why the military tends to have so many problems of misogyny, casual racism, and now incidents like this. I spent 20 years in the Navy, and as you slot up into a leadership role, it's 80% about babysitting kids that are doing dumb shit, while also trusting them with weapons, and tech, and secrets. It's a weird climate.
Showing my age here, but I'm reminded of "Doogie Howser MD" and why the premise of that show was so _dumb._
It doesn't matter how technically competent a kid is, the emotional maturity required to perform as an adult only comes with time. Jack was _far_ too young to be doing what he was doing. And BTW, I know they do intelligence testing on recruits, but they obviously aren't screening with tests like the MMPI for psychopathology.
Funny seeing geography geek here
Very good pointâŠ
Some advice that helps me: if youâre young, in university, and are struggling to find relationships and wisdom from older generations just ask your professors what theyâre studying. Theyâll almost always be happy to share and if youâre interested in the field then you might have a future connection if you continue on to study it
They'll be happy to share communism with you. All college professors are naive ideologue communists who think they are serving a revolution, but are actually fighting for total control by big capital.
yeah a lot of these people getting turbo radicalized are in university or are that age range & advisors are also really good figures to turn to. Im sure this jack kid even had some older people around him wherever he was that he couldâve turned to as a mentor
Yoooo! h0ser is in here!
This implies professors themselves don't play an intimate role in youth radicalization
Awe yeah H0ser is getting in on the Canadian CZcamsr convo
I legitimately cringe when I think about some of the groups I interacted with online when I was 14-15. I remember I was drawn to those groups because it gave me a sense of belonging and I felt like I could share my opinions more freely there. Looking back I said so much dumb shit I'm legitimately ashamed of. Luckily AP World History kept me so busy in High School that I left those groups and never looked back lol
So u want to live in a world where you aren't free don't discuss anything ? Question the narrative and pretend the world is perfect and no government or poltian isbisbad ? Really ? WATERGATE HAPPEND REMEBER that
I have the sam experience just that I grew out of it and the deeper I got the wierder and more sketchy the people became
ap world saves lives
I think another big factor to do with young people not having friends who are significantly older and wiser than them is relatability.
In my experience a lot of my mates who are around my age (19 - 21) have this mentality that older people are disconnected from them and, as the video said, condescending. Personally I think this has largely to do with the adults in their life failing them (for example, one of my closest friends grew up without a father, and another grew up with both of his parents being abusive alcoholics), and therefore they've developed a sort of mistrust of 'authority figures'.
A lot of people my age have sort of been 'raised by the internet' (as I've heard it put), in that we have all the information of the world at our fingertips at a moments notice, so why would we need to learn from these stuffy old boomers? But there is a difference between knowledge and wisdom that I feel like is lost on a lot of younger people these days.
As an 18 year old that uses discord way too frequently, I can say that degenerate servers are wayyy too common, and radicalization is just a norm on discord... It's hard for me to find anyone normal online anymore
Scary stuff
They never have political views informed by their own life experiences
@@williamthebonquerer9181 and if they do it's always the most toxic and insidious view of the situation which they take to vilify entire swathes of people.
I agree. There is no moderates or sensibility on Discord. Every server is basically it's own echo chamber of views that eventually radicalizes itself and kicks anything that goes against it.
Jack did nothing wrong
I think it isnt even just a "young people" problem -- we see lots of "old people" being just as conspiratorial in their own right. I wonder if it is a problem of societal isolation, and how we can prevent that at all levels.
I sort of get what JJ is saying, but as someone in his late 50s, I think we will always - and should - have teenage rebellion. In the 70s we had punk, and that was considered to be the ultimate descent. Then in the 90s we had raves, another threat to society. Do we really want to go back to some sanitised society where nothing ever changes?
I have no problem that this guy thought he was some leader of a rebellion against 'the man'. But what went wrong was giving him access to classified documents. It's his superiors who should be up before the beak, not him.
@@rogink Say again how a musical subculture is comparable to committing an obvious crime with international geopolitical ramifications
@@oldvlognewtricks Plenty of musical subcultures have schizophrenic political wings.
@@rangergxi So then they are not comparable to committing a literal crime - thanks for confirming.
@@oldvlognewtricks thats not the point. the entire subculture wasnt the one committing the crime, only jack did, and he is connected to the subculture, much like the political wings of previous subcultures.
I went back to school a few years on the GI Bill when I was around 30 and what you are saying is true. There are a lot of young people without mentors. I did my best to try and help. I Got invited to multiple dorm parties and was pretty much put into the position of being a life coach. It always made me feel weird and good to have someone that barely knew me excited to tell me about how their interview went. It made me think "wow, no one really cares about these kids".
A little bit of effort can go a long way and what a lot of these kids really want is someone to listen to them and give basic guidance like "yes, I think you should apply for that job, yes you should ask that girl out and yes you should be taking interest in useful skills."
I think the biggest issue with what this story shows is how there is a very bad culture of male role models in the social media era. There's also been a pipeline developing over the 2010s of that links video game culture to political culture. I was in this pipeline.
I remember from 4th grade to 7th grade, I would get home from school and watch Skydoesminecraft every single day. This was before CZcams was massively monetized: it was edgy, anti-establishment, and somewhat of a counter-culture. It was stuff I loved to watch but my parents absolutely hated. Sky was my equivalent of Jack in the sense that he was a role model for a lonely kid. He had defied all the odds of having a bad (or lame) life and just got to make money, fame, and success of playing video games. It was something I could come to as a pre-teen and laugh at and feel like I had found someone I could look up to.
As time moved on and my social skills started to develop, I stopped watching him and largely got off of Minecraft and video games as a whole. I'm about to turn 20 now, and I remember seeing all these videos released about all the horrific allegations towards Sky. Gaslighting, falling out with friends, defending pedophiles, and a whole bunch of stuff that made me wonder how a guy who played Minecraft (just like I did as a kid) could do some seriously evil stuff. That sad part is, these were all known secrets when I was a kid and the fanbase simply separated Sky as a person from all the incidents that occured, leaving him blameless.
I think after 2016 (a year after I stopped watching Sky) political extremities became a new edgy counter-culture for young men to engage in. I remember going on reddit on things like r/politicalcompassmemes. Some of it was funny, but a lot of it was just alt-left or alt-right grifters ("anti-war" as JJ says) who manipulate kids into some dangerous ideologies and views.
This is where Jack comes into play. Jack is just another iteration of Sky: a sad, lonely person who's angry at the world and takes it out of people who are close to them. Their fanbase gives them legitimacy and because they are young kids, often don't understand the gravity of what is happening until in retrospect. The videogame culture I was in was largely apolitical but now has been merged with alt-political culture and has caused a huge amount of radicalization through social media.
We need to give young, mostly white, working-class, men, better role models outside of the social media realm, because the ones that are there are just as miserable as the kids who hop on Discord are. They just happen to be louder.
(P.S. this is not to take away from the importance of women, LGBT, or minority issues. I am simply trying to highlight a growing problem, as a straight white male, that is happening and largely going unnoticed)
Your last paragraphs say it all. These people are privileged in all bar one way. They are working class. They need to make the choice whether they are going to fight against minorities or against Capital.
Unfortunately turns out Capital is a lot more powerful and influential than the minorities despite the conspiracy theories stating otherwise.
you are so woke and your opinion most definitely doesn't matter lol.
I don't think you can give people role models, especially when they're choosing it from online personalities.
I'd say the US has issues with role models overall. Not white specific.
But when it comes to streamers or whatever's there's nothing we can do because they're choosing it.
Kindly gtfo. We donât want your condescending âhelp.â
@@Jay_Johnson 300% Congressional representation
You know things are getting bad when JJ McCullough is swearing in a video
My thoughts when I heard him swear: âI have no Knowledge of any of this⊠this is so⊠bizarre!
I know right. JJ got pissed off at me the other day for a comment I made and now i'm ashamed
@@rexjolles What could you have said?
@@rexjolles what was the video?
@@jeremiahtriplett6271 I said the alabama flag wasn't that bad (because I didn't read the full comment that said that it WAS based off the stars n bars) and he said "who are you?" so I assume that was sarcastic
The point about younger people needing older voices to talk to really struck me in an emotional place. 5 or 6 years ago when I graduated highschool I DESPERATELY needed an adult figure to help me rationalize my understanding of the world, and in a vacuum of that sort of mentorship, I very much turned to the internet to gain some kind of understanding. I'm very thankful I didn't fall into the same sort of chaotic pit that Jack seems to have. I was definitely delving into, and taking advice in communities that were far too close, and far too adjacent to those chaotic pits.
As a young person I very much needed mentorship, and it sadly wasn't there for either me OR a lot of my friends
Agree. The internet and the algorithm pushes for outrage. When I was in high school I was depressed and would've likely fallen for the Sigma Grind, Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson manosphere. There needs to be better guard-rails to prevent such hateful content, especially for kids that are the majority that consumes this content
We are very lucky to live in the age of the internet but itâs important not to get too drowned
This was me, too. And Now I am like JJ.
Agreed.
The modern world seems to be pushing Young men into extremism due to building resentment towards current political culture that blames them for the worlds problems.
Okay being former military I can't entirely blame the stupid kid. The military has been screwing up a lot lately so this was just another one of those days where they decided to do something stupid by giving a 21-year-old access two top secret information. Our military has gotten lazy and degenerated that's allowed so many bad things to happen lately and what happened with this kid is just another one. But yeah don't be like this idiot Jack.
Distracting from the information revealed.
I love all of your videos, but this one was particularly profound. Thanks for your insight, JJ
as a 21 year old kid who is going into teaching, i can assure you that the types of role models chronically online kids have is horrific and terrifying.
The internet, discord specifically, is ripe for radicalization. Young, impressionable minds who have been raised to idolize a cult of personality.
Yeah, theyre lanky nerdy kids. But a body is a body, and a body can be compelled to do great and terrible things!
Waah big deal. I was mentored by good men like Jack and came out great.
@@hongo3870 I think your view of the types of people who are perpetually online is little out of date.
The number of kids that actually liked (or continue to like) Andrew Tate is honestly horrifying
How many male role models are present at the school you teach at? Beware of being part of the problem.
Basically, this Jack is like that young adult that approaches a bunch of kids and ask them if they wanna see a dead body.
Depending on what the documents are, probably literally. Heck, the big fear is that those documents might lead to people dying.
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â@@flipmaya I would say certainly has or will lead to death. There was some serious stuff about the Ukraine war in there. And documents from as recently as March
@@flipmaya apparently thereâs information about spies that was released, so some may actually be at risk
Yeah, if by âdead bodyâ you mean âevidence that the US security state is trying to start a war for no reasonâ
I actually read a great book on this subject: Hold on to your kids by Gordon Neufeld (he's canadian too!). In the book they refer to the phenomenon you describe as peer orientation. The point made by the book is that western culture, especially north american culture, has lost the attachment between adults and children. This causes children (and teenagers and even perhaps young adults) to turn to each other in order to fulfill their attachment needs, prioritizing the relationship with their friend group over the one with their parents (or other mature figures). This creates an environment where the culture and values shared by these young people can become more extreme, violent and separate from the rest of society, where relationships are shallow and insecure (furthering isolation), where no real voice of reason can be reached. This phenomenon is only amplified through the internet and is becoming genuinely worrying. I very much recommend you read the book if you want to dive deeper into this subject. I found it very pleasant to read for a psychology book.
On a more personal note, I'm myself a 19 year old and I would really like to find a sort of mentor figure in my life. When you're my age and you are thrown into adulthood, experimenting with your first serious relationships, choosing an education or career, moving out and getting your own place it can all feel very overwhelming. My idea of who I am, how the world works and my place in it are changing all the time and to be honest that's just really scary and confusing. The yearning certainty and stability is very strong and I feel that talking to someone who understands what it's like to go through that, who genuinely listens, cares and acts as a grounding force is just the thing many young people like me need. Unfortunately those relationships are (I find) hard to find, especially in a society that's steering towards more isolation. This is what I'm missing. This is what Jack was missing. When we can't have a solid person to help us orient ourselves, we will look for something that gives us meaning, and we are just too inexperienced to accurately judge the real value of that source of meaning. This is how young, alienated people fall into Qanon and the like. It creates meaning, an orientation to follow, and a sense of how the world is.
Hold on to your kids. Iâll remember this book title.
I knew someone like Jack. Heavily involved in the military, but also prone to "edgy" jokes. The thing is, that individual knew the jokes and the military didn't mix, and he made it clear enough that his acquaintances at school knew that.
I'm 24 now. Your videos, ideas and thoughts have shaped me all across my adolescence and into my adult life. It's sometimes scary to see how much role models like yourself have impacted my worldview and approach to life. There are so many bad influencers and ideologies shared online that could have messed me up during those key development years. I'm am simply so grateful that it was "you" and others in this space took that role in my upbringing. Thank you!
P.S and yes it's your fault I still sleep in my clothes đ
Your words mean so much to me
@@JJMcCullough heâs for sure not alone for a pretty big range of ages.
Thanks King McKay, we need more thoughtful people
@@texanarchy666 yeah leading to people's death because I want to maintain superiority over my friends is definately wrong
â@JZTechEngineering when people name themselves "Texanarchy666" you know they're already too far down the rabbit hole. I can't think of a username that screams adolescent impotent anger at the world more than that. Anything we say will fall on deaf ears.
Don't be a nihilistic weenie who gets off on not taking things seriously. Things matter. I have a Ukrainian co-worker about Jack's age, and I'm trying to look out for him. Hearing him talk about explosions waking up his parents is really sobering. It underscores how serious and how not hypothetical geopolitics are.
I know there's a case to be made that democracies shouldn't have certain sorts of secrets, but this wasn't that. This was someone leaking classified information like it was a video game trailer.
This is true. Some things are secret to protect the interests of the state. Other things are kept secret to protect the well being of those who serve under the state.
"THIS SUMMER...!"
Yea, no. I don't care about a foreign country, I care about my country not keeping me in the dark when they use my money to fund their little proxy war. Any leaker, at any time, is always justified, period.
@@joshuacampbell1625 The interests of the state are inherently evil and always deserve to be exposed.
@@massimo4307 Not being nuclear bombed is in the interest of the state. It is also in the interest of those living in the country of said state.
Man thanks for the video jj, how you handled this gives me a whole new lvl of respect.
I was also struck by how young Jack is and looked, and how young he threw away his life and career to be honest. I never even thought about his effect on those in his discord community. I had no clue the extent to which he was a mentor figure for them either. Thank you for the video. Like everyone else said, it has struck true with me.
Iâm age forty and it just boggles my mind that this kid who compromised global security was born around 9/11 - when I was nineteen. No person that age should have been anywhere near this classified info, let alone anybody working on domestic airspace defense.
Exactly, how do you do a security clearance background check on someone who hasn't even been alive long enough to develop a background
Who is the nitwit that gave him access to the information with this much importance? The need a shorter leash.
Jack's story is yet more proof that the "global conspiracy" doesn't exist.
Our government is far too incompetent to be puppeteering the world.
Shouldn't 19 year olds be allowed to take part in the digital part of a war or should 19 year olds only be allowed to fight?
Or not allowed to take part in war at all? What are you saying?
It's really hard to comprehend if you haven't seen it, but the military really does rely on people that age to do literally everything and it could not function without that being the case. People his age literally do everything, and they have to. You can be a fighter pilot at 24, and it only takes that long because of the training required.
From my experience in the military, with the exception of 17 year olds who really are that annoying, age is just about irrelevant.
Thank you. This needed to be said. Especially the "behooves" part.
Never heard JJ swear. It gives the video this pretty tense feeling. Great job
I think you've hit the nail on the head. Over the last 4 years, my acidental friendship with a 34-year-old female project engineer has given me a kind of perspective that I never had before meeting her at the age of 20. It's crazy how much your worldview changes when you can have those kind of friendships.
Good for you
Can I ask how you met? I think having more adults in my life who can offer me advice would benefit me but I'm not really sure how to go about that.
In september last year I started getting involved in local politics here in the UK, I've become particularly friendly with a few older councillors who have taught me so much. I'm standing for local council this year and I'm truly learning what it means to be an adult, such an amazing feeling
I never post but this is important. It's really not difficult, need to ACTIVELY look out for young people to mentor. Everyone can be a teacher, not just theoretically, and it's our responsibility to do so! Thank you JJ for such an important, passionate message.
love how genuine and straight forward this video is
As a highschool dropout I had no mentor figures in my life for a while, and no friends either. My social circle was 4chan and other unsavory parts of the internet. It took me nearly a decade to unlearn the toxic worldview I developed from those places, and I still struggle not to fall down that rabbit hole at times. Reconnecting with my middle school science teacher and being taken under her wing for a little bit saved my life honestly. Thanks to her I have a car, a job and a level of empathy and understanding about the world I didn't before. All it takes is one person to provide a little direction and support to save these lost kids from falling off the radar. I hope I can pay her kindness forward one day.
@@bloodrain1776 4chan doesn't have the truth lmao.
@@bloodrain1776 whats your point
I'm happy that you got out of that situation, I used to be in a similar situation but somehow I clawed my way out. Its very hard to get out of those circles and mindsets and I hope other people see this post.
@@bloodrain1776 Lol nigga showing the exact NPC behavior đ
@@bloodrain1776 what does that mean
Iâm 29. I met my friend Dave during my early 20s. He was in his early 30s at the time, and had come back to university to follow his dream of studying science. We became close friends, and remains so to this day; and our relationship at the time could definitely be described (as you say) playfully adversarial cross-generational. I definitely got a lot out of the friendship, and so did he. It helped to mature my mindset, especially socially.
In many way, our friendship has made me more rebellious against the norms of our society; but not in the unproductive way defined purely by ignorant and rebellious youthful impulses, instead rather one in which I see reality in a more sincere light, and can now define myself better as an individual worth being.
This feels like when the nice teacher gets angry for the first time
Yeah
As someone around Jack's age, and who grew up extremely online I find the story very tragic and surreal. I think an intersection between the internet's culture of unaccountability and my generation's outlook on the world has created a situation of nihilistic immaturity. It feels like all problems are either already solved or inherently out of reach, so there's a lack of required personal responsibility.
nihilistic immaturity is a great term for it
Feel the same way
Yeah you sum it up quite well. I would also add that many online communities tend to be absurdly arrogant when it comes to political opinions, so I think that fosters this nihilistic kinda crap that Jack did. They just trend into whatever fringe beliefs sound the most radical and self-elevating while rejecting any nuance
Really well put. As someone who diverged from the subculture some time ago, and is also as young as Jack, it is surreal to see this philosophy play out in real time. Profoundly put.
@@treyshaffer True its really somewhat disturbing how fanatical and nihilistic these kids are at the same time. No matter if we speak about manosphere adherants, woke feminists, Trans activists, Trump fans or any other politcial group they are simultaniasly so sure that they have all the solutions to our societys problem but also are so depressed, lonely and desperate that they think everything is crumbling and dying around them. No matter in which political sphere I go these people dominate almost every discourse and make discussions utterly useless and toxic.
As someone who had an older adult mentor I couldn't recommend it enough. Unfortunately I feel like society has done away with this entirely. The fear that any adult man that is interacting with teens is some sort of pervert has become ingrained in our society and in some cases has even become more extreme. This phenomenon is deeply saddening because I feel that there would be many fewer teens, particularly boys, making such devastatingly bad decisions and being just generally lost in this new technological age.
Really that should be the role of the father. Too many broken homes now producing aimless men with no healthy male role models.
@@sdrawkcabUK ideally fathers would be doing more, but we don't always listen to our parents. It's easy to say "you don't know what it's like now" and it can be hard to invision our parents at a younger age having gone through anything similar to us. This generation in particular considering that the internet and how it influences society and the ways we interact is pretty foreign to their parents.
Communities are indeed still important.
@@sdrawkcabUK I think thatâs risky. I mean, still better than no one, but risky to put everything on your dad. Youâd be better served by having both. But imagine how bad it could be to have a single end-all role figure. How much abusable power do you want to give to a single figure (who already has so much)?
@@sdrawkcabUK It's not just broken homes, it's parents in general having less time for their kids. I was the son of immigrant parents so maybe that has an impact as well, but I feel like people nowadays tend to work longer hours because inflation has gone up and wages have stagnated, the difference is made up in hours worked. This means less time at home with your kids and that has to have some kind of an affect on them. I know that there are some cases where kids act out, simply because they're desperate for attention from their parents and were raised in a disciplinarian environment in which the only time the parents really stopped to talk to them was when they were telling them off for misbehaving.
Overall I think the atomization of society, the reduction in friendships and community (AKA the loneliness epidemic) as well as the impact of less control over our own time are all issues that society will need to grapple with. Compounding all of this is of course the ease with which the internet enables unhealthy echo chambers to form and/or misinformation to spread. It's created an environment where there are so many takes floating around on the same events or issues that partisanship is growing and peoples' trust in the news - a vital democratic institution - as weakened. The fact that fringe lunatics who push conspiracy theories and dangerous, accelerationist rhetoric can be elected into a powerful lawmaking institution is a terrifying sign of the kinds of challenges confronting democracy at the moment. JJ brought up his frustration with those kids having these incredibly misguided and incorrect thoughts about how it's simply no big deal to leak classified information (by a kid who was doing it for clout rather than as a conscientious whistleblower), and the fact that idiots like Margorie-Taylor Greene were basically egging them on, and I agree. That is the worst part, that these absolutely awful role-models are so readily accessible to people through the internet, while adults in their own lives are often more distant or hard to reach.
man i didnt think it would be as suprising to hear someone just be genuinly normal and level headed about this stuff. You should really make more videos like this its something that the internet would benefit from.
I don't like calling 21 year olds "kids", especially ones trained in the military. If they're truly kids, why are we trusting so many kids to fight our wars?
A bullet from a 10 year old is just as effective as the one from 21 year old.
Right question, wrong perspective. You're right, kids should not be fighting wars. Kids should not be able to sign years of their life away to military service.
21 year olds are ABSOLUTELY kids. Speaking as a 23 year old, who is also Not Really An Adult despite having a job and paying taxes and voting and stepping up to take care of her family and community.
"Adults" who can drive and vote and enlist and drink and smoke are absolutely not actually grown-up. They're just not. I should know, that's my social circle. We do all right, but we're still so so young.
If there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that when the person who always smiles gets angry, they have a great reason to be. I think you dismissing your calm told this story in a way that couldn't have had the same effect if you made this video like your others. This is one of those things you only pull out once in a while to make a very important lesson stick with your audience. Nicely done.
Lmao jj is literally defending the cia and nsa spying on citizens. A literal fucking shill
I'm a youth pastor and the way that you dissected this story has honestly touched my heart so deeply. Thank you for pointing out the lack of support that is given to young people, that puts them in the place of being in the space of the blind leading the blind. Thanks JJ. Also, I really want to encourage that anyone who has a little bit of time in their lives to give a bit of time to any local youth work that is happening in your areas - the impact you can have is honestly transformational.
I mean, sighted people can lead the blind to lots of horrible places. Young people are just that more exploitable. You as a youth pastor should be aware of how easy it is abusing and manipulating the youth more than most. There gotta be guidelines and rules to avoid that right?
Please keep in mind, it's all over the Bible, exposing government crimes is a good thing. "the truth will set you free".
It's one thing to see that young men get help, but if this exposure happened amongst friends who met in real life, it would still be good that the info was exposed.
Please keep in mind, it's all over the Bible, exposing government crimes is a good thing. "the truth will set you free".
It's one thing to see that young men get help, but if this exposure happened amongst friends who met in real life, it would still be good that the info was exposed.
@@yucol5661 The rules and guidelines of a youth pastor fall upon local government, larger church practice, local church practice, and finally the most important safety rail is the volunteers and parents. Most churches have forceful, recurring background checks, and most services are recorded.
This can't really apply to other parts of life, except for school I guess, but the important thing to ask is "what's missing?"
What's missing for kids today that wasn't before is local, face to face community. Even church youth groups only meet once a week, usually, and they're structured by adults. This is not the same as organic "hanging out" which kids used to have. This also means that these kids, even when they do meet up, usually don't have responsibilities attached to the group.
Kids "flake" very often nowadays, if a group of teenage friends want to hang out, you could swear that they were all 30 with kids, the amount of excuses they come up with.
So what's the answer? There's no easy one, but an idea I've had is to have parents conspire to have their kids hang out, until groups form and they want to hang out naturally, and in ways that the kids set up themselves. This must be structured with limited access to the internet. This face to face friend group hangout builds a sense of duty after a while, like "If I don't meet up with my friends, they'll be so upset!" Or "If I do X then my friends will all disown me!"
In essence, this is what has been lost, a sense of connection which breeds a sense of duty. You do not see this sense of duty in online relationships, for whatever reason.
Stop babying him. He was 21 in the military. Anyone in the miltary knows how sacred classified info is. He knew full what he was doing was wrong.
This is literally one of my favourite videos of yours, for how refreshing, genuine and cathartic it is
Yeah, my man betraying his past opinions because the kid who did this is supposedly edgy and making up verifiably false facts about the group and the leaker all while saying "Ehrm it's bad he did this because uh uh it's immature and he only did it to seem cool!" when the kid literally exposed the fact the media and major political figures have been lying to us about the state of the Russo-Ukrainian war.
As a new Dad, the kind of world my child is growing up in is something Iâve thought a lot about. I think your point about the Tucker Carlsons of the world immediately turning these events into a talking point is a particularly important one.
It seems to me that sincerity and earnestness are less prominent traits than they really ought to be. So much of what we say or do online is drenched in irony, or is âjust a memeâ, to the point that I think we easily lose sight of the fact that our words and actions have meaning and consequence. An event like this happens, and rather than taking it in and considering the implications, we just start thinking about how we can shove it into our pre-existing worldview. In this case, rather than see the larger pattern of how online communities and isolation can harm young people, we just decide that we can spin it into another argument against a politician we donât like. An argument already believed, and were going to make anyway. We donât treat them as a group of kids who were failed - theyâre just a point we can try to score by blaming it on people we donât like. Be about what youâre about, and seek wisdom and reason over short-term validation.
I think this message has particular impact coming from you. Seeing how distraught this has made the measured and calm JJ that we all know and love really brings this home. Excellent video, sir.
It's the parents' fault. Well adjusted people don't even like the look of Tucker Carlson. He looks like a tick who's about to pop. And it's pretty well established that racists on the level of the young men in said discord server are nothing but losers. I mean, Jack may have had a promising career but being a loser was more important to him. Moral of the story, if you raise your kid properly this won't happen.
Worst part about what he did is that now heâs getting lumped in with people like Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. They leaked to the press on legal and moral grounds. Jack did it on a meme server for shits and giggles.
Heâs being treated the same way as they were because itâs the same thing
Based.
ââ@@anglodoomer5995 This lmao. It's literally the same thing as when Bradley Manning leaked info with the only difference being the war the info is about
Moral? Perhaps. Legal? In which country?
Lmao "it would have been ok if he had leaked it to the press" God you sound like a tool. BTW that same "press" was happy to cover up all these leaks because it makes their guy in the White House look bad, unlike those leaks about Orange Man being a russian agent whose source was literally some FBI guy making it up.
As a 20 year old man who has been in these kinds of circles...you have hit the nail on the head. Something is seriously warped going on amongst the GenZ's now hitting young adulthood.
Zoomers have the potential to learn from their mistakes and raise their children with a wider, clearer understanding of the world, or create another generation of conspiratorial and hyper-radicalized Jack Teixeiras. I hope we end up fostering the former.
Theyre the Lost Boys
Same Iâve been immersed in these circles my entire life.
Honestly it's insane how many Gen Zers out there are just like Jack -- chronically online, nihilistic, self-important, reckless, isolated and seeking validating. As wild as it may sound, I think there's a thread of similarity between what he did and what happens in the minds of school shooters
Oh, I guess Iâll be that guy.
1. Single Parent house holds.
2. Media pushing anti-male or anti-white agendas.
3. The consequences of sexual liberation and feminism.
4. The consequences of mass migration.
5. Wars are started for obscured reasons just to end when they stop being poplar.
6. Citizen journalists and small news exposing the corporate fake news industry.
7. The increase of distrust in the government or Alphabet Agencies because of their proven lies.
8. The rise in echo chambers which result in heightened partisanship.
9. Colleges focusing more on indoctrination rather than intellectual discussion.
I could go on, anyone want to add anything else?
Thank you so much for making this video J.J. As a person in their mid twenties, I try to acquire as much knowledge from wherever I can, including from you.
This was great JJ. Simple, honest commentary.
I feel like there have always been unsupervised kids with warped understandings of the world that do awful things and believe in nutty things, but the internet amplifies the amount of damage they can do. Kids in the 70s and 80s famously would stay out of home without a cellphone only with the rule "be back by sundown" but the difference is their scope of damage is maybe taking drugs in the woods. The thing that I think would prevent more Jacks in the future is not abandoning your friends if they begin descending into that sort of mindset. Adult or government role models can be scoffed off but a mutual friend could potentially reach out and help more effectively.
Which government role models would you recommend? The ones who signed off on Iraq? The ones funding the Israeli apartheid state? Tell me, Prussian hat man. Is Wilhelm a good advisor in your eyes?
I think one side effect of family sizes shrinking is the growing lack of mentors in that +10-20 year bracket. My aunt is 9 years older than me - I think itâs certainly helpful to have someone whoâs not quite as old as oneâs parents, but still old enough to have life experiences to learn from.
yeah it's definitely true. Older ages for starting families mean you often get a dad who has chained himself in a room with one or two millstones that grind him down, day after day, the office and/or the marriage, and by the time his children are at an age to receive any wisdom from him, the cultural gap is too wide between the generations and he is too tired even to go through the motions. If you have kids at 18 and you are 36 when your kid is 18 then you can definitely have the energy to pass on a few words of wisdom. 54 and 18, that's a different story.
If anything this would be even worse in Canada than America due to the antitraining culture in trades and the success of organized opposition to school choice and child-centric funding.
I have an uncle that is 12 years old on my mother's side... And I am approaching 30, being the child of my grand-aunt. Then again, I am an uncle to a nephew on my father's side who is roughly 5 years older than me and has a family and two kids...
Dude you're so spot on with this one. Love the raw nature of this video.
Really appreciate this message, JJ.
I really like this video because it takes much more of a sober look at the situation than any media outlet Iâve read. This situation is so senseless and absurd. Jack has put lives in danger and now his life is ruined all for what is essentially clout chasing.
The lives that were placed in danger by this leak deserve it for aiding such a demented institution as the military industrial complex. Let them face the consequences of their actions and pay the greatest price.
@@massimo4307 oh please shut up. Your thinking is part of the problem.
@@massimo4307 ur incredibly ignorant âdonât be like Jackâ that information endangers Ukrainians defending there home from a nation that has historically oppressed and murdered them repetitively not some Lockheed Martin executive
"Lives in danger" isn't that the exact same argument used to shittalk Wikileaks and Chelsa Manning? The only american lives Jack has risked is those of black ops in Ukraine who shouldn't even be there because the US is not at war with Russia and having military operations against them is a good way to start a nuclear war.
@@massimo4307 there wouldn't be any war if Russia didn't invaded Ukraine. And don't give the nato enlargement bullshit, they invaded in 2014 nato didn't do shit
This is why you're my favorite content creator on the Internet. You might be the only human over the age of 35 who can examine youth culture on its own terms without mindless deference, and can identify problems with that culture without reflexively tying them to 13 year olds not knowing the Beatles or something.
Waiting for classified nuclear documents to be leaked in a roblox game script.
The point made in regards to the importance of older, more experienced mentor figures was fantastic, very well articulated. Great video, JJ
very personal and thought provoking video. Iâm glad that as a young person, I work with a diverse group of people of all ages and backgrounds. So much wisdom can be gained just by talking to someone with a different experience than you. Iâm glad to have grown up in a welcoming and safe environment, because spending too much time with certain groups online could have easily sent me down the wrong path.
Is it the "wrong path" or just a new growing cultural disconnet between Gen Z and millennials?
Remember, millennial culture died out as the mainstream (atleast on the internet) in 2014-2015, so a new culture has since formed and matured on the online landscape.
@MrAsianPie I don't think it's a cultural disconnect between Gen Z and millennials. I'm someone in Gen Z and I can get along with Millennials Just fine usually, despite what talk shows and tik tok says we still have a whole lot in common as the "internet generations". Lots of Millenials use the same internet spaces as Gen Z even if they don't overlap perfectly. The only difference here is experience, Gen Z is much more likely to fall into these spaces simply because they are younger and have less experience. That's why it's crucial for older people to reach out in a positive way. It makes a big difference when someone in their 40s reaches out and genuinely shows interest in you as a person and wants to swap advice and ideas. I've had Neighbors like that who definitely influenced my life for the better. Same thing can be said about influencers online.
Yet you guys are all worshipping the status quo, none of you actually read the Leaks you just blindly believe the leader is bad when our own government is illegally violating our own treaties putting us ALL at Risk.
â@@ethanhaynes7406 cope
@@ethanhaynes7406 âLess experienceâ
Millennials are the generation of man-children, I think us Zoomers are on par with them when it comes to life experience.
Man, such a good video. My dad was so focused on befriending teens / young adults in our community and making them feel involved and like equals. He passed a couple years back and that's one of the things that a lot of the parents of them said they were so appreciative of. And this is really making me realize that putting in that effort is really not that difficult and I really should be taking that kind of time myself. You are so right that older people treating the younger generation as equals can be such a positive thing.
This got me a bit more in the feels than I was expecting and it's also a great nudge in the right direction.
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." - 'Old African Proverb'
Thank you so much for using your platform to talk about this.
Hearing JJ swear is like hearing your favorite teacher swear
Thank you for this video. As a young male who grew up emotionally distant from my parents and teachers, especially with puberty coinciding with big changes in my life, I can relate to what was discussed here about us finding role models on the internet. Around the time Trump was elected, my peers and I were getting the bulk of our info on current events from iFunny and Gaming/Drama CZcams channels. We were sheltered, ignorant, and impressionable. I think it twisted our ideas about not only politics, but every corner of life. If I were the parent in this situation and saw what was going on, I would have restricted and monitored my child's internet access. Luckily I made it out unradicalized, as I cared about CZcams and video games, not politics.
Around 2019, I started using Reddit (which despite having a reputation of being cartoonishly right wing, actually became the opposite around this time) and Twitter, and my CZcams feed was full of socialist video essayists and streamers (guess 10 people and you'll get at least half of them right.) I definitely have mixed feelings about this time period, as these people taught me a lot about media literacy, rationality, and different schools of thought. I still watch and respect a few of the CZcamsrs. Some of the Reddit and Twitter users, however, encouraged violence against fascists, which by their definition could sometimes include not just people supporting actual fascists in WWII, but a good 30% of voters in the USA. Some downplayed atrocities committed by communist countries while hyping up the USA's role in escalating the cold war. There were many conspiracy theories that, while not as crankish as those on the right, did not promote a healthy way of thinking.
I was likely exposed to many of the same things as all of these radicalized young people, and while I made it out ok, there was luck involved. This video gave me new perspective on my belief system and childhood.
Thanks again, JJ. I love your analysis on these things, and you're one of the voices of reason in my life right now (my parents are now obsessed with being anti-woke so that's two fewer đ„Č) Hope I'm not too off topic, just wanted to collect my thoughts and write them down.
I donât think being anti woke has anything to do with this. Itâs the conspiracy theories that are causing the problems
I ainât reading all of that
@@rear9259 no asked you to... Now trot along!
Iâm pretty much the same as you. I remember the culture wars, gamergate, and the skeptic community on CZcams during the early 2010s and how those anti sjw and anti feminist groups got even more crazier when Trump got elected. I soon realized the world is more complex and these people donât have any real opinions and are just reactionaries.
That's the danger of radicalization. It convinces you of digging deeper, until you're wholly surrounded by... Well... Very concerning and very dangerous ways of thinking. That's how propaganda works, after all.
I really like your comment urging young people to seek out friends who are older than them. Iâm in my early twenties and almost all of my coworkers are 50-60 and, for the first time in my life, I absolutely love the people I work with. It has been extremely interesting for me to learn how someone who is nearing retirement sees the world. I think itâs a really eye opening experience to talk with someone who has kids the same age or older than I am, and hearing all the world events theyâve experienced and how that has shaped how they think.
Damn, Iâve never seen jj go from depressed to angry so fast.
Thank you for this! The best thing I have done is make our family eat dinner together every night. We talk and talk about the world, the news, and whatever is happening to them in their lives. This is key because if we donât spend time talking with teens, someone else will!
I am 39 and Iâve been doing a lot of mentoring the last few years and I can say itâs very rewarding. I am so thrilled with my younger friends get into graduate school, or get engaged, itâs really fun to see them grow as people.
They actually listen to you? I'm 40 and it seems to be everyone under 30 is pre-programmed to immediately dismiss anything anyone our age says.
@@johnroscoe2406 Perhaps 40 is when one officially becomes "old".
@@rangergxi OP is 39 there is no difference
I think the tone and delivery makes a big difference. I treat my younger peers and (college) students as though theyâre adults worthy of respect and consider their thoughts and ideas before responding and asking them questions to help them and me better understand their beliefs. I try to give feedback in a way that demonstrates I care about them and their longterm success, not just their grades or whatever. And I rarely give advice someone hasnât asked for, because no one likes that! Instead, Iâll share a story from my own life and let them draw their own parallels and lessons.
The one exception is when someone is in an abusive relationship. Then I try to be direct without being another person bossing them around. âListen XYZ, I know you love ABC, but (abusive behavior) is not normal and is abuse. I know I canât tell you to leave ABC, it has to be your choice, but I want you to know that you donât deserve what theyâre doing to you, and if the day comes that you want to leave, I will be here to help you.â
Literally never heard J.J. curse.
As someone who is part of the younger generation, I feel it is one of the most important things in the world to learn from those much older than you, have you beliefs challenged, and make sure you don't believe everything that is told to you because it can be one of the most harmful problems that shape you as a person.
Thank you for being a voice of reason to counteract a lot of theories and polarization that people have made out of a situation like this; I feel like this video should be shown as an example to all young people to teach them that not everything you see is true and being pragmatic is crucial to any information.
@@jeffforsythe9514 if you don't like what he's saying, then *get off his channel.*
I loved this, I watched a bit of it when it was uploaded and Iâm glad I finished it. This story is a great example of the importance of proper education
Incredible work, thank you
I wonder how Ghislaine Maxwell feels to know that her clients list is more secure than secret Pentagon military documents.
Remember Kids, it's not what you know, it's who you know
Why would she care? Sheâs already be convicted. Her client list being leaked would only negatively effect others.
@@waynejohnson1786 oh no, it might negatively affect a bunch of noncey rapists đ±
Yes. This is my biggest complaint with the video. People will believe in conspiracies because the truth is so hard to find. Can we really blame these people when "elites" spend so much money to sway opinions?
I agree that there is a dangerous immature mindset among a lot of young men online and that they need guidance. But after the past two decades of insane, reckless, evil wars in the Middle East, believing that our government is doing GOOD things with our military action is the premise that needs proving, not the other way around. People would have trust in institutions if the institutions ever showed any humility or reason to be trusted. I think that the dangerous culture among young men you're pointing to is the direct result of having broken, evil institutions.
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had Bush II just sent the USAF into Pakistan and levelled Osama's compound instead of messing around in Iraq and Afghanistan, there would still have been an 08 09 crash, because the Community Reinvestment Act had always been a ticking time bomb of a policy, but America would still stand with its dick facing the audience on the world stage.
when the group chat leaks lol
I am 21, almost 22. Ive been watching you and your videos since I was 16. Feels like a long time but, not at the same time. Ive always believed that one of the most important things in all periods of life is to learn from the people older than you. I never had great role models growing up so a lot of my role models have been people online. This is the slippery slope that my generation has fallen into. While I believe for me, I looked up to the right people and this set me onto my course in life, trying to be as good of an adult as I can be, there is another side to this slope. Falling into these harmful communities, the adults to look up to have been and are being fake and purposely exploiting their younger audience , whether this is online or even our fucking politicians do this, causes this behavior that was shown in Jack and A LOT of other kids and young adults. Its horrifying and is something that a lot of people outside of this age demographic just, don't and will never see. Thank you for bringing this to others attention and I truly hope that, like you said, Jack doesn't become martyr for that community.
This is a good video, but I do want to point one thing out: the title of the discord server is not a racist joke. It's a fairly niche internet meme referencing a very famous "bait and switch" meme format where a seemingly normal video would cut to gay porn. It just so happens that one version of this bait and switch meme that got really popular had footage from the studio "thug hunter," hence the name. It's the classic type of post-ironic gen Z humor that really has no meaning at all. But I guarantee 99.99% of people referencing this meme are not doing it in a racist way.
Thought it was in reference to that one video of the guy with the Neco Arc model in VR Chat going âgive me the thug shaker, come on. Shake that shitâ
@@monarchschwoop52 The thing you are talking about was actually referring to the thug shaker, not the other way around
"Thug Shaker" is a slang phrase describing videos of Black men, who presumably live a "thug" lifestyle, performing the "rump shaker" dance move while naked, which consists of shaking their buttocks
@@nee__8132 lol
This raw take is really amazing, JJ. Hearing you speak more candidly on something that clearly has effected you so much is really a gift.
Thank you for this. It is needed.
i really really appreciate this video. as a youngest sibling of many, itâs so important to have adults that you can trust growing up. so many kids fuck up hard because theyâve never been around decent examples
Hearing JJ curse is actually quite refreshing. It shows that he really gives a damn about the topic and is giving us a very real view into his thoughts. I appreciate it.
Please don't delete this video, I wanna watch it later
Too late
Screen record Then upload to CZcams if he deletes the video
JJ, I agree wholeheartedly with your call for a culture of mentorship. Even in my late teens, I never liked how people my age looked at younger kids with disdain and I always made a point to treat them nicely at school and I noticed that my kindness was reciprocated in those instances in high-school and afterwards, in the workplace.
This was a great video! We need more of these, with a wider spread! Thank you.
Thank you for this video. These are the messages we need to be hearing and sharing with our youth.
Please don't take this down, this is such a good video and I really appreciate your honesty.
great to see a different style video which is exactly what this topic needs
Thanks for this information JJ. You have been an inspiration for me personally. Thank you for being a great explainer and powerful man. Stay strong!đ
As a young person, I am infinitely grateful for the amount of upstanding a respectful role models I've had in my life that present in my life, I see events like this and people at my school who are just kinda fucked up and it's kind of a slap of reality that I truly would not be the same person I am today without them.
I just clicked on your profile and you are just like Those people wtf is your channel banner?
@@Aurmm I totally forgot about that đ
@@Aurmm I'm changing it rn
@Melkekua ok its splash mountain now we all good
Im 21 and in the army reserves, and on a rare case was even informed of classified intel. All I have to say is that he took and oath and was given a job with the rules and consequences of breaking them clearly outlined. He isn't just a guy lookinf for clout or who came to regret his decision, he was a guy who decided he'd put people's lives at risk and potential damage his country's security because he wanted the approval of teenagers online. He wasn't just a fool, he was a selfish one, and now he's seeing the consequences of it. You play stupid games you win stupid prizes.
Exactly
That oath also requires every soldier, sailor, airman, and Marine to refuse unlawful orders and exhaust every possible avenue to make unethical conduct known to their chain of command and, failing that, the American people.
â@@jfangm please tell me the unlawful act he was ordered or witnessed being ordered. What part of the UCMJ was being violated besides him talking pictures of classified intel and putting it on a discord server like a dumbass
@@TWE_2000 I think part of what makes this leak a bit shocking is that in previous cases, Chelsea Manning (moral objection to the Iraq and Afghan wars) and Reality Winner (Russian interference in US elections), the motivations were ideological and understandable. In this case, leaking classified information for such mundane reasons appears particularly reprehensible.
@@TWE_2000 The people whose lives are put at risk by this leak are lives supporting a warmongering industry and they all deserve to pay the price for it.
My dad really takes an interest in me. He notices what Iâm feeling before I do. Heâs passionate politically and he talks to me a lot explaining what he feels (even when I donât agree with it-just explaining it, not arguing)
A lot of kids in my school donât have parents like that. Divorced, workaholics, or just deadbeats. When I hear them talk about their parents and their relationship, it depresses me.
This is exactly how I feel. Thank you for posting this
Please don't delete this video, JJ. People need to see this
I've never seen a man completely disregard the information to attack a man's personal life so intensely , it's not like our government has illegal troops on the ground literally signing us all up for WW3 or nothing .
Not like we've been completely lying about troop advantages , casuality numbers, supplies, the fact most of the Money we've sent Ukraine will never see the Front Lines .
But Jack's the bad guy?
Are you people Insane .
JJ, you just said from your heart what your channel is supposed to be. With your channel becoming a place of learning and wisdom establishes a reality check for all of us who watch from straying towards our most extreme thoughts. All of the work youâve done in the last 5 years is one that I admire and respect even though we may differ in political thought. I am very glad that I go to a Vo-Tech high school where it is very diverse in backgrounds and thoughts. Unfortunately, many people around my age do not get this opportunity. Frankly, there isnât enough education done on navigating digital information and more importantly self-awareness of the people we surround ourselves with especially online. To me, youâre the closest thing to an adult mentor ever since I lost my aunt to cancer in 2019. The content that you produce has made a better human.
Thanks for everything JJ
This is a problem my dad and I have been discussing since I was in high school, so at least 7 years, and because of the powerful impact my dad decided he needed to do (rightfully so as a parent) he made sure to teach me how to behave out of high school and going into college. Have common decency, think before you do something, try to see other perspectives, etc- things Iâve grown up seeing as basic knowledge anyone should know.
Iâm lucky enough to have always looked up to people older than me for these reasons and I like seeking their knowledge to help me and working certainly helped me further my knowledge of the real world. I have to thank my coworkers for their life experience and their willingness to share it in a constructive way and weâre just grocery store employees. I learned from the cashiers, managers, box people, people in side departments- all sorta of people with a wide range of lives being lived through. I also try and take their input and share it with people my age or younger. One of my coworkers is 17 and is like a kid sister to me. She constantly goes to me and a couple of my other close friends for advice on things and sheâs smart to look to others with more experience. Iâm not afraid to tell her when I donât know something or that I simply lack the experience to help in a way that feels quantifiable. Itâs my responsibility to be honest to these kids. Itâs important to know not every adult knows everything and any who claims to really knows nothing.
The most foolish people Iâve met are the ones who claim they can tackle any subject and any problem. Their own ignorance is their downfall because they donât even realize how much they donât know what they donât know! They donât have the knowledge bubble as a concept like with astronomy. We know about Earth, our solar system, exoplanets and stars scattered about over what we know as our observable universe. We also know our observable universe isnât the entire universe and that thereâs even more universe out there around our observation bubble. Weâre still understanding our own little bubble in our solar system, so many questions still, and we have to admit with pride that we know that we donât know a lot but that our knowledge was better and more well informed than it was a decade ago. Bring that example into a human life. Experiencing the world opens the mind if you allow yourself to be open to it and then youâll realize how much you donât know.
But now what do we as a society do with this kid? How do we use him as an example of what not to do? Thereâs the angrier part that my dad has which is to murder him as a traitor or America and itâs allies (which I disagree with) and then thereâs what some might believe is more sensible which is to show off his ignorance and to demonstrate to the youth something. It has to be meaningful though. Iâm fairly sure the people who SHOULD be hearing this story, aka the kids like him, arenât paying attention or even care. Theyâre too consumed by their technology. Iâm not saying to remove it but I certainly think I was allowed too much time online as a kid and it certainly affected me in a way that Iâm still overcoming. Iâm turning 24 Saturday but even this less than 3 year gap put enough experience between me and him where I can look and see how itâs sad more than anything how we as a society failed him and his friends. Itâs not like only 20-30 kidsâ parents are to blame. Everyone is. Itâs become too profitable to manufacture echo chambers and so weâre all encouraged to stay in our bubbles.
Please, to anyone still young and impressionable like myself, honestly, unironically go touch grass but do it in an excitingly uncomfortable place! Go to places, talk to new people, and donât be afraid to make mistakes. No one coasts through life without mistakes. If your soul isnât marred with mistakes then how can it be decorated with accomplishments?
Share this information with whoever needs to hear it in your life. Most of JJâs audience seems to understand this concept but not all of our friends do for any multitude of reasons. Share your knowledge and seek to help others for humanityâs sake and to our benefit. We canât fail others the way we failed him.
Thank you jj for posting this