Luffyâs New Form is More Powerful Than You Think!
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Afro luffy is stronger..
True đ
Facts.
Facts
You are forgetting about my boy water Luffy
AND manly
I wholeheartedly believe Moria is an endgame ally of the Straw Hats. He's developed as a potential dark timeline Luffy if they sailed to Wano unprepared and lost, and we don't know what he was like before that. Even after Moria lost his entire crew he still didn't give up, and his turn in tactics was explained as being because he cared for his crew and didn't want to lose them again, that drive and caring combined makes Moria in some ways even more Luffy-like than Blackbeard. I also like to point out when it comes to Moria's low strength that he is the definition of out of practice, and we have no idea how close to the strength of his generation at present he was in his prime since he largely just...stopped progressing in order to bide his time and raise his Shadow Army
I like this ..... Moria highly underrated imo
He's stupid. He didn't need to fight the straw hats. He should have just let them waste their time on Oars. At day break, they'd all be dead
@@NphiniT Technically true, would've been a big dumb end to the series though
â@@NphiniT I mean, unless they found shelter. Remember, there were a ton of people living on the island without shadows. Moria probably let them, because if they died, he would lose their shadows.
@@derrickmiles5240 By the way, why did his abilities work at marineford? đ
If nightmare Luffy had the combined experience of 100 people including some experienced marines, wouldn't it be likely that he had haki as well.
ofc, more than likely considering how prominent haki is to the new world
learning haki puts you into captain or vice admiral position so the said skilled swordsmen shadow along with other may have possesed haki but there were more people in luffy [pause] that didnt knew haki thats why it would overwhelm him, like how whitbeard couldnt use haki cause he was too old and overwhelmed
The feat of him completely negging Oarsâ punch couldâve had haki on it, because before the time skip Haki wasnât shown and you only knew someone was using it if they said it explicitly. Nightmare Luffy having haki wouldnât be out of place, and would explain how much damage he did to Oars.
That what I was thinking, some of those shadows mightâve had Haki.
I don't think that haki experience can be learned by absorbing shadows. I think it's something you need hands on training with for a long time before being able to replicate, even if you "know" how to use it.
Cannot believe people willingly skip arcs like thriller bark, favorite arc by far
Yesssssss
This legitimately the first time I've seen someone claiming thriller bark is his favorite arc. Thriller back is indeed under appreciated.
I skipped it because nothing happened in the arc.
i dont understand why anyone would skip ANY arc tbh...
Honestly almost every aspect of it is so underrated, sure the middle part is really slow, and some of the character designs are acquired tastes, but it has some crazy peaks, and SHs vs. Oars/Moria is in my top 3 fights, team fights are just awesome, wish we had more of them. Showcases both the best and worst of Oda.
Crazy thought...
What if Rocks D Xebec was the previous owner of Morias fruit and the reason why it took both roger and garp to take him down is because he was eating all the shadows of his crew that lost the davey back fights?
Yea. I would actually love that
But then why didnât he use big momz Kaido,shiki,and whitebeards?
I can kinda see that
@@coyburney1048 Bc they are his heavy hitters, taking away their shadow will make him the only heavy hitter which is a major nerf, he would have to solo the whole marine and the roger pirate which is extremely hard
@@coyburney1048 taking the shadow doesn't mean you can use the df. oars was only able to use luffy's df through moria manipulating his shadow, so as far as replicating dfs goes, the most they could do is replicate the mere shape of zoans
Also take this into account if Moria is working with the Strawhats. When luffy took the nightmare form, he did that without Moria's permission or knowledge. He had to hold the shadows in himself with his own willpower. If Moria is working with him in tandem, he might be able to do that work for him, letting him be able to more easily retain his own personality. Maybe even an indefinite period of time, as long as Moria is there to keep it up.
His strongest move as of the latest chapter is his gear 5th Barjung Gun that is infused with advanced conquerors haki.
& Adv Armament cmon man can't forget that Adv Coc alone wasn't putting down Kaido especially not while he's covered in flame like that
ok,
@@9hundun516 You've got it backwards there, Luffy knew advanced armament going into the fight but learned advanced conquerors thanks to getting hit by Kaido repeatedly lmao
Bajarang gatling gun gonna go hard.
@@thatoneguyftl2530 Its so funny that you said that when me & him are talking about 1 singular attack (bajarang gun) which was infused with both Adv Coc & Adv Arms lmao.... young bull tryna correct something that doesn't need to be corrected
I like that nobody realizes nightmare luffy never used gear 2 or 3 which would greatly multiply his speed and power which could totally level all playing fields
Gear 2 nightmare luffy would go hard
he couldn't go gear 2 because his shadow was taken
â@@liyalee7725 Luffys shadow being taken doesn't mean his powers were taken.
â@@terryabracey237 but the knowledge to know how to do it was
â@@asherbeck4001Wtf do you mean?
Luffy used gear 2 and 3 during his final fight with Moria and did not have his shadow
I will comment that Thriller Bark is actually a severely underrated arc, even though itâs not as good as the two sagas sandwiched in between both. I think the hate thrown its way is more intense than it is warranted. Itâs just really funny.
I watched some guy reacting to it and it is one of the arc that sanji actually calls zoro by his name and he Fucks with the timeline. In the arc he claims he left the Baratier 3 years ago.
I do hope Moria becomes relevant again. I think demonstrating how powerful his devil fruit could be would actually explain why he was Kaido's rival.
If Moria had not lost his way and was able to actually control those 1000 shadows he would have been a force to be reckoned with.
Moria as a support for Blackbeard could be extreme. Imagine Moria infuses Blackbeard with some shadows of his crew. Yes, it would only last 10 minutes, but as a ultimate climax.. That would be really a power to destroy the world.
I am willing to believe that the Moria Luffy fought was not peak Moria, but one who let himself go while he wallowed in negative emotions. The key evidence for me is the Wano flashback showing younger Moria as lean, fit, and most importantly leading his crew from the front. Thriller Bark Moria only resorted to fighting himself when he had no other options.
We're definitely gonna see him soon. Perona literally told Koby "I'll help you escape if you save Moria" Koby has practically escaped so we're about to see big daddy M really soon
@@henrysiemer5320 the entire reason why he got weaker was not because of him letting himself go cause if you compare prime Gecko Moria to present Gecko Moria present Gecko Moria wins in physical strength since he is 5 times bigger than prime Gecko Moria and bulkier the main reason why he got weaker was his abandment in fighting for long time as said before by Jinbei to Gecko Moria "perhaps you should start training more",in conclusion if Gecko Moria was still fighting poeple and honing his skills while building his zombie army after his defeat to kaido he we would be much stronger and even stronger than himself in his prime
@@Tiberium10332 and knowing Blackbeard, he wouldnât hesitate to steal anyoneâs shadow⊠even his crew mates
Liam: "People gives far to much credit to Haki in terms of fighting"
Kaido while fighting Gear 5 Luffy: "HAKI RULES THE WORLD"
Kaido the failed conqueror may not be the best source of information on how to rule.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 well, lets not forget that Oda is the one who is making this statement through Kaido, if we also take in account Kaido's role in the series as someone with a huge amount of battle experience, I think its safe to assume this as true (for now).
@@ismaelpena8555 Characters are fallible, and so is the author. It's also a statement that fairly directly contradicts Kaido's own story... haki was NOT the reason he was able to rule. It wasn't even a relevant factor.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 correct, that's why I said "for now", only Oda can make this statement to be false in the future by introducing an counter-argument from a more reliable character/source.
With the information we have now and the fact that without Haki Luffy was not able to make an scratch to Kaido or any other major character pre-time skip, its safe to say that Haki its really important in terms of fighting.
@@ismaelpena8555 At what point do you imagine anybody who knows haki is not using haki to fight? How would you test the claim that Luffy couldn't hurt Kaido without haki when the baseline assumption is that people who know haki are using it whenever it helps them?
For the record, the literal first interaction between Kaido and Luffy involves Luffy hurting Kaido. And then Kaido retaliating with significantly more impact.
If Luffy today could either use one or the other, taking in all those shadows may even make him weaker. If it's diluting his own personality and that's what drives his haki and awakening, he may end up with a much stronger and more informed brain base, but a less focused set of powers. Basically, jack of all trades and master of none. If it doesn't affect him at all, then why not both?
Haki is supposedly all about willpower. So I believe he could affirm himself and let his personality run free no matter how much we try to dilute it.
if gear 5 makes luffy not stop laughing, if we mix this with the opposite effect, they would probably nulify each other, meaning that luffy would be normal with haki and way more stronger than gear 5 because all shadows in new world would be completly different then trhiller bark, meaning a way more stronger raw nightmare luffy and even more stronger because would be a gear 5 basse luffy multiplied by the capabilitys of the shadows he gets, keep in mind, the amount of shadows you can absorb is equal to how much your will is, trhiller bark luffy could bear 100, time skip i think would be double, wano luffy with advanced emperor's haki could possibly get to 500 shadows and gear 5 i think can do double it, meaning that it would be like giant Moria with a few more shadows being from new world and not from there where he picked all of those, the shadows from wano would give way more power to luffy, gear 5 nightmare luffy possibly would be the last form, because in base would be giant just like the gear 5 giant form, and with gear 5 it would make luffy become not giant but on the size bigger than entire islands, but well, all that could posssibly be wrong, nothing is for sure
â@@animeworld5847but the concept of trapping shadows into his body contradicts one aspect of becoming Luffy, Because Luffy is free, Luffy is Liberation, Then ba dum ba dum the Drums of Liberation.
Thats not how stuff works bro... if you add a lot of skill to a lot of stuff that doesn't mean that you loose all your other skills đ
You know something called logic?
Also, a lot of shadows would still have each its interest, which means that basically they wouldnt all be fighting as a group, but individually, it would be a royal rumble. Luffy's personality is really defined, he wouldnt lose his shit. Wouldn't make any sense at all đ
â@@jefrey488 this makes a lot more sense.
2:29 I wonder if Shakky did know the secret to eternal youth and made herself forever young like Dr. Kureha had.
I could've sworn Boundman perception-blitzed Doffy. I distinctly remember Doffy attempting to hit an incoming-Luffy with an attack, only for Luffy to effectively disappear and reappear behind him landing a Rhino Schneider. I don't remember how it was portrayed in the manga, but the anime showed Doflamingo completely unaware of Luffy's presence right up until he got hit.
Yeah he just thinks bound man is slower because he doesnât realize that Navi and ussop people with barely any good perception feats at that point couldnât perceive him moving and bound man when scaled to stronger opponents oda makes him easier to see
And he blitzed kat without future sight
I do think thereâs a scenario/concept iâve always wondered about, and thatâs about giving Luffy the shadow of someone that really, genuinely trusts him with their life, like the straw hats. If the actual people love Luffy so much theyâre willing to sail into Hell with him, then I imagine itâs possible the shadows might recognize him and be willing to work with him as long as needed, and only return once Luffy allows them to leave.
From the hunter channel, didnt realise you had a one piece one, love the vids!
I allwase get so hyped for a new food from u bro
With the whole imagination power of gear 5 Iâd love to see gear 5 remember how it felt to be nightmare luffy and replicated it. A hellish version of gear 5 would be amazing
Moriaâs fruit actually has so much potential uses if he was as creative as luffy, since if he can alter the shapes of shadows, then could he turn them into weapons and use them? He could do a hell of a lot more than he has been shown to do if he was more creative
Hey Liam i noticed that your thumbnails are getting super good, great job man
The parallel of Nightmare Luffy as an anti-Nika is quite disturbing if some theoris about Oz be Joy Boy (and so the former Nika) are true because it would mean that other Zoro VS Ryuma, we had another Past VS Present fight due the Moria's powers
Thereâs a great theory that the 9 God Knights have Joyboyâs crewâs shadows inside them and they will be the final matchup for the Straw Hatsđ€Ż
Love the video and keep up the great work Liam
That was an awesome video
Since Luffy has trained his conquerors Haki a lot, I doubt he'd be psychologically influenced by the shadows at all. Just like how Moria only got srtonger by absorbing shadows I think with a big enough gap in power between you and the shadows you absorb, there's no chance any of their personalities come through to the surface.
i was just rewatching thriller bark, nightmare luffy was soooo coooool
10:36 Moria can't take the shadow of someone whose haki is stronger than his because we now know that haki can nullify devil fruit powers
Thanks for giving me a reason to to review all the characters we've seen since Moria came back into the story and make sure they do have their shadows.
Tbh, I think nightmare luffy could come back in a different form such as when luffy is angry. I mean Luffy for most parts is happy but they have been instance where rage & despair drives the wheel such as the time against Kaido so I believe that when Luffy is enraged or despair's the Sun God will manifest in a different form similar to that of nightmare luffy.
I had that Idea in my head for a while now, wouldn't it be cool to see a Bound-man-esque form but mixed up with the physical amps and changes ?
Perhaps Gear fifth's form turns dark rather than white when Luffy transforms while holding negative feelings/intentions (and he loses his signature smile)
Sometimes we forget that Moria once challenged Kaido for supremacy. Granted, perhaps not prime Kaido but this is a stronger version of Kaido than the one Rocks let in his crew, with the addition of the dragon fruit.
Dude that impenetrable joke was hilarious!!!đđđ you sir win in one piece break downs đđŒđđŒđđŒ
I love your videos
If Pudding were to awaken her DF, could she make Luffys body "remember" it's nightmare Luffy form and allow Luffy to transform back into nightmare Luffy even without moria?
No. That makes no sense.
I really hope we get a flashback to prime Moria and why he could rival kaido. His power is extremely unique and he can boost his power at will.
He didn't know he could boost his powers with shadows until he saw Luffy do it
FYI: A vomitorium is the entrance/exit tunnels of ancient Roman theatres. It the people themselves who spew forward, not the stomach content of the people. đ
Love your program yo. Had a couple of thoughts: In the Ape Concert episodes, is Rapanui part Lunarian? He performs some amazing acts.
I love that Shadow Luffy and ancient giants become somewhat of a benchmark of power.
Shadow Luffy stomps Oars.
Doflamingo stomps Oars Jr.
Gear 4th Luffy stomps Doflamingo.
Gear 4th Luffy stomps a Wano Ancient Giant.
That's the only time being Blue-Balled is actually good
8:57 I never thought of the possibility of Rocks D. Xebec being the Fusion of one hundred 7 years olds, nice theory you got theređđ
Nightmare Luffy just went Nah.... that is best line. I love Liam's comedy.
Chapter Title: The will of D.
Chapter begins where last chapter left off, Imu revealed themselves in front of Cobra and the five elders
Imu is still a silhouette, Cobra is still in shock at what heâs seeing but notices the gorosei are kneeling
Imu asks Cobra if he really wants to know what the will of D is, Cobra confirms that the letter passed down along the nefetari family holds such information but he wanted to test the gorosei himself
Imu is not surprised by this as they even mention Lili was characteristic of doing such a thing
Cobra demands to know what happened to Lili and Imu declares âLili failed and couldnât even stay loyal to a friend despite craving their help in a time of needâ
Cobra doesnât understand this and asks foe elaboration but Imu has had enough and gets up off the throne and walks towards Cobra
At this point, however, Sabo barges into the room at views what is unfolding
Imu stares at Sabo and is reminded of a person they once knew presumably (we see the person and they look alot like Sabo)
Cobraâs wheelchair turns to particles leaving Cobra on the ground
Imu, the gorosei, and Sabo all stand over Cobra, take off their pants and run a train on him. Imu grunts and utters âBet the letter didnât say anything about this will of Dâ They all continue to rail Cobra and give him backshots
How long did it take just too write this amazing story?†It
@@aymanmiri111 đfr
Gear 5th Luffy: "This isn't even my Final Form!"
It's so rare to see you talking about the always polemic power levels
I love one piece
I just came down into the comments to see how many people corrected the Vomitorium thing and so far none! Good job Nakama! Good job staying on topic!
Hello can you please make a video on, top 10 strongest devil fruit users vs 10 strongest haki users please, the current manga characters, not the ones who have already become donuts
Video 210 17 months
I love the videos and I hope your day was great. Keep up the great work.
4:15 Woah there! watch out man there are kids who won't hesitate to say "Luffy can stop time" after watching this
Nightmare Luffyâs durability was tested a little. Just before his last attack, Oars was trying to hit Luffy with a stomp and Luffy shrugged it off continuing his attack like nothing ever happened to him.
sagas in minutes next part pleaseâ€
I agree, If Moria took only hundredths of shadow he can easy sweep Luffy but he decided to take thousands which he cannot handle.
Guys, guys. Nightmare Luffy with all of the Strawhats shadows. Game over.
That big mom joke thođđđ
Could Blackbeards fruit negate the die by sunlight effect of someone robbed their shadow by engulfing an area in darkness, if yes he can build a very dangerous army with hostages in that area fighting to protect him till it gets dark.
I only know this bc i rewatched the doffy vs gear 4th fight but bound man can be super quick. He dodged overheat and then suddenly appeared next to doflamingo to kick him.
7:00 bro that was sooo uncalled for.... true. but uncalled for
Nice video, but I noticed a discrepancy. Multiple times you said nightmare luffy had the experience of 101 people, counting luffy. But luffys shadow was in oars at the time. If luffy just got his own shadow back, that would be a MASSIVE powerup on its own. But if the goofball that is gecko moria was able to manage a thousand shadows, I'm guessing that current luffy would probably get a 1 million shadow form.
Why would getting his shadow back power him up though? You only get a powerup from OTHER shadows because they give you experience that is not your own.
It's not like any of the Strawhats lost their abilities upon losing their shadow.
I made a post about this on reddit 4 years ago. I'm glad people are having the same thought
5:04 Forgive me if I come across as a smart ass but you could call the red line a continent since it goes around the world like a ring
6:50 and the wimpy big guy from the funk brothers, he was able to ignore a haki-infused hasshoken battle axe completely while cowering, nothing compared to the big people but still there since he wasn't using haki at all
I couldn't even imagine that the day when Liam starts power scaling one piece characters
This feels like a shot fired at Oharaâs âWhat of Luffy Ate Other Devil Fruitsâ video.
it may also be possible that nightmare was the catalyst for the pre awakening of luffy haki due to all that knowledge and experience from the 100 shadows maybe that gave him like a multiplier in how he thinks outside the box with ways to both use and defeat opponents judging by how he was able to use gear 5th so well to be able to body kaido so in a sense nightmare is the reason for luffys current op prowess in combat
Saying that G4 is slow when he went from the top of Doflamingos castle to where Doflamingo got punched before he could even react is wild
you know ive been wondering why did you stop making videos for the devil fruit encyclopedia i would love to see more of those just saying like maybe a video on some of the newer fruits in the manga or ones you just haven't covered yet just saying and it would be cool to see what your take on awakenings for the fruits would be
The destroy continents thing may be related to oars being joyboy
I like how he made big mom look like a character in chowder 7:00
Blackbeard with this fruit could potentially combine it with his darkness logia in a terrifying way. Like if Blackbeard use his âblack holeâ ability that sucks everything in how many shadows could he store inside? Potentially infinite or at least tens of thousands? Imagine nightmare Blackbeard with 10,000 shadows throwing quake quake punches..
For some reason the thumbnail makes me think gecko moria is going to join luffy's crew
that Moria guy also happens to be convinently held in the place controlled by that one guy who's able to nullify devil fruit powers, which, you know, would also prevent the sun god transformation
5:14 đź omg I canât believe it!
I think moria could join the crew as a support kinda like chopper who supports and sometimes fights
That penetration pun was outta pocket đđđ
11:00
Thus morphing him into what I can only describe as BEEG BEEG Chungus
To the point of Oars being the continent puller and no continents existing in OP, except the Red Line...
Could it be that he pulled continents apart and relocated pieces of it? Thus creating the weird islands only world we know?
Or alternatively, could he have somehow put the Red Line together with pieces of other continents?
Idk if this makes any sense whatsoever, I'm pretty high right now. Cool video though. Lol
I never read thriller bark, I only watched it, so itâs really cool to see that gear 5 v Kaido literally took that oars panel verbatim, just like gear 5 luffy vs Awakened Lucci
"Boundman is not particularly quick"
Doflamingo would like a word.
1., I don't think Moria's shadow posession would work on the top tiers (scibukai+), it is likely haki dependent like Law's fruit powers. If Moria could get anyone's shadow, he would have become the pirate king long time ago. Also notice he had been doing the pirate business for quite some years when we met him, but still his biggest capture was Luffy and they were celebrating quite much that they could get a 300m berry bounty guy - I think it is because Luffy was the most powerful guy they could capture who did not have the haki to counter the DF power and they knew they would probably not find a stronger foe, hence they decided to put his shadow into Oars.
2., I don't think shadows can have negative or 0 effect. The way I understood is that other than experience, the raw power of the person's shadow is added to the person who consumes the shadows. Note that most of the shadows were regular soldiers/pirates/ppl, still made Luffy way stronger. Long story short, Usopp's shadow would probably count as a +1 regular person's strength.
3., G4 luffy has at least a comparable raw power to nightmare, do not forget that 1 kong gun sent Doffy through half of an island through terrain, while he was blocking the attack too. So the only downside I see is that g4 Luffy actually needs to charge/punch.
4., G4 bman's speed can also be comparable. Don't forget he basically teleported to doflamingo who did not even notice geting hit by Rhino Schneider, also similar stuff happened with Leo Bazoka.
5:00 well, the Red Line is a (The) continent, and it has many types of weather/seasons, almost as if many different islands were smashed into eachother. Maybe Ancient Giants created the Red Line?
(Or, counter Theory: all the islands were once part of the Red Line, but broken off and moved by Ancient Giants.)
With syndrys plate hating and sanjis cooking best counter would be if you just make everything in bowls.đ
Just rewatched Thriller Bark with a buddy as he makes his way through the series, and yeah Nightmare Luffy was absurd, I genuinely think he may be able to go toe to toe with Kaido for a small amount of time
What's that poster behind you from?
8:30 Is that an image of Porto - Portugal?
Don't forget to mention, if nightmare luffy were to contain a few shadows of strong haki users, then he'd gain the ability of using haki himself. So that's how nightmare luffy can counter bound man's haki
The Big mom shadeâŠ.. lolđ
Oh my god your Big Mom drawing is based on Endive from Chowder XD
Moria's power is dope. It's just he has to obtain the shadow first.
This is the earliest ive ever been đź
I found nightmare luff acting figure in Philippines 2017 in the Ayala mall. It was amazing. I thought it was gear 4 back then but nope but itâs crazy af and could be brought back. Maybe Geko Moria is apart of IMU type shit!
I know this is random. But did anyone else notice we already seen luffys fruit awakened ? In film red when he's fighting with tot music.
4:10 good subtle JoJo reference
8:11 what about the Rhino Schneider on Doflamingo?
I'm a min in and i'm really enjoying this đđđ
It is crazy that blackbeard's crew did not take moria's devil fruit. I do not mean just for themselves but i think it would have sold very high given its potential, Plus using this devil fruit to gain fast access to people's skills seems like something blackbeard would want on his side.
Ohara also uploaded
Now that you have invoked the continental context, will you make a video on "One Piece Blood-stained Serpent" that dorry and broggy spoke on little garden arc end...?
7:07 y'all wild for that đ
I can see luffy eating blackbeard darkness like oh yeah Iâve eaten shadows before
In terms of physical strength i guess Big Mom can be brought up. She was walking casually underground
Maybe Oars title as the continent pusher isnt meant to be interpreted as he pushed the continents together, but rather apart, as you stated, there arent really continents, unless you count the red line.