That Did NOT Go As Planned: Can a $2,500 Jeep Grand Cherokee Keep Up With a New $63K Jeep Off-Road?
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( tfl-studios.com/ ) Which generation of Jeep Grand Cherokee is best - old or new? To find out, we take 20-year-old WJ and pitch it against the last-generation WK2 Grand Cherokee as well as the brand new WL (2022) model.
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00:00 Intro
03:04 2021 Jeep G.C. vs Truth
07:02 2022 Jeep G.C. vs Truth
11:39 2001 Jeep G.C. vs Truth
15:22 2021 G.C. vs Dare
19:49 2022 G.C. vs Dare
24:27 2001 G.C. vs Dare
27:33 Verdict
#Jeep #GrandCherokee #Offroad - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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wait-- tommy got eye surgery and so now warby parker is sponsoring? I think he should just wear non-prescription glasses and make everyone happy.
Is it just me or did Roman come off as totally sounding like a total dick to the guys in the side by side? I’ve been in the off roading community my entire life and for the most part everybody helps out everybody and most people are very friendly with one another. Sharing vehicle builds, or what they do for a career and so on. Had Roman not been so short with them for just saying hello and asking about the TFL Jeeps cameras and set up they most likely would have gotten a few more fans and certainly more people to network with and share resources should they ever be needed in the future. It wouldn’t have killed him to take a whopping 5 minutes out of his filming to talk to those people. And since their out off roading it’s not like fans would be lined up for miles on the trail to all have their own conversations with TFL either. But the way Roman acted, you sure would have thought that.
Where is Tombstone Hill trail that you use? I am going to Colorado next year and want to try this trial since I have seen many vehicles on it in your videos
Trouble is, you guys don't become really familiar with the cars you are reviewing. There is no way I would have had the car in Rock-hopper mode with that terrain. Just leave it in 4wd low and watch it go.
Jeep comparison aside, you two had some real dad-son moments throughout the video. Keeping it real.
the bickering was adorable!
Agreed. 👍🏼☺️
As nice as the new generations may be, you just can’t beat solid axels off road. I have an ‘04 WJ with a basic 4” lift and it goes EVERYWHERE I wana go on the weekend, and still gets the wife to work during the week reliably. And as you mentioned, the seats are super comfortable. Great video as always, looking forward to you guys getting the 4Xe! Keep up the good work!
Me too. 2004 WJ represent! 🍻
WJ gang strong
WJ for life 😎🇺🇸
Loved my ‘01 WJ!!!
'04 bone stock WJ. 👍
Thanks for giving so much respect to the WJ. They are amazing and may actually go up in value in the future. Proud 2004 owner. :)
WJ for life 😎 and HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS ⭐️🏈
Hush!!
If I had the 63K to buy a 2022, I'd take my 2004 Grand Cherokee to the dealership and have them tweak it back to showroom condition.
Not sure what I'd spend the other 60,000 on, but I'm sure I could think of something.
@@ninjabearpress2574 Possibly an engine rebuild? Or you can pay for a supercharged 4.7 PowerTech
@@zaccorpseman7366 Now I really wish I had the money, gots to get me a Powerball ticket.
I miss my Dad. Treasure these moments.
I miss my dad too. I definitely should have treasured him more when he was around.
Peace be with you, R C.
That side by side dude was like a nosey neighbor! He was acting like you were on private property. Roman handled it perfectly! I assume he doesn't watch TFL
Right? I was wondering why that guy felt the need to investigate someone as if he owned the place...
He could have been a future subscriber if Roman had told him. Like he's done, in past years.
I think he just saw a car driving by with cameras protruding all over it and was curious what was going on.
As a WJ guy I rather liked this video.
We do have the best seats and the easiest off-roading of all the Grands. 😎
And all the issues you pointed out, sagging suspension, bad ac, ect can be fixed, you can get those m/t tires, and upgrade the radio and you'll still pay less than you will for the new basic Grand.
Miss those times when things were simplier
Came for the WJ, most underrated off-road SUV ever
I have a European 2004 WJ (Diesel) so I have a soft spot for them. It goes to show if you want a comfortable useable off-roader that is also comfortable on the road, you can have an ol WJ with a few quid spent on decent tyres and all for less than the VAT depreciation of a new one the minute it rolls out the door.
I call my 2004 Grand Cherokee Big Red, that says it all.
it would be such a head turner to have a European WJ here in the States. Diesel and RHD. Er more specifically a British WJ since those are RHD
As an owner of both a 2004 WJ and ‘97 ZJ I can tell you definitively you the old Jeeps can’t be beat!
The WJ is my dream car, I have a smile on my face every time I drive it. And I have yet to meet another 4wheeler on the trail I can’t keep up with!
I always smile in anticipation of the opportunity to drive '02 WJ anywhere.
@@AndreiDRoman Yes! You can definitely feel the love that went into building those WJs.
I’m the (proud?) owner of a 2002 WJ, 4.0 inline six with almost 240k miles. Drives nice, tows surprisingly well, off-roads better than it has a right to, and it’s been paid for for years. Thing is a tank.
The A/C works. When it wants to. Oh well. Paint? Meh. Clear coat is overrated.
Love the content!
You should have tested using a 2005/2006 WK with QuadraDrive 2 and the electronic limited slip differentials front and rear... one of the most capable Grand Cherokees..
It is an unreal system. I have a 2010 WK HEMI and it kicks the $hit out of my 4Runner.
Loved this video! I owned a 2001 Grand Cherokee Laredo with the S package, the 4.0 inline six and Selec-Trac 4WD. I loved that Jeep. I should have never sold it.
Find another one, you won't be sorry.
Loving my 2004 Grand Cherokee SE.
aldo90731
*had owned
My 99 has 4.0 but it's a Quadra Trac. Is the select Trac Better?
@@dentondunn4346 Sorry I’m not familiar with the QuadraTrac. The beauty of the Selec-Trac is that you can manually select between 2WD, 4H Full-Time, 4H Part-Time and 4L.
I would NEVER trade my 2006 WJ with 4inch lift for any new model. It is so easy to maintain and parts available everywhere. Very comfortable on and off road. Great vehicle for whole family.
WJ's in the states ran from 1999-2004. So either you got the year of yours wrong, or you have a WK (2005-2010).
Buddy that rolled up in the side-by-side was something else! Not that it was any of his business from the get-go, but I found it funny that he sounded as if he was a bit suspicious and cheesed. Next time you off-road there you'd better be sure to clear it with him. Ha! Ah, the world takes all kinds. Cheers, lads, thanks for the great vid(s), and Merry Christmas to you all.
Roman’s response was perfect.
Roman said “see ya bud!” 😂😂
Imagine seeing people obviously filming and then interupting to ask what theyre doing
It’s not like the guys owns the place so I don’t see any reason why they’d have to clear anything up next time
@@czrmtz2431 I meant it as a joke. Clearly the guy on the side-by-side is a bit of a goof. Anyway, cheers, bud! It's almost Christmas -- I hope you're sipping on some nice whisky and enjoying time with your loved ones.
As always the 2500.00 jeep is best . Mainly because normal working people can’t afford the rich yuppie toys with heated seats and steering wheel . Simple is always better .words to live by
Try to get a better job….. then you can afford a car that cost more than $2500
@@jtomtl your average person won't dump 63k on a jeep that's a waste of money. And others are too poor to afford a car and insurance.
@@Kana0211 I never said everyone should buy a 63k Jeep, Average people can definitely pay more than $2500 for a car. Don’t just complain, that wouldn’t change anything.
@@jtomtl Just about anyone can pay more than $2500 for a vehicle. I know a lot of people that buy cheap cars because they're simply cheaper. As long as you can fix them yourself. These same people buy nearly everything in cash. One of them paid $300,000 for a house, in cash. Still drives an early 2000's Golf
The wj has standard heated seats mate 😂
Between the three, my money, I’d rather have the oldest one. I’ve always hated that Jeep decided to remove the solid rear axles on the Grand Cherokees.
I was pissed when they removed the solid FRONT axles.
Independent suspension is only good offroad if you are running high speed dirt roads. Unless you are willing to spend $100k on custom independent suspension like some of those recent king of the hammers rigs.
This review has just strengthened what I had already decided. I'm going to drive my 06 GC until the end of time for two reasons, Jeep has strayed so far away from their roots to be unrecognizable and I'm too poor to afford these luxo-barges.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I traded in my ‘05 about 7 months ago and kick myself almost every day.
Driving my 2004 GC until I die...luxo-barge, I like that.
They couldn't pay me to take that 2022, it's a poofed-out pile of junk.
Jeep still offers the Laredo trim, which would be the way to go for a daily driver. 2022 Laredo, 4x4, luxury tech package, 18in wheel option. $43K. Not a horrible price and on par with Explorer, 4Runner, Passport, etc.
@@RysterARCEE Neh, too frilly.
Just bought a 2021 Trailhawk. Thanks for the video. Really like the father-son aspect of your show. Keep up the good work.
I would much rather feather the accelerator as needed than let an automated system lurch me forward.
The fact that the '22 model went up Dare with basically summer tyres, says a lot about the electronics :)
Yup, it's what Land Rover has been doing as well, that they can equip a Defender for example with large street oriented all-seasons and do great off-road due to those fancy electronics. Pretty much perfected it over time with the last few generations of Range Rover models.
True but more electronics to stop working and then you have no 4WD. And DCJ is known for their electronics /s
Or it says that the trail isn't difficult.
@@prestonbonner2456 after 10+ years of off road riding, I can tell you that the GoPro (or any camera) doesn't describes the terrain accurately, multiply the difficulty by a factor of 4 and you'll probably get near the reality.
@@raynetorrin yuppers. Simple is easy. Less is more.
I have my 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee limited 5.2 l V8 with only 122,000 miles. I use it as my winter vehicle in Southwest Colorado. 4 wheel drive all the time is hard to beat. I'm interested to hear more about the 4xe.
Sweet ride, dawg.
Built when Jeep meant something, not the poofed-out junk they sell these days.
I am SO glad you guys finally got a WJ and are doing content with it. The WJ really is the best GC. I love my '03 WJ and would love to see you guys do a cheap Jeep build with it and start modding it.
You guys mentioned The WJ not being very safe in a roll over because of the big windows. I would disagree. I had a ZJ which had even smaller pillars and bigger windows. I flipped and rolled it at 65mph after getting in an accident with a semi. It came to a rest on its roof after about 3 flips. The cabin held up and only caved a little in the middle of the windshield. The windows on the drivers side didn't even break.
Big windows mean better visibility, you can see bad thing coming and avoid it.
Love my 04, wouldn't trade it for anything new.
Will always go with the oldies. They were built better for off-road and even built to be very easy to fully modify for more extreme trails. Loved the hell out of my 05 GC before the motor blowout. Had a full stage 3 mod kit on her too!!
Will never go newer than 10 in the GC family. Newer ones are more computer than car.
Grew up riding around in a ZJ and WJ, gotta say I haven't enjoyed a seat or ride that comfortable in any vehicle ever since.
The best part of this video was the father/son banter and arguing coming down in the “old” GC. Keep it up fellas. Awesome content!
Wow! I learned so much from this video, thanks. I’ve had air suspension on Land Rovers previously and had some issues. I’d definitely go springs after watching this.
I've had 3 WJ because I love how they handle on and off road. They've saved my life a few times. Still have one even through I have a nice newer WK2.
I have a 2011 wk2 with the 5.7. It's never let me down. The 5.7 is a BEAST and the quadra Trac 2 has enough capability to go where you need it to. Love that thing.
Love my old WJ/WG, taken me to some amazing places all round in Europe. Can't beat it!
"Overland" is the name of an early 20th century car company. Willys bought them in 1908, and the combined company became Willys-Overland in 1912. The Overland name was dropped when Kaiser bought the company in 1953. The Overland badge on these trim Jeeps is essentially the same as the one used by the original company. "Overlanding" has existed a lot longer than the current fad! :)
Back then, all cars were overlanders.
The Overland name has become a top notch name, just like Denali. We have one, 2008, with the Mercedes 3.0 turbo diesel. It was the top of the line for a Grand cherokee. Bought it used 5 years ago. Not impressed. The turbo was changed before I bought it, with 130,000. Mercedes says to change the turbo at 125,000 , it was changed before I bought it. $6000. Per dealership records invoice. The radio doesn't work. Quit working after I bought it, my father has a 1954 Chevrolet with a working radio. Original. Sure, it's only AM. But it works after 69 years ! Obviously Chrysler can't make a radio with new technology to last past 10 years.! My wife bought a 2017 Grand cherokee in 2019, had 22,000 miles on it, at 88,000 miles the 8 spd transmission blew up.! 1,2nd and 3rd gears destroyed. $5500 TO FIX. I'll never buy another Chrysler product.
Nice job handling the “busybodies.” That kind of thing happens to me all the time.
I got so pissed off for Roman like da hell git on somewhere damn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Total vibe killers ugh
Always loved the WJ, had a chance to do tire development for that car as my first job out of school. Amazing what they are capable of even with stock tires
Always loved the grand Cherokee I’ve had my WJ now for a very long time even with newer Jeeps in our fleet I still drive the wj allot….when we go off road people like to think the wj isn’t capable or “not a real Jeep” 🤣 until I’m pulling them back to traction then they ask so what exactly does this Jeep have? The 4.0 is a nice trail motor solid axles are always preferred in a trail rig add some lockers front & rear nice skid plates little lift & some mud terrains they go everywhere
Great review. Though I have a 2011 Overland Hemi and it's been a good ride, I would still trust the WJ in terms of offroading. Nothing beats solid axles especially when you have two of them front and rear
I’ve always loved the way those old WJs look too. IMHO, it is the best looking of the bunch.
Happy Holidays Gents & thank you for all the cool content!
Great video like always!
Like always you guys make great reviews 👌
As a 31 year old "crotchety" person who also has a bad back, that was one of the reasons I didn't get the overland with the air suspension. That and the price tag. It was just a little outside of my budget.
thanks alot guys. the best content i've ever seen!
Tommy: I should stop wearing glasses
:)
Owned 4 WJ's. First one in High School. Fast forward 20 years, I've never kept a car as long as the 1999 WJ that got me through college and 2' snow showers. It was an INCREDIBLE car. Just traded my 2021 Subaru Crosstrek for my old 2012 Jeep KK Liberty (was back up for sale). Made 8K on the sale of the Crosstrek and got out of a car payment. Love Subarus like our Ascent for 4 kids, but forgot how much I loved the Jeep durability. See another WJ in our future.
I actually liked the 2004 model vs the overly expensive newer ones. 200k+ on a Jeep and most people think Toyotas/Hondas are the only models to reach that many miles.
My 2001 4.7 WJ limited still running strong! Great offroad and snow.
The “Old and Crotchety” guy is the one who can afford the Grand Cherokee. I was surprised to see the 2022 do better then the 21. Nice job Jeep!
It’s amazing how much the Grand Cherokee has changed during the years.
Yeah, I was watching them play with the touchscreen and hoping they didn't accidentally fire the phasers.
From decent to dainty 😂
Had a 96 and an 01’ GC. 01 died a few weeks ago, 96 has been gone for a bit. Miss the 96 more. Square body, more aggressive looking done right.. did some good bombing in the 96. Took everything and wanted more.
Really informative video guys. I drove a ZJ Grand Cherokee (would have been great to see one of those in your comparison) from when I bought it new in 1996 to when I sold it last year. After watching your comparison, I think my next Jeep will be a wrangler.
Always love your old vs new videos. Would love to see a comparison with the WK as well. I wish I could bring mine.
WK and XK with Quadra-Drive-II were the BEST!
@@hoagieman26 QDII really works. Once followed an open-diff truck, where it struggled the QDII handled with ease, no momentum needed.
I always wonder why the WK is so underrepresented in the Jeep community. I loved mine. I had the Euro version called WH. it was build by magna steyr, in the same place where they build the Mercedes G.
My 2007 wk jgc just hit 213k mikes and she’s still strong and smooth! It’s just a laredo v6 3.7 4wd but in my head I drive a track hawk 😎
On the Overland you can order it with an off-road package that changes the wheels to 18 inch, I think some extra skid plates, bigger axles, the Trail-Rated badge, and a few more things.
Love my wj with Quadra drive vari-lockers, super comfy and with a mild lift and larger tires it defiantly can keep up with most vehicles out there
Love the video, keep up the great work!
Thank you for watching.
Glad you realized going into Rock puts you in OR2. It is a rough ride but the Wk2 is a beast. I took my V6 on a trail ride with off roaders and they were amazed at the capabilities...with Pirelli street tires.
WJ is better. Solid axles wins off-road. Every. Single. Time.
You can just hit the button to override it and put it back in OR1 while remaining in rock mode.
I'll take my 2002 Overland over the new ones anyday... 3" lift and 31" Duratracs and it goes anywhere. My Varilocks still work too, although I'm (slowly) building a pair of axles with 4.56's and real lockers that will eventually get swapped in along with a long-arm lift. And when I'm ready for more power, I'll drop in an LS instead of a camshaft-eating HEMI.
I'll take my WK2 that doesn't need any mods to go anywhere
@@tylerfoster828 Hahahah okay if that video didn't make it apparent that the WK2 isn't half the Jeep the WJ is, I dunno what will.
@@tylerfoster828 sorry but the WK2 will get you stuck in real trails-mud-rocks long before my WJ now yes my particular WJ does have upgrades like real lockers & new carriers with higher gear ratios swapped in place of my 20yr old worn out factory ones a fresh suspension lift to accommodate obstacles in the trails we have a XK with QD2 a JK that replaced out WK2 because of the soccer mom feel this video is showing Jeeps in very light duty trails where the more car like Jeeps are already struggling not trying to take anything away from the comfort of a WK2 but they’re definitely not world renowned for hardcore off road capability
Ls motors just drop transmissions no big deal
@waterloo123100 you're really gonna talk about dropping transmissions on a WJ video LMAO they shoulda never left the AW4, my xjs hit reverse doing 60 and locked the tires, and never skipped a beat, trans is in the garage for a spare currently.
Funny you guys did this comparison, I traded in my 19 Cherokee trailhawk for a 22 GC-L Altitude(needed room for increasing size of the family) and bought an 04 GC to go to camp
I bought a 98 ZJ in 2011 for $4k. I put $3k into a long arm suspension lift and 33in MT tires. You would be absolutely shocked at the places I've taken it. Even without lockers or limited slip.
I have a wk2 diesel with QDII, and a 2007 wk diesel with QDII. For off-road the wk with QDII is better because the front axle locks. Unfortunately, Jeep discontinued the locking front axle with the wk2.
Correct...idk why they would do that...
@@hoagieman26 cost, noise complaints, warranty issues.
Congrats on the new / quasi old JGC. I do have a 2015 Overland EcoDiesel and just love it. Wouldn’t put on the Colorado trails though. Happy Holidays.
Love the banta between you guys.. father and son comedy at its off-road best … love all you guys on the channel.. merry Christmas from Darwin Australia 🇦🇺
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Honestly, I think the WJ is the best looking of the 3
As an 04 owner, I agree.
My mother has a 2018 Grand Cherokee with just 7k miles (she does not drive much). I have found it to handle amazingly well in the snow and inclement weather. However, while it is nice inside, I feel claustrophobic on drives that go anywhere outside town. The seats are not that great either and there are some visibility issues. It's a nice car and my elderly mother really loves it. I've borrowed it to run across state or to the next town a few times over the last couple of years and found it to be a great road trip vehicle as long the interior is kept clean with each stop before it feels cramped. Hers has a 3.6 engine and it gets about 32-33 mpg on the highway at 60mph, which is rather impressive.
seems like i waited YEARS for TFL to review the WJ and even before watching I KNEW it would own the competition! ✊😎 so much love for those ole Jeeps!
My 91 xj with 4 litre was unstoppable. Now have a 02 wj with the 4.7. No matter what type of weather/terrains, it's getting you home.
Nice comparison, some more extreme tests should have revealed even more disparity of how much better a solid axle is.
Advanced aged dad moment was hilarious and hit home lol
Romans video appearances are starting to have that Benny Hill feel. As a 57 year old dude I appreciate that 😂
I would love to see a ZJ vs WJ vs Wk1 vs WK2 vs WL shootout
Which grand is most grand
exactly but Wk hemi with front and rear ELSDs and must be 09 or 10 version. love mine
The Xj will outwheel them all..
@@curtislaketek2952 definitely have to use the WKs with Quadra drive 2
you guys need to get a WK and test that generation too, that is the best generation in my opinion, It has a lot of the tech of the newer grand Cherokees while still having a solid rear axle.
Would still love to see the WK 1 on the channel haven't seen that one yet it's really great ours walks up anything we throw at it
On my WK2 I use off-road #2 very rarely. I find that off-road #1 is good for most stuff. It’s nice to have #2 tho, when you need it.
Not only a fantastic review, but 100% father/son times lol xD I loved it!
The Trailblazer with the straight 6 also had the front half shafts going through the oil pan with the obvious problems that went along with it when it got older.
I had the Saab version and while I loved it especially with the 5.3 V8 which also had the half shafts through the oil pan, those axle seals never stopped leaking other than for about 2 weeks after replacing them, but you didn't have to wait long for them to start dripping again.
I hope they understand that when they design that is the difference between Toyota and American competition they go for reliable design and I can’t stand Toyota but you gotta give them credit for simple smart things
I think they first did it with the Oldsmobile Toronado in the ‘70’s
well I have owned all 3 and now own a WK2 sterling edition, the newest version is by far the most comfortable and best looking. I have never got stuck anywhere and thats all we need to count
When you put the WK2 in rock mode it automatically goes to offroad height 2. So you set it, then dialed to rock which changed the setting again.
That Trailhawk has quadra drive 2 so here are what those settings actually do.
•Auto - When in 4WD High range the vehicle height is at NRH. The vehicle systems are set to normal performance settings. Combines optimal traction with seamless steering feel. When in 4WD Low range the vehicle height adjusts to 38 mm (1.49 in.) above NRH, the transfer case locks, and the transmission shifting adjusts to off road shifting.
•Sport - When in 4WD High range the vehicle height adjusts to 15 mm (0.59 in.) below NRH. Electronic Stability Control (ESC) and traction control tuning thresholds are raised, and the Antilock Brake Control (ABS) allows less wheel slip, all to allow more driver control. Also the transmission shifting adjusts to a higher performance shifting. Not available in 4WD Low range.
•Snow - When in 4WD High range the vehicle height is at NRH. Traction control is adjusted to allow less wheel slip, and initial vehicle launch will be in second gear. When in 4WD Low range the vehicle height adjusts to 33 mm (1.3 in.) above NRH, the transfer case locks, the transmission shifting and ABS adjusts to off road settings.
•Sand/Mud - When in 4WD High range the vehicle height adjusts to 38 mm (1.49 in.) above NRH. Electronic Stability Control (ESC) tuning threshold is raised, and the ABS allows less wheel slip to allow more driver control. When in 4WD Low range the vehicle height adjusts to 38 mm (1.49 in.) above NRH. The transfer case and the Electronic Limited Slip Differential (ELSD) locks, the transmission shifting and ABS adjusts to off road settings.
•Rock - Not available in 4WD High range. When in 4WD Low range the vehicle height adjusts to 65 mm (2.6 in.) above NRH. The transfer case and the ELSD locks, the transmission shifting and ABS adjusts to off road settings, and hill descent control is activated for steep downhill control.
That WJ has the tow package. That means it has a rear limited slip.
Hello I am a fan I have been watching your videos for 12 months and we have a 2000 Isuzu hi lander a stock one we have been having a couple of issues of it but it is still staying strong and I wish you guys a merry Christmas keep up the work
We own a 2004 and a 2019. I would recommend the 'two solid axle' 2004 all day long. Maintenance (you can align this yourself) and reduced degree of electronic complexity is for me.
My '04 V8 (not the Hi Output) gives me 16 - 17 MPG and plenty of acceleration. there is also a straight six option that comes in at just 30 HP less and will run forever. The 5 speed transmission
is built By Mercedes and the transfer case has locked 4-wheel option. This machine has taken me places I did not expect it could go and I can have 10 of these for the price of one new one.
Proof that new and fancy isn't always what certain drivers want. If I wanted a BMW or Land Rover I would've bought one. I wanted a Jeep for a reason. Had a 2004 Grand Cherokee Special Edition. Loved that Truck. It was indestructible. Got a 2015 Limited and was afraid to take it out. Oh and love the tape deck and CD player. LOL
Roman and Tommy, You guys are great. I get where each of you guys are coming from on ride comfort. Tommy is right for the younger crowd. As I have had 2 Jeep wranglers both 2 door versions. a 2003 TJ and a 2010 JK. Loved them both. Now i have a 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. I am 61 years old so this is where I agree with Roman on ride comfort, and I also have a bad back. I no longer like the ruff ride and like something more smooth. I have been looking at the new Grand Cherokee for my next vehicle but it would have to be a trailhawk for me, but I don't think they are out yet. Hopefully soon as I would like to try one out.
I had a 1999 wj limited with a 4.7 and qd2.thing was amazing. Now I have a 2006 xk limited 4.7,great jeep too just miss the front solid axle
my 99 4.7 WJ with 230k still gets me to work every day. great rig.
Good morning 🌄 Ya'all
I look forward to waking up with Prayer, Strong coffee & TFL content, Keep up the great work.
Hope all TFL family's have an Amazing Christmas 🎄season
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SOS the best father and son in the business! So much enjoyment from watching these videos.
Love my WJ, it goes wherever I point it, 4" longarm lift and a 4.0 liter
Technology vs solid axles...no contest lol. Even though I have a 2018 GC Limited, I tried to find a 2001-2004 to buy and keep my truck but they're hard to find in Vegas so just traded my RAM for the 2018 GC. But it's funny how the trail hawk slipped more than the QT2
On my 4th GC - a 2021 Trailhawk with the Hemi, much like the one you tested. I cannot comment on the newest coming out, but having had a 1996, 2008, 2010 and the 2021, the 2021 is the most capable so far. Yes, in the highest setting on the air suspension the ride is very stiff, but all factors considered I'm a big fan of it. That added clearance is hugely beneficial. And you can't downplay the importance of tire choice. I've attempted the same climbs in the same vehicle with basic AT's as well as the KO2's, and the grip was night and day different. I have no doubt you wouldn't get the wheel spin you did had you put the KO2's on the 2021. At the end of the day, I've loved all my Jeeps and interested to see how the 2022 fares in the real world (not that I'll be getting it any time soon!)
i have trailhawk 2019 now use micky tomsom degan AT38 mach better than bf goodrich
AIR SUSPENSION?
@@NYRIKAN yes
Lmao when tommy said “your advanced age has failed you there,” 😂😂😂
I've got a 2020 north edition on an old man emu lift with HD springs it's gotten me into and out of sticky situations pretty well so far. I had an 04 wj rwd which caused me to trade my sports car in for a wk2 within a month. I do wish there were a little more offroad chops to the newer ones though.
I have a 95 ZJ, a 05 WK and a 12 WK2, and although I love them all, the solid Axl totally makes the difference on offroad.
Proud 1999 wj owner has the Quadra drive and the 4.7 l and 216 k mikes running string well taken care of so far so good
I love my old school 03 jeep grand Cherokee Larado 4.0. Wouldn't change for newer model! 👍🏼☺️💕
My zj has different modes for the various scenarios you may encounter during its operation.
Park, Reverse, and Drive.
WJ for me. I had one for 8 years. Great vehicle. I'd get another one if I didn't love my JKUR so much.
That '22 GC is pretty sharp too, but not a fan of that price tag.
If you can keep the body intact ish just swap engine and transmission when needed. It'll last forever.
I loved watching the WJ doing what they do.
Was thinking about changing my 04 WJ today to a pickup or a WK2 Limited. Nah… will spend some money on some KO2s, maybe a RC lift and will continue to rock on happily with no car payments.
My 99’ stock I6 WJ is a beauty, has been for the last 2 and a half years! Just hit 130,000 on it, still not a speck of rust inside or out!
Yours a Quadra Trac like my 99 WJ 4.0?
Nice comparison! However, for the sake of truth, would be nice to also see a WK with newer Quadra Drive II. While it works it works very efficiently.
While the GC's are unibody construction, they have body stiffeners to make them more rigid than a regular unibody.
Also, you may want to do some research on the WJ transmissions. While the 4 speed behind the I6 is known for problems, the 5-speed behind the 4.7 V8 is reliable. I have an '03 Overland with the original transmission at over 215K and it still operates like new. Proper maintenance goes a long way. Same goes for the VariLock axles. They still give me amazing traction.
My wife has a 2002 jeep grand cherokee limited. We searched and found one with a bad engine. I built a 4.7ho motor that has very impressive power. Found the other day the floor has dried blood aaaallllll over. My wife was rear ended and now disabled from the accident. Its a cursed jeep which can only be drivin short distance. Both us are disabled and now income and desperate for a new vehicle. The new jeep is beautiful and just way way to expensive since we couldn't even do Christmas this year is just a dream. Thanks for sharing and great video
We have a 2018 and have takin it thru some decent trails and a shallow river with some big rocks lol and made it. Added a few dents and scratches but I was very surprised.