I love the user interface on the ZVE1 it’s really really good. Very simple and I have never had this problem I don’t know what you are doing. But it must something you are doing.
What an awesome video. Really enjoyed it a lot. I recently purchased a S5IIx (coming soon to my hands) and this video was really informative and entertaining.
Thankyou so much for the kind words. You'll love the S5iIX and I hope your budget stretches to include a few of those gorgeous F1.8 S primes. We use the 18mm and 35mm a lot :)
Hi! Well, I took advantage of a promotion in B&H Photo. Came with the 20-60 kit lens...not so bad, and a 50mm 1.8 So yes, I will enjoy it lot and let her produce for more lenses and accessories.@@EwenBell
Marvellous :) That 50 F1.8 is the one my wife uses day-in day-out for food photography. She loves it. And nice that the S series primes have the same filter thread as the 20-60mm zoom. Good luck with your journey!@@joserangelve
This was a great comparison of the pros and cons of both cameras. My main concern with the S5II is moire. I’ve seen a few videos with users highlighting issues with moiré. I know unlike the Sony ZV-E1 the S5ii/x don’t have a low-pass OLPF filter. SONY ZV-E1 FX3/FX30 etc have. I’m new to video photography and bought the S5ii X as it's both professional yet accessible. I’ve only tried loan lens for a day and can’t report moire issues. Yet I can’t relax as I’m terrified of moire ruining footage. From the research i've done moire is an unavoidable characteristic of Bayer sensors. Panasonic add OLPF filter to the S1H but couldnt for the S5II. I was thinking of trading S5II for Sony FX3, purely because of fears of moire and lack of low pass filter. But in every otehr way the camera seems fantastic. Any thoughts Ewen. Again my thanks for this video
Hey Tom. I haven't seen any issues with moire on the S5II myself. It hasn't been a concern for me at all, never crossed my mind when shooting. Seeing at you already have the S5IIX I think you're better off creating a test scene, something that is most likely to trigger the effect. See how you go. Try to find the limits of what does and doesn't work for your style of light and camera setup. Then you'll be able to relax and just focus on the creative aspects:)
I have been using the S5IIX since last couple of months and I was also worried about the issue of moire along with rolling shutter. I even encountered the moire effect in few of my videos and photos. But I think this is negligible since it somehow goes away to large extent after the post processing. The effect appears occasionally in some particulate type of fine details if they fall in the sharpest focus area. About the rolling shutter, its also there but I feel this is also livable because the camera offers many other positive features which overshadow these few shortcomings.
A great video, I particularly liked your open and honesty about your association with Lumix. You did not just quickly mumble it. You really got into the detail which I thought showed a high degree integrity. I have the Sony A1, the A7, S3 and the ZV-E1 and can’t agree with you more about the menu structure being truly diabolical. I’m looking for an excuse to try another brand and Lumix keep coming up. The issue I have currently is that whilst the stabilisation is good, I have seen too many clips where it goes a bit weird at the edges and the lack of 120p recording. Let’s see what comes out in the next few months before I start my road trip from the UK down to Cappadocia in Turkey on a motorbike.
Thanks for the kind words Jamie. Yes the lack of 120p is a shame. The warping in the corners on wide lens stabilisation is definitely better on the S5II than the previous model. I have a video on my CZcams page from the Kimberley Coast and most of that was shot with the Sigma 14-24mm on the S5II. With a look. Holds up pretty well. They're really such different cameras though. Fundamentally they feel so different and put you into a creative space that is not the same. This is why I say, get the camera you love instead of the one someone told you is technically better :)
I have watched a lot of review videos the last few days and this is the only one I thumbed up because you addressed some issues with that Sony camera which crosses over to their other cameras as well. Sony used to be renowned for bad UI and poor quality as well but I don't see really huge improvements. I've had a number of things break on Sony cameras. So much so that my last failure is the last straw. I used Canon cameras for many years before mirrorless came along and never had a single issue. I'm looking at Lumix now. I might pick up an older S1 because at the moment I'm doing more photography. The S1s are dirt cheap. If that goes well I'll look to Lumix for future buys. I use a lot of vintage manual focus lenses so the weak S1 autofocus won't be huge issue for much of what I'm doing at the moment. It has a lovely EVF for manual focus. I do want to do more video which I had initially got into Sony for. I'm not impressed enough with Canon or Nikon mirrorless in general yet at least for reasonable priced cameras. I wish Nikon had concentrated on a Z6III instead of that retro Zf thing which is like a fashion accessory. No matter how good the autofocus is with Sony, there are a number of other issues which cause you lose shots or you actually get a complete failure. I also think that the small diameter Sony mount will limit their ability to keep improving IBIS whereas the other companies with their newer wider mounts will keep improving and they are slowly catching up with autofocus. The newer system on Lumix looks like a great start with phase detect.
Thanks for the comments and I think you've covered the options well. Have run a lot of workshops over the years and I only see two brands consistently have failures - Sony and Olympus. My LUMIX cameras get a rough ride and they cope really well. No camera is perfect, but it sounds like you've done your research. 👍
@@EwenBellMy old Gh4 had a crack on the outer shell, a couple of spots like burned pixel clusters (which showed up in certain conditions), and I still used it and even sold it towards the end. My Gh5 is working fine after a few years with me, and I don’t know how many prior my bought, just the grip on the cards’ cover gave away, an easy fix. I really hope my S5 II X will be as reliable as those, or even half of those: I’d be happy the same.
The S5ii is a great camera, but the autofocus and lack of uncropped 4k 60, never mind 4k 120 (the latter of which is my favourite thing about the ZVE1, I just went to Disney and did a video where I shot it all the time.) ruled it out. I do however have regular ‘hot pixels’ appearing on the Sony, only visible in dark environments at high ISO. The pixel mapping runs almost every time it starts up, but these pixels can appear mid shoot. Check yours out, let it warm up with 20 mins of shooting, maybe a bit of 60 or 120, then take it in a dark room. Then look on a computer monitor- hot pixels appear all the time ! No reviewer mentions this.
That's interesting information and I will give that a go. I agree that pixel mapper function comes up a lot and you have to wonder why that is. Hot pixels makes sense. 👍
Hello, very nice video! I have two questions about your camera, the Sony ZV-E1: What about overheating at 4K 120 fps? What is the risk of only having one SD card slot? Could the video be lost if there is a card error and you don't have a copy? Do you recommend this camera for professional Videography? I would be grateful for your answers as an experienced person with this camera.
Hello. I've never once had the ZVE1 get too hot. Not after months of travel in the Himalayas, and not when filming at 4K for an hour in the studio. I can feel it get hot, but it hasn't failed on me so far. I think either the S5II or the ZVE1 are both excellent for professional work. Log gamma for 10-bit 422 at full-frame is my baseline for quality and they both deliver results. Let's add teh LUMIX S9 into that list too, such a great little unit. My golden rule is "buy the camera you love". Don't worry so much about the tech specs. Go try out the menu, try out the buttons, and see how it feels in your hands. And get the one that makes you excited to use it. Then learn how to get the best out of the camera you really enjoy working with.
Loved some of the video within, especially from Bhutan (using the ZV E1). No perfect camera it appears, often hard to beat Sony at video, but do love the way Panasonic designs their cameras. I’m largely in a mft format and now considering a G9ii, but do wish Panasonic would make some smaller cameras once again (with new features). Still, the FF work from either of these cameras does look a bit richer. Great video!
Very nice review of both cameras with a bit of a different approach. I owned the Panasonic S5 for a short time. I loved the Image Quality and the look of both photos and videos. So many features compared to sony cameras. But, the AF was lacking and i had the hardest time seperating video and photo settings, so i ended up taking hundreds of underexposed photos with vlog profile on an important trip. Now i have a ZV-E1 and things are different. AF is awesome, image quality not really better in my eyes. But i have to say once you get used to the menu its really not as bad as you say. You can set the saved custom modes on a Custom Button like C1 for example and from there easily switch between user profiles and its als nicely seperated between photo and video so you can have each 6 profiles (3 on camera, 3 on sd card) for photo and video. I have to say it was easier to get into the sony menu system for me than the panasonic one. Still i love the feel and feature rich Lumix Cameras and maybe will get another one, one day.
Yes the original S5 was a generation behind on AF. Glad you're enjoying the ZV-E1, it really is a fun camera. I actually don't mind the 12mp for stills even - There's a look you get from the lower pixel density that is reminiscent of the DSLR days :)
@@EwenBell Yes that is true! Reminds me of my Nikon D90 back then, 12MP and i made some of my greatest photos with that camera. I actually use the ZV-E1 a lot for photography and it works nicely. Only for wildlife i sometimes wished i could crop a bit more. Other than that it's a nice sensor, Astro works really well with it too since the sensor is great in low light.
The studio recording was done on the Lumix S5II (+Sigma 35mm F1.2). The S5II AF works well for interview settings, has been reliable and easy to setup. Good enough to record at F1.2. Obviously no worries about overheating either :) I definitely prefer the Lumix in the studio.
Thanks for the comparison between the two cameras. Nice footage from Bhutan. Hope that when Panasonic releases the S1 II / S1R II / S1H II / ??? they will have improved the autofocus over the AF in the S5 II. (And of course, 4k 60p in full frame.)
No doubt they will. Very excited to get a look at the G9II soon and see if they've tweaked the phase detect a bit. Have seen some encouraging signs from other CZcams channels.
And Panasonic usually upgrade the older models via firmware update, so their cameras tends to have a longer life than their counterparts. The Gh5 is still quite usable thanks to all the things they added and changed through the years
The s5 low light noise is the main reason I sold it. I got the zv-e1 and it's great for casual shooting. One day when I don't care about spending money or too much clutter I will get the s5iix.
I've been shooting low-light with the original S5 for a couple of years and it's dual-ISO is amazing. Same for the S5II and S5IIX. I explain the dual ISO of the Lumix and Sony models at 17:44... czcams.com/video/AqnKqavYi98/video.htmlsi=PmuxpL5a7KEDZvAE&t=1065
Great review Ewen. I strayed from my usual Panasonic brand to get the Sony ZV-E1 because of the 60fps and 120fps with little to no crop. Thanks for the recommendation on the Tamron 35-150 it wasn't on my radar. I'd love to see a short clip taken with the ZV-E1 shot with the Tamron lens.
Thanks David! I should have marked the clips clearly in the video, but most of the black hat dancers in that review were shot with the Tamron. I have a little more info on my website for that lens too, can recommend! ewenbell.com/blog/Tamron_35-150mm_F/2-2.8_Di_III_VXD
I know no one wants to concede but I had to move from Sony to LUMIX for my Applications. I thought I would have “some” regrets but multiple S5 ii later…. I honestly have none.
Lumix S5IIX have a 422 HQ on SSD, little bit better ibis, then in ZV-E1, but terrible rolling shutter, no 120fps in 4K, 4k 60p crop 1.5x. ZV-E1 - Low light monster, best rolling shutter, better AF and 4K 120 fps.
I've never seen the S5IIX so didn't include that in my comparison. They're both great cameras, but in different ways. Have to be super careful with ISO on the ZVE1 because until you hit 12800 there's a lot of noise at higher ISO. Can catch you out until the high gain circuit kicks in. The AF on the Sony is just amazing though.
@@EwenBell Rule №1 of filmmaking - film only on native ISO at any camera. P.S. ND filters helps to you. S5IIX is the same camera(with some extra options), you can upgrade your S5II to S5IIX specs for 200$ on official website.
These are the Okko filters and I love them! I tried so many versions of magnetic filters and finally found these guys. ewenbell.com/blog/OKKO_Magnetic_Filters_Review
Thank you for this comparison..and the technical light you put on sony's menu system...but i"am sorry to say that this music doesn't fit at all with the beautful images and the places you were filming on...
Thank you for the informative video. I’m interested in the S5II but would you be able to comment on the exposure being boosted during half press on the shutter in photography mode which is done to aid the autofocus rather than show you a correct exposure from what other people have been reporting. I would find this incredibly distracting, or is this something you eventually get used to? Many thanks.
Hey Zeeshan :) Honestly can't say I've heard about any exposure boosting issues. I've spent a lot of time in the past 12 months shooting stills with the S5II and just love it. I find the live view very much "what you see is what you get". I suggest you walk into a store and just try it out for yourself, see how you like it. See if the menu is good or just not your style. See how it feels in the hand. My general advice for cameras is to pick the one you love, not the one some dude on the internet says is technically better :)
@@EwenBell Wise words indeed, thank you for your swift response. You have gained a subscriber. Have you had any experience with the 20-60 mm kit lens. Keen to hear your opinion on this lens.
I have a few of the 20-60mm in fact, because each of my S5 and S5II bodies came with that kit lens! It's actually very sharp and hits above its weight. I like shooting everything at F2, so I avoid this lens for that reason. "Normal" people however don't seem to shoot everything at F2 :) I used it a lot when I first got the S5 and it delivered great stuff (But at bigger f-stops). I always have in my travel kit as my backup lens.@@ZeeshanKhan-kk7qd
Sold my A7IV for a Lumix S5iix, and after two months sold my Lumix for the ZVE1, zero regrets. Lumix kinda sucks. Its image is just soft in a weird way, the dynamic range is definitely lower, the lenses are worse, and all those stand out video features are useless. 6k Open Gate is locked to h.265 and Long GOP 200mbps, meanhwile you can do standard 4k at 600mbps in All Intra, effectively making 6k open gate useless when the bit rate creates a better image than the resolution, and the aspect ratioeans youll crop to 16:9 anyway, losing a fair amount of that resolution anyway. So the Lumix's biggest advantages on paper arent really beneficial, so the Sony advantages clearly put it superior to Lumix. Also i completley disagree with the menus and usability. The Lumix is labyrinthian.there are way more tiny little options that you can only access through the menu and cant aet to a quick menu or button. Also, the S5ii is not nearly as good at hybrid photo-video coverage because the Sony remembers and separates every single setting between photo and video. I can switch in an instant and go from manual white balance standard color profile to SLog3 and auto white balance with a slightly cool and meganta leaning, with a literal switch of a button. Literally one second. The Lumix cannot do that. I was covering an event and was going back and forth between photo and video and took a bunch of photos in VLog, also the white balance carries over. Once i realized halfway through the event i made sure to correct it each time, and it really slowed me down and I missed shots on a fashion runway.
Cheers so much great comparison however Sony's made to be pre set up before going out and take photographs or filming if you know what ttpe of photos youl'll be taking or films you'll be making and yes I agree people need to decide what's most important autofocus or stabilisation bit will add lens selection and for me I believe that’s Sony Look are subjective 😊❤
Thanks for dropping a line. As a travel photographer I rarely have the luxury of knowing what I'll be shooting before I step out the door. Life comes at you fast!
I'm not sure where this idea that the Sony is "made to be pre set up" apologies, that's a silly idea. It's a vlogging centric hybrid camera versatility is part of it's the hybrid design philosophy, meaning if they designed it to be pre-set up it would be antithetical to that idea. I don't buy that at all. But I do believe it simply represents some poorly thought-out design choices.
We'll have to disagree on the menu system! But you might enjoy seeing what poster sized prints look like off the ZV-E1. It delivers on image, ain't no doubt... czcams.com/video/A-Ox9IaCjr4/video.html
I love the user interface on the ZVE1 it’s really really good. Very simple and I have never had this problem I don’t know what you are doing. But it must something you are doing.
What an awesome video. Really enjoyed it a lot. I recently purchased a S5IIx (coming soon to my hands) and this video was really informative and entertaining.
Thankyou so much for the kind words. You'll love the S5iIX and I hope your budget stretches to include a few of those gorgeous F1.8 S primes. We use the 18mm and 35mm a lot :)
Hi! Well, I took advantage of a promotion in B&H Photo. Came with the 20-60 kit lens...not so bad, and a 50mm 1.8
So yes, I will enjoy it lot and let her produce for more lenses and accessories.@@EwenBell
Marvellous :) That 50 F1.8 is the one my wife uses day-in day-out for food photography. She loves it. And nice that the S series primes have the same filter thread as the 20-60mm zoom. Good luck with your journey!@@joserangelve
Side note your lighting in this video is epic
Awwww thanks!
Great comparison, loved the footage from Bhutan too. I'm very happy to stick with my LUMIX S5 for now :)
Not tempted by the Leica SL2-S??? Can use all the same lenses!
@@EwenBell I will never financially recover 🤣
This was a great comparison of the pros and cons of both cameras. My main concern with the S5II is moire. I’ve seen a few videos with users highlighting issues with moiré. I know unlike the Sony ZV-E1 the S5ii/x don’t have a low-pass OLPF filter. SONY ZV-E1 FX3/FX30 etc have. I’m new to video photography and bought the S5ii X as it's both professional yet accessible. I’ve only tried loan lens for a day and can’t report moire issues. Yet I can’t relax as I’m terrified of moire ruining footage. From the research i've done moire is an unavoidable characteristic of Bayer sensors. Panasonic add OLPF filter to the S1H but couldnt for the S5II. I was thinking of trading S5II for Sony FX3, purely because of fears of moire and lack of low pass filter. But in every otehr way the camera seems fantastic. Any thoughts Ewen. Again my thanks for this video
Hey Tom. I haven't seen any issues with moire on the S5II myself. It hasn't been a concern for me at all, never crossed my mind when shooting. Seeing at you already have the S5IIX I think you're better off creating a test scene, something that is most likely to trigger the effect. See how you go. Try to find the limits of what does and doesn't work for your style of light and camera setup. Then you'll be able to relax and just focus on the creative aspects:)
I have been using the S5IIX since last couple of months and I was also worried about the issue of moire along with rolling shutter. I even encountered the moire effect in few of my videos and photos. But I think this is negligible since it somehow goes away to large extent after the post processing. The effect appears occasionally in some particulate type of fine details if they fall in the sharpest focus area. About the rolling shutter, its also there but I feel this is also livable because the camera offers many other positive features which overshadow these few shortcomings.
A great video, I particularly liked your open and honesty about your association with Lumix. You did not just quickly mumble it. You really got into the detail which I thought showed a high degree integrity. I have the Sony A1, the A7, S3 and the ZV-E1 and can’t agree with you more about the menu structure being truly diabolical. I’m looking for an excuse to try another brand and Lumix keep coming up. The issue I have currently is that whilst the stabilisation is good, I have seen too many clips where it goes a bit weird at the edges and the lack of 120p recording. Let’s see what comes out in the next few months before I start my road trip from the UK down to Cappadocia in Turkey on a motorbike.
Thanks for the kind words Jamie. Yes the lack of 120p is a shame. The warping in the corners on wide lens stabilisation is definitely better on the S5II than the previous model. I have a video on my CZcams page from the Kimberley Coast and most of that was shot with the Sigma 14-24mm on the S5II. With a look. Holds up pretty well. They're really such different cameras though. Fundamentally they feel so different and put you into a creative space that is not the same. This is why I say, get the camera you love instead of the one someone told you is technically better :)
I have watched a lot of review videos the last few days and this is the only one I thumbed up because you addressed some issues with that Sony camera which crosses over to their other cameras as well. Sony used to be renowned for bad UI and poor quality as well but I don't see really huge improvements. I've had a number of things break on Sony cameras. So much so that my last failure is the last straw. I used Canon cameras for many years before mirrorless came along and never had a single issue. I'm looking at Lumix now. I might pick up an older S1 because at the moment I'm doing more photography. The S1s are dirt cheap. If that goes well I'll look to Lumix for future buys. I use a lot of vintage manual focus lenses so the weak S1 autofocus won't be huge issue for much of what I'm doing at the moment. It has a lovely EVF for manual focus. I do want to do more video which I had initially got into Sony for. I'm not impressed enough with Canon or Nikon mirrorless in general yet at least for reasonable priced cameras. I wish Nikon had concentrated on a Z6III instead of that retro Zf thing which is like a fashion accessory.
No matter how good the autofocus is with Sony, there are a number of other issues which cause you lose shots or you actually get a complete failure. I also think that the small diameter Sony mount will limit their ability to keep improving IBIS whereas the other companies with their newer wider mounts will keep improving and they are slowly catching up with autofocus. The newer system on Lumix looks like a great start with phase detect.
Thanks for the comments and I think you've covered the options well. Have run a lot of workshops over the years and I only see two brands consistently have failures - Sony and Olympus. My LUMIX cameras get a rough ride and they cope really well. No camera is perfect, but it sounds like you've done your research. 👍
@@EwenBellMy old Gh4 had a crack on the outer shell, a couple of spots like burned pixel clusters (which showed up in certain conditions), and I still used it and even sold it towards the end. My Gh5 is working fine after a few years with me, and I don’t know how many prior my bought, just the grip on the cards’ cover gave away, an easy fix.
I really hope my S5 II X will be as reliable as those, or even half of those: I’d be happy the same.
The S5ii is a great camera, but the autofocus and lack of uncropped 4k 60, never mind 4k 120 (the latter of which is my favourite thing about the ZVE1, I just went to Disney and did a video where I shot it all the time.) ruled it out.
I do however have regular ‘hot pixels’ appearing on the Sony, only visible in dark environments at high ISO. The pixel mapping runs almost every time it starts up, but these pixels can appear mid shoot. Check yours out, let it warm up with 20 mins of shooting, maybe a bit of 60 or 120, then take it in a dark room. Then look on a computer monitor- hot pixels appear all the time ! No reviewer mentions this.
That's interesting information and I will give that a go. I agree that pixel mapper function comes up a lot and you have to wonder why that is. Hot pixels makes sense. 👍
Hello, very nice video! I have two questions about your camera, the Sony ZV-E1:
What about overheating at 4K 120 fps?
What is the risk of only having one SD card slot? Could the video be lost if there is a card error and you don't have a copy?
Do you recommend this camera for professional Videography? I would be grateful for your answers as an experienced person with this camera.
Hello. I've never once had the ZVE1 get too hot. Not after months of travel in the Himalayas, and not when filming at 4K for an hour in the studio. I can feel it get hot, but it hasn't failed on me so far. I think either the S5II or the ZVE1 are both excellent for professional work. Log gamma for 10-bit 422 at full-frame is my baseline for quality and they both deliver results. Let's add teh LUMIX S9 into that list too, such a great little unit.
My golden rule is "buy the camera you love". Don't worry so much about the tech specs. Go try out the menu, try out the buttons, and see how it feels in your hands. And get the one that makes you excited to use it. Then learn how to get the best out of the camera you really enjoy working with.
Vielen Dank
Loved some of the video within, especially from Bhutan (using the ZV E1). No perfect camera it appears, often hard to beat Sony at video, but do love the way Panasonic designs their cameras. I’m largely in a mft format and now considering a G9ii, but do wish Panasonic would make some smaller cameras once again (with new features). Still, the FF work from either of these cameras does look a bit richer. Great video!
Thanks Gordon! I totally agree that a smaller G9 would be great. Used to love the GX85 but that's now 7 years old. Fingers crossed for an update!
Very nice review of both cameras with a bit of a different approach. I owned the Panasonic S5 for a short time. I loved the Image Quality and the look of both photos and videos. So many features compared to sony cameras. But, the AF was lacking and i had the hardest time seperating video and photo settings, so i ended up taking hundreds of underexposed photos with vlog profile on an important trip. Now i have a ZV-E1 and things are different. AF is awesome, image quality not really better in my eyes.
But i have to say once you get used to the menu its really not as bad as you say. You can set the saved custom modes on a Custom Button like C1 for example and from there easily switch between user profiles and its als nicely seperated between photo and video so you can have each 6 profiles (3 on camera, 3 on sd card) for photo and video. I have to say it was easier to get into the sony menu system for me than the panasonic one. Still i love the feel and feature rich Lumix Cameras and maybe will get another one, one day.
Yes the original S5 was a generation behind on AF. Glad you're enjoying the ZV-E1, it really is a fun camera.
I actually don't mind the 12mp for stills even - There's a look you get from the lower pixel density that is reminiscent of the DSLR days :)
@@EwenBell Yes that is true! Reminds me of my Nikon D90 back then, 12MP and i made some of my greatest photos with that camera. I actually use the ZV-E1 a lot for photography and it works nicely. Only for wildlife i sometimes wished i could crop a bit more. Other than that it's a nice sensor, Astro works really well with it too since the sensor is great in low light.
Thank you for this video. Currently stuck on making the decision for either of them. What did you use to shoot this video?
The studio recording was done on the Lumix S5II (+Sigma 35mm F1.2). The S5II AF works well for interview settings, has been reliable and easy to setup. Good enough to record at F1.2. Obviously no worries about overheating either :) I definitely prefer the Lumix in the studio.
Thanks for the comparison between the two cameras. Nice footage from Bhutan. Hope that when Panasonic releases the S1 II / S1R II / S1H II / ??? they will have improved the autofocus over the AF in the S5 II. (And of course, 4k 60p in full frame.)
No doubt they will. Very excited to get a look at the G9II soon and see if they've tweaked the phase detect a bit. Have seen some encouraging signs from other CZcams channels.
And Panasonic usually upgrade the older models via firmware update, so their cameras tends to have a longer life than their counterparts. The Gh5 is still quite usable thanks to all the things they added and changed through the years
The s5 low light noise is the main reason I sold it. I got the zv-e1 and it's great for casual shooting. One day when I don't care about spending money or too much clutter I will get the s5iix.
I've been shooting low-light with the original S5 for a couple of years and it's dual-ISO is amazing. Same for the S5II and S5IIX. I explain the dual ISO of the Lumix and Sony models at 17:44...
czcams.com/video/AqnKqavYi98/video.htmlsi=PmuxpL5a7KEDZvAE&t=1065
Great review Ewen. I strayed from my usual Panasonic brand to get the Sony ZV-E1 because of the 60fps and 120fps with little to no crop. Thanks for the recommendation on the Tamron 35-150 it wasn't on my radar. I'd love to see a short clip taken with the ZV-E1 shot with the Tamron lens.
Thanks David! I should have marked the clips clearly in the video, but most of the black hat dancers in that review were shot with the Tamron. I have a little more info on my website for that lens too, can recommend!
ewenbell.com/blog/Tamron_35-150mm_F/2-2.8_Di_III_VXD
I know no one wants to concede but I had to move from Sony to LUMIX for my Applications. I thought I would have “some” regrets but multiple S5 ii later…. I honestly have none.
There's just immense value and flexibility in the LUMIX family. They're hitting above their weight.
Lumix S5IIX have a 422 HQ on SSD, little bit better ibis, then in ZV-E1, but terrible rolling shutter, no 120fps in 4K, 4k 60p crop 1.5x.
ZV-E1 - Low light monster, best rolling shutter, better AF and 4K 120 fps.
I've never seen the S5IIX so didn't include that in my comparison. They're both great cameras, but in different ways. Have to be super careful with ISO on the ZVE1 because until you hit 12800 there's a lot of noise at higher ISO. Can catch you out until the high gain circuit kicks in. The AF on the Sony is just amazing though.
@@EwenBell Rule №1 of filmmaking - film only on native ISO at any camera.
P.S. ND filters helps to you.
S5IIX is the same camera(with some extra options), you can upgrade your S5II to S5IIX specs for 200$ on official website.
Hey Ewan, great video. What filter are you using at 18:40? Thank you
These are the Okko filters and I love them! I tried so many versions of magnetic filters and finally found these guys.
ewenbell.com/blog/OKKO_Magnetic_Filters_Review
@@EwenBellThank you for sharing
Thank you for this comparison..and the technical light you put on sony's menu system...but i"am sorry to say that this music doesn't fit at all with the beautful images and the places you were filming on...
Sometimes my music choices are hit and miss, sorry! I try to mix it up a little :)
Thank you for the informative video. I’m interested in the S5II but would you be able to comment on the exposure being boosted during half press on the shutter in photography mode which is done to aid the autofocus rather than show you a correct exposure from what other people have been reporting. I would find this incredibly distracting, or is this something you eventually get used to? Many thanks.
Hey Zeeshan :) Honestly can't say I've heard about any exposure boosting issues. I've spent a lot of time in the past 12 months shooting stills with the S5II and just love it. I find the live view very much "what you see is what you get".
I suggest you walk into a store and just try it out for yourself, see how you like it. See if the menu is good or just not your style. See how it feels in the hand. My general advice for cameras is to pick the one you love, not the one some dude on the internet says is technically better :)
@@EwenBell Wise words indeed, thank you for your swift response. You have gained a subscriber. Have you had any experience with the 20-60 mm kit lens. Keen to hear your opinion on this lens.
I have a few of the 20-60mm in fact, because each of my S5 and S5II bodies came with that kit lens! It's actually very sharp and hits above its weight. I like shooting everything at F2, so I avoid this lens for that reason. "Normal" people however don't seem to shoot everything at F2 :) I used it a lot when I first got the S5 and it delivered great stuff (But at bigger f-stops). I always have in my travel kit as my backup lens.@@ZeeshanKhan-kk7qd
Sold my A7IV for a Lumix S5iix, and after two months sold my Lumix for the ZVE1, zero regrets. Lumix kinda sucks. Its image is just soft in a weird way, the dynamic range is definitely lower, the lenses are worse, and all those stand out video features are useless. 6k Open Gate is locked to h.265 and Long GOP 200mbps, meanhwile you can do standard 4k at 600mbps in All Intra, effectively making 6k open gate useless when the bit rate creates a better image than the resolution, and the aspect ratioeans youll crop to 16:9 anyway, losing a fair amount of that resolution anyway. So the Lumix's biggest advantages on paper arent really beneficial, so the Sony advantages clearly put it superior to Lumix.
Also i completley disagree with the menus and usability. The Lumix is labyrinthian.there are way more tiny little options that you can only access through the menu and cant aet to a quick menu or button. Also, the S5ii is not nearly as good at hybrid photo-video coverage because the Sony remembers and separates every single setting between photo and video. I can switch in an instant and go from manual white balance standard color profile to SLog3 and auto white balance with a slightly cool and meganta leaning, with a literal switch of a button. Literally one second. The Lumix cannot do that. I was covering an event and was going back and forth between photo and video and took a bunch of photos in VLog, also the white balance carries over. Once i realized halfway through the event i made sure to correct it each time, and it really slowed me down and I missed shots on a fashion runway.
Cheers so much great comparison however Sony's made to be pre set up before going out and take photographs or filming if you know what ttpe of photos youl'll be taking or films you'll be making and yes I agree people need to decide what's most important autofocus or stabilisation bit will add lens selection and for me I believe that’s Sony
Look are subjective 😊❤
Thanks for dropping a line. As a travel photographer I rarely have the luxury of knowing what I'll be shooting before I step out the door. Life comes at you fast!
I'm not sure where this idea that the Sony is "made to be pre set up" apologies, that's a silly idea. It's a vlogging centric hybrid camera versatility is part of it's the hybrid design philosophy, meaning if they designed it to be pre-set up it would be antithetical to that idea. I don't buy that at all. But I do believe it simply represents some poorly thought-out design choices.
Do we really need to put down Sony cameras to talk about how great the S5II is… again😢?
Neither camera is perfect, but have enjoyed my time with both. As I said in the video :)
*You bought the wrong Sony* :p Never had a problem with settings on my a6700
A7 SIII works a charm
We'll have to disagree on the menu system! But you might enjoy seeing what poster sized prints look like off the ZV-E1. It delivers on image, ain't no doubt...
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No pop up flash or built-in forget these too cameras there so big not light weight