Psychologist Trainee Fail: My Supervisor Called me a Cheeky Smarta**
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Psychologist Trainee Fail: My Supervisor Called me a Cheeky Smarta**
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I cannot stand people in positions of power who abuse the authority given to them. On top of that there needs to be strict guidelines for supervisors to keep them accountable. Well if only she could see you now.
Thank you for sharing such a raw and vulnerable experience you had - that took guts.
On a brighter note, congratulations on your new home and showing us a bit of the place 🏡🚚🧿🗝🎊📦🧧🛋
Love the concept of this video! I think when we are first starting out as young, anxious therapists our negative experiences with supervisors can really shape us. I remember being excited to leave my first therapy job for a new opportunity and was yelled at by my supervisor for only giving 2 weeks notice that I was leaving, because my new job needed me to start right away (although no where did I sign anything saying I needed to give more or was that ever communicated to me). It was clearly her anxiety of needing to fill my position once I left but for the longest time I beat myself up over this thinking i did something terribly wrong. I then had major anxiety every time I needed to leave a job.
Those kind of interactions can really stick with someone, and it's so unfortunate. Something similar occurred during my first clinical job out of school. After securing another role at a different organization, I provided my two weeks notice. My program manager (not a clinician) criticized me for not providing more notice. He was visibly angry at me. Confused by his reaction, I explained that two weeks is standard notice. He said he had been told (by whom, I don't know) that clinicians/case managers should give between 3-4 weeks notice. I told him that no one at the organization had relayed this information to me, so I didn't have an opportunity to meet this expectation. My explanation didn't seem to soothe his anger. Leaving this position on that kind of note was definitely disappointing!
Love your vulnerability. You're definitely not alone in a bad grad school supervisor/teacher experience. For sure!! One of my supervisors was a sociopath and liked to see people fail. Wish I was joking.
You’re definitely not the only one that has experienced this. I have experienced significant “sibling rivalry” where one feels often compared to or just inadequate in comparison to other colleagues. Or, the sharing of things that I thought would be confidential only to be used against me. It’s been a difficult process but all in all I have learned of the kind of supervisor I do not want to be and in the long run I know it was a training ground to lead others through a supervision process that will bring out the best in them.
That is when the saying "it's not about you it's about them" applies. I think it's great for you to share and vent and for closure! I am a supervisor now and really feel that a compassionate and encouraging approach is best. Love your clips!
Hello Dr. Fang, thank you for talking about one of the crazy issues that interns/associates/etc can have whilst working hard to make themselves the best therapists that they can be. I think you beat me to it, because in the back of my mind for the past couple of years, I've been contemplating a book about the "intern experience," about how we may default to the thinking that, just because we are trying to learn under whom we assume are experts, that every decision we make, we can be at fault, or in the wrong, or G-d forbid, unethical!! (scariest word ev-er!). I appreciate your wisdom. :)
people who tell others they are being a "smarta**" are so infuriating to me. They are just dismissive overly sensitive jerks with no sense of emotional stability.
I have struggled with imposter syndrome and I think it has led to some weird mischaracterizations and misrepresentations of myself to my supervisors. I had one supervisor who was known to struggle with confrontation of employees, so if there was an issue it typically festered for a while before she brought it up. Employees had to have licensure, but new employees were required to do weekly supervision for the first 6mo. During those conversations, I felt like I was bringing issues appropriately to supervision, but looking back there may have been a few things that I thought I had a good handle on that wouldn't have hurt to get some thoughts on. The months passed, and as a licensed professional, I wasn't having major client conflicts or concerns on a weekly basis like a student might, so much of our supervision time was spend reflecting on me, my overall thoughts and growth as a clinician, some minor clients updates, what have you. (This clinic also trained practicum students still on their programs, who she also supervised) I'd notice that a lot of the guidance she was giving me I had already considered or planned to do, so in my head I'm like "what am I saying wrong?"
At my 6mo review (after a pretty solid and positive 3mo evaluation) I got my probation extended to another six months and my supervisor said she felt like I was "bullshitting" her and hiding things from her, which made her question the quality of my work. She began reviewing every single case note and gave clinical feedback or asked processing questions about each one, and I feel much of the time it had been something I either had forgotten to capture or I apparently didn't capture it clearly, so I'd end up rewording it to make more sense to her.
At this point I've been accused of being surreptitious in my work, my every move is being scrutinized, and I wanted to do right by her. So I decided to do something - which in retrospect feels like an overcorrection - and I brought *everything* to the table, including things that I was insecure about or didn't have confidence in as a relatively newly licensed clinician. (For example, diagnostics. I'm always so anxious about my diagnostics and worried that I'm missing a symptom or missing a piece, but my friend who is also a therapist who I've consulted with seemed right along track with me any time I'd ask her). So now, my lack of confidence and me exposing all of my insecurities came across as incompetence to my supervisor, which didn't exactly build her confidence in me.
Long story short, I talked to her about quitting before she could fire me. I had other tensions in that office that looking back now I'm definitely not proud of, but this supervision experience still drives a lot of my second guessing and doubt in myself.
Thank you sooo much for sharing this!! I am about to graduate with my MSW, and had some challenges in supervision. This vulnerability is so helpful to me.
I’m still a grad student, and I’ve definitely experienced insensitivity from those who are more experienced that myself. It sucks! Thank you for sharing ❤️
If her manager spoke to me that way, SHE would need about 2 years of therapy to get over the a$$ chewing I gave her. But you dealt with it well.
Thank you so much for sharing! Yes please share more, it’s sadly so incredibly relatable 💛
This is so helpful! More content like this please!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I have reflected on my training and professional work too. Some of the environments were very unhealthy. I remember making a mistake at one point and would have appreciated more instruction or insight so I could learn from it.
I carried a lot of shame about that experience.
Congratulations on your new home! That is exciting 😀
Thank you for sharing your experience. I've been missing your new videos, and need to catch up soon 🤗🙌
I don’t mind an off the script video. I love having found your channel! I hope to be moving during the pandemic too and if we are lucky I’ll be making a study into a tele therapy office along with you for my side gig new practice here in Texas. Closing date set for June 30!
Congrats on all the above! Best wishes to you!
Great video. I’m thinking about going back to school and (despite these scary stories) you are so inspiring!!
I have had some interesting 🤔 experiences with supervisors. I will say I feel like the closer I got to be fully licensed I sense more critical supervisors. Now in group practice I started off great the first few months with clients. However, after the covid situation retention rates have decreased somewhat. Now my supervisor wants me to tape record my sessions now that she has went to a supervisor trainer. Now she is treating me as an intern. She always monitored my work as well as the other counselor and I usually get get feedback. Now all of a sudden I’m not where I should be as a counselor in private practice. I’m at the point after 8 years of this field I’m ready to work on my own or change practices. I have four months left on this contract...I’m on panels and I also work part time elsewhere which I did not tell my supervisor. Not sure if i should!!! Thanks for your videos they are helpful!!!
That's a lot to navigate! I hope you find a peaceful solution soon!
Private Practice Skills me too!!! I'll probably due better with a private practice and finishing my doctorate degree 🎓