Grateful Dead - Dark Star (Winterland 10/18/74)
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- "Although played more than 50 times in 1972-1973 combined, Dark Star became a rarity in 1974, played only six times before being shelved until 12/31/78. At the Farewell Shows in October 1974, the Dead played this magnificent, introspective, powerful rendition of their ultimate improvisational vehicle. We were thrilled to locate the 16mm film negative when we were producing the Grateful Dead Movie DVD." - David Lemieux
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"Although played more than 50 times in 1972-1973 combined, Dark Star became a rarity in 1974, played only six times before being shelved until 12/31/78. At the Farewell Shows in October 1974, the Dead played this magnificent, introspective, powerful rendition of their ultimate improvisational vehicle. We were thrilled to locate the 16mm film negative when we were producing the Grateful Dead Movie DVD." - David Lemieux
Score!
Hello admin Grateful Dead! Why not upload the full Winterland concerts ?? !! It would be incredible, do not save them !!
new deadhead here: once i got to 77, i hardly even remembered darkstar was a thing. it was my favorite song up until terrapin station damn, but damn, now thst you mention it, darkstar definately did drop off. im basically at Buffulo 77 in my chronological listen and it's been a treat so far in 77
My absolute favorite version is, oddly enough, from this same series of shows, but the super long version from the night before, 10/17/74, on The Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack. The one that's preceded by a long jam, and very slowly morphs into Dark Star, and the audience goes wild when they recognize it, and then starts clapping in rhythm very audibly. I'm trying to dig up the CDs, but is that version available anywhere digitally right now?
Thank you David for all that you do. The Dead live on.
I am 72 years old and from 1970 until 1976 I had the pleasure of working security the left front of the stage at the Capital Theater in Port Chester, NY. The Dead played there often and I was right in front of Jerry ever show they played there. Best band ever!!!
That’s amazing!!!!!🤘🍻
As a newbie I used to think a 16 minute song was ridiculous. I cannot express how much this music just hits a missing spot for me. Thank God for it! Be Kind people! Peace.
Amazing how it can go from being too long 2 being far too short haha
Each performance they do of their songs is a work of art. When you see a really nice, well done painting, you don't think about how long it took the artist to paint it. Its the final product that matters.
This music takes you into timelessness. Ahhh. Halfway through and you can't remember what year it is 😍
Just like agood fucken drug ,the longer it last the better.
Welcome aboard the bus
A 100 years from now the Dead will still be revered like Mozart is today. They are timeless.
I’m a fan but that’s ridiculous
They totally will, music like this isn't just forgotten
@@gagegullison4630 Time will tell Gage.
@@gagegullison4630 time will tell, you are no merely a passenger on this ride able to see the machinations of the machine and are able to judge it. You are not the arbiter of taste my man. Peace!
@@gagegullison4630 it is not ridiculous at all, you are
Good way to start a day.
Breakfast for the soul
Great way to end it too
Just amazing how much the music really breathed in 1974 such great separation and crystal clear tones.
This the winterland, where the dead sound grew acoustically, and therefore technical engineering within sound making items , I.e. loudspeakers...o.k. stop now
Wall of sound
i think 99% of that is the fact there's no Mickey
@@thejamnasium6447 Yep, the single kit def helps with spaciousness. Recordings from this era help to prove Billy K is a far more creative rock/jazz drummer than Mickey. That said, Mickey was a great addition for the big power "rolling thunder" sound that they eventually settled into.
@@quartzimagingMickey taught Billy a lot of stuff tho and was responsible for them messing with a lot of different stuff rhythmically. I think he doesn’t get enough credit for that.
somebody read the room right - America needed THIS today
Daily!
@@MrStuVW yesssir from southern me
And today and any other day
We all know Phil and Jerry were amazing but the stuff Bobby was playing during this era is mind bending. He was such a huge part of why they were so good at the time. He and Keith were the rhythm section. Just stupidly amazing.
I couldn’t agree more. Well said...
Bob is greatly underrated. Sometimes during Playin, Dark Star, Bird Song, China Rider jams as jerry melts my face I realize its Bobby framing the context in some subtly harsh/gentle insane genius way
Phil sucks. Bobby is a fantastic rhythm player.
@@jamesball5743 Sucks? How so?
@@jamesball5743 da fuck? lol Phil is insanely good
Bill’s always been the drummer
if there ever was or there ever will be a song that exists in time and space I’m glad this song existed in my time
I had no idea they played Dark Star at this show! Winterland 74....keeps getting better !
So that's why people listen to Greatful dead on acid.
:)
How do you know the band was on acid! :)
LSD for all people
I am very "Greatful" for the opportunity to lol @ this post lol
Or do they listen to us man? Hmm? Mind Blown right? 😊😊😊
I've had several profound experiences listening to Dark Star , some of the highlights of my life, its a transformative experience if you go where the flow takes you .
It seems none of us have to make a case for the merits of this era.
No disrespect to any of the other lineups but the one drummer and Keith on keys era is my personal favorite . ✌🇨🇦
@@danielmorris3687 without a doubt. The brief single drummer + 2 on 🎹🎹 are true gems for me. Of course I have new favorites every day. Over the decades I've probably named nearly every song a favorite(no, not Samba) depending upon how I'm feeling. Older I get the more I prefer JGB & Reconstruction, New Riders..., Old & in the Way, etc. But in no way am tired of the GOGD!
When it was first released on LP, we used to listen to Dark Star from Live Dead in the afternoon. I still love to do that. Thanks.
Magic.
This has been one of my favorite versions of "Dark Star" since I first heard it on tape back in 1983. Many years later, I was ecstatic when I purchased the Grateful Dead Movie on DVD-- and they had included this as a bonus feature. I will confess that I have always hoped that someone would go back and create a solid chunk of video that included more of the great jam before they began singing and then include the equally amazing "Morning Dew" that follows. Here's hoping that might someday happen ...
It's included in the 5 CD set, but video would be really cool !
I can't get back what was, but I can remember.✌️. We're American strong! God bless the captain and crew.
I forgot what a glorious version this Dark Star was. The last vintage performance of this.
gorgeous
Best dead era
If you did not catch them in '68, you missed them.
Bill is such a musical drummer...
"Dark ✴ Star crashes..... pouring its light into ashes... Reason tatters... the forces tear loose from the axis.... Search light casting.... for faults in the clouds of delusion"
"pouring ITS light into ashes"
@@Incornsyucopia thanks man... i fixed it!
Sounds bloody good
"Shall we than, you and i while we can"
This might be the greatest Dead video I've ever seen. The video quality, audio quality, the KILLER performance, the fact that 74 is arguably the greatest year for the band...if I ever have somebody say "I just don't understand the Dead" I will show them this one, on the big screen tv, with the lights out. (Unless they seem like the kind of person who couldn't handle Dark Star)
But holy shit, this Dark Star is just phenomenal
And the lighting crew, so well done they beam us up to the Mars Hotel !!
Dark Star was the masterpiece...and the one that most non-Heads don't "get" 👍
I beg to differ. 1969 for me was the greatest Dead 💀 year and the Live/Dead Dark star the all time champion. But this is pretty damn amazing
Hi
Well, how can i put it...i STILL dont get it...I guess it's only a mater of taste but their music never did nothing for me: i find it erratic and quite self indulgent. Sorry but too me it sounds like endless jamming, with very little energy and focus.
They had great visuals though
showing dark star to a newbie is like grateful sewer slide. There are only a handful of songs that appeal to most people like scarlet fire, st stephen, and terrapin. Does anyone know some other good ones to show first time listeners?
Bill's drumming on this is magnificent.
Billy was always on point
Heard this somewhere before and I 100% believe in it. Dark Star is weaved into the fabric of the universe and it is always playing somewhere. The Dead just channeled it. They step in and out of it when they please.
That’s so beautiful dude, literally made me cry
That's all music but yes
Maybe the reverse side of Mars Hotel is what they REALLY look like !!
Jerry, Phil and Bobby have all said this.
Bobby @ 11:43 really pushing rhythm to send dark star further into space.
Really love that rhythm change! Just like Veneta ‘72’s dark star....
sometimes the visuals really make what Bobby did stand out - he was so good at finding his spaces that you dont even realize how much he contributes
@@steveg6035 very true... when I listen to soundboard recordings I hardly hear him in the mix. The visual made me notice his contribution .
Beautiful....
I’ve been needing this to accompany the Dew video... legendary
That Dew makes me tear up every time
The greatest American Rock N Roll Band EVER
Yes, along with The Doors
100 fucking percent. Jerry is the goat. Nobody will ever come close to what they did.
Finally!! Some 74 stuff!
Phil says this was the peak
My Boys at home, playing just for my tribe it was a for us my brothers and sisters this was as good as it got.
My heart still cries after one month this video has been dropped on CZcams. I'm not american, but this band belongs to the people from all over the world.
To all people my friend,and if Allens are out there ?They will be getn there boogie on to the dead.One big family,let the good times roll
@@gratefuldrifter6588
Since I was listening Live/Dead for the first time (maybe twenty years ago) this one became my favourite band ever, everytime I hear Dark Star it reminds me how beautiful a collective can be, this band still live after the dead of so many components.
Thanks for your comment.
@@larrycipo5034 i here you brother,we all will find the dead!We all can relate to this bands messages,or is there won?Its more then music its in our heart and in the soul
....nice thought:)
The sound on this is excellent.
Darkstar will always remind of the little kid from tie dye lot scene. They ask everybody what's there favorite song. He says Darkstsar in a kid voice lol
This is extraordinary!......The camera angles, the editing, the lighting,....mind blowing dynamics....I think this is the best video of Bill's drumming that I have seen....without Mickey beating the s... out of stuff right next to him, Bill has a more open zone, and is able to use dynamics more than with a second drummer....Thank You!
One of my all time favorites.
If there were any live performance I could go back and be present for, this Winterland run would be the one ❤
I was at a Dead & Company show in Buffalo NY in 2015 when the group performed Dark Star. I heard the opening rift and shouted out “Dark Star”. I was exchanging high fives with
Dead Heads around me. John Meyer was magnificent playing playing lead guitar.
Awwwwwa i could just get lost in this song- with a LITTLE drink in my hand, miss u Jerry!💔🌷
Jesus when Keith and jerry connect its.... no words
my favorite keys player though no bad ones
Thank you, enjoyed very much.
Whos listening to the dead for the total eclipse... 15mins left
Next time
Shall we go..... you and I while we can? 💀🌹⚡️☮️❤️
One of the greatest dead jams of all time
This is a really nice jam on the tune "Dark Star." Fresh, exploratory, and organic. All the ingredients of the "good stuff."
This is such a psychedelic wading pool, such a scattered array of emotion
There is Nothing like.... ❤️⚡️
Listening on 10 18 2023. Typed in greatest live grateful dead show. Gave a huge couole scrolls down. And it stopped on this gem. 💎 on the same date as today and all. So heady. 🎉the spirit of Jerry is always among me. I'm so blessed by Jesus and grateful for Jerry lookin out for me as well. ❤I hope you all feel happy and healthy. Reach out to your people.❤
Bill so good he knows just exactly what is needed
This was the one show I saw of the "final run" in 1974. It was a magical evening.
Thank God that the dead allowed cameras unlike bands like the stones and Zeppelin we're so blessed to have the Grateful Dead
Not to mention tapers!
We are so blessed with the archive they left to us. It’s truly amazing. Super thankful for the ability to watch so much GD! ❤️🔥⚡️💀🌹
This is prime GD! How I love this… they changed my life. Greatest band ever. 🔥⚡️💀🌹✌️❤️
Keith G, best man on the keys 🎹
Although here, Ned Lagin's Fender Rhodes is often more audible than Godchaux's acoustic piano.
Keith played the fender rhodes as well. Audible at numerous 74 shows and one from the vault. Check any of the versions of Playing in the band from the second half of 74
@@garrettwelch9489 He did on occasion (13-8-1975 being a certain example), but mostly he played acoustic piano in '74. Many, if not all, of those versons of PITB from the second half of '74 that feature aggressive Fender Rhodes playing is Lagin playing. He was, after all, on tour with the GD from June 23 through the final Winterland shows. This is not mere speculation; I've hung out with Lagin a number of times and talked to him extensively about this period.
@@Incornsyucopia Oh wow that's interesting, I didn't know that. Are you sure it was always him though? If you look at the video of the 10/18/74 Weather Report on youtube it appears that Keith is playing the Fender Rhodes. If all of those cases were indeed Ned he's a hell of a player, some of the rhodes playing on the Alexandra Palace shows from Dicks Picks 7 (particularly the Playin and Dark Star) is very far out. I also don't tend to hear Keith's piano when the Rhodes is going so I always assumed it was Keith.
@@Incornsyucopia You wouldn't hear Ned on the soundboard sources, right? Because they didn't give him a distinct channel in the Wall. But this Winterland run (excepting the opening Wed. night), and Alexandria were recorded by Bear's audience mics, and thus captured the output, not the input. At least that's what I've pieced together from some different readings.
Knowing what you know now about 1974 imagine all of the thoughts of the people in the crowd. Imagine the morning after in an apartment with no interwebs and only a rotary phone and a green refrigerator. Pull tab beers, Chesterfield kings, Sanka.
Really enjoyed watching the close-up of Bobby playing that free-floating rhytmn part.
amazing
I was just curious bc a twitter comment and came here to check on them and this sounds actually great. The guitar player is outstanding.
New fans are born every day. I am glad to see you here.
BOTH guitar players are outstanding (unless you want to count the bass as a guitar, whereupon you've got three).
This was Bob’s best guitar tone in my opinion.
Perfect for my roll
Great drumming Billy!
fascinating to see all the guitar and bass techniques they used to get the textures
Whenever I see 74 Jerry I'm surprised how young and slim he still looks. Hes still so young looking where as just a few years later he looked much older. I've heard Phil say he thought the best Dead was pre 74 hiatus, and how when they came back something was different, jerry had lost some of his fire and it wasn't the same.
Phil
Never said Jerry lost some
Of his fire. He never said that. This was a complicated time. He didn’t take interviews. He didn’t want to mould it. He was aware what the Grateful Dead really is and what he did was very smart and very deeply reverent
Check back in when you turn 35.
Some fire gone smh.
He was just stepping out to consider if he wanted the responsibility of moulding it to continue. It’s / big deal.
If someone informed you that you were playing with something that is All and in continuing to do so you’d have to take some
Leadership and shape it.. wouldn’t you think about it? That was incredibly wise to step back and really find out what’s the right thing to do.
Some
Fire gone out. Give me a break man. There was so much to come. Wise people, especially those with tremendous responsibility really take power very seriously and are careful with it.
This isn’t a human topic. This is God topic
It’s not fire gone out. It’s recognizing what fire is. And think about it- he maybe realized he’d give his life in this incredible venture. Maybe he stepped back to figure out if that was the thing to do or not. It’s not like he ever did anything half assed. And to that point, nobody you’ll ever know I even hear of will pack as much life in such a short space of time as he did. He had a million things going on at all times and honestly lived a life that 100 people
Combined couldn’t equal in terms of output. So think about it differently maybe. It was always supposed to be fun. Maybe it came back with a little more
Serious edge is all.
And we should be grateful he came
Back to
Okay.
But if he had not and had gone to
Do art or teach scuba diving or produce movies or whatever else he did-- the Grateful Dead would have been more than enough to
Enlighten humanity if it ended at Winterland.
Peace and love to you. I’m not coming down on you. Just think about it more
You do realize that he was a phenomenal visual
Artist right? He could do that. He was an astonishing artist. He was also a producer of film. Highly educated and super gifted and talented mentally and really concerned about social and environmental causes giving lots of time and money to that, also a scuba instructor. He could have done a hundred things with his life and been just as good at them as playing guitar in the Dead. He could have just had his own band. A million things. I don’t know what he was thinking. I was busy being born but I’m sure grateful that he did all
Of what he did and am glad this band came back together for all our benefit. Okay- am done
Ps now go watch 77 videos. He looked exactly the same. He played better. It was just an end of an era. There were lots of eras in there. No big! Byeee
This music born ti the light
I think we would all love to see the full show! 💀
This one is a killer Dark Star, but my favorite is Dark Star 8/27/1972
Amen
I completely disagree with those that disagree with this!
Springfield Creamery 🙂
San Francisco 1969 followed by saint Stephen 😍
Which show, place please, Berkeley?
Beautiful
I live for this series
Nice drums from Bill
NICE.
que fino este tema
Of course memory is fuzzy, but i remember my first shows in March 77 Winterland, Big sign said something like 1978 days since last Dark Star. They were Great shows to me.
I want come back to the seventie's, please....
Love from Switzerland
This is a nice, relaxed version. One of the great things about DS is that it can be interpreted as being in more than one related key or mode for much of it. Guess Mickey wasn't around for these shows (?)
He was out of the band from 1971-74, funny thing is he rejoined them at this same tour on this day or few days later. Bob Weir even joked " Back from the institution and a brand new man" Haha!!
@@michaelmohrle1773 wasn't Hart on Europe 72?
Spent 3.5 years following Phil Leah and phish alota my friends died on tour we did it for the love of the music . I fell in love with the trance and music Forever dead ☠️ so many roads
Meatball mafia
Nice!
Thanksss...!!!
Intro is loose the guitar and fender piano spot on
I am the biggest FAN OF GRATEFUL DEAD CELLS
Wow, what a band, love the Dead just knockout!!
Thanks so much for posting this!!
Спасибо им что были, и есть.
IT!! ........ perhaps the most BELOVED tune in Dead History
Stoked!!
All dead tunes are cool to get loaded on.
Holy Hippie Jesus.. This is good! 🔥
Best music to wipe out any covid blues
Keith... Awesome
After recording 800 hours of Live Gd if one is feeling down- just listen to Dark Star
I last saw the Dead during Memorial Day weekend in Portland 1995. They didn't play Dark Star but the Dark Star community was there in full force. Multiple, generations spread out,,picnis, many different scenes all tied together by a band of misfits that grew into a transformative enterprise. Graham was right about the Dead.
i really thought we were getting US Blues....thank goodness we didn't....great pick Dave....
Quintessential dead here.
October Stars! 😊😊😊
I was there I had the tie dye shirt on and I was noodling
Something about the slow-down in playing starting at around the 7:40 mark, Garcia silhouetted playing that solo at around 8:22…I know the band was already huge and was to have so many great, great moments later on, particularly in the late ‘70’s and again in the late 80’s…but this - almost eerily and sadly - seems like a nod to the psychedelic era… the end of the beginning.
They make every band in history second class here...
5:00 wow to see this. Thank you
Peace out to all the heads!!!
I never realized how great a drummer Bill was. He's up there with John Bonham.
The only thing that comes close to matching the music is the stories that go with it.