Interesting video. I also watched the one Gerbil did about this team and the differences between you two makes it hard to know what to do, haha. I’d be interested in seeing battles using the different characters rotated out in the squad. For example, using Ezra instead of Sabine, etc.
I’d love to try that, but in arena I think I can safely say that anything I have to test against would get destroyed without Sabine - need the staggers!
I would just say as a side note that zebs unique does have the best passive protection recovery which is really nice if you want to try and get max banners
It’s true that he has food protection recovery, but for the team to work at its best you need to avoid being on the back foot where you would need it. Rex also recovers plenty of protection for everyone
I didn't it mean that way, lol. Not fast as in game speed. How did you acquire Rex so quickly. Cere Junda took a lot longer to get. (Me saying cere must have been so concussing, lol)@@songeta
I have my phoenix team relic 7 but the first match I got beaten I might need to change some mods but the last 2 lv teams I wrecked them that was awesome the clones where good too in 3 v 3 on offense they helped me win my last match.
I agree on Offense since you're in control but on defense i would still prefer Zeb cause it makes the whole team like a tank and his stun removes again another person from doing damage. Also I think i'd like sabine in my mando team more :D for better squad management
Sorry another question, i havent applied the rex omicron yet but when i tried this in arena the initial daze from LV was dispelled. Is that working correctly as i thought it was the omicron that auto dispelled the daze?
@4:28 if you dont want the enemy to take alot of turns and you want to keep your TM train going, Zeb is the best option, he will literally stun everyone at all times bc daze will be applied pretty much always.. this is what ppl dont seem to get, he assist off every special, he will stun on every assist...just saying, kinda contradictory. but again the phoenix team is all situational. For teams like zorri or tm heavy teams, Zeb is by far the best option, versus other teams sabine and kanan are the best options. unfortunately ezra gets left out in every situation for me. Also Sabine should be fastest on the team, open up with aoe stagger, follow up with rex aoe daze.. its a glorious site to see
I mean, yeah I wish it was Zeb as the best - but for the GL teams Sabine wins out. I guess if you want to use Phoenix on something smaller and you can get around taunts and actually stun people, then yeah Zeb can work. I love Zeb, just don’t think he beats Sabine sadly
You mentioned potency several times. Are you using that just for times when enemies won't have tenacity down? Because when tenacity down is there there's an unavoidable 15% resist chance that potency won't affect. I find overall that the only person who really needs good mods is Rex. My team is still doing these counters with five dot mods on the rest of the team, because there's so much turn meter given their speed is mostly irrelevant
From testing, the counter seemed to become more reliable when I was adding speed and potency. I thought the speed wouldn’t matter, but there were times when chopper’s basic wasn’t reducing the right cooldowns (cause that is rng) and I had small gaps in the TM train where I needed to gain some TM organically. The extra speed helped a lot
To add to this potency modding if you have this team modded specifically to have sabine be faster then rex for the stagger into Aoe combo then her potency is really important to land stagger.
Btw about your guide f2p that was in mid 2023 I don't think i need that first part(i am at cls part and got all shards for separatist team but not for janjo fett he around 4-5*) so i should do your mid guide or i better use your old?
@@scarvic1726 Songeta Mid 2023 Guide was trash. Songeta Beginning 2023 Guide was better, but still had errors. If you followed Songeta Beginning 2023 Guide, you can’t go for SLKR. It would be horrible mistake. Songeta older Guide recommended the following: 1st - Phoenix 2nd - Empire 3rd - Rebel The above team building line is Great if you are going for GL Lea, GL Jabba, or GL Luke. The above team building line is Bad if your seeking to go after other GL’s. ------- To get GL Lea, I think the direct team path is: 1st - Phoenix You need Captain Rex for Lea req. 2nd - Empire (With Palpatine + Thrawn) You need R2D2 for Lea req. 3rd - Rebel (With R2D2) You need CLS for Lea req. 4th - Ewok (You will pick up C-3PO has bonus) You need Princess, Wicket, & Chief for Lea req. -------- To get GL Jabba, I think the direct path is: 1st - Phoenix You will need Palpatine with Vader in early Game. 2nd - Empire (With Palpatine + Thrawn) You need R2D2 for CLS 3rd - Rebel (With R2D2) You need CLS for JKLS 4th - Bounty Hunters You need few Bounty Hunters for Jabba req. You will need Chewie + M.Falcon for JKLS 5th - Ewok You need C-3PO for JKLS 6th - Hutt Cartel + JKLS You will need to pick up the remaining Jabba req. You should have all requirements at this point to get Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker for Jabba req. ---------- To get GL Luke, The direct path is even more insane. It’s not worth going for GL Luke as your 1st GL in my humble opinion. GL Lea needs about 4 teams GL Jabba needs about 6 teams GL Luke needs about 7 teams Basically, Luke’s requirements are the same as Jaba’s. The difference is the Hutt Cartel team. Jabba needs Hutt Cartel team. Luke needs First Order team (To unlock BB8) + Resistance team (To unlock Jedi Training Rey) The 3 starting teams seem to be same for these 3 GL’s. This is why I think you should consider going for 1 of them vs. SLKR.
@@scarvic1726 If you really wanted to go for SLKR, the starting Path would have been completely different in my opinion. SLKR requirements don’t really overlay with other GL’s. The closest GL SLKR shares requirements with would be GL Rey. This is why the line of play is very different. 1st - Phoenix You need Palpatine for SLKR req. 2nd - First Order You need First Order characters + Ships for SLKR req. You can pick up BB8 on the side as bonus 3rd - Veteran Smuggler Han Solo / Resistance You need Veteran Hans for SLKR req. You could if you wanted to use BB8 + Veteran Hans + 3 more Resistance Characters to pick up Jedi Training Rey. 4th - Bounty Hunters You need Bounty Hunter ships + First Order ships to get Finalizer which is SLKR req. -------- From start to finish, your looking at 3 teams with a 4th team being optional. I do think it would be worth it to go for the 4th team. Jedi Training Rey doesn’t take huge investment to unlock and you will already have half team unlocked. The 3 remaining Resistance characters are not very hard to get so yeah. At max your looking at 4 teams. At minimum your looking at 3 teams + 1 side character. SLKR takes less teams to unlock vs. Lea, Jabba, or Luke. However, the path you went isn’t going to be fast anymore. You spiral off into different direction. Just look at what you have done compared to what you will need to do: 1st - Phoenix 2nd - Empire 3rd - Rebel The above 3 is what you have done. To do SLKR, you will have to back track and do: 4th - First Order 5th - Veteran Hans / Resistance 6th - Bounty Hunters This would put you over all at 5 to 6 teams. Which is way more vs. normal 3 to 4 teams SLKR normally would do. If you was really wanted to get GL as fast as possible, You would want to go for GL Lea. You only need to make Ewok team 4th for Lea. Or If you wanted a powerhouse GL, you could go for GL Jabba. 4th - Bounty Hunters 5th - Ewok 6th - Hutt Cartel Why build 6 teams for SLKR when you could build 6 for Jabba who is the true power house! -------- Again at the end of the day, you can do what ever you want. I’m just saying you should consider your options here.
CLS, Starkiller, Taron Unaligned force users and Reva are higher rated on Ahnald’s list with a balance of offense and defence in GAC. Captain Rex Phoenix is 6 on offense and defence but on defence they’re defeated by Tuskens, Jawas and possibly Traya.
i don't think you stressed the fact the LV counter is datacron dependent. 10% stacking offense enables this
Pretty sure I mentioned it.
hera´s tw omicron does that aswell!
This helped so much! New player here going for Phoenix atm.
Thank you!!!
Just still a bit confused over the mods 😅
thank you for sharing your recommendations for the phoenix team
You’re welcome!
Thank you! This answers some questions I had. Very much appreciated 🍻
Awesome!
My to-do list gets bigger and bigger every day lol. Cheers for the video.
All in stride my friend!
Interesting video. I also watched the one Gerbil did about this team and the differences between you two makes it hard to know what to do, haha. I’d be interested in seeing battles using the different characters rotated out in the squad. For example, using Ezra instead of Sabine, etc.
I’d love to try that, but in arena I think I can safely say that anything I have to test against would get destroyed without Sabine - need the staggers!
Love seeing Phoenix get used again, I need to put 3 zetas on them, but I think it's worth it for beating a GL!
I agree! I'm just glad I had some zetas to give them, Kanaan's in particular is crazy good
@@songeta Think either him or sabine will be my first one to fire on, just glad Zeb doesn't really need his.
I would just say as a side note that zebs unique does have the best passive protection recovery which is really nice if you want to try and get max banners
It’s true that he has food protection recovery, but for the team to work at its best you need to avoid being on the back foot where you would need it. Rex also recovers plenty of protection for everyone
Wow, that's crazy! How did you get Rex so fast? You got him so much faster than Cere Junda . . . Can't wait to use this team in a few months!
Just have a mod stock built up over a few years!
I didn't it mean that way, lol. Not fast as in game speed. How did you acquire Rex so quickly. Cere Junda took a lot longer to get. (Me saying cere must have been so concussing, lol)@@songeta
@@adamosborne3765 The Rex/Kneesa drop event.
@@adamosborne3765 ohhh, yeah duh should have known that haha. It was from the extra drops events! Both double and Rex drops
I have my phoenix team relic 7 but the first match I got beaten I might need to change some mods but the last 2 lv teams I wrecked them that was awesome the clones where good too in 3 v 3 on offense they helped me win my last match.
Gotta keep an eye on relative speeds and TM gain of the enemy team. A fast Reva can beat you cause she gets plus 30 speed from unique
Hera, sexy rexy, Kanan, chopper, and Sabine are my go to. Wrecks Lv and Reva in 2 min. 💪💯
Teach me master
They’re so good
@@marioramirez6741 press auto, its pretty amazing lol
How much of that is CRex datacron-dependent? When it expires, where do we think that leaves the team?
I agree on Offense since you're in control but on defense i would still prefer Zeb cause it makes the whole team like a tank and his stun removes again another person from doing damage. Also I think i'd like sabine in my mando team more :D for better squad management
I wouldn’t put this team on defense cause it can get wrecked by a basic Padme team, Tusken sand im sure other cheap counters
So hera, rex, kanan, sabine, and chopper?
Love the content❤
Great vid. Does the Rex omicron work in arena? Cant remember if CG made that change to help testing
Sorry another question, i havent applied the rex omicron yet but when i tried this in arena the initial daze from LV was dispelled. Is that working correctly as i thought it was the omicron that auto dispelled the daze?
The omicron doesn’t work in Arena, but the datacron does. The dispel would happen because of the lvl 9 Rex datacron ability!
@4:28 if you dont want the enemy to take alot of turns and you want to keep your TM train going, Zeb is the best option, he will literally stun everyone at all times bc daze will be applied pretty much always.. this is what ppl dont seem to get, he assist off every special, he will stun on every assist...just saying, kinda contradictory. but again the phoenix team is all situational. For teams like zorri or tm heavy teams, Zeb is by far the best option, versus other teams sabine and kanan are the best options. unfortunately ezra gets left out in every situation for me. Also Sabine should be fastest on the team, open up with aoe stagger, follow up with rex aoe daze.. its a glorious site to see
I mean, yeah I wish it was Zeb as the best - but for the GL teams Sabine wins out. I guess if you want to use Phoenix on something smaller and you can get around taunts and actually stun people, then yeah Zeb can work. I love Zeb, just don’t think he beats Sabine sadly
You mentioned potency several times. Are you using that just for times when enemies won't have tenacity down? Because when tenacity down is there there's an unavoidable 15% resist chance that potency won't affect. I find overall that the only person who really needs good mods is Rex. My team is still doing these counters with five dot mods on the rest of the team, because there's so much turn meter given their speed is mostly irrelevant
From testing, the counter seemed to become more reliable when I was adding speed and potency. I thought the speed wouldn’t matter, but there were times when chopper’s basic wasn’t reducing the right cooldowns (cause that is rng) and I had small gaps in the TM train where I needed to gain some TM organically. The extra speed helped a lot
To add to this potency modding if you have this team modded specifically to have sabine be faster then rex for the stagger into Aoe combo then her potency is really important to land stagger.
How would you approach mid game accounts with g8 Phoenix. What can you do with getting them to g12 and omi rex?
Probably still a lot! Not beat GL’s, but as a turn meter train team you just need to get out ahead and then keep hammering away
How good are the Phoenix in their Assault Battle with Rex now? Can they beat Challenge Tier 3 now?
I tried and they were quite disappointing haha. Couldn't get through even the first couple waves fast - I think they're a no-go
I heard that Kanan needed for GL leia team. Who is kanan replacer in that case?
If I had to, I’d probably sub in Ezra to get some more damage and he does have some good TM gain
Btw about your guide f2p that was in mid 2023 I don't think i need that first part(i am at cls part and got all shards for separatist team but not for janjo fett he around 4-5*) so i should do your mid guide or i better use your old?
It’s up to you! Both are fine, but idk if you wanna go for Jabba first GL. I’d go for DR as well
@@songeta well i think to go for slkr cause he is good. And in your old 2023 guide you said that slkr is first legend
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Songeta Mid 2023 Guide was trash.
Songeta Beginning 2023 Guide was better, but still had errors.
If you followed Songeta Beginning 2023 Guide, you can’t go for SLKR.
It would be horrible mistake.
Songeta older Guide recommended the following:
1st - Phoenix
2nd - Empire
3rd - Rebel
The above team building line is Great if you are going for GL Lea, GL Jabba, or GL Luke.
The above team building line is Bad if your seeking to go after other GL’s.
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To get GL Lea, I think the direct team path is:
1st - Phoenix
You need Captain Rex for Lea req.
2nd - Empire (With Palpatine + Thrawn)
You need R2D2 for Lea req.
3rd - Rebel (With R2D2)
You need CLS for Lea req.
4th - Ewok (You will pick up C-3PO has bonus)
You need Princess, Wicket, & Chief for Lea req.
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To get GL Jabba, I think the direct path is:
1st - Phoenix
You will need Palpatine with Vader in early Game.
2nd - Empire (With Palpatine + Thrawn)
You need R2D2 for CLS
3rd - Rebel (With R2D2)
You need CLS for JKLS
4th - Bounty Hunters
You need few Bounty Hunters for Jabba req.
You will need Chewie + M.Falcon for JKLS
5th - Ewok
You need C-3PO for JKLS
6th - Hutt Cartel + JKLS
You will need to pick up the remaining Jabba req.
You should have all requirements at this point to get Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker for Jabba req.
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To get GL Luke, The direct path is even more insane.
It’s not worth going for GL Luke as your 1st GL in my humble opinion.
GL Lea needs about 4 teams
GL Jabba needs about 6 teams
GL Luke needs about 7 teams
Basically, Luke’s requirements are the same as Jaba’s.
The difference is the Hutt Cartel team.
Jabba needs Hutt Cartel team.
Luke needs First Order team (To unlock BB8) + Resistance team (To unlock Jedi Training Rey)
The 3 starting teams seem to be same for these 3 GL’s.
This is why I think you should consider going for 1 of them vs. SLKR.
@@scarvic1726
If you really wanted to go for SLKR, the starting Path would have been completely different in my opinion.
SLKR requirements don’t really overlay with other GL’s.
The closest GL SLKR shares requirements with would be GL Rey.
This is why the line of play is very different.
1st - Phoenix
You need Palpatine for SLKR req.
2nd - First Order
You need First Order characters + Ships for SLKR req.
You can pick up BB8 on the side as bonus
3rd - Veteran Smuggler Han Solo / Resistance
You need Veteran Hans for SLKR req.
You could if you wanted to use BB8 + Veteran Hans + 3 more Resistance Characters to pick up Jedi Training Rey.
4th - Bounty Hunters
You need Bounty Hunter ships + First Order ships to get Finalizer which is SLKR req.
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From start to finish, your looking at 3 teams with a 4th team being optional.
I do think it would be worth it to go for the 4th team.
Jedi Training Rey doesn’t take huge investment to unlock and you will already have half team unlocked.
The 3 remaining Resistance characters are not very hard to get so yeah.
At max your looking at 4 teams.
At minimum your looking at 3 teams + 1 side character.
SLKR takes less teams to unlock vs. Lea, Jabba, or Luke.
However, the path you went isn’t going to be fast anymore.
You spiral off into different direction.
Just look at what you have done compared to what you will need to do:
1st - Phoenix
2nd - Empire
3rd - Rebel
The above 3 is what you have done.
To do SLKR, you will have to back track and do:
4th - First Order
5th - Veteran Hans / Resistance
6th - Bounty Hunters
This would put you over all at 5 to 6 teams.
Which is way more vs. normal 3 to 4 teams SLKR normally would do.
If you was really wanted to get GL as fast as possible, You would want to go for GL Lea.
You only need to make Ewok team 4th for Lea.
Or
If you wanted a powerhouse GL, you could go for GL Jabba.
4th - Bounty Hunters
5th - Ewok
6th - Hutt Cartel
Why build 6 teams for SLKR when you could build 6 for Jabba who is the true power house!
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Again at the end of the day, you can do what ever you want.
I’m just saying you should consider your options here.
Can this team be used for proving ground? Im 3 mil GP and am wondering i should try to 7 star rex or keep building a traya and padme team for PG
I have no idea - but I think if Traya and Padme are confirmed to be good for it then keep working on those
Hell, I have CR omi at ~3 mil, EVERY SINGLE TIME in 3v3 he holds, cuz no one knows the counter. Can’t wait for 5v5 so I can use it to the fullest…
Wow, that's awesome!
Rex is just the slowest farm ever 😭😩
Yeah, if you weren't able to capitalize on those extra drops he will take forever :(
The real question is will this work without datacrons lol
If the opposing team also had no datacrons, then yeah I think it would in GAC
Phoenix is the best non GL team
its good but 100% not the best non gl team not even close
@@fabianweller6077 It isnt "not close". It can beat a lot of Teams and GLs, more than SK for Example
CLS, Starkiller, Taron Unaligned force users and Reva are higher rated on Ahnald’s list with a balance of offense and defence in GAC. Captain Rex Phoenix is 6 on offense and defence but on defence they’re defeated by Tuskens, Jawas and possibly Traya.
Wtf am i watching right now? You took 3000 turns while opponent sleeps.
Pretty crazy right?