Garmin Edge 540/840/1040 Big Feature Beta: Full Details!
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Garmin has released its public beta of the Edge 1050 features, for the Edge 540/840/1040 units.
Here's the links to the betas:
Garmin Edge 540/840: forums.garmin.com/beta-progra...
Garmin Edge 1040 beta: forums.garmin.com/beta-progra...
This allows those that are eager to start reporting that angry dog down the street as a 'road hazard' (or Dairy Queen as an obstruction), you can now do so. All of the non-hardware features of the Edge 1050 were released last night in public beta to the Edge 540, 840, 1040. The Edge Explore 2 public beta hasn’t quite shown up yet.I do want to briefly acknowledge that I think this is the first time Garmin actually pulled off both new device + beta firmware for existing devices on the *same day*.
Historically, that gap of new features coming to older devices has been anywhere from weeks to ‘never’. Back earlier this month when I met with the Edge team, they said their goal was to release it the same day as the Edge 1050. I smiled and said “That’s great!”, while inside my head I said “Uh-huh…sure you will just like my kids will pickup the Legos on the floor”. Thus, kudos to them for actually pulling it off.I legitimately think it makes a difference, from a brand perception standpoint, when companies do that. It’s become slightly more popular over the last few years, but is still somewhat rare to do concurrent-day stuff like that.In any case, onto the details!
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Might need a way to turn off pothole detection in the UK - will be a never ending stream of notifications
You can turn off Hazard alerts per profile. Thus, you could have a UK profile or a Belgium profile, and shut it off entirely.
Haha
It’s actually ridiculous, about 18 months ago it flipped from being nervous about driver to being nervous about the roads for me. It’s now impossible for me to go at a reasonable speed on roads I don’t know because the roads are so bad, I don’t know how I haven’t broken a wheel yet
The UK implementation needs a feature for automated direct uploading of pothole reports to the DfT and local authorities. Likewise, about 40 to 45 US states really could use direct uplinks to their respective DOTs and just about every major rust belt city in the US needs an upload to their 311 service or streets & sanitation departments.
You should ride in Mexico to know what is to have real potholes 😅
We need a "there's no pothole" alert in Belgium. 😂
Living on the other side of the border, I avoid as much as possible to ride in Belgium. Gravel paths are better than their roads. And drivers are the worst : every time I feel a passing car brushing me on the bike, I watch the license plate, and it's a “red” one…
Me with my 530, crying in the corner 😭
mee2
I know the feeling... but in 5 yrs when it's time for a cyclocomputer upgrade... you know the technology will be foolproof then...
Same here, except I have the 830 haha.
Also a 830, but only looking up when the 850 arrives…
520 and still going ! (looking to buy a 1050 though :P)
What a helpfull video. Never knew about the Beta program. Those hazard, surface and map update options are great.
Enjoy!
Not enough detail on where to find that beta program setting. I looked on device, app and website with no luck. @@Dcrainmaker
I am still using my 530 unit but have been wanting to upgrade for a while. I like the fact that Garmin seems to always be very generous with releasing new units with new functionalities but also allowing for the same new features to be available for older devices, so while the 1050 looks awesome it also comes with a matching price tag and since I like the smaller physical size anyway I might just get the 840 when I decide to upgrade. Also the 840 has got buttons as well as touch screen, which is another thing I really prefer.
generous? they only give the features to the last generation and i am assuming that is because they have to keep the 1040 around because of the massive hit to battery life that screen has on the 1050. They are stingy beyond belief especially for devices that cost the equivalent of a mid/high end phone.
@@vrapan I think the reason is that the 530 and 1030 are too old and with too outdated processors to deal with the new functionalities offered. This happens across all brands simply because tech moves forward at quite a pace and rather than getting into all sorts of problems with things that won’t run on old units the old units just do not get these updates. Exactly the same happens with all IT and similar tech regardless of brand.
@@_J.F_ erm fully aware, no need to be patronising. 1030 Plus is only 4 years old, this is not a huge amount of time so literally if you haven't bought something in the last year you are SOL. I consider Garmin very much on the pinnacle of planned obsolesence cutting support off too soon and knowngly using underpowered hardware.
More likely, updates relate as much to bug fixes as they do to new features.
@@vrapan I was not being patronising but just explained what I feel the reason behind it is. No one forces you to read, or indeed comment on my comment, so no need to get unduly offended.
Garmin needs to add the magpie attack option for the hazard reporting for us Aussies out there 🤣
Maybe with the speaker, it can sound an air raid siren. 😅
God, I hope the gradient responsiveness also comes to the watches. Been doing some runs in the mountains in the past days and it's just so incredibly slow and sometimes doesn't even register really high gradients above 11% at all.
The map manager on unit itself is so nice, using the PC Garmin app was always a huge PITA.
What would really improve safety is if they fixed the Varia 0:9 errors that block the whole screen every 20 minutes.
LITERALLY 20 minutes is kind of generous, tbh. I did an 8.5 hour ride saturday and there were parts where I would get them every minute it seemed. But about halfway through the ride, I stopped getting them for some reason. No clue why.
@@loganjackson9559 I think it's to do with Radar interference. I get it in the same places every time.
Would be nice if that stamina in power guide feature can be adapted to the pace pro feature for runs on watches.
Excellent news for the 1040 crowd. As a 1030+ I'm still out in the cold, but happy they didnt just drop the 1040
No more updates for the 1030+?
To clarify: still getting some, but Garmin intentionally lessened the cadence of updates that could have easily gone to the 1030+ (ClimbPro everywhere, etc) as soon as they released the x40-series. GPLama noted that Garmin cut off top-tier support to the 1030+ way too soon - - hoping this doesn't happen for the 1040 owners
Combined with the few lines of dead pixels that have appeared at the bottom of my 520's screen, this might be a good time to upgrade.
Maybe halt for the 550 or 850?
@@ev-ezaye3580 the 520 was released in 2015. the 530 was released in 2019. The 540 was released in 2023. Assuming the pattern will repeat, that puts the 550 in 2027. Probably not worth waiting that long if the 520 is on its way out.
Cool stuff. Hope this gets stable quite soon. 👍
I hope the improved gradient support comes to the Explore 2. Although, it might be a good time to upgrade, because no matter what I can’t turn off laps. It’s off in the menus but adds a lap & annoying onscreen notification every time I hit the breaks moderately hard.
Nice, makes me wanna upgrade my 530 for the...840 !
Yay! Thanks Garmin and as always thanks Ray
830 gang 🥲
520 gang, beat that 😂
530 and not changing it
It's Garmin's way of saying [not mine] give me more money or screw off. Activation of unplanned climb-pro comes to mind, they asked users [X30] what would you like to see updated and climb-pro was top on the list so they only put it on the just released X40s.
😂😂😂😂 Edge 1000 gang???@@sadhitrac6479
Dang what about the 830
Any news of updates to #30 models or being a few years old are they obsolete now
So can you finally enter and setup a bike tour in The Netherlands with the 'knooppunten'? So on the display you also see when approaching a knooppunt....?
Seems that while downloading maps through Map Manager, Edge 840 goes into sleep after 15 minutes or so if you do not keep it alive by pressing buttons or tapping screen frequently.
I’d report the bug!
Turn off auto sleep in your activity profile
Will definitely appreciate the fast gradient calculations, I do quite a bit of climbs and it's pretty funny seeing 10% when it's actually 18% or doing U type descents where it's still showing climbs when I'm descending already. What I'd really appreciate is if they somehow managed to make the "Instant Phone Keyboard" feature that Garmin watches have available to Edge units. I'd like to type from my phone than using the somewhat clunky keyboard layout on my edge.
but are they going to solve the SSID WiFi bug (it can't communicate directly with WiFi with a hidden SSID) or the idiotic auto screen brightness setting on the Garmin 840 that sets the brightness way too low in dim light? I don't see either on the list of changes.
Those group ride awards are fun!
Is the 1040 likely to come down in price now? Been waiting to buy my first bike computer and was leaning towards to roam v2 but if this drops might be a better option due to multiple bike profiles and off road directions.
Thanks Ray. Will the new features impact battery life on the 1040?
We'll have to see, but I wouldn't expect it to meaningfully. None of the new things are big battery drains.
Sort of, updated it this afternoon, and now my 1040 is terribly slow and uses more battery than usual.
Garmin just popped the dummy back into the mouths of the x40 users :D
Hey ray i have watched the review and saw that the mount location on the back is more in the middle now. Does this make problems for outfrontmounts on integrated handlebars? My 1040 barely fits u can barely press the lap button on my roval rapide habdlebar.
For some mounts, it might be a problem. It's basically shifted about 6-7mm. I used the existing K-Edge XL mount, and it just barely fit.
Any chance you can push a course to the device via Bluetooth without an internet connection?
ie, bikepacking off grid and pushing a revised course
How can I divide the climb pro screen and still see the map? Mines 1040 solar.
Wait, but was the most important feature added i.e. the bell??
No.4 will be my favourite:)
I cannot wait for new 2024 Garmin watch modells continue Forefunner 965 and Epix Pro
Is the Beta programme only available to US users? I cant seem to see the option to sign up?
Nope, anyone. On Garmin Connect web, you’ll see the option after choosing your device (upper right icon)
I hope road hazard support also comes to the fenix lineup..
When will come a new 130 plus?
A great update would be to make unified training status work
Out of curiosity, which devices do you have today, that don't work together?
(Mine works pretty darn well these days, but I've found having specific settings is key to actually making it work)
Awesome news! Thanks for sharing!
The newly updated data field editing options are the only thing I would really want from the 1050 or this update. I'm not seeing it anywhere, am I missing something?
Doesn’t seem like that’s in the current plans.
@@Dcrainmaker yeah, I’m now trying to get the beta firmware off my device… seems like I have to do a device reset for that?
How do you "unreport" a road hazard, or will they stay on the map forever?
Basically you can tap it, and say no longer there. As long as 50% of the reports say it’s not there, it’ll go away.
these group ride features seem cool and all, but i really don’t think they'd be usable unless they're intuitive & require little to no effort. the current group track features don’t work easily; i tried to have my mom show up on my map, and despite her being one of my garmin connections and us both having live track enabled we couldn't see each other on our maps.
if garmin requires people to be connections, have live track and group track enabled, have the route running, and have a consistent phone connection, i don’t think it would come up.
i have borrowed a wahoo from a family member and was pleasantly surprised to see other wahoo users on the map despite me not initiating anything, having the route running, or being "friends" with them in any way
I am not seeing the share on my 840, does there need to be another edge nearby for it to show up, I am on the latest firmware.
You need to be on the latest beta firmware after enrolling on the program.
Amy news on this Beta coming available on Edge Explore 2 yet? I'm already signed up to the beta program
will the garmin share be compatibile with old sharing on edge x30?
Sadly not
Does upgrading from 830 to 840 makes sense? I use powermeter and ride around 200km a week
No
@@erwinretamales7211Yes. Definitely no
@@erwinretamales7211 why no
Is reporting hazards count from the point you first touched the right category or when submitting it? Waze invented to work precisely marking the point from where you first touched it. It can lead to misunderstandings otherwise.
Oh, and do you have to have a route loaded or works in free ride aswell?
From first touch.
Why can't they implement the bell using the beeper? It wouldn't sound as nice but it would still be useful.
Because it wouldn’t sound like a bell…
Kopje van Bloemendaal, let's go!
I thought the regular releases of Garmin Edge software was already beta-releases....
I am in process switching form Wahoo to Garmin 840. I use Strava premium. I dont see Strava rides that were recorded on Wahoo Roam in my Garmin Connect feed. Is that my fault or a limitation?
Limitation. You have to export your Strava data and import them into Garmin Connect. I did the same recently, and it was a hassle, but worth it.
@@hooked3841 Thanks for the reply. Can you "batch" process all the rides so it doesn't take forever?
@@brianbrackemyre5704 you can use a thirdparty tool like tapiriik to auto sync (incl old activities).
Those group ride features are awesome. Just need friends to get rid of their Wahoos 😂
Is it just me or is the display of the 1040 nicer than that of the new 1050. You can see the pixels at 0:46 like in an old BMP file from Windows 98. There are no pixels visible on the 1040.
It's just you. ;) If there's any pixel-type stuff shown, it's a camera artifact, not something you'd see in real life.
Noice
Will Garmin bring sharing to the forerunner series? I’d love to be able to share workouts I’ve created with my running group
Will the xx40 devices get the same home screen with the update as the new xx50 devices?
No, they don’t have the processing power for it.
Wish they would finally add an option to make the navigation triangle bigger ! It’s just far too small… I know I’m not the only one asking for this … others have a great sized triangle but garmin Christ it’s small
Am I the only one who wishes they would add ebike assist level to the di2 shifter buttons? Seems like an obvious thing
I have a relatively new 1040 and enabled the public beta, yet I don't see any software update.
use the link given above to the Garmin forums and side load. Won't come up in Connect.
@@danielbliss1988 That forum post essentially tells me to do a normal upgrade and I still show "no updates".
That's weird, I also have a 1040 (non-solar) and after enabling the update it took a minute or 5 before it found the update. Maybe they roll out the update region based?
@@MrEDET Turns out it worked after all, though it took several hours for the update to be recognized.
Great news. Looks like I will try thr Edge 1040 now that it's discounted. Finding the mixed Wahoo (Roam v2)/Garmin (Epix) ecosystems to be confusing as anything recorded in Wahoo needs to be manually added into Garmin.
Thanks as always Ray.
Just to be clear - the Edge 1040 isn't discontinued at all. :) Garmin says they'll keep adding new features to it, and keep it as part of the lineup.
@@Dcrainmakerhe wrote “discounted” not discontinued.
@@Dcrainmaker I saw that many online offers are $100 off normal price
@@jimpeyton1459 Yeah, all part of the normal Fathers Day sales that happen each year, and of course a bit tied to increasing sales before the Edge 1050. But otherwise, business as normal. Garmin says the Edge 1040 will remain a key part of their lineup for longer-battery life needs.
Garmin share, will that work sending to older devices like the 1030p for example? I really hope so as i always found that useful at times with my friends
Sadly not
@@Dcrainmaker shame...
so long as there is no prompt to join a group ride when it detects similar routes and being on the same location the group ride function will not be widely adopted.
Ray -- any idea why SEA units do not qualify for Beta program? These updates come very late to us and that's a shame.
As many times as I've asked, I've never gotten a good explanation as to why the APAC units always lag...so...so...so...far behind.
@@Dcrainmaker thank you Ray for taking the time to reply. Yeah, it's absolutely frustrating.
Thanks for this Ray!
Ordered a 1050 yesterday, but now I'm having second thoughts lol.
I've been using my watch up until now, so anything would be an upgrade, just wondering if a 1040 would have been the better buy.
The way I see it - for the 1050 you pay around 250 to 300 euro more for a better screen, while the 1040 already has a screen which is more than good enough. I think the price difference with the 1040 is way too big.
Eventually they'll stop updates for 40s like 30s so keep the 50 lol
@@xfg007 When that happens the 1070 will have been released.. the price gap is just too big for a reason like this imho.
As someone with the 1040 solar it's not worth it for me. Sure the crisper screen is nice but with such a large display already I can clearly see 5-6 fields at any time. Again the speaker is nice, but a beep which tells me to glance at the screen is preferable to a voice giving me directions.
I'll take the extra 10h of batter life, the current mount placement and the solar charging over any of the new features.
I just bought a 1040 from Garmin direct on sale for $500. Still not sure if the extra $200 is worth it. Just got the box delivered from Garmin and I haven’t even opened it yet. What are your opinions?
I just bought a 1040 from Garmin direct on sale for $500. Still not sure if the extra $200 is worth it. Just got the box delivered from Garmin and I haven’t even opened it yet. What are your opinions?
I got it too, I’m enjoying it so far for the big screen bc I use navigation a lot. The screen is very readable auto brightness does lag if you go under a bridge, but I don’t think it justifies upgrading to the 1050. I haven’t had to charge the device since I got it after doing 10-40 mile rides.
@@gritynity I just bought the FSA K-Wing AGX handlebars with the difference. I race gravel on the SE US.
Is it finally possible to sync your garmin with your phone for new routes while being in a workout?
It had been for two years with the edge x40 series.
@@Dcrainmaker so when in a ride i can create a new one on my phone and just load it into the garmin without exiting the training? it was bothering me so much with my 1030 that i switched to wahoo
@@backtodrivei can transfer a new route to my edge 530 with GRouteLoader widget from my ridewithgps account during an activity.
@@backtodrive There's a GPX/FIT Exporter, than can be used with 1030 etc. to do this. Works pretty good.
Will I finally get rid of virtual partner in map view?
Whoever passes Rainmaker's house now and is using new software will be getting lots of hazard and dangerous animals alerts 🤣
So many!!!!
😂😂😂😂
How can one install/use e.g. OSM maps on the 1040 / 1050 as it has no sd slot.
It has 64GB of storage, and a USB-C port. No need for SD cards anymore. Plus, all the maps are included free anyway.
@@Dcrainmaker Tkx !
I’m waiting for the 1060 with microphone and cellular😊
and satellite
It first I misread your comment as "1060 with microwave", and I was like - I'm all here for Hot Pockets!
I doubt they will make one with LTE soon until the batter live will be improved a lot. Hammerhead Karoo 3 does not have SIM card slot anymore, it chews through battery and that's the main reason. Other is that not many Karoo 2 users were using this feature.
Does anyone know if you can share routes with an older device like an edge 530?
Sadly not.
Might just wait for the 1060 in 2 months time.
Not everyone rides with a Garmin unit etc., so I'm not certain the group ride features will be well utiised. I wish the Garmin had the same capability of phone function as in an Apple watch, but inclusive of Ride share capability
I've never used it. And yes, there are other brands out on the market. Half of people I know use Wahoo, the others Garmin, fewer use Bryton or other brands. But I noticed that Wahoo has a better capability of showing cyclists on a map, as it shows all that have enabled their visibility on a map, and not like in Garmin where you have to choose riders/friends from your connection list. In Wahoo you do not have to have any of them in your connection list of any sort. For many there may be too much hassle and bothering in adding/finding people in Garmin Connect, and also some may not use GC as such.
Does anyone know if the Edge 1030 plus will also get the new features, with the next FW release?
Nah, we are doomed.
No plans there.
@@Dcrainmaker as you have mentioned in on of your articles. It really is stupid to buy a flagship product and not have better feature than a never mid range model. 😏
@@zmlinaric But the Edge 1030 was released 7 years ago. It's now three generations of flagship products back: Edge 1030, then Edge 1030 Plus, then Edge 1040, and now Edge 1050. The Edge 540/840 both came out just over a year ago.
@@Dcrainmaker i understand the concept, but look at the iPhone. They update the features way back, and don’t tell me that 1030 can’t have a mountain prediction as the 1040 has, when you don’t have a planned route?? Or the fatigue level and features like it! It’s purely about money not about the features.
When will the final version be available
Likely a month or so, typically. Probably mid-August.
When is the 850 550 coming out?
When’s the 850 out??
I've always wondered why computers don't have a virtual bell. Is the "bell" loud enough for others hear it?
your review isnt linked in the corner :)
I installed beta on garmin 840, the garmin speed 2 is keep on saying "speed sensor connected" every 5 seconds.
Is this a bug.
Any solution except just removing the sensor till bug gets fixed?
I'd say it sounds like a bug. I'd suggest reporting it in the beta forums. And yeah, for now I'd just disable or remove the sensor pairing. Or, even try re-adding it.
Is 840 unit's CPU still robust with all new features? Or is it getting bloated for its hardware? Will 840 be EOU soon?
Auto brightness has never worked for me when riding in the dark. Does anyone else have this problem ? It’ll dim to a point where I can’t read the data anymore.
They stuck the landing, with one set of landing gear not fully deployed. It is still beta after all 😉
As long as it's the front gear, totally optional. It's when either of the two back sets that don't go down where things get messy...
@@Dcrainmaker 🤣😂
No love for the 130 plus
Will 1040 get Bell function?😊
Wow. They just keeping leaving my 1030 plus in the dark ages. 😢
4:11You must _really_ dislike him. *DANG!*
It looks like Garmin is coming after Strava
No update available for greece
Ensure you added the device to the beta first!
I didnt understand if edge 840 could have the "ring bell" mode with this firmware
Also if you could see on the map the "paved or unpaved" what coulde be great for gravel or just alerts
Thanks a lot
No bike bell unfortunately for Edge 840, as it lacks the hardware.
thank you! do you now about explore 2 update?
It gets the Road Hazard feature, the Groupride Incident Detection, and the Road Surface type updates. I haven't seen the public beta hit quite yet, perhaps later today.
If someone starts a Garmin group ride can I join if I have a Garmin edge 530?
Give us the 1050 Solar
Could you ask Garmin if strava live segments will finallly work on edge units please? 😅
They work, just not super awesomely. Note if you have a Strava Route, they'll always show up.
@@Dcrainmaker nah it is very bugged and garmin support just tells me that they do not support it. I would really like to get my money back, because my 830 has so many issues.
Yes, most routing in my area is accomplished by Ride with GPS, in which case live segments do not work.
@@mikem4814 did you try to push it to strava=
@@deDANIEL11609 Push it: I think you mean convert RWGPS file to Strava route? How is this done?
I loved my 705 Edge. I traded it on on a 1040 thru Garmin. What a waste. Calories measure at 40% accuracy. When adding manually the calories are correct. WTF!!
The vertical mapping is always off by up to a quarter mile.
On vertical. I live in the Midwest and we may have 80 feet of total relief in my county. Also ride in Florida a lot where there is zero relief. The 705 allowed gradation of 25 feet. The 1040 is only 100 feet or a flat asses line where I live. The 705 allowed both horizontal and vertical independent adjustment on the vertical screen not the 1040. I wish I could get my 705 back. This is the last Garmin I'll ever buy, Sadly!!!
I think you just signed many more people onto their Beta program 😂
They're welcome. 😂
Does it will work in the 1030?
No plans there unfortunately.
Test Magene c606 computer)
Would work out better to bleep when there isn’t a pothole in the UK 🇬🇧 🤦🏻♂️
Edge 830 owner….. 😢
Maybe it will come there too?
Try being an 820 user that got barely any updates
Sadly no plans for x30 devices.
@@Dcrainmaker so i would need to buy the 840 now, I guess.
@@Dcrainmaker to be fare to Garmin, they do a terrific job with updates for old products
Garmin needs to learn how to sync our data with 2 devices. I have a 1040 Solar nad Fenix 7x pro. I bought 1040 just to not have to wear my watch during a ride (I dont want it to bounce on my wrist) and my data almost never syncs from 1040 solar. Intensity minutes, calories almost never gets pulled but the ride itself does so yeah... Garmin Connect has so many bugs and I wonder how is this possible. We pay premium but get promises that never really work in real life.
Hmm, all that works for me (and my wife), every ride. Have you set your Primary Wearable *AND* Primary training device to be the Fenix 7X Pro?
I have to wonder how many of these features are purposely hardware gated by Garmin. Wahoo has less problems bringing features to older models.