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The CZcamsr Who Was Forced To Be A Doll | Venus Angelic: The Living Doll
Today we take a look at Venus Angelic, a youtuber who rose to fame with her mom (Margaret Palermo) years ago for dressing in her weird style. Her look is inspired by Japanese fashion and made her become one of the fastest growing females during her time, but slowly as years went on things began to get weird...
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This video gave me so many problems, but I'm glad you all like it :)
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*Outro Song:* I'm Saying Goodbye by Loving Caliber
Cool video
Frank Henzel true that
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“the sinister twist of this story is that venus got her fame by playing a doll, but in reality, behind the scenes, she was an actual doll to her mother” damn.
Is this mad father? more like mad mother if you know what I'm talking about you'll get it umm it's a rpg game just type mad father Game and you'll get it
@@kianaelle I love that game
Kiana elle the nostalgia 😭😭
I don't understand what the hell this "doll" stuff is coming form. She is a lolita, NOT a doll. The fuck.
lol I remember I used to watch her in 2010 and just thinking she was an innocent weeb
“Calm down Barbra. Your fake tan is orange. *you have NO room to talk.* “
OK bre
That was so Savage 😂
iconic!!
PERIODT
Gosh i hate my name... nearly everyone at school makes fun of my name ;^;
Just a reminder to you guys that the reason Prmink hasn’t posted in a year is because he’s at college, he hasn’t been kidnapped or anything like that.
oh thank god
Jesus Tysm for saying I was so scared 😭😭
It's been a year bro ;-; it's 2022
Oh thank god lol thanks
oh
I met Venus in person before.
I was working at a convention recruiting students for language lessons and my ex was working as a photographer (for the con and for Venus)
Myself, my ex and Venus were all in an elevator with her mother and the vibes coming off her were nothing short of anger.
Even when my ex was taking photos the mother was immensely controlling. It was a weird vibe
That’s how narcs are smh they cannot control their rage or anger, especially in a happy environment with other happy people around it just seeps out of them they can’t control it 😂
Oh wow
I have a theory for the mother’s anger: she’s jealous of her daughter getting all that attention. Some females just never grow up
@dearkarmaihavealistofnarci4976 this stranger competition is actually surprisingly common in mother-daughter relationships. Daughter is younger etc and gets all the attention
@Lena-cz6re Fair point. Even Cindy Crawford admitted that she sometimes envies her daughter Kaia.
But in Margo's case, it borders on the ABNORMAL and ABUSIVE.
its devastating how her whole teenage years were ruined by her horrible mother
Why didn't she call child support to get her parents sent away
@@robbycooper6787 it's different in Switzerland or the other countries she lived in
@@robbycooper6787 it really isn't that easy
Especially since what is a cute little hobby turned into a toxic lifestyle.
Idk if making thousands of dollars (probably quite a lot more) counts that much for "ruined teenage years." Obviously her mom took it too far, but it was a great idea in the first place for the fame and money.
Venus was never a doll, she was a puppet.
dEeP👏
Exactly
HowAboutLaur Mai
Op dam.
Woah this cut deep
Sheesh the accuracy
UPDATE: She recently had a relapse of some sort? And she apparently … tried to harm herself by jumping in front of a bus. Terribly sad I know. I was so in shock that I took screenshots to fully read and comprehend what she posted.
And now: July 30th 2022
it seems she’s had a fiancé, but broke it off (?) and was chasing host ‘boyfriends’ and making them fight over her.
And the last I saw on her instagram story was that she was going to attempt to get help at one of Japan’s institutions?
I don’t remember where, but she said it is one of Japan’s best institutions.
Thank uu
Is this about Venus or her mom? So is she no longer with Manaki?
I dont know if that is true, but with a mother like that, who can blame her. People like her mother, can really destroy their children.
This is so heartbreaking to me, because as she was escaping her mother, I was doing the same thing! My mother is manipulative and abusive and also tried to isolate herself and her children by moving to a different country. I was so lucky to receive help from my boyfriend's mother, who arranged for me to move in with my grandparents back home. Where would I be without this help?? Margaret used her daughter and when her usefullness expired she left her all alone in the world. How can mothers turn out so cruel and spiteful?
@@mii481 lmao yall so dramatic
"when in reality, behind the scenes she was an actual doll to her mother." That gives me chills just hearing that.
"When an abuser can't control you anymore, they try to control how other people see you."
👏👏👏👏👏👏
Damn right
The old smear campaign. Social predators have no limits on how low, petty and monstrous they can get.
Yup. Im a lawyer and I can spend days talking about all the bs I’ve had to clean up.
@@kathrynh685 make videos lol! Lawyers always have interesting stuff to tell
As someone who wears lolita I can relate so much to " she's dressing like a doll, and they're acting like she's selling meth under that dress". My dress dont hurt nobody please chill.
It was pretty rude to tell Venus she'd be "horrified" if her daughter dressed like her..
@@yasminchan7425 "OH NO NOT THE FRILLS, WHERE DID I GO WRONG FOR MY DAUGHTER TO GET HOOKED ON THE FRILLS!!!"
Seriously! There are so many worse & actually dangerous things a young teen or even tween could be involved in that you should be more concerned about and be giving more coverage to!! Sheesh!! 🤦🏼♀️
Let me catch MY son The irony is that look is how almost every woman dresses their little girl before she even has a choice!
never really got that much hate for dressing weird maybe it’s because I’m in an asian and I’m in asia but other than a few teases I didn’t get any hate
The things she was insulting Venus for were so weird 😭 “She has ‘asperger tantrums’” Oh? So your kid is autistic and has meltdowns? Y’know… an uncontrollable and painful to experience stress response? I wonder, as an autistic person myself, what could POSSIBLY be stressing Venus out to make her have meltdowns?
And also, how are YOU the victim of that?? Meltdowns are physically painful as well as mentally and can take days to recover from. At most, she might’ve screamed or hit someone if they tried to grab at her and/or force her down, etc but like, at that point if you grab someone having a meltdown and they kick at you or something you’re still not the victim 😭 Like, not hard to understand if someone’s depressed or crying, etc you don’t just gorilla grip their arm and yank them because they’re not doing what you want at the moment because they’re actively suffering so why would it be different for disabled people LOL?
I know I’m four months late to this comment but as someone with autism thank you for making me feel slightly less shitty about the meltdowns I have had in the past..
Let's be real, the mom probably is autistic too and made Venus into her special interest, which is a thing undiagnosed autistic moms (in denial of being autistic) tend to do. This is such an incredibly sad thing. Hopefully they will both heal from this. You never know. But Venus deserves a better mom, one that takes responsibility for her actions.
people seem to forget that meltdowns can literally be dissociative episodes and are Not just being a bit strange
it's so sad to see Venus struggling with alcohol addiction today, but unsurprising. Her mother essentially destroyed her life and social network. I hope she is able to get back on a safe path soon.
Damn, she was a literal doll behind the scenes. It wasn't an act. Her mom was in complete control and manipulated her emotionally to get her way. Some mothers are just unstable asf.
Kap_DP and fathers..
She wasn't a doll she was basically a puppet
she was no doll, she was a puppet.
Sam yup
Kap_DP yup
"calm down Barbara, your fake tan is orange, you have no room to talk"
this send me
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol
I ended up crying bc of this
I’m replaying that part to laugh😂😂😂😂😂😂
it makes sense that she'd have breakdowns, when you go through trauma like that the brain doesn't tend to register or unpack that shit until you're *safe*. her breakdowns likely just mean she's finally safe enough to go through and deal with all she went through before
This is a pretty fair take honestly, when you’re in a fight or flight mode 24/7, your mind and body just does what it can to help you survive but not really process, it all comes down when you finally TRY to live without being in that guarded state for the first time since forever, you’re forced to basically live with the effects of something you haven’t even processed fully.
so true
Yeah so I’ve been following her on Instagram and she has a lot of problems. Alcoholism, unstable mood, severe depression, but I mean can anyone be surprised
The mom is a perfect narcissist. She couldn't control her daughter, so she tried to assassinate her character.
When your creation has a better life than yourself, you start destroying it.
Jealousy is one of the most powerful sins indeed
😥😥😥😥
@@wolfrayne8355 i hope your ok. Im grateful i was able to leave my mum at 12.
mikvance my mum @ me
@@quinnana6400 sending love i hope your ok 👏👏👏👏👏👏
UPDATE: Her mom is now trying to sue him for this video.
Whaaa......?
good luck with that 💀💀
Wow this video that just provides information on the situation is getting a lawsuit for cyber bullying???
This is the stupidest thing eveR.
of course she is
I'm having an email argument with her and sent her this video... oops
What a monster of a mom Margret is, she literally didn't want Venus to have any friends, let alone a boyfriend.
I think you should make a second part, things are wild now
The scariest thing about Margaret is that she has a degree in psychology 😳
It's BS. She did some rudimentary online course from a diploma mill in 6 months. She doesn't have a real degree.Margaret lies like a politician.
She is way too dumb for that.
Lots of narcissists do follow a medical pathway although they also lie and over state their qualifications too.
I had a sociology teacher that used his class to mostly bash "The alpha male mentality" and "gonzo porn" while wearing fucking wind charm bracelets and lowkey preaching about how he isn't a bad guy. He was basically spending class time attempting to groom the women in our class by assuming all college men were trash and that he was some sort of messiah.
Some of these people just get into the profession to learn how to master their craft, the one of manipulation that is. Some of the most batshit people dedicate their lives to studying the mind, and others are born with the raw talent to do it.
Even her name suits her
This woman broke her daughter's life. This should be punishable.
I do not get how the mother didn't go to jail.
Bella Magic it should be considered mental abuse
@MyNameIsJufre woah
For some reason parental abusers are only punished by having the child taken away. It's unbelievable. Also, mental abuse is still not officially considered "abuse". Also also, Venus has publically stated that there was a lot of physical abuse as well, she just does not want to talk about it. Also also also, Manaki apparently turned out to also be abusive? At least, Venus has claimed in a now deleted video that she fell in love and got married to an "abuser" because abuse was all she had learned from her mother.
it’s emotional blackmail :(
I feel so bad for Venus. I remember finding her as a young teen and I always could tell something just wasn't right.
idk i had the same obsession as her without any influence from someone else
From what we know it looks like the classic story of a child with a narcissistic/abusive parent. When they come of age they turn to a partner for escape. Unfortunately, it is often an abusive partner, and/or they are both not ready for a serious relationship - the cycle continues. I hope Venus finds her true happiness.
"every children needs a parent, but not every parent needs a child"
Emmaruth marino no parent should “need” a child. Having children is not about adult’s needs. If anything, it’s about a choice to embark in a journey/duty. Completely optional though. (Except in pro-life countries, but that’s another problem)
@@WickedPlaysChannel the use of "needs" instead of say, "shouldn't have children", is just colloquial. What she's saying is not all parents (read: people) should have kids.
So why are they called parents
YES PREACH IT TO THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK SIS
Emmaruth marino
*this quote has been brought to you by the ESL gang*
In a recent Q&A on her channel someone asked “what advice would you give to your 14 year old self?” and Venus said “go to the police.”
That is honestly so sad
gothamcityoongi what’s the name of the channel
Ellie Perry Venus angelic I think
Link please?
ouch 😫
Ellie Perry What do you think it is?
I was part of this subculture heavily in the 2010s and I felt terrible for Venus when all of this went down. The abuse she faced at the hands of her mother is so sad. I hope she's doing better now.
She isn't actually
This is actually textbook narcissistic behaviour. They see their children as an extension of themselves (therefore the seeming "protection" from Maneki), but if these children cut them off they become the new enemy and therefore get all the hatred. It's what my father did to me
its actually so sad how that woman ruined her child's life at such a young age out of a greed for money and control, so happy to hear Venus is now mostly safe and living her best life.
Oh shit- for a second I thought you were calling THEM a depressed ceiling fan oopsies lmao. Took me a sec to realize that it was their name
Salty Lolita
I don’t know the whole story but she probably married him just to get out of the country and live in Japan???
Idk Venus seems like she sorta cracked and just a little bit off
@Salty Lolita oh dear, I was wrong then, that's really sad. But I do think it is good that she is no longer with her mother. I wish her the best
I mean like if you think of it the same thing is happening to Danielle Cohn rn
The mom literally took out the “victim card” lol
Komorebi No kaidan ni uno reverse card
vcard lmao
It was a trap card now venus has lost 300 life points
「 a b o m i n a t i o n ぞ 」 lmao😂😂😂
They were right though. This CZcamsr sucks.
primink! will you ever think about doing an update on venus? from what i seen, her alcohol addiction got worse which prompted her to post worrying things on her story and manic stuff online such as her “killing” her ex (manaki) and going to jail or losing a place to stay. it seems she has got back in contact with her mom which is making her situation worse.. it would be interesting if people brought light to this since i just see couple people on her reddit talk about it
and also maybe covering Jabberwocky Malice too
Poor Venus, she deserves so much better :(
As someone who grew up under a controlling thumb.. it sets you up to adulthood under an abusers thumb.. but.. with time and good people (therapy especially) you CAN recover and rebuild yourself..
Some things there’s no way to go back and do them again.. but with a healthy outlook and a positive mindset, you can start over..
it took til my 30s to shake off the worst of the controlling abusers.. but.. being older and wiser meant that I was able to enjoy the daily life things that to many others was routine or mundane.. and that when I did pursue something, it was because *i* wanted to.. not because I was TOLD TO.. and it’s meant that I’ve had a decade of life doing things I truly enjoy and appreciate in between the typical ups and downs of life and responsibilities..
I hope she finds her feet and discovers her strength as an individual..
sometimes those of us who have had to fight for it and dealt with extremely difficult and manipulative people, are the best judges of character and are able to eliminate people who don’t bring back to us the joy we give others.. it makes for a much less difficult life when you can CHOOSE who effects you
I hope she gets all of that peace and perspective.. that comes from self worth and control of our own life.. ❤❤
I think Venus is such a badass for escaping that toxic woman.
It's very scary and sad
Home Skillet yeah, I’m really glad she seems to be doing better, or at least that she has escaped that relationship.
Katherine Butler Hi jod. Laughing emojii
hi butler. laughing emojiii
True.
Apparently she’s not with him anymore because he turned out to be a “mini version” of her mom. Poor girl probably hasn’t had a genuine connection with anyone who isn’t trying to gain anything from her.
It's sadly likely for people who have abusive parents to make abusive romantic attachments. I hope she gets the help she needs to break the cycle.
can you post where you found this out :0
Wait. This guy gone through all that shit and slandering by her mom through years, married her through mail, helped her move to japan, and you're telling me he was bad to her? Something doesn't adds up, not taking sides but sounds just like the unfounded claims her mother did about everyone
Wait really? He seemed weird and off since he first appeared (publicly) in her life... geez trust your gut
@@capisenior maybe wanted a piece of that youtube pie?
What makes Venus' Story even more tragic is that from what I know she still continues to experience so much trauma nowadays. Her mother may be gone now but more keeps coming toward her and everyone myself included are very worried about her.
When Venus's mom was doing that "apology video" it seemed like she was reading a script if you read her eyes.
Pretty creepy
I'm glad her story's being heard, her mom is an awful disgusting woman.
Yeah
What about that interview vexxed did a video about?
But venus ran away from home. She stole her moms laptop and cheated on that boy 3 day after the wedding. When her mom flew to japan trying to get her back she called the police and lied
No hate - I used to hate her because I thought she was a fake attention hog
This was like, 7? years ago? Honestly it's been so long I don't remember, but a few months ago I was wondering what ever happened to her, and it's sad to hear her story :(
She lived here in switzerland just in the town nex to mine some of my friend went with here to school. Her mom was always like that manipulative and awful...
Honestly Venus was like rapunzel; abused by her mother for her mother’s benefit only 😐
everything checks out
Jocelyn Mancilla and trying to get rid of Eugene/Manaki
Except Rapunzel's mother is not her mother
That wasn't Rapunzel's mother. Rapunzel was given to a witch in exchange for stealing radishes from her garden.
Michelle Abrahmz metaphor still applies regardless if she was Rapunzels actual mum
update as per 2022: venus now does vlogs and still does yt tutorials but not for lolita aesthetic,rather other like and emo-cutie or preppy and does ASMR, and seems like a solo creator and happier now.
this is just the saddest thing ever. all the abuse she had to endure while playing this cute, lively character to the outside. I just want to give her a hug.
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT HOW HER MOM THREW A KNIFE AT HER FACE (edit: for everyone saying that she didn't throw the knife - 19:43)
Lillian WHAT
@@user-gn2wc1ue3e It's right there in the video dude
Morgan Saje i think i missed this part
Where??
@@AK-11770 it's at 19:43
her voice always sounds like she’s terrified or on the brink of tears.
MAYBE bc she was
True true
Yeah true
Soos izzda yeah..
True. I think that's just her voice tho
I love it when your voice cracks everytime something surprising happens, it lightens up the mood to know someone else is laughing at this as much as I am.
the mom switching up on venus right away is actually very incharacter for narcissistic and/or over controlling parents when they lose control over their child
Sounds like Venus liked it at first, then the mom saw the attention and got dollar signsin her eyes and begun the control of Venus completely while blocking her from having friends or real fans.
EGPMH yea like there’s not wrong with it her mom just became controlling and ruined the experience
YESS!! her mom's just like the government lol
@Kylie's World ah cool I did not notice I had that many damn; thank you and to everyone else too.
Sign*
Some mothers can only get attention through their children, guess they missed out on that when they were young themselves.
I really liked the last sentence: "She was an actual doll to her mother." That explains literally everything.
T tell you the truth it sent shivers down my spine, the way he said it.
It sounds like some thing from a horror movie
yorum tutmuş hocam
nO NOT "LITERALLY" EVERYTHING WHY DON'T PEOPLE LEARN TO USE THAT WORD.
@@nanaadjoa219 same
i swear ur intros and outros always seems like those "coming of age" movies and I love it
I remember i grew up wanting to be just like her. I wanted to dress like her, i wanted to look like her, and i wanted to speak like her. I honestly hope she's safe, she seems like a really great person.
Margaret: **nearly kills daughter and emotionally abuses her**
Also Margaret: WHY ARE YOU BULLYING ME I'M A VICTIM
Alternate Version
Margaret: **nearly kills daughter and emotionally abuses her*
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Also Margaret: WHY ARE YOU BOOING ME I'M RIGHT
This comment sucks donkey balls
@@Mikey-vy3og oh shut up you Brown wearing cow-horse
She learned from Trump
i would like this post but look how many likes u have
I cried when she described her mother would threaten with suicide if she didn't do what she wants, absolutely horrible
i almost cried
I was in this situation for a few years, and lemme tell you, that fucks you up real bad
Seriously, you are raised to think your mother is someone that loves you and will always take care of you but it must have really hurt her to realize her mother shouldn’t be threatening to kill herself if she doesn’t do something, I really hope her mother stays away
Honestly , she should call the cops on her mom. No one deserves a mom like this. I feel so bad.😢
That happens alot more frequently than you'd think
Welcome back! Rewatching this video made think of Beckii Cruel from around the same time. Looks like a lot of her early content no longer exists here, but her and Venus give off similar vibes imo
Don't forget her weight loss surgery when she weight like 53 kilo bc of her ED. It then got infected bc the doctors were shady asf and she had to be hospitalised bc she couldn't drink and eat anymore. She nearly died
"Calm down Barbara, your fake tan is orange. You have no room to talk."
I'm dead.
Edit: lmao, thanks for the likes!
I died at that bit
OML IM DEAD XD
@waylon lewin r u Margaret? Voz she doesn't need to apologise to her mum, after her mum try stab her FOH!
today we lost @baconlifesmatter 12 (i love that username lmao) but at least heaven gained a barbra with fake orange tan disliker rest in peace (what tf is wrong with me)
🤣🤣best part!
Venus mom just looks like a woman who would do that.
@Thor Odinson ur weird.. she aint hot brotha.
@Thor Odinson How can you be attracted to such human filth?
Thor Odinson I hope ure being sarcastic
She looks like a karen😭
@@Sopretty.aleeta Not really but she still sucks
She’s really not in a good place these days either
Oh, this is sad to hear :(
this is the first video of primink i have watched and i liked the intro so much it got me hooked
I swear her mothers hair changed like 15 times...I was so confused
Edit-Oop- tysm for all the likes 💕
Tea RIGHTTT
Ya her hair must be so tattered and ruined she abused it like he daughter
Hair dye wont fix her face
That’s a sign of BPR
Erniebyrd1214 What’s BPR?
“Calm down Barbra your fake tan is orange, you have no room to talk”
Iconic 😂
ASARADEL no, you
LOL nice lexi.
Lol😂😂
ELISHA BAUTISTA ok boomer
Lol nice
I remember I used to watch Venus when I was little and loved her. I feel bad for her but also happy that she broke free from her control in the end ☺️🥹
Anyone else rewatching all Primink's videos over and over again cuz you miss him ? 😂😭🥺
Come back....
Why’s he gone? ☹️
@@bammy2684 Wherever Primink is, I hope all is well. I honestly wish I knew. :(
This is why EVERYONES trying to save Danielle Cohn
But they don't have the same mom?
CrAZy fOr mYsElF but both of their moms are crazy and manipulative?
Exactly
@@dangerousmilks ok I get that but you worded it as if they had the same mom
@@crazyformyseIf how did you get that from what this person said? I got exactly what that person was saying.
This story had potential to make a psychological horror anime
I can rlly see that happening
*psychological
there's actually an anime movie with a similar story called perfect blue!
It’s not similar at all, perfect blue is about a stalker (mostly mental health, depends on how deep you want to understand it)
Perfect blue is good, but doesn’t really have anything to do with this
I highly recommend perfect blue then! It's amazing!
She reminds me of my mom. Extremely invasive, controlling and had little to no sympathy for others but themselves…
I did leave my home because it had driven me crazy. I loved her but also it was deteriorating me… I would look out to the world with such longing, I had to leave. I felt as I would die if I didn’t leave.
The same thing happened to me, my mom literally drove me mad. I never plan on seeing her again after that psychotic abuse and control. Glad you got away too ❤
I swore her mom had beef with another, smaller youtuber that I watched around 2011 or 2012. Like the youtuber called her out and the mom sent a swarm of fans after her. It might not have been Venus, but I remember the youtuber talking about the "living doll girl" and Venus was the only living doll youtuber I knew about back then.
"Is not my daughter anymore."
That actually broke my heart. Oh that poor girl.
What broke me is when her mom threw the knife at her. And when she threatened to kill herself to her own daughter.
I feel for her bc that’s something my own mum has said to me unfortunately. But I really do hope she’s happy and healthy in Japan
@@numberjack Reminds me of the cruel saying, "Every child needs a parent, but not every parent needs a child.".
The mother just used her own flesh and blood as her own vanity project, instead of treating her like a real daughter.
Tbh I'm glad that she said that. I would feel the same about my mother if she abused me emotionally. At least she's not trying to go after her.
The C.I.A. 🥺🥺
Her mom wants attention. Jealous of her daughter. She wants to be successful.
Rika Orakel Sometimes, when parent’s younger days are gone and they can’t change their life, they take over their kid’s life(or lives) to try and relive theirs. It’s sad that some people can’t have the room to grow and discover who they are because of someone who was supposed t nurture and support them in whatever they do.
She also clearly wants to young again. And probably the money...
Gluttony...
I mean that's pretty clear..u pretty much summed it up..
That’s the worst kind of controlling narcissistic parent there is. The child doesn’t realize it until they’re all grown up. The parent then shows their true colors, in this case, attacking all her daughter’s friends because they pose a threat to her personal cash flow-in the end, attacking the one she lost control over-the child she purported to love. It’s all about the money, fame, and POWER. Narcissists are hungry for CONTROL/POWER. Basically, they’re EXTREMELY SELFISH PEOPLE. Sad for this girl. 😢
anyone else just bingeing all his vids until he comes back?
Shes proof that NOT EVERYONE should have children...
Armyyy
Yes :()
Or at least take care of them. This kinda sounds like Venus shouldn't have been born :/
Armyyyy
@Ethan Miller that’s what he’s saying
evil stepmother from cinderella: im the worst
venus's mother: hold my fake accounts
Meiji! TheVocaloid omg 😭😂😂😂😂
lmaoooo
yep lol
I hate how everybody says this and at the end always says hold my thing
omg its our queen meijiii
That intro was a BANGER. Actually the best intro to a video I've seen
Just a heads up! KimonoTime goes by Kelsey now, she's grown up to be an actress and model, which is nice!
Also the 'even though you're missing an eye' comment isn't a weird euphermism - it's referring to the fact that Kelsey had to have one of her eyes removed when she got cancer as a baby. At the time when Venus/Margaret said that, this wasn't something that Kelsey felt comfortable speaking about on her platform and largely kept it a secret from her audience. Venus/Margaret making fun of her for a physical disability is mean as Hell, but it's even worse that they targetted her for that knowing she was insecure about it. Thankfully Kelsey is really open about her eye and her use of glass eyes now, and often talks about them on Tiktok, even pairs them with different outfits and characters.
Update: Margaret is now accusing Venus of KILLING Maneki because he has no social media accounts anymore lmao
KirstyKins 😱. Smh
Wait what?
KirstyKins and she’s trying to sue Primink-
@@asTWOrism Damn this woman sueing everyone
a really GAY Tijoko draws Yee. She ain’t playin’ no games tho
But she still delusional as fuck
I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again.
Having a child come out of your womb does not make you a mother. Mothers are women who care for a child, who are supportive of them, who ride with them through thick and thin, who love them unconditionally.
If you do not do those things, you are not a mother. You’re just a miserable, neglectful sow who the child is permanently connected to.
Are you a victim too
@@justsomegirlwithoutamousta3173
My parents are a tad toxic, but it's nothing like what Venus went through.
@@oddstore.629 Ah
I can relate. I just want at least one person who genuinely cares for me idk what you are going through
But I hope you find your love 💖
That is kinda true ngl
YAAS
This story kinda sounds like the gypsy rose story to me ig
PRIMINK COME BACK😭😭😭
@Grace Asher-Creekbird Homestead me too :(
venus looks at the camera while telling her story. Her mom's eyes were moving back and forth like she was reading a script. awkward
Ella Minson to add to your comment, there was no emotion coming from the mother when she was telling her side of the story and it was practiced.
Oof I just commented this not realizing you already posted it 😬
We as humans tend to do that as we lie.
Ella Minson Hi jod. Laughing emojii
hola ella. laughing emojiiiii
**throws knife at daughter**
MY DAUGHTER WAS SO ABUSIVE
When was that?
@@DeFiDebbie kinda at the end.
This woman is abselutly crazy. Omg, like, why would you do this??
@@Nohideaa ikrrr omll
Yeah... She did a lot more than that :\ she's threatened a lot of shit and physical fights happened rarely but obviously her mom is insane. Bro she wouldn't even talk to me after all this crazy shit happened. She cut almost all of her friends off but I'm glad she's doing better now :)
WOW, one of the worst mothers. Such a narcissistic horrible person. She stole her daughters childhood and wasn't a parent at all. This girl prpbably has to learn common sense or how to communicate with people from the scratch.
Having a mother who literally wants to take over her own daughters life is crazy enough already... BUT Then trying to act innocent and shift all the evil deeds thats occurred over the years purely on her own daughter when she was the one literally trying to control/steal her life is also just down right low. Some poeple on this earth are just downright scary. NO ONES SAFE >.
Such a horrible mother she ruined venus friendships and relationship
+ she didn’t even let her HAVE any friendships growing up. Margaret made sure she was homeschooled for her entire life so she would remain as impressionable as possible to her ideas, wants, and beliefs without the interference of others she could possibly socialize with and get new ways of thinking from
Shouldn't this shitty mother of her be put in prison?
@@kyumazu1926 Probably, but there's no proof for the more serious stuff that would actually put you in trouble legally.
She can absolutely get a restraining order though, if she hasn't already.
@@maenad1231 If Venus is now having meltdowns and other mental problems, it's no effing wonder. My heart goes out to her. I hope she finds healing.
ShoFFy _trust_ me. This is very common for a mom to do. I’ve seen it so much.
The Good part is that The Daughter is now free to do whatever she wants.
good for her !! i'm so glad that she's free now !!
She has a only fans now
@@Angel-eu4pf i mean shes taking advantage of her simps for money,i see it as a win for her
@@pluff624 it's not morally correct *-*
I tried to accept her actions, but I just can't
pluff its definitely a win for her lol I'm glad she's doing well for herself now
so i'm currently rewatching primik's videos cause i miss 'em and his line "i'm sorry if i'm mispronouncing your name, i'm bad at everything" might be the most relatable one yet
We've missed you so much primink... I'm binging now that your back again.
Don't get me wrong I've always checked in and watched a few reruns.
I hope your doing well and taking care of yourself.
I know we don't know each other personally by any means but Im really happy your back 🙏
Are we not gonna talk about the fact that she threw a knife at her daughter possibly killing her, but her aim is so TRASH so she couldn't?
edited for the third time lol
"ty for da likes :3" was the first edit
Thank God for her crap aim
〈bunnybeartea〉 where was the part? I just want to see it
@@-mayla-8362 19:42
은브라에 thank you
@@-mayla-8362 at 19:39 O-O i'm realizing now that someone already told you lol
It’s so hard to believe that people are still on her mother’s side 🙄
EXACTLY!!
Vulnerable people who believe in the lies of manipulative people, sometimes its not easy to believe in one side when you have 2 sides of a story, specially when you are vulnerable, its an easy target to manipulate, which in general manipulative people look for to believe in them if that makes sense. So prob that ppl are the ones who believe the mother's part of the story.
Even if we were to believe she killed her hamster, (which I don't at all) wouldn't there have been a pause in the upload schedule? I mean, a responsible mother would've pivoted to focus on her daughter's mental health, but instead she kept her in front of the camera? And once you realize she lied about something so heinous, there is no reason to believe literally anything else she said. I'm just glad Venus is safe.
but who is tho? it's my first time hearing for this story so idk
@@danicarakic2270 I remember someone making a video on her pointing out that she called the cops on her mother when the mother followed her to Japan because she "just wanted to talk." And that she didn't tell the cops that it was her mother when she made the call.
Even if that were true (we only have the mother's word and she's clearly a malicious liar), I don't blame Venus for a second for doing what she needed to stay safe. She was a legal adult under no obligation to talk to her mother, especially when abuse was involved.
But still, someone made a video in which they seemed to take this as "proof" that Venus was up to something.
I've also heard some people call her boyfriend creepy because he allegedly watched her as a child. But again, even assuming we can trust these rumors, they don't disprove her mother's abuse. If anything, Venus being vulnerable to predators is (if true) a direct result of her mother robbing her of bodily autonomy.
Another thing I remember that made her look bad was that her fans tended to harass people, which can easily be chalked up to her mother encouraging that behavior. But her fanbase didn't just instantly lose its toxicity when she gained control of her channel. So when they attacked people who sided with her mother, it looked bad on her. But again, her mom created toxic culture in the first place, and the toxicity is way better now, further supporting the idea that Venus was never the problem there.
Now I know why people accuse my mum of manipulating me into dressing so girly and dolly. I'm obsessed with lolita style or dolly looks. I love how people care when it's not needed to, but when it's actually needed, they don't.
i used to always watch her youtube videos growing up, i loved venus. i never knew this was happening. it’s sad now to think about how i watched her so much and never realized she was going through this..
The mom literally holding the victim card is peak karen behaviour
XD
Facts-
bruh she radiates huge karen energy
your user makes it way funnier
Managers are quaking
*Her mother* : *makes daughter dress like a doll for money and fame *
*My mother when I go out with 0.1% lipstick on* : Where, ya going out there looking like like a clown
Bruh truth hurts tbh
That s when you know they love you for real
Read this in a Scottish accent
xx_c1ci_th3_ _chaOtIc_xx I just did this and I didn’t even know I could do a Scottish accent ;-;
Βασιλική Κραψη bro when I was little I loved makeup and my mom was like “ay u don’t need makeup ur too young and beautiful”
Now she’s trying to get me to wear makeup because I’m a teen 😪👌
I remember watching Venus' trying japanese candy video when I had just gotten youtube... never imagined this was what actually went down
i just wanna hug her rn. the poor young woman... NO ONE should experience this..... EVER!!!
Venus angelic is a name I haven’t heard in YEARS holy moly.
Cutellic same
i used to watch her videos everyday T^T
Sameeeeeee
completely forgot about her until i saw this video
Bruh same heard her when I was 9
It's horrible how some parents ruin their childrens life
Makes me really appreciate my parents
All children deserve parents, but not all parents deserve children.
I'm just happy that this story has at least a happy ending for Venus. It really seemed like it was going for a really dark turn, when the knife was brought up. Plus with that kind of upbringing, it must be hard to deal with all the drama just out there on the internet.
@@PKdororo Correction, All children deserve *good* parents
@@emperorfaiz well ...because you dont understand what he's trying to say.
Thats so true 😣
Can't relate XD
Your intro is kinda relaxing ngl
Experiences taught me that a real mother cares for her child, supports her children's dreams and lets them be who they are.
What Venus's mother did, was not how a real mother should act. I'm really glad she finally escaped the grasp of her controlling mother at the end.
“she got her fame by playing a doll, when actually behind the scenes, she was a doll to her mother.”
CHILLS
Deep thoo
She was my childhood and now she is scary but I still watch her cause she is a good youtuber
convincing people that their child is the bad one is what abusive parents always do
That's true
Robin Graves. I’m sorry you where abused too, but i promise it Will get better as you get older. I was sexually abused and it Really messed me up, especially in high School, but I’m out of high school now and it’s way better now. I wish i wouldn’t feel ashamed anymore, but at least i can try and help others like me. Anyways hope you have an awesome day :)
@@bobbycarroll7161
I'm truly sorry that you had to go through all this horrible pain. Please feel hugged. Much love & luck from germany 💙💚❤️💛💜
☘️🍀🌻🌈🌞🌙🌟
JayJay SweetMadness, really, thank you sooo much. You are a sweetheart 😊❤️
daryl Dixon: guess some people aren’t meant to be parents
"Every kid deserve a parent/parents, but not every parent/parents deserve a kid."