Black Desert's Brutal Lifeskilling Truths Blue Reacts
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
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40+ fails at 25% in a row. 10/10, most realistic BDO content EVER.
I died laughing and i'm not even 1/4 of the way through the video.
F, rest in piece. when will the funeral be?
I've been playing since beta and as an avid CZcams watcher, this was the best enhancing guide I have ever seen.
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LMFAO the game really wanted to help you make your point
big sadge
I don't understand, Blue. Just click the button and succeed? It's not hard. Just click it.
He just isn't clicking it soft enough
Been binging all your content since watching your sea guide. I like your take on things, and I'm really glad you're not afraid to call stuff out.
Thank you so much for your support and warm comments! Keeps me going through the hard work! God bless it and keep enjoying!
bro genuinely failed something that's marked as 99.999% success rate after 40 attemps..he took it to 45. That's 10x less likely than hitting a pen fallen god
the % rate that is shown is wrong anyway. The way upgrading works in BDO is really shady, everything else is cool.
Hahaha not how that works.@@__-fi6xg
Bruh had to subscribe lol that enhancing part had me in tears
Same. Different kind of tears, but same.
Holy, I thought I was down bad with 28 consecutive duo fails. That's insane.
Shower thought: You have a better chance of dying from a routine surgery than you do hitting some end game enhancements
That TET Clothing experience is exactly like my own. Never gonna attempt a TET Manos EVER again.
25% chance on PRI feels like a lie there. 30+ fails in a row, yep. Then DUO, fail and then 20/30/40 fails again. Every single time.
Also, if you equal the masochistic task of throwing tens, hundreds of hours gathering into the black hole of Manos enhancing to "patience" and "going at your own pace" then you have to be really bored with your life, to a concerning degree. It is the most demotivating thing to do on BDO, period. Heck, if you enhance anything else but life gear you at least get a failstack in return. Manos Accs and clothes give you NOTHING but 10000% frustration.
PS: Unlike Teddy, I do like minmaxing, so I made an extensive sheet that uses updated market prices and I look at it once or twice a week. Crafting TRI manos accs has been somewhat even compared to buying since their prices went up lately, but that is self-farmed and crafted/ alchemy-ed, including the vanadium from nodes etc. TET never breaks even at all, no chance in hell.
For clothes: 25%/20%/15%, by themselves they seem alright, no? In truth though, your chance to get a TET, starting at PRI, is 0,75% or 1 in 133.33 tries, average. Roughly 1.3B in Gems + 3.8B in mems. Magically lands you at the 5.1B mark that is roughly your TET clothes price.
All these are calculated assuming "average chances" (25% chance meaning 1 success in 4 tries) which you can only assume to be roughly true if you do 100k+ tries. For small numbers, we are looking at a lot worse chances but I will not dive that deep into statistics here. Heck, if anyone even bothered reading my comment this far lol.
The TLDR is: It is designed to make you lose out, don't waste your time.
The % chance that enchanting window shows is absolutely a lie.
I strongly suspect there's a global modifier to enchanting, where success rates will wary greatly depending on some factor that's kept hidden from the playerbase.
I've seen similar systems in place for some other games before, where opening loot boxes was bound to what could be described as oscillating graph and any and all crates opened at peak would be high tier loot whereas anything opened outside of that small time frame would be entirely random or capped to medium tier loot.
Some guilds actually spent a great deal of money trying to figure out the seed for the variance, with limited success.
The only system I think that gives manos enhancing a run for its money is alchemy stone upgrading.
Interesting on the react to the Teddy video. I been a fan for a while and argue with him about things and praise when it is due. He has Altinova set up to make those Silver Embroydered and that is the culmination of months of work. But the guy literally gathers everything to give to his workers, and I mean it seems like it is free, and he hates spreadsheets and math, and I empathize there. He hates the lifeskill discord because he misleads people that come in there and they dis him. He says he don't want to min max but he doesn't understand what that means. 1-2% of profit is the min maxing, but he is often 40% off and you can't get through to him about it and opportunity cost. So like you showed, and the best players warn you not to upgrade accessories and things that will downgrade because it is a HUGE loss in most cases, that isn't meta, that isn't min maxing, that is literally wasting your time, which can be tracked and added up. It really wouldn't be such a big deal if he wasn't making content explaining how to do the things, even though he specifies it isn't the best way.
Still entertaining, and he is a great human being making content sharing what he enjoys, so more power to him, and people learn in their own way, we all do.
Nice work on this Blue, very entertaining!
I watched a few of Teddy's videos. He lies and makes stuff up. A. LOT.
And then he responds in some variation of "I troll you lol" to the comments that calls him out, or straight up deletes them. Beside "it's chill and refreshing" take (that isn't even his, it's been the motto of lifeskilling community for ages) I can't name a damn thing he said that held true for me after I hit purple ranks in every profession. I'm pretty sure he's also infamous among western lifeskilling community for that same reason, and a lot of his videos get rightfully ratio'd.
Sure, it's one thing to play chill and not minmax, but it's completely different to not even bother doing the bare minimum research required, then just make stuff up based on your surface-level experience, which was the exact thing Teddy did in all his videos I watched, before I grew wise to it after playing lifeskills myself.
guy seems like absolute baboon with 0 substance to take from his video to be very blunt. I think it's pretty much way beneficial for me to go to some other proper life skilling content creators that are far better knowledged and actually informative than just "play the game on your pace man haha". IMO Blue failing pri tap had just as much information as this video.
I guess I must be just that minmaxer that he likes to mock so much :P
Exactly i watched his video about trading crates and milions made by him this way , made my calculation and it shows he selling it below market prize !!! plus all the effort make it, transported and so on.
Is that 0.00023864747% chance to happen? Is my math right? The oral surgeon I went to see gave it 0.001% chance that one side of my face will go numb forever after removing my wisdom tooth. Guess I'll keep my wisdom tooth.
Its 0.0003182% if you only account for the 44 fails in a row.
i wouldnt call that unlucky, he "won" a 0.0003182% XD thats a pen fg lmao
@@hexdreams right
bro had a higher chance of hitting a pen fallen god with 0 fails stacks by 10 times than failing that 44 times in a row
THE CLOTHES ENHANCING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
These videos are way more fun when they're not targeted at you 😂 poor Teddy...
The important thing to understand is that none of it is ever personal or malicious. I do try to point out my perspective in as funny a way as possible.
@@bluesquadronlive We're tight & clean about it!
On average people will spend more upgrading then buying outright, his advice is horrific for new players in this regard.
45 in a row Jesus, he must be the unluckiest guy
you must be a gacha player come back to reality 25% is low chance sure 45 in a row is bad but 25% is realy low chance i would not bet anything that is important to me on that low chance. my personal best is 31 in a row
25% isn't 'really low'. 1% is. That's 1 in 4, it shouldn't take 45 times or 31, like damn@@RavenoseCNG
@@RavenoseCNG Yeah terrible take. Other guy already told you that's a 1 in 4 chance to succeed. Failing 45 times is over 11 TIMES the average. That's horrendous luck. That should've been 11 successes which makes the loss that much more staggering.
gotta be the best rage enhancing video I've seen.
Wow. Failing 25% 44 time in a row is literally a 0.0003182% chance of happening. You should have bought a lottery ticket instead xD
The rage Manos enhancing had me falling out of my chair. Excellently done.
Rapolas tappin PEN BS 3rd click 5% … Meanwhile Blue is failing 45 click in a row at 25% 😂
3,2311742677852643549664402033983e-25 is the %chance of missing a 25% chance success rate 44 times in a row, truly beautiful sir, hats off!
Yooo Blue never cook this hard again ahhhhhhhh
0,0003182% chance go fail 25% 44 times in a row
some lifeskillers are playing a different game
now this is high quality content
I honestly don't know how you're not more popular in the bdo community because every vid I watch of yours is so fucking good. You got such a funny and amazing personality, pls keep up the good work.
Thanks so much! I am still relatively new to content creation when you compare me to top creators in the category. I only started trying to stream in February of 2022. So we are a year and a half into streaming, and I started really trying to jump into youtube over the summer starting in June of 2023. I have been stunned by the success and the constant feedback on this feeds into my drive to deliver consistently better content week to week. Thank you.
memes aside, why is that even possible?
2 minutes into the video and im liking this already, good stuff man thanks for the laugh!
Was watching this and thought to myself, "I should try this" and got the tet in 10 tries
You fuckin crack me up you do 😂
So something I have struggled with as someone who enjoys lifeskilling - disregarding the argument of making vs buying, the mastery manos accessories or clothes gives you just doesn't justify the costs (at least for gathering, where it is easy to calculate that). I calculated it at one point, don't know where it is now (if I even wrote it down), but there is a chart on like Garmoth or maybe BDOlytics that shows what you get for each bracket of gathering mastery. Compare your current bracket to the one you would reach with a manos gear, then see how many hours of gathering it would take you to make the silver back if you were to buy that gear. The higher enhancement you go, the long it will take you to pay it off. It takes something stupid like 400 hours to pay off a TET manos accessory. Yes, likeskilling is relaxing and I enjoy it, but I'm not making money if I'm buying manos gear, or even making it. I make more silver by selling the gear I make, or just don't spend the silver to buy it
Reported for sabotaging my nodewar. I have to fight in 10 min and now my stomach is aching from laughing so hard.
That was literally almost a million to 1. If thats commonplace then BDO is faking its rng chances. failing 16 times in a row is 1% (0.75^16)
So failing 44 times is in the astronomical/lottery level.
Wow, and I thought I was bad at enhancing.
One of Teddies guides came up randomly on my feed. It's actually what enticed me to play the game. The overall sandbox way you can play is fantastic. You don't always have to be the most efficient, enjoy what you are doing
im so glad this was uploaded, i lmao during the stream watching this reaction KEKW
I agree with both sides here. Like Blue says at 14:30 it can be cheaper on average to make your own manos but it requires a lot of effort and other factors that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to do. Just buy your gear whenever possible and save yourself the headache.
omg im in tears here, your face cam looks are epic also haha
Fucking gold 😂
That 25% chance is a lie.
Also the hotspot fishing event should be the standard all the time to make hotspot fishing somewhat okay.
Wow, you are so lucky man 🤣🤣🤣
StREamEr RnG
Blue I watched this and was inspired to tap away. Bought 100 stones and began to tap. Told myself if I get a TET ill attempt PEN (it was on Manos Trainer Clothes and I don't train horses much). I shit you not, it one tapped PEN.
I must thank you for the inspiration good sir. PEN trainers Clothes courtesy of Blue! ❤
- Awabi (NA)
Go ahead and upload the video for us to see and congratulate you
Reported.
@dzudemlow Didn't take a video, but listed it a minute ago. Should be on the market in a few. If you buy it you will see my name on it. XD
I agree with you and Teddy :) BDO is a sandbox for a reason. There is so much to discover here that simply focusing only on earning as much silver as possible is a huge waste of fun ! When it comes to enchanting life gear, I put all three of my TET Manos Clothes on my own, but the first time I was very lucky, the second time as well and I came out in plus, the third time I struggled longer and went to zero. However, I don't recommend enchanting TET alone, it's better to just buy it from the market. Accessories I have full TRI Manos, most for Seals, two bought at the market. I tried once out of curiosity to enchant Manos accessories that I made myself (from materials collected by workers) but it's pointless. First of all, a huge waste of time just doing manufacture Base, and a lot of CBS. Someone who already plays end-game, gets bored, can have fun with it. But the easiest way to increase the amount of Mastery, now it's best to just put new Vital Crystal from LoML :) Guaranteed gains without RNG ;P
Hey Blue, Id recommend succeeding next time instead of failing 45 times in a row. Just a suggestion!
Ah so this is why they added enhancement pity to the game, thank you for your service sir!
You win 1000% of your money in gambling and only lose 100% of it. 😂😂😂😂
some ppls just never struggle
The chance of getting 44 fails in a row with a 75% is = 0.000003%
As a new player i truly appreciate videos like this.....cold hard truth lol
Omg, you did it all wrong. Just click the damn button and focus on your inner spirit…
Just click it better Blue. 😂
Just tap it Blue
I need a priest
Two years ago when i could barely make 500mil from two hours of lifeskilling like lumbering/butchering , i was going for tet gatherers manos clothes and once failed 25 times for duo straight, which was spread over multiple days. It is insanely extremely irreversably damaging especialy when youre NOT making bilion or two a day xD
Man wtf, I just got back into BDO and stumbled across you. You are so fuckin hilarious I can’t wait to tap into a stream. You have amazing humor it has a Sam Heide kinda ngf vibe. Wish I found you sooner man keep it up! Maybe we could play sometime and have some laughs.
I wish they would add a safety feature to enchant LS like crons to protect from roll back until then after my bad experience with not being able to even get it to go past 10+ I won’t even try it again
You are suffering to get a tri, while I bought 24 cooking manos tet, each one of them failed to pen... that is heartbreaking.
Plot twist the guy is just flexing his gear😂 and shows himself succeeding as a humble flex.
Amazing content bro LMFAO
I think I got similar way to Blue progress. "3 clicks" is the best way to do it within a month bought 3 pen manos clothes from market. Teddy maybe have some content but for me veteran of lifeskills in BDO this guy sometimes have no clue what he is doing for real.
8:10 litterally gambling
As a f2p i mostly lifeskill. All i grind is realy cents for an hour in the morning with my coffe to blow agris everyday and once a month elvia spot for an hour or two to eventualy get my cups. I was lifeskilling only for 3 years and im only making a grinder this year. Only thing i ever enhanced is tet manos hunters clothes cuz i couldnt buy it on CM. And i click my tet BS main once in a blue moon. With daily cents and imperial guru cooking i make more then enough money to eventualy buy whatever i want. Yea dont enchance unless you have to, if this video wasnt clear enough
Bro... I fucking love your content, will keep an eye on when you're streaming so I can sub :)
MAN 3 PENS IN FAILS IM SO DEAD (got to love bdo)
Bro I can't believe it...I feel sometimes the BDO enhancement % is just broken behind the scenes, rolling against the wrong success rate....it's so unlikely for this to happen that I tend to believe the bug I mentioned...
This Teddy guys is soooo evil to convince people to enhance manos gear and acc. OMG.
I had 22 attempts on 10+ fishy clothes and it never went I said screw this after that and bought Tri to hold me over till I can get the Tri accessories and Tett chest lol
I mean the way I looked at it if it was that bad at 10+ getting to Tett was gonna be a nightmare lol
I have full enhanced TET Manos clothes and lifeskills.. the pain is real...
Same. Very horrendously same.
Edit: Screw w/e else i had to say 45 attempts to get a Duo, makes this game look like hot freaking garbage and PA thinks they don't need fail protections!!! What the fuck! Dude's just happy to have the duo.
PA: We investigated and noticed you are participating in 'Shai content' despite not being a Shai. This difficulty was not meant for real classes.
feels good now i seen this video because im one of this people who just buy TET manos stuff and not click anything
Give luck (skip power enchanted) for my bro
For me the problem with this all "begginers guides" is a mental of this ppl they just mean "HEY GUYS IS JUST THAT EASY U CLICK TET MANOS AND U DONT WASTE UR 27 BIL ENJOY BDO". But no one talks about that how bad u will feel when u just dont click this in 4 fcking clicks. I know this is the BDO element enchancing but getting money to buy ur goal item is better for me. sorry for my english if its bad ;/
Truth is that if u make everything yourself u save at least 15to20% XD love your con tent
There no way I could have bought all my gear I spent way less then saving billions to buy one piece
My tet hunters cost me ~20b to self make. Clearly i shouldve watched the video first 😂
HEY the guy with 102 fs 110fs pen bs mena here anyways thats not the case the case is i maxed a tet aeris manos craftsman clothing i lost my mind that day :D but hey i did it myself
lol 45 duo manos fail = 90 pen acc fail chance
i wonder if the person who followed that enhancing guide just bought my 2000 black stones in a second.
i enjoy afk fishing =) so i can watch your videos =)))
And I thought I was unlucky. Seriously though, it must be hardware-related; your mouse isn't clicking properly.
I was thinking of getting the sailboat with my shakatu coins lol.
Don't do it! 😄Getting one by upgrading the Bartali Sailboat takes a little bit of effort but isn't that bad.
haha loved this man!
dumb question, if I'm to buy the gear, someone went through the shitty experience of failing, yet they sell it for less than what it would have taken me to do it? How do the people who make and sell the gear succeed at such a lower cost?
They are lucky.
those people are really making money when they sell it
There's an underlying assumption here that they had a shitty experience of failing and stopped there, and also an underlying assumption that they're tapping the gear they need without already owning backups. Enhancing for profit involves overcoming sheer attrition and going really deep into gambler fallacy, all the people I know simply do it A LOT and don't really care about fails as much because the cope mentality is that the failstack will eventually pay off while many of us, including myself, would quit at the first few fails. I know from numerous people that have "enhanced for profit" that, over the course of tens of dozens of accessories, it's an overall profit, but they could go for loooong streaks of losing before turning around and one-tap several in a row for 50-60 bil gain.
Part of me wonders if that's just because they enjoy the experience or if it is actually reasonable to progress that way, but I can say this: even those people say to just buy your own gear and keep it equipped. There's no point in potentially tossing your entire bottom line off of gambling, that shit feels the absolute worst when you blow up your own TET Blackstar or TET Disto in hopes for a PEN. Just make a second piece of gear to tap, and always have a backup if you do choose to tap your own gear.
Getting lucky helps. But they can use artisans and craft the stones themselves which also shaves the price down. Ultimately they enhance so much that they are trying to hit law of averages and turn a profit.
Tbh i dont know anybody who is mental enough to profit enhance Manos Clothes or Accessoires because the profit margin isnt even that large compared to other stuff, because the investment is so high. Partially because you cant even use stacks on them nobody finds them really attractive to profit enhance. My wild guess is that the enhanced pieces switch owners quite frequently, because lets real Lifeskilling isnt that much money if you dont sink a lot of time into understanding how the market works, how taxes work (some Lifeskillers i knew never understood that taxes exist), how much money per hour you actually have so people try out lifeskilling and quit it right away because they didnt invest the time to do their research. So my assumption is that some lifeskill gear pieces see a lot of different owners before someone buys them and quits the game, for example the hunting boom we saw when LoML hit, nobody in his right mind is still hunting LoML yet "everybody" bought Hunting Clothes.
If you wanted to make big bank with artisans you just profit enhanced Tet Blackstars in the past, maybe you can do this still i dont know the math behind that. Currently the profit enhancing market is drying up because we see a lot of silver inflation and the prices of Accessoires are currently really bad.
Considering what goes on in the rest of the video, you got _really_ fucking lucky at 2:35 and didn't even notice
That’s what she said…
I hope you take this as a compliment, but I think you're the Don Rickles of BDO. I may start making videos in hopes of getting roasted too
TALLEST of compliments
Thanks for the great enhancement guide for me to remember to NEVER enhance ANYTHING
Just a FYI for anyone watching this. Teddy is a complete joke on the lifeskill discord. He is notorious for giving bad advice, wrong advice, not understanding basic math, and have no comprehension about opportunity cost.
Lol, dude. This game is about a Privateering adventure. If all you are doing is grinding for gear to play a single feature (like PvP); you're gonna miss out on two thirds of the game. - A lot of lifeskillers say you should start as early as possible on the RPG side; and theres a lot of logic in that statement. Lifeskilling is not something PA are ever gonna relent on, purely because they've painstakingly crafted all this logistics, procurement and acquisitions that is the reason for this RPG system in the first place.
At the top end, CP is certainly more important than energy. Its only early on you are doing things manually. After a certain point, a lot of what you are doing becomes automated through workers. Your energy requirements are a lot less. - obviously setting yourself up as a magnate is gonna pay off, a lot more than relying on no-lifing the game. The real question is "can you be bothered?".
eventually they will have to make enhancing easier, its the biggest complaint about the game
Not sure why I watch all this guys videos cant even tap tet manos gear yikes...
absolutely ridiculous. enhancing is so tilting
then who are the players that enhance and sell those in cm? 🤔
Blue trying to hit gear is the same reaction from people who submit gear reviews. Just hit the thing GGEZ PEN
the enhancing your gear stuff is just bs tbh. there is a reason why new player have tuvala and jetina and caphras for grind gear. I calculated the average cost of life skill gear in 2022. unfortunatly i dont have the excel sheet, but because you have fixed % it still true. if you make the amor form scratch or buy base, you loose money until you hit pri compared to buying pri at max price. you then gain some profit even after tax by buying pri and selling tri (its really not much, dont bother undless you have the materials at hand and artisans) both at max price. you loose silver on tets by about 0.5-1bil iirc befor tax. its just not worth it.
but the best point is: you dont use your main gear do you? lets say you make you logia tet. and now you want manos tet clothes, tri accessories. you want to tell me its smarter to have a second set of gear you enhance on thats multiple times the cost of your current gear, and then you fail on that until you have it up? instead of selling the materials, selling your own gear, skipping the second gear and buying it without any rng? like you probably already have half of the full cost, if you want to start enhancing clothes, but low and behold, here iam to gamble? even worse if you have tri manos clothes already lol.
mind you i did the math befor the material price increase, but from the perspective you buy everything at max price. you at best make +/- 0. manos accessories should be a bit of profit, but you making 5 not 500. you cant expect average.
hey blue do you have a set time you go live on twitch i always seem to miss you . can you post it in the youtube show notes please
Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. I am live at 8pm central Except on Sunday where I start up around 5pm and as late as 8pm depending on the day. If you would ever like to know my schedule or get notified my discord is a good place, it is also input on the schedule channel of my twitch page. Likewise I try to post on twitter when I go live. I can start announcing it to my community here as well as putting it in the video descriptions in the future. Good feedback ty.
i am absolutely convinced DUO manos isnt 25%
I went through my journal and turns out i got an effective 11% over months...