My grandfather had a simple strategy. Nobody hunted on his 160 acres in the hills the first couple weekends of deer season. He had two ponds. One in front of the cabin at about 30 yards, and one about 100 yards behind the cabin past the outhouse. Then he would either sit on the porch of his cabin and get a buck. However, several times he spotted bucks from the outhouse. So eventually he got a buck from the outhouse with his pants around his ankles. If that outhouse didn't scare them off..... one tinkle in the woods isn't going to drive them away.
Ha, too funny. They sure seem to know when the season begins...when hunters carelessly hit the woods, start baging and clanging treestand setups, leaving their scent around and pulling the spotlights out for pre season shining. They don't even need to learn how to read 😁 Hunters educate them...
Hahahaha, They have their yearly meeting prior to the season. Lmao. To send out the Does first then all small bucks next, to make sure Big Daddy’s Safe.. Hahahaha
I am 11 years old and a girl but I’ve never had interest in hunting till this year. I went hunting with my dad once and didn’t see much. I went the next day and shot my first deer it was a big eight point buck. The very next time I went hunting this year I shot another eight point buck. My dad now won’t let me shoot more eight pointers. I’ve only been hunting 3 times one year and shot 2 eight point bucks. Just wanted to share
Callee Gerber; Tell your dad to get your first antlers on the wall ASAP, as soon as that cap dries! You will never forget it! And congratulations, I hope my one year old daughter grows up to be just like you!
Callee Gerber; Good choice! The reason I am saying is my first deer was an 11pt with a funny shaped left main beam. It floated around the shed and garage for years before it was certainly taken by some yard guys my mother hired. All I have of my first deer is a single photo. It will be hard to loose or damage if its hanging.
I've had a decent 8 pointer walk to me while I was peeing out of my tree stand. It was looking for the source of the sound. I almost had to shoot it with my junk blowing in the wind.
I’m so glad you made this video. So many times I’ve told people these exact things and they think they know better. Experience in the woods easily debunks these myths
20 years ago on a warm day right at the beginning of the season my dad and I were jigging for bream in a creek. We weren’t camouflaged as I was wearing a white shirt and we weren’t concerned about noise. We choose a spot and started catching fish after fish. We were at that spot for 15 to 20 minutes and my dad had just lit a cigarette when the largest deer I’ve seen started making a ton of noise in the thicket just across the creek. With a 12ga that I now own today my dad drew a bead on the 10pt and he is now proudly mounted in my dads shop. Deer hunting is preparation and luck. That day was just pure luck and my favorite memory.
I have to interject something: Those who claim to be animal lovers and hate hunting don't have a clue. The truth is, hunters love animals 100 times more than those armchair judges. In all the times I've been out in the off season picking up trash in the woods, or planting trees/edible plants, placing salt licks, not once have I run across one of these haters doing the same thing. However, I have run into many hunters doing it. Hunter haters think if the animals weren't hunted, it would be just like a Disney movie. The fact is, left unchecked, they'd eat themselves into starvation. An acre or sq mile of land can only support so much wildlife. If it is overpopulated, the animals strip every bit of food, develop disease and in many cases end up wandering into populated areas because they are so hungry. Furthermore, starvation is a slow painful process. So, what's better: A single kill shot and population management, or slowly dying from lack of food? Finally, if you're so gung ho, by all means have a bulldozer come and level your house to create more habitat. Hunters are the biggest conservationists around. They care about wildlife more than you ever could because in your ideal world, animals suffer. And stop feeding wild animals. It can only be detrimental to them in the long run as well as dangerous. Great video!
Scott McMan harvesting your own meat is literally the most ethical way to get meat. Ever. Most people like to say that hunting is “for trophies” without realizing we eat and use every. Single. Piece. Of the deer. Oh, and they’ll talk shit on hunters while they eat their steak from the grocery store!!
Scott McMan Not only that truth but the Department of fish and Game that watch habitats animal counts and even diseases. They make the rules of what, where, when and what you can take to keep them all doing well. They create habitat when needed too. Is it anti hunters or PETA and the like that fund them doing this ? No it is hunters licenses, tags, stamps etc... An animal killed to be eaten by a hunter has a much better life that one raised in a fenced area or cage. Harder to obtain wild game makes more respect for what we eat too so F you hunter haters. PETA has filed cases where deer were given ti Indian tribes. The deer taken were put in storage until the case was dismissed. Problem was the storage was not cold and the meat was bad and tossed.
@@brianbirc - Couldn't have said it better myself. By the way, I love the shows about fish and game officers. North Woods Law and Lone Star Law. Those who hate Game Wardens should watch those shows. They would see just how lenient these officers are and how they prefer to give people a break as long as they are honest and up front. I can't stand poachers or those who break game laws in general. They aren't Sportsmen. They are just killers and profiteers. And, while there can be some confusing language on documents, most of it is clear as crystal. So, ignorance of the law is seldom a good excuse.
People say you can't shoot deer while drinking coffee, last year I shot 2 deer with my shotgun at 14 yards with my coffee steaming away right next to me.
Oh fuck I bring a gallon of coffee with me every day and I piss coffee smelling piss and I’ve never had a deer even notice. Sure you can tell when they smell it but it has never scared a deer off
Mr. Sturgis, I wish there were more dudes like you around. I feel like unless you have hunters in your family, its hard for someone to find an experienced hunter to take the time to lean into new comers to hunting. Thanks for leading the way, brother!
Jeff, Thanks for another great video! Your channel is under appreciated for its content. You have the most accurate information than any other channel without all the hype! Thanks again for all you do for us deer lovers.
That is great to hear Ron! I truly try to do so...heck, if it isn't helping folks than why bother. So I appreciate your feed back and I hope that you and yours have a Merry Christmas!
Jeff, I was chasing a 14 pt. 5 yr. old, Moses this yr,. and peed off my stand before dark. A few minutes later I looked down and Moses was sniffing and looking up at me, although I was hidden by pine branches. It was after shooting hours, so I just watched and after sniffing for a few minutes he walked off. I was drinking apple juice, so maybe Ted was correct. It was the best experience of my hunting season this year. Years ago we would get down and walk 50 plus yards. to pee so the scent would not be near the stand, not the greatest action making all that noice and movement in the woods. Grant Woods told me the same thing you stated, that it will totally dissipate in 20 minutes. Keep up the good work. thanks.....Bob Benson
Thanks a lot Bob and great to hear from you! That is a VERY cool experience. I would think that deer are very curious of urine scent...for sure...I bet Moses was wondering why that nice scent was in those pine bows 🙂 Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Amen Jiggin! All the gizmos and gadgets are a gimmick. You cannot fool a deers' nose. It's been proven that you cant time and again. The human body will always give off scent. Learn to use the wind. It is cheaper and more effective.
I have had deer walk right up to me from down wind. I don't think you can ever completely fool the deer's nose. My theory is that by using good scent control the deer don't realize I'm as close as I am. I used to hunt in an agricultural area. Deer smell people every day and also have activity around them . If they ran away every time they smelled people that's all they would do. We now hunt in a very narrow wooded valley. Deer here are much more sensitive to humans
john kendall same and I agree. With proper scent REDUCTION measures we can certainly reduce the human scent. The problem is though that a deer can smell one single human skin cell....
john kendall; Years ago on a clear cold morning I was hunting along the Frio in LaSalle county TX. I had worked the edge of a thicket heading upstream and saw a large crooked Mesquite whose trunk paralled the ground. I sat on the horizontal trunk facing upstream with my back to the rising sun. After about 1/2 an hour I panned to my right and nearly came face to face with a basket six point. His nose was to the ground and remarkably was coming up the exact path I had taken to the Mesquite. He walked within seven yards of me and remained oblivious of my presence. Why he did not pick up my sent on the ground? Who knows. But I remained down wind during the event, though not intentionally in this case. I never have used sent eliminators before or since, but conditons were in my favor that morning. I agree 100% deer get used to humans but these deer remained free of human interaction except for the deer season. Forgot to mention, I did let him go on his way.
I had an interesting hunt this year. I hunt in Northern Ontario. Monday was heavy wet snow, visibility was poor and in spite of lots of deer being in the area, I only caught a glimpse of a mature doe with no real shot potential. For the next 3 days it was minus 24 C, with a sharp arctic wind out of the North, and I did not see any deer for the first two days of the cold snap, I changed my strategy on the third cold day and hunted a really wet low area with thick ceders, that is where they were, saw two in the morning, but could not get a clear shot due to the thick brush, and in the afternoon I took a different position which was a little more open but was less favourable for wind. I spotted a doe that was quite a ways out (a little bit of a long shot for me, I wanted to wait), the wind changed and was blowing on my backside, and surprisingly, the doe picked up my scent and was curious, she started slowly my way. She got within 40 yards of me and I could see she was a small yearling, not worth taking to the butcher, so I took a picture of her and called that my shot. Friday, I had no luck in the morning, it was much warmer (above freezing) but still windy and I thought I would try still hunting as the wind might cover the sound I make as I take steps. But again, no luck. In the afternoon, heading back to camp, I spotted two does in an opening but I would have had to shoot in the direction of some cottages, which is not an acceptable shot. So I moved, belly crawled for about 150 yards to change my shot angle. I decided to close the distance a bit by approaching again on my belly, until I was about 80 yards out, I had a large Oak for cover, but to take the shot, I had to come out from behind the tree, I did a little peek and they made me and were gone out of sight in an instant. No deer this year, but I am ok with that, I am glad I let the little one go. No regrets!
Man that sounded like a great set of hunts! Northern Ontario too...very cool! I was Ontario 5 times last year... love it up there and will be back soon. I can really appreciate it the vastness of some of the area!
I don’t know if you read the comments but I’ve been micro managing our home property for like well a long time since I was like 12 yrs old for rabbits back then deer and all wild life! I’m now a subscriber and proud of it I wish I knew you or had this info 30 years ago and love your up front perspective WOW you educated me a lot just when I thought I knew a little I learned a lot and still watching videos from you all thumbs up! we just found your channel my daughter and I love doing habitat management and are learning more every day with your help thank You! I wish to someday meet you in person heck who knows maybe even hire you if I can alright enough just saying thanks. One video I found Awsome was the deer rant you had unbelievable your 100% right and thank you again I buy and plant lots of mixes with so so results no wander mostly fillers especially the sweet beet mixes thanks also just place order for switch grass at local feed store for year’s I’ve been looking for something fir a border that not as permanent as trees bingo done and yes I’ve planted lots of evergreens for borders worked just there kinda permanent. I’m from west/central I-80 corridor of Pennsylvania if you have a name brand of switch grass seed you prefer let us know ok thanks. C . Fox
The pee thing is true. More than 20 years ago, I had to pee like a Russian race horse while deer hunting, so I went up the ridge about 50 yards and had a good one. About 30 minutes later, a big doe came over the top of the ridge, went straight to the place that I peed, and stuck her nose right in it. Never flagged, never got excited. She walked past me, to my right, at about 30 yards. I had the scope on her, trying to grow horns on her. She spread out her front legs and dipped her head to give me a clear look. I think she was trying to say, "Look! I ain't got no horns!" It was bucks only then. She walked on down the ridge.
So many or stories, so little time, lol. Really appreciate the feedback! Crazy how convenient peeing in the woods can actually be...thanks for the feedback!
Excellent video. I've been hunting whitetails for close to 60 years. I have harvested at least 100 deer but probably more than that because it is my food source.
I've peed on the tree while watching bucks near my stand just to see their reaction. They never even blinked an eye. Also poured out tinks doe urine while bucks where in front of me. Also, no reaction. I once bought all the deer hunting crap Wal-Mart has to offer, yet, I'd go to my stand and after a few hours, I saw nothing. But, when I got back to the truck, lit up a cigarette, turned up the radio a little, then, here come the deer, while motley crue is blasting the radio lol.
@vettelover2009 Myself included !! Also have a 900 yard shooting range on my own property ! Much of the area is covered in trees ! When I started shooting back 5 yrs ago it made my neighbors furious !!!! They reported me to the DNR saying I was shooting deer ! Many times when I was out shooting.... high power .... I seen deer . I also seen the DNR vehicles parked watching me. ( they could see my targets clearly ). Their aim was to catch me ! One day I was out shooting and a few deer crossed my target area. Just so happened the DNR was watching that too. Since I had my ear plugs in...I never heard them come up behind me. They tried to charge with shooting deer ! Be careful with your neighbors .... often they have the same idea..... scaring the deer away because of shooting. They get use to it ! Since then..... Ive never had a run in with the DNR again.
@@hairymanonetwo "They tried to charge with shooting deer ! " I assume you beat the charges. Did you show them a target and say "Look, I hit what I shoot at"?
@@5000rgb They never charged me with anything..just tried to blame me.suggesting I was shooting deer. They could see the target very clearly.... the same DNR guys had been there several times. Just the neighbors kept turning me in.....hoping Id quit shooting and scaring off the deer. To this day they still turn me in. Thats 5 yrs after I started shooting.
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I am 54 I grew up with those old wives tales of so much bad info lol ! Scent control is by far the best info and you need to have a plan! But I wonder why pee doesn’t send out alarm alert but you sweat and get a lil bo in the wind and deer freak out ! But I know that my deer on my land don’t freak out to my scent I’m out there cutting firewood fishing planting food plots staying in trappers cabin swimming in pond ride 4 wheelers shoot guns ! I just wear my normal stuff to hunt on my property. Swear I could use diesel fuel as a cover scent lol bar oil mixed fuel all would work lol.
@@stevedingman474 great points Steve...I think they truly can become conditioned for better or worse. The hardest deer is the mature buck. He just doesn't seem to be around enough to become conditioned a lot of the time... I call does, fawns and young bucks the great deceivers! They can lull a hunter into thinking deer in general can get used to people in some way...when a mature hucks rarely does. Thanks for the comments Steve and have a happy new year!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I agree but a old wise doe can be equally difficult not so much in hunting her but her being alert to your presence and warning other deer your in area ! They can be wicked smart!
@@stevedingman474 oh they sure can Steve, great point! I find they are a lot easier to pattern and hunt...but when it comes time to make the shot you better be very quiet and not move much! Going out with my 13 year old son Sam tonight for any deer with the crossbow...hoping he can shoot a doe but in all honesty a young buck may be an easier target to shoot for him!
Great information, been hunting Eastern Whitetail for years and there is always something to learn. Great video of those beautiful critters..are they not wonderful. Sometimes I just watch them in the woods for enjoyment
Great video filled with great info and easy to follow! I am new to whitetail hunting I grew up with blacktail in WA, but could you do a video about late season strategies for whitetail or strategies for different parts of the season?
It's actually the other way around...but even then it's never defined, at all. Bucks travel several times more than does, so their toe is often worn down a lot more. Even then tho, it depends on the terrain, soil, rocks, etc. Those bucks tracks do generally get larger tho than does tho.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751: In my neck of the woods where I hunt (here in Kentucky - Urban/Surburban, Public/WMA - Bluegrass Region), it's as I described. We grow some BIG Bucks, but the Does (minus a few) are typical large dog size and weight.
Man so true! I believe they are the most definable deer in the woods...so dang consistent. Hey and btw, that shows you are doing a great job with your hunting style and habitat. Random habitat and highly pressured lands have very little definable and consistent doe movement. Merry Christmas!
You bring up some very good points that people should listen to, and forget the books and magazines, except the scent issue. I have hunted deer for 38 consecutive years. I pee in scraps, I pee out of my stand, I make scrapes and then pee in them. Deer could care less. Deer do not go to school and learn human ways. It's the other way around, we try to learn their ways. When you gotta go, go, and don't worry about scent. Many hunters will walk right past them when they are bedded and they never jump up. If trying to jump deer off bed, walk in and back a ways on the same path and see what jumps up then. I have learned this, SIGHT, SOUND, SMELL. If you block 2 out the 3, the deer don't know you're there. Wear solid colors when hunting deer. Black, brown, dark green, or even light green, but make sure the colors are solid. No camo. Camo has features that give you away when you move even slightly. When rattling, go up wind of a bedding area, not down wind or side ways. The wind will send the sound further down range and increase you chances of raising a bedding buck, or one that may be passing by that you can't see. I have rattled in bucks from over 200 yards away. Bucks will bed where they feel comfortable, and they never pay attention to wind direction. It is what it is. It doesn't take a big gun to bring down a big buck. .223 on up will do the trick. Deer tracks are distinguishable from does. Bucks leave flat track from toe to heel, side to side. Does leave an arched track from center to outside, toe to heel in the center, with the center higher than the outside. Bucks have fuller and bigger pads than does, and this is why the have flat tracks. Even young button bucks tracks can be distinguished from a doe even at an early age. Deer droppings are also a way to tell if a good sized buck is in the area (body wise). Does drop pellets, bucks drop bundles of pellets, or mush, even from birth. The bigger the dropping, the older the deer (and bigger), regardless of doe or buck. I don't use deer scent cover up, and could care less about it. I was sold on them in my early deer hunting days, but as time went on I figured out they don't work. I haven't used any cover up for well over 20 years now. If a deer is going to smell you, then it doesn't matter what you're wearing, or using, they will smell you. Who's to say the scent you use will not spook them? On the flip side, I keep my scent exposed so the deer will get used to smelling me in their area. This way, when I am gone they are not spooked. When I come back and should they smell me, they are not spooked because they have smelled me before. Don't use deer scent's or cover up's, be yourself and let the deer get used to you being around. Trail cameras have revealed they are not bothered one bit with human scent, mine or other's as well, because they walk around and right over peoples tracks and paths minutes after a person has been there and they just go about their business. Spend less time worrying about the deer smelling you or making you out, and more time hunting. Best way to hunt deer, is to find out where they are and go to them, rather than mixing scents, wind, and locations trying to bring them to you. Remember, you're hunting them, they're not hunting you. Place your stand according to their location, not yours.
I really appreciate the clear, thoughtful, common sense advice from having been there. No loud hype or over the top claims and "check out my merch" plugs. Thank you
Another great video and as always informative. I started using my own urine the last season to open/refreshen scrapes and it seems to work. I also quit worrying about peeing in the woods and I agree I haven’t seen any issues. On scent control, I do all your saying and this year I added an ozone generator for my clothes bag. That seems to work as well and I wash my clothes much less. Generally now only after a harvest since I am not very good keeping them clean during field dressing! I haven’t had any winding issues this year. Thanks again for your videos and Merry Christmas!
Thanks for the feedback Mark...yes, pee away! Lol It's crazy but I find the older I get the keys I worry about scent control and the more mature bucks I see and shoot per sit. It really boils down to stand location...and of course not leaving a scent trail in and out of the woods! Sounds like you are doing great and have a very sound approach. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I had a buck walk up to me while I was smoking a cigarette and drinking coffee, after shooting at him and walking around to see if I hit him I sat back down with a cigarette still in my mouth and a 2nd buck walked up behind me that one I got
I took a friend of mine hunting and he wagged a damned metal folding chair into the woods and smoked cigars and drank coffee while hunting with a red plaid shirt and jeans. I told him he wouldn't see anything. He was the only one that killed. He missed with the first shot and dropped it on the second. It changed my whole outlook on "The Scent Commandments" and deer hunting in general..
Everytime I've killed a deer I either have a cigarette lit, or have just put one out. Including the big 9 I shot a few days ago 15yrds from me...as he walked up downwind of me, lmao
I've been a hunter all of my life and I am 65 years old so since 10 years of age I have been in all kinds of habitat. To me, the two most important things about hunting are noise that you make and sudden movement. If you are quiet and you practise moving every part of your body in a slow motion when you do move that is the best practise that you can do to help you when you are still hunting. They don't call it 'still' hunting for any reason other than that.
Great comments! And that goes for any method of hunting, in particular stand hunting. No noise...move slowly...be owtient...and hunt with the wind in your favor. Basically...become a predator. I can fully appreciate what you said! Thanks for commenting
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 That is a great comment also. I just wanted to put the top two things to remember. But you are certainly right. If you do all of those things and you don't at least see deer then you are in the wrong place. Move the stand and find another trail.
@@TBullCajunbreadmaker great advice! I find so many hunters get stuck in a bad spot for years because they once killed a buck there. I always teach your best stand should be the NEXT stand you shoot a buck out of and not the LAST stand you shot a buck out of. A short memory is key...
I tried hard to teach a friend of mine that he needed to stop moving around in the stand, and his way of thinking was, if he couldn't see the deer, then the deer can't see him. I told him a deer may be 500 yards through the woods watching you, and you will never see him. To this day he has never killed a mature buck. Every now and then he gets lucky and a young and dumb deer will mess up and get close enough to him. I tell him it's all good because he's leaving the big mature bucks for me.. lol.
It's always amazed me as to how people think a mature and or rutting buck is a super deer that has this mythical power over his whole habitat. I'm too old to be climbing in stands anymore but I do occasionally use my old Texas stand I've had sitting in the same spot for 30 years. I've killed many nice mature bucks out of that stand and all of what you said is true and really makes sense when you think about it. I've never worried about urinating in the woods and on two occasions can remember having to stop in the middle of what I was doing to pick up the rifle because of a buck walking within 30 feet of me. Hell I've had coyotes do the same thing. I don't buy cover scents but I'm careful and not rolling around the brush so I just try to watch my wind directions. I'm a big fan of changing spots each year and not get hung up on hunting the same spot every year as deer move. I do agree with you on scents, wind directions concerning bedding and does with young. I've got one old doe I feed every day and she's damn near tame. She always has 2 little ones and has for every year I have seen her. She's got to be 8 this year. My only real deer concern as I get older is the amount we've lost to coyotes. I'm seeing alot less fawns over the last 5 years and it's really starting to show in the populations. I can't seem to kill enough of them to make much difference. I've see 5 this year while hunting and those on a twenty acre tract.
Great feedback Kirby, and experience level! Sounds like we have a lot in common with the way we hunt. What is different with a mature buck to me is that he becomes more if an independent thinker. He makes decisions often on hi own and becomes a lot more unpredictable than doe family groups...which are herd mentality creatures. Much easier to define movements with doe family groups. Just different creatures almost. Not mythical for sure, lol...just a lot different! Really appreciate the comments Kirby, have a happy New Year!
Real good vid once again!! Thanks Jeff!!iv been tryin to get kids to not take a leak until we get back from hunting or before we go just because the last few years weve had alot of ticks in upstate ny and them darn ticks seem to like it down there lol. 2 of my kids got ticks a couple weeks apart.
Have you very much Dan! Ha, man that is so true...GREAT point, ticks are no joke! Real bummer for the kids. You guys have a Merry Christmas...always appreciate your feedback and I look forward to it in the New Year!
Jeff, I've watched MANY of your videos and read a huge amount of your things ( Along with many other Deer and Habitat managers) and have always been VERY impressed/ interested in your viewpoints....probably more than any of the other deer/habitat managers around. Heres my one "hang up or issue". In Basically EVERY SINGLE video you feel the need to tell everyone how long you've done everything or that you did it first. I get it to a degree. But in EVERY business, including deer/habitat management, length of time doing something DOES NOT automatically mean more knowledge...more success...or being "better" at something. If that was the case my father, who deer hunted, and yes even did what they called " deer plantings" 40 years ago, would automatically be a better deer hunter or deer/habitat manager than myself...or even YOU. Anyway, just a sidetone for you. I thoroughly enjoy your videos....keep up ht great work. !!!
I can appreciate that for sure, thanks for the comments! The problem is that everyone is an expert when it comes to hunting. Everyone has a CZcams channel. The reason I deliver my experience because this is purely a teaching channel. Of course we get into a good discussion but but when I'm here to teach and I want food to know the level of experience that I have. I am proud of that experience. You can count on 1 hand the number of people with this level of experience. I want people to know that. There are so, so many bad opinions out there. Experience matters greatly in this world, when it comes to creating contract that matters. Content that should be listened too or trade or viewed. Most habitat managers...even many well know names...work on 20 parcels or less per year. Many work in one small region. Many don't have a mature buck background or solid hunting background. Successful hunting background. Yes there opinion matters, but most don't have much experience to back it up. I point my experience level it, because I do have the experience to back up my own personal concepts that I have singlularily devloped over decades. I try to help people see through the clutter and I want them to know that I have the expertise to do so. Which is why that isn't the last time you will here my level of experience doing what I do...because I want folks to know that they have come to a source to help them see through the clutter online. That's why I am here, actually. Hope that makes sense!
As far as scent control goes, keeping the wind right is the main ingredient. There is no need to spray the bottom of your boots either. After you take a few steps in the woods, your boots will smell like the woods.
I respectfully disagree! I think it is so important to do Everything you can to eliminate your scent including ozonics! 41 years of hunting has told me that swirling winds nearly always occur and if you can eliminate 90% of your scent it can make a huge difference!! But of course playing the wind is the highest priority!!!
My Grandpa never needed camo or deer calls etc. He was extremely successful in Wisconsin. Just stand by the campfire and walk through a cow patty or two. Scent control solved.
Great video and agree 100 percent with most of. I have been bow hunting since 1977 and have been peeing out of my tree for years. I am a scent free fanatic.Scent free bath, scent free under arm deodorant, Clothes are washed in scent free with no UV brighteners and stored in Hunter Specialties scent free bags, nee high swamper boots and total spray down head to tow and also spray down bow.Nothing I hunt in is anywhere near the public meaning a restaurant or gas station pumping gas in your hunting boots or smelling like bacon. I know if I can walk to my stand and deer can walk in 10 minutes later where I walked and not be on full alert that what I'm doing is working. I believe if you incorporate scent free, being super quiet , go in and out with low impact as you walk and sitting high at a minimum of 25 to 30 feet that it all comes together. Once again great video!!
I have a question about scent control. For the most part, I have seen deer spook because of human scent or maybe predator scent, not so much from let's say a body wash or a perfumed soap. I had a friend call me up one day spur of the moment and ask me to go hunting. I told him iI had just showered and shaved and put cologne on and the deer would smell me a mile away. Well, I decided to go with him anyway. I shot a nice 8 point with the wind blowing right in his face at 75 yards. My theory is that some scents have no effect on deer at all and only threatening scents spook them. What is your opinion?
Thanks a lot Scott that means a lot to me! I hope that you like all of the rest too. My playlists are probably the best way to find the exact videos that you want to watch first. Really appreciate it!
Deer season is this weekend for me and we seen a huge buck around our blind today and every time there is a buck on here I start getting the buck feels
Agree about human pee. Had to go, and getting back down was going to be loud and slow. Decided to pee off the stand , thought I blew my hunt . Had 3 all over it under me.
Howdy from Sarasota Fl. Nice vide well put together. I just subscribe to your channel glad I found you. When I first started bow hunting I myth busted my buddy on a few things down here in South Florida nice to see that you’re doing that on your vid. I’ve taken serval doe and wild boar but have never had a buck present it self to me mostly because I have to hunt on wildlife management areas. Haven’t hunted in three years as well And you’re giving me the bug.
That's great to hear from you down in FL...hey, FL sounds pretty good about right now! Lol. Well I appreciate all of your feedback and most of all that you are getting the bug to hunt again. I hope the info helps and that it also gets you successfully back into the woods!
Big fan of the channel, any thoughts on black bows in tree stand or spot and stalk. I know there is a benefit in ground blind but is a camo bow needed for hunting. Merry christmas
Great question and I would prefer a camo bow for stalking...I don't think it would make a difference in the stand. While any solid color would seem to be a disadvantage to me, I don't think a bow in a treestands is bad at all...probably looks like a branch to a deer. On the ground I can see it sticking out more but so skinny...who knows for sure! I prefer camo but I have shot deer with black limbs from treestands just the same Thank you and merry Christmas to you too!
Great video, Jeff! Love the content. I don’t normally comment on videos, but I do want to attempt to clear one point up though. At 0:40 you say “all urine turns to ammonia in 20 minutes”. I’m not sure where you obtained this info, but this isn’t entirely true. Urine is comprised of lots of different inorganic salts & organic compounds like proteins/metabolites/hormones/etc... one of the organic components is urea- this is what is broken down into ammonia (not the other components). It usually takes around 24 hours or so for the average of 3.5-4g of urea produced per urination to decompose into ammonia. Just wanted to make sure everyone here knows that, though ammonia is produced, there are other constituents that will be left behind & they can vary with diet/health. These can also be different from what deer are used to smelling in the woods.
Nick Byrd Great points and I really appreciate the clarification. And I should have stressed that urine is broken down into the smell of amonia, shortly. This was per a conversation I personally had with deer research biologist John Ozoga, 15-20 years ago. Basically a discussion of how human urine doesn't bother deer in any way. No need for bottles, leaving a stand to see, etc. Anyways...appreciate the comments and technical details...have a Merry Christmas!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions gotcha! I totally understood where you were coming from, just wanted to clarify. Again, thanks for putting together all of this useful content. The info you share on this channel is second to none! Merry Christmas to you too!
I have pictures of of My cigar smoking and blowing towards a deer from my ground blind and never used scene control. I get my 2 deer every year. with civilization so close to most hunting area's those scents are normal. being still and quiet is the best way to be successful.
We have the same urban issues to deal with... Houses 500 yards away at our backs. Roads 1/4 mile away. The power lines make a constant buzz. I may start to pee off the stand. The whole bottle thing is a pain in the ass.
Hi Jay I really appreciate that! I use a Scott, caliper grip release. I just hang a small rope from it and tie it around my wrist. Been using one like this since the mid 90s...
I was on the fence about peeing in the woods, I do all day hunts and I got to the point where I couldn’t hold it and wasn’t fond of carrying a bottle of piss around with me. I started clearing a spot under my stand to pee. To test deer reactions I have actually urinated while bucks that I was going to let walk we’re within 100 yards of me. It never phased them, even the sound of pee hitting the bare dirt did not seem to affect them. I had a doe fawn and a year and half old buck actually make their way under the stand after the pee and smell it. I wouldn’t try this with a shooter buck in sight but I feel much more comfortable in all day sits now that I can relieve myself whenever I need.
You gotta realize deer just be chilling and they smell cigs all the time, they just don’t see people in trees all the time so just don’t let them know you’re in a tree
Thank you, great video. I'm curious, what was tip #6? And my experience even with pressured deer, pee away they seem more curious than anything, even about the sprinkler sound on the dry leaves.
Thanks a lot Micheal! Man they sure are curious. I have a lot more when I include my habitat myths...but the color of the antlers is caused by the sun or lack of...and buck poop doesn't clump vs doe poop. The size of the pellet is different at times...but for an extreme thought, if any deer ate Mexican food there poop wouldn't be clumped, lol Have a Merry Christmas!
Agree 100% on the peeing from the stand myth...I've actually tested this with deer around me and I've had young deer walk right into the stream and have it bounce off their head. The noise seems to attract them out of curiosity.
Johnny...ha, great test! I've heard of small bucks running into a stand location at the sound of the pee hitting the forest floor. Cool experience and Merry Christmas!
I know I'm way behind on subscribing and watching all of your videos but I'm in dire need of assistance! I have gotten more information from you than anyone or anything I've ever read or watched. I just purchased a 75 acre parcel last year and this will be the first off-season owning it and I'm ready to get started on making this a prime whitetail habitat. I've got a million questions but the one I need to ask first is what app do you use to draw out different plots, bedding areas etc? I seen you use it in one of your other videos.
I’ve been busted by deer before for smell. They come in close, never see me and then suddenly something spooks them and they take off. No noises were made and the deer wasn’t even looking toward my general area. No doubt that deer smelled me and took off. Doesn’t happen often but if there’s no wind blowing and they smell something unnatural then it’ll spook them (also depends where you hunt)
I switch dip from regular copenhagen non-hunting season to wintergreen cop during hunting (I know I know cancer...blah blah), it's fun to watch deer walk under my stand and lick up my spit.
Thanks Vincent! Josh the Sitka gear is expensive but what I feel is the best clothing on the market...which is why I chose to use their stuff. Built for layering and for bowhunting. That camo is called, "Elevated II". Incredible stuff and I've used it in all weather down to below zero Fahrenheit.
Only thought on the "dry doe" discussion is, if you're in a herd control situation with aggressive doe harvest, targeting unaccompanied does you leave the fawns a better chance to make it to spring.
Adrian Q i once had a buck tear the woods apart surrounding where I had feild dressed a hot doe and spike I had killed. If I had still been setting that stand I probably would have had a pretty good encounter with a big deer.
Thanks a lot Curt...really appreciate your comments and feedback! "Believed a couple", ha...we all have! I will try to keep them coming for sure...shooting a few more today actually 🙂
Almost consistently all of the stories I’ve heard from hunters over the years seem to be they took their biggest bucks while they were not expecting it, for example walking back to the truck or putting your equipment away in the truck and standing around talking smoking cigarettes and not really paying attention. But then you have those who live by these rituals and rules that never even see a buck or a doe. I’ve heard guys who cut timber swear to the fact that as they are running their chainsaws they spot some of the biggest bucks I’ve ever seen and they claim the noise of the chainsaw attract the attention of the buck who is curious to find out what is going on. So the best advice is as with everything, stop wasting your money, stop listening to so-called experts, and just go out and have fun the way it’s meant to be. Because if you’re not having fun first of all you’re doing it wrong. Hunting shouldn’t be a job or exertion I’ll take a whole lot of thinking, just walk out into the woods find you a spot to sit down my tree stay quiet wait for the squirrels and have fun
Great video. I haven't been hunting long, a couple of years only. And i mostly hunt roe deer in here in Sweden. What i've found regarding smell is that as long as i don't smell human i can pretty much smell whatever. We usually take a break and gather to grill some sausages at noon after hunting from dawn. And the smell of fire doesn't seem to spook them, i've harvested roe in the afternoon after basically all of us and the countryside smells of fire and smoke. Also; We hunt buck in august here, and since it's still warm outside i tend to dab on a bit of tar oil to repel insects and mosquitoes, doesn't seem to affect them either. And the first time i took a buck i had climbed down and peed and climbed back up, didn't affect the animals. What i do strongly believe though is that generic human smell; Perspiration and the like gives them a strong clue as to whats out there. Smoke, fire, pee, and tar and most of those things doesn't give them a strong human association. Sound though, oh boy are are they sound sensitive. I was out stalking this Wednesday, found a roe doe and some small ones and was figuring that one small one couldn't hurt, i was about 50 meters from it, and when i pulled back the hammer on my lever action, it bolted. Should have pulled it back slower and more silently. It was just *click* and it was gone.
Great feedback Fredrick! Sound is so critical. I think with whitetails they are very smell sensitive, just because they are so ultra conditioned to associate many people smells with humans/hunters. In particular downwind of hunters...it is game over no matter what you smell like.
If you do not use scent control then when a deer has it's nose to the ground where you have walked into the woods to get to your stand they will smell you. I have had deer stalk me before and I did not like it.
Exactly...great point! That's why I talk about in the video...not leaving a scent trail. Clean clothes to me are way more important on the way in and out of a stand...then on stand. Great points!
@@TRICK-OR-TREAT236 typically not...if they were, tthey would come in from the downwind side and bust you. One of the main reasons you don't want to rattle in high pressure hunting areas.
I agree with everything besides the dry doe thing, one of hunting camps we had a doe 3 years hand running with no fawn. Unless she was dying for 3 years.
My grandfather had a simple strategy. Nobody hunted on his 160 acres in the hills the first couple weekends of deer season. He had two ponds. One in front of the cabin at about 30 yards, and one about 100 yards behind the cabin past the outhouse. Then he would either sit on the porch of his cabin and get a buck. However, several times he spotted bucks from the outhouse. So eventually he got a buck from the outhouse with his pants around his ankles. If that outhouse didn't scare them off..... one tinkle in the woods isn't going to drive them away.
I don't know if I agree with the whole urine myth, the dear hate it when I pee on their heads from my stand
Ha, lol...timing is everything!
Write that down, deer hate golden showers!
@@MrNvanderploeg3 ummmmm, huh? You needed to write that down? lol
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 well yeah like you said sounds good on paper
Roflmao.
I have always wondered about the myth that deer have access to hunting regulations and read them before the season!
Ha, too funny. They sure seem to know when the season begins...when hunters carelessly hit the woods, start baging and clanging treestand setups, leaving their scent around and pulling the spotlights out for pre season shining. They don't even need to learn how to read 😁 Hunters educate them...
Hahahaha, They have their yearly meeting prior to the season. Lmao. To send out the Does first then all small bucks next, to make sure Big Daddy’s Safe.. Hahahaha
Nah...it’s the Bugs Bunny / Daffy Duck time clock in the woods
LOL no PETA announces them on loudspeakers.
I’m pretty sure they tattoo the season dates on one hoof and have a calendar on the other
I am 11 years old and a girl but I’ve never had interest in hunting till this year. I went hunting with my dad once and didn’t see much. I went the next day and shot my first deer it was a big eight point buck. The very next time I went hunting this year I shot another eight point buck. My dad now won’t let me shoot more eight pointers. I’ve only been hunting 3 times one year and shot 2 eight point bucks. Just wanted to share
That's what it's about!
Awesome story and thanks for sharing. Taking my daughter for the first time this year. I can only hope she has as much fun as tou had!!
Callee Gerber; Tell your dad to get your first antlers on the wall ASAP, as soon as that cap dries! You will never forget it! And congratulations, I hope my one year old daughter grows up to be just like you!
Our house walls are already full with bucks from my family so I’ll probably just get a European mount
Callee Gerber; Good choice! The reason I am saying is my first deer was an 11pt with a funny shaped left main beam. It floated around the shed and garage for years before it was certainly taken by some yard guys my mother hired. All I have of my first deer is a single photo. It will be hard to loose or damage if its hanging.
Borrows your buddy’s hunting pack and he leaves a bottle of mountain dew in it score
Ha now that's pretty funny! Hopefully it's at least cold!
Unless he used it as a piss bottle...then jokes on you
Could be pee!!
Used to carry old milk jug to piss in
Nice bro I have done that before 😋
I've had a decent 8 pointer walk to me while I was peeing out of my tree stand. It was looking for the source of the sound. I almost had to shoot it with my junk blowing in the wind.
Now that would make a great deer hunting story!
Man that’s hilarious
Lmao
Me Too !!!
I peed off my stand and immediately after 2 bucks walked in from 2 different directions.
I’m so glad you made this video. So many times I’ve told people these exact things and they think they know better. Experience in the woods easily debunks these myths
“Leading up to its final death...” I wonder how many previous deaths it had🤣🤣
Probably a lot. People swear they hit their mark all the time but never find the deer. 😏
Cat's get nine.
20 years ago on a warm day right at the beginning of the season my dad and I were jigging for bream in a creek. We weren’t camouflaged as I was wearing a white shirt and we weren’t concerned about noise. We choose a spot and started catching fish after fish. We were at that spot for 15 to 20 minutes and my dad had just lit a cigarette when the largest deer I’ve seen started making a ton of noise in the thicket just across the creek. With a 12ga that I now own today my dad drew a bead on the 10pt and he is now proudly mounted in my dads shop.
Deer hunting is preparation and luck. That day was just pure luck and my favorite memory.
The Wrong Thinker thanks for sharing.
Sounds like a beautiful memory...
God bless your Dad for exposing you to both hunting and fishing!!
I have to interject something: Those who claim to be animal lovers and hate hunting don't have a clue. The truth is, hunters love animals 100 times more than those armchair judges. In all the times I've been out in the off season picking up trash in the woods, or planting trees/edible plants, placing salt licks, not once have I run across one of these haters doing the same thing. However, I have run into many hunters doing it. Hunter haters think if the animals weren't hunted, it would be just like a Disney movie. The fact is, left unchecked, they'd eat themselves into starvation. An acre or sq mile of land can only support so much wildlife. If it is overpopulated, the animals strip every bit of food, develop disease and in many cases end up wandering into populated areas because they are so hungry. Furthermore, starvation is a slow painful process. So, what's better: A single kill shot and population management, or slowly dying from lack of food? Finally, if you're so gung ho, by all means have a bulldozer come and level your house to create more habitat. Hunters are the biggest conservationists around. They care about wildlife more than you ever could because in your ideal world, animals suffer. And stop feeding wild animals. It can only be detrimental to them in the long run as well as dangerous.
Great video!
Omg Jesus. I have shot a calf one time drug it cross the fence. Loaded it and skinned it. Shhhhhhhh. My neighborhood had steaks for weeks
Scott McMan harvesting your own meat is literally the most ethical way to get meat. Ever. Most people like to say that hunting is “for trophies” without realizing we eat and use every. Single. Piece. Of the deer. Oh, and they’ll talk shit on hunters while they eat their steak from the grocery store!!
Scott McMan I love deer enough to spend hundreds of dollars and hours hunting them
Scott McMan Not only that truth but the Department of fish and Game that watch habitats animal counts and even diseases. They make the rules of what, where, when and what you can take to keep them all doing well. They create habitat when needed too. Is it anti hunters or PETA and the like that fund them doing this ? No it is hunters licenses, tags, stamps etc... An animal killed to be eaten by a hunter has a much better life that one raised in a fenced area or cage. Harder to obtain wild game makes more respect for what we eat too so F you hunter haters. PETA has filed cases where deer were given ti Indian tribes. The deer taken were put in storage until the case was dismissed. Problem was the storage was not cold and the meat was bad and tossed.
@@brianbirc - Couldn't have said it better myself. By the way, I love the shows about fish and game officers. North Woods Law and Lone Star Law. Those who hate Game Wardens should watch those shows. They would see just how lenient these officers are and how they prefer to give people a break as long as they are honest and up front. I can't stand poachers or those who break game laws in general. They aren't Sportsmen. They are just killers and profiteers. And, while there can be some confusing language on documents, most of it is clear as crystal. So, ignorance of the law is seldom a good excuse.
People say you can't shoot deer while drinking coffee, last year I shot 2 deer with my shotgun at 14 yards with my coffee steaming away right next to me.
Just so dang hard to hold mug and shoot at same time!
Oh fuck I bring a gallon of coffee with me every day and I piss coffee smelling piss and I’ve never had a deer even notice. Sure you can tell when they smell it but it has never scared a deer off
Mr. Sturgis, I wish there were more dudes like you around.
I feel like unless you have hunters in your family, its hard for someone to find an experienced hunter to take the time to lean into new comers to hunting. Thanks for leading the way, brother!
Fabreeze for scent control, they like the spring meadow kind, reminds em of their childhood. #FawnLife
#FawnLife
Jimmy Martin only life to live bro
Haha
I chuckled entirely too hard at this.
I really had an ex-hunting partner that did this!
Jeff, Thanks for another great video! Your channel is under appreciated for its content. You have the most accurate information than any other channel without all the hype! Thanks again for all you do for us deer lovers.
Eric those comments mean a lot more to me that you may realize. Thank you so much and I really appreciate it! I hope that you had a Merry Christmas!
Great video as usual packed with useful information I can actually use. Thanks for your time to help us be better at doing what we love.
That is great to hear Ron! I truly try to do so...heck, if it isn't helping folks than why bother. So I appreciate your feed back and I hope that you and yours have a Merry Christmas!
Jeff,
I was chasing a 14 pt. 5 yr. old, Moses this yr,. and peed off my stand before dark. A few minutes later I looked down and Moses was sniffing and looking up at me, although I was hidden by pine branches. It was after shooting hours, so I just watched and after sniffing for a few minutes he walked off. I was drinking apple juice, so maybe Ted was correct. It was the best experience of my hunting season this year.
Years ago we would get down and walk 50 plus yards. to pee so the scent would not be near the stand, not the greatest action making all that noice and movement in the woods. Grant Woods told me the same thing you stated, that it will totally dissipate in 20 minutes. Keep up the good work.
thanks.....Bob Benson
Thanks a lot Bob and great to hear from you! That is a VERY cool experience. I would think that deer are very curious of urine scent...for sure...I bet Moses was wondering why that nice scent was in those pine bows 🙂
Merry Christmas to you and your family!
I always bring a bottle to pee in!!!! It’s so much easier to drink that way.
My 90 year old uncle stunk and was deaf and loud and killed more deer then anyone I ever met
God Speed
Haha love it
Huh what?!👂
I just hunted my 22nd deer season. My experience tells me that you are right, many of these lessons I learned the hard way. :-) Thanks for posting.
Man that's a lot of experience and I really appreciate the feedback a lot! You are very welcome...
Number 1 Deer Hunting Myth
1. You can beat a deers nose.
Amen Jiggin! All the gizmos and gadgets are a gimmick. You cannot fool a deers' nose. It's been proven that you cant time and again. The human body will always give off scent. Learn to use the wind. It is cheaper and more effective.
I have had deer walk right up to me from down wind. I don't think you can ever completely fool the deer's nose. My theory is that by using good scent control the deer don't realize I'm as close as I am. I used to hunt in an agricultural area. Deer smell people every day and also have activity around them . If they ran away every time they smelled people that's all they would do. We now hunt in a very narrow wooded valley. Deer here are much more sensitive to humans
Adrian Q 100%
john kendall same and I agree. With proper scent REDUCTION measures we can certainly reduce the human scent. The problem is though that a deer can smell one single human skin cell....
john kendall; Years ago on a clear cold morning I was hunting along the Frio in LaSalle county TX. I had worked the edge of a thicket heading upstream and saw a large crooked Mesquite whose trunk paralled the ground. I sat on the horizontal trunk facing upstream with my back to the rising sun. After about 1/2 an hour I panned to my right and nearly came face to face with a basket six point. His nose was to the ground and remarkably was coming up the exact path I had taken to the Mesquite. He walked within seven yards of me and remained oblivious of my presence. Why he did not pick up my sent on the ground? Who knows. But I remained down wind during the event, though not intentionally in this case. I never have used sent eliminators before or since, but conditons were in my favor that morning. I agree 100% deer get used to humans but these deer remained free of human interaction except for the deer season. Forgot to mention, I did let him go on his way.
I had an interesting hunt this year. I hunt in Northern Ontario. Monday was heavy wet snow, visibility was poor and in spite of lots of deer being in the area, I only caught a glimpse of a mature doe with no real shot potential. For the next 3 days it was minus 24 C, with a sharp arctic wind out of the North, and I did not see any deer for the first two days of the cold snap, I changed my strategy on the third cold day and hunted a really wet low area with thick ceders, that is where they were, saw two in the morning, but could not get a clear shot due to the thick brush, and in the afternoon I took a different position which was a little more open but was less favourable for wind. I spotted a doe that was quite a ways out (a little bit of a long shot for me, I wanted to wait), the wind changed and was blowing on my backside, and surprisingly, the doe picked up my scent and was curious, she started slowly my way. She got within 40 yards of me and I could see she was a small yearling, not worth taking to the butcher, so I took a picture of her and called that my shot. Friday, I had no luck in the morning, it was much warmer (above freezing) but still windy and I thought I would try still hunting as the wind might cover the sound I make as I take steps. But again, no luck. In the afternoon, heading back to camp, I spotted two does in an opening but I would have had to shoot in the direction of some cottages, which is not an acceptable shot. So I moved, belly crawled for about 150 yards to change my shot angle. I decided to close the distance a bit by approaching again on my belly, until I was about 80 yards out, I had a large Oak for cover, but to take the shot, I had to come out from behind the tree, I did a little peek and they made me and were gone out of sight in an instant. No deer this year, but I am ok with that, I am glad I let the little one go. No regrets!
Man that sounded like a great set of hunts! Northern Ontario too...very cool! I was Ontario 5 times last year... love it up there and will be back soon. I can really appreciate it the vastness of some of the area!
Great tips as always Jeff you have a merry Christmas an the best to you in the new year.
Thanks a lot Yogi, that really means a lot! And you too...have a great New year!
I don’t know if you read the comments but I’ve been micro managing our home property for like well a long time since I was like 12 yrs old for rabbits back then deer and all wild life! I’m now a subscriber and proud of it I wish I knew you or had this info 30 years ago and love your up front perspective WOW you educated me a lot just when I thought I knew a little I learned a lot and still watching videos from you all thumbs up! we just found your channel my daughter and I love doing habitat management and are learning more every day with your help thank You! I wish to someday meet you in person heck who knows maybe even hire you if I can alright enough just saying thanks. One video I found Awsome was the deer rant you had unbelievable your 100% right and thank you again I buy and plant lots of mixes with so so results no wander mostly fillers especially the sweet beet mixes thanks also just place order for switch grass at local feed store for year’s I’ve been looking for something fir a border that not as permanent as trees bingo done and yes I’ve planted lots of evergreens for borders worked just there kinda permanent. I’m from west/central I-80 corridor of Pennsylvania if you have a name brand of switch grass seed you prefer let us know ok thanks. C . Fox
The clips of deer moving around make me excited for season
Lyle Bonney me too!
Shut up pussy
How’s it going with season?
When I come across a dry doe I use Vaseline
MeriKa Tools lolol
#savage
FBI open up!
MeriKa Tools hahahahahaha! Thank You😂
The pee thing is true. More than 20 years ago, I had to pee like a Russian race horse while deer hunting, so I went up the ridge about 50 yards and had a good one. About 30 minutes later, a big doe came over the top of the ridge, went straight to the place that I peed, and stuck her nose right in it. Never flagged, never got excited. She walked past me, to my right, at about 30 yards. I had the scope on her, trying to grow horns on her. She spread out her front legs and dipped her head to give me a clear look. I think she was trying to say, "Look! I ain't got no horns!" It was bucks only then. She walked on down the ridge.
So many or stories, so little time, lol. Really appreciate the feedback! Crazy how convenient peeing in the woods can actually be...thanks for the feedback!
Great video! The three finger trick is definitely something I’ll be using while scouting this summer.👍🏻
Excellent video. I've been hunting whitetails for close to 60 years. I have harvested at least 100 deer but probably more than that because it is my food source.
I've peed on the tree while watching bucks near my stand just to see their reaction. They never even blinked an eye. Also poured out tinks doe urine while bucks where in front of me. Also, no reaction. I once bought all the deer hunting crap Wal-Mart has to offer, yet, I'd go to my stand and after a few hours, I saw nothing. But, when I got back to the truck, lit up a cigarette, turned up the radio a little, then, here come the deer, while motley crue is blasting the radio lol.
"here come the deer, while motley crue is blasting the radio"
I thought deer liked Judas Priest better.
@vettelover2009 Myself included !! Also have a 900 yard shooting range on my own property ! Much of the area is covered in trees ! When I started shooting back 5 yrs ago it made my neighbors furious !!!! They reported me to the DNR saying I was shooting deer ! Many times when I was out shooting.... high power .... I seen deer . I also seen the DNR vehicles parked watching me. ( they could see my targets clearly ). Their aim was to catch me ! One day I was out shooting and a few deer crossed my target area. Just so happened the DNR was watching that too. Since I had my ear plugs in...I never heard them come up behind me. They tried to charge with shooting deer ! Be careful with your neighbors .... often they have the same idea..... scaring the deer away because of shooting. They get use to it ! Since then..... Ive never had a run in with the DNR again.
I pay Ronnie James Dio in the woods and all the deer gather around my tree stand. Sometimes I yodel and they like that too
@@hairymanonetwo "They tried to charge with shooting deer ! "
I assume you beat the charges. Did you show them a target and say "Look, I hit what I shoot at"?
@@5000rgb They never charged me with anything..just tried to blame me.suggesting I was shooting deer. They could see the target very clearly.... the same DNR guys had been there several times. Just the neighbors kept turning me in.....hoping Id quit shooting and scaring off the deer. To this day they still turn me in. Thats 5 yrs after I started shooting.
I’ve been peeing outta my tree stand for years I’ve had does lay down right next to where I peed
For sure Steve...many times they don't even give it a whiff! Let alone react negativity to it...
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I am 54 I grew up with those old wives tales of so much bad info lol ! Scent control is by far the best info and you need to have a plan! But I wonder why pee doesn’t send out alarm alert but you sweat and get a lil bo in the wind and deer freak out ! But I know that my deer on my land don’t freak out to my scent I’m out there cutting firewood fishing planting food plots staying in trappers cabin swimming in pond ride 4 wheelers shoot guns ! I just wear my normal stuff to hunt on my property. Swear I could use diesel fuel as a cover scent lol bar oil mixed fuel all would work lol.
@@stevedingman474 great points Steve...I think they truly can become conditioned for better or worse.
The hardest deer is the mature buck. He just doesn't seem to be around enough to become conditioned a lot of the time...
I call does, fawns and young bucks the great deceivers! They can lull a hunter into thinking deer in general can get used to people in some way...when a mature hucks rarely does.
Thanks for the comments Steve and have a happy new year!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I agree but a old wise doe can be equally difficult not so much in hunting her but her being alert to your presence and warning other deer your in area ! They can be wicked smart!
@@stevedingman474 oh they sure can Steve, great point! I find they are a lot easier to pattern and hunt...but when it comes time to make the shot you better be very quiet and not move much! Going out with my 13 year old son Sam tonight for any deer with the crossbow...hoping he can shoot a doe but in all honesty a young buck may be an easier target to shoot for him!
Great information, been hunting Eastern Whitetail for years and there is always something to learn. Great video of those beautiful critters..are they not wonderful. Sometimes I just watch them in the woods for enjoyment
Great video filled with great info and easy to follow! I am new to whitetail hunting I grew up with blacktail in WA, but could you do a video about late season strategies for whitetail or strategies for different parts of the season?
Most important thing is to hunt every day of hunting season at the right time.
I totally agree on all your points. Very well made and informative video. Thanks!
Thank YOU! That really means a lot to me and I hope it helps!
I've always noticed that a doe's tracks are more rounded and, heart shaped, while a buck's track is wider and more elongated!
It's actually the other way around...but even then it's never defined, at all. Bucks travel several times more than does, so their toe is often worn down a lot more. Even then tho, it depends on the terrain, soil, rocks, etc. Those bucks tracks do generally get larger tho than does tho.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751: In my neck of the woods where I hunt (here in Kentucky - Urban/Surburban, Public/WMA - Bluegrass Region), it's as I described.
We grow some BIG Bucks, but the Does (minus a few) are typical large dog size and weight.
This is a special channel. Keep up the great work!
My Dad has literally had deer walk withing five feet of where he took a dump out of his stand.
Love my old does! They keep to a consistent pattern and stay on my land and don't travel for years
Man so true! I believe they are the most definable deer in the woods...so dang consistent. Hey and btw, that shows you are doing a great job with your hunting style and habitat. Random habitat and highly pressured lands have very little definable and consistent doe movement. Merry Christmas!
What attracts bucks more than does?
@@nickterbrack136 does repel bucks for all but about 10 days of the rut. But... unpressured quality cover, food, and s bedding area with zero does...
You bring up some very good points that people should listen to, and forget the books and magazines, except the scent issue.
I have hunted deer for 38 consecutive years. I pee in scraps, I pee out of my stand, I make scrapes and then pee in them. Deer could care less. Deer do not go to school and learn human ways. It's the other way around, we try to learn their ways. When you gotta go, go, and don't worry about scent.
Many hunters will walk right past them when they are bedded and they never jump up. If trying to jump deer off bed, walk in and back a ways on the same path and see what jumps up then.
I have learned this, SIGHT, SOUND, SMELL. If you block 2 out the 3, the deer don't know you're there. Wear solid colors when hunting deer. Black, brown, dark green, or even light green, but make sure the colors are solid. No camo. Camo has features that give you away when you move even slightly.
When rattling, go up wind of a bedding area, not down wind or side ways. The wind will send the sound further down range and increase you chances of raising a bedding buck, or one that may be passing by that you can't see. I have rattled in bucks from over 200 yards away. Bucks will bed where they feel comfortable, and they never pay attention to wind direction. It is what it is.
It doesn't take a big gun to bring down a big buck. .223 on up will do the trick.
Deer tracks are distinguishable from does. Bucks leave flat track from toe to heel, side to side. Does leave an arched track from center to outside, toe to heel in the center, with the center higher than the outside. Bucks have fuller and bigger pads than does, and this is why the have flat tracks. Even young button bucks tracks can be distinguished from a doe even at an early age.
Deer droppings are also a way to tell if a good sized buck is in the area (body wise). Does drop pellets, bucks drop bundles of pellets, or mush, even from birth. The bigger the dropping, the older the deer (and bigger), regardless of doe or buck.
I don't use deer scent cover up, and could care less about it. I was sold on them in my early deer hunting days, but as time went on I figured out they don't work. I haven't used any cover up for well over 20 years now. If a deer is going to smell you, then it doesn't matter what you're wearing, or using, they will smell you. Who's to say the scent you use will not spook them?
On the flip side, I keep my scent exposed so the deer will get used to smelling me in their area. This way, when I am gone they are not spooked. When I come back and should they smell me, they are not spooked because they have smelled me before. Don't use deer scent's or cover up's, be yourself and let the deer get used to you being around.
Trail cameras have revealed they are not bothered one bit with human scent, mine or other's as well, because they walk around and right over peoples tracks and paths minutes after a person has been there and they just go about their business. Spend less time worrying about the deer smelling you or making you out, and more time hunting.
Best way to hunt deer, is to find out where they are and go to them, rather than mixing scents, wind, and locations trying to bring them to you. Remember, you're hunting them, they're not hunting you. Place your stand according to their location, not yours.
I really appreciate the clear, thoughtful, common sense advice from having been there. No loud hype or over the top claims and "check out my merch" plugs.
Thank you
Another great video and as always informative. I started using my own urine the last season to open/refreshen scrapes and it seems to work. I also quit worrying about peeing in the woods and I agree I haven’t seen any issues. On scent control, I do all your saying and this year I added an ozone generator for my clothes bag. That seems to work as well and I wash my clothes much less. Generally now only after a harvest since I am not very good keeping them clean during field dressing! I haven’t had any winding issues this year. Thanks again for your videos and Merry Christmas!
Thanks for the feedback Mark...yes, pee away! Lol
It's crazy but I find the older I get the keys I worry about scent control and the more mature bucks I see and shoot per sit. It really boils down to stand location...and of course not leaving a scent trail in and out of the woods! Sounds like you are doing great and have a very sound approach. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I had a buck walk up to me while I was smoking a cigarette and drinking coffee, after shooting at him and walking around to see if I hit him I sat back down with a cigarette still in my mouth and a 2nd buck walked up behind me that one I got
I took a friend of mine hunting and he wagged a damned metal folding chair into the woods and smoked cigars and drank coffee while hunting with a red plaid shirt and jeans. I told him he wouldn't see anything. He was the only one that killed. He missed with the first shot and dropped it on the second. It changed my whole outlook on "The Scent Commandments" and deer hunting in general..
Everytime I've killed a deer I either have a cigarette lit, or have just put one out. Including the big 9 I shot a few days ago 15yrds from me...as he walked up downwind of me, lmao
Awesome vid! You have inspired me to create my own outdoor channel!
very educational thank you for posting...appreciate it
I've been a hunter all of my life and I am 65 years old so since 10 years of age I have been in all kinds of habitat. To me, the two most important things about hunting are noise that you make and sudden movement. If you are quiet and you practise moving every part of your body in a slow motion when you do move that is the best practise that you can do to help you when you are still hunting. They don't call it 'still' hunting for any reason other than that.
Great comments! And that goes for any method of hunting, in particular stand hunting. No noise...move slowly...be owtient...and hunt with the wind in your favor. Basically...become a predator. I can fully appreciate what you said! Thanks for commenting
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 That is a great comment also. I just wanted to put the top two things to remember. But you are certainly right. If you do all of those things and you don't at least see deer then you are in the wrong place. Move the stand and find another trail.
@@TBullCajunbreadmaker great advice! I find so many hunters get stuck in a bad spot for years because they once killed a buck there. I always teach your best stand should be the NEXT stand you shoot a buck out of and not the LAST stand you shot a buck out of. A short memory is key...
I tried hard to teach a friend of mine that he needed to stop moving around in the stand, and his way of thinking was, if he couldn't see the deer, then the deer can't see him. I told him a deer may be 500 yards through the woods watching you, and you will never see him. To this day he has never killed a mature buck. Every now and then he gets lucky and a young and dumb deer will mess up and get close enough to him. I tell him it's all good because he's leaving the big mature bucks for me.. lol.
WOW ! FROM YOUR PICTURE YOU DON'T LOOK A DAY OVER 12.
It's always amazed me as to how people think a mature and or rutting buck is a super deer that has this mythical power over his whole habitat. I'm too old to be climbing in stands anymore but I do occasionally use my old Texas stand I've had sitting in the same spot for 30 years. I've killed many nice mature bucks out of that stand and all of what you said is true and really makes sense when you think about it. I've never worried about urinating in the woods and on two occasions can remember having to stop in the middle of what I was doing to pick up the rifle because of a buck walking within 30 feet of me. Hell I've had coyotes do the same thing. I don't buy cover scents but I'm careful and not rolling around the brush so I just try to watch my wind directions. I'm a big fan of changing spots each year and not get hung up on hunting the same spot every year as deer move. I do agree with you on scents, wind directions concerning bedding and does with young. I've got one old doe I feed every day and she's damn near tame. She always has 2 little ones and has for every year I have seen her. She's got to be 8 this year. My only real deer concern as I get older is the amount we've lost to coyotes. I'm seeing alot less fawns over the last 5 years and it's really starting to show in the populations. I can't seem to kill enough of them to make much difference. I've see 5 this year while hunting and those on a twenty acre tract.
Great feedback Kirby, and experience level! Sounds like we have a lot in common with the way we hunt.
What is different with a mature buck to me is that he becomes more if an independent thinker. He makes decisions often on hi own and becomes a lot more unpredictable than doe family groups...which are herd mentality creatures. Much easier to define movements with doe family groups. Just different creatures almost. Not mythical for sure, lol...just a lot different!
Really appreciate the comments Kirby, have a happy New Year!
I must say my friend you're very knowledgeable about deer 🦌. I will be tuning in a lot before the opener this October 1st.
Good luck brother 👍, I'll be getting out there my self
Real good vid once again!! Thanks Jeff!!iv been tryin to get kids to not take a leak until we get back from hunting or before we go just because the last few years weve had alot of ticks in upstate ny and them darn ticks seem to like it down there lol. 2 of my kids got ticks a couple weeks apart.
Have you very much Dan! Ha, man that is so true...GREAT point, ticks are no joke! Real bummer for the kids. You guys have a Merry Christmas...always appreciate your feedback and I look forward to it in the New Year!
Should have watched this a week ago. Didn't want to pee in my blind. Got out peed. Turned around and 3 does were there watching me. Damnit. Thanks
Doesn’t matter what you do the best camouflage is being still... Period.
I used a shoot through camo blind as a poncho.
A hugecdoe almost ran into me 😂😂😂
Great Advice! Really enjoyed the video. Thanks.
You are very welcome...hope that it helps!
Jeff, I've watched MANY of your videos and read a huge amount of your things ( Along with many other Deer and Habitat managers) and have always been VERY impressed/ interested in your viewpoints....probably more than any of the other deer/habitat managers around. Heres my one "hang up or issue". In Basically EVERY SINGLE video you feel the need to tell everyone how long you've done everything or that you did it first. I get it to a degree. But in EVERY business, including deer/habitat management, length of time doing something DOES NOT automatically mean more knowledge...more success...or being "better" at something. If that was the case my father, who deer hunted, and yes even did what they called " deer plantings" 40 years ago, would automatically be a better deer hunter or deer/habitat manager than myself...or even YOU. Anyway, just a sidetone for you. I thoroughly enjoy your videos....keep up ht great work. !!!
I can appreciate that for sure, thanks for the comments!
The problem is that everyone is an expert when it comes to hunting. Everyone has a CZcams channel. The reason I deliver my experience because this is purely a teaching channel. Of course we get into a good discussion but but when I'm here to teach and I want food to know the level of experience that I have. I am proud of that experience. You can count on 1 hand the number of people with this level of experience. I want people to know that. There are so, so many bad opinions out there. Experience matters greatly in this world, when it comes to creating contract that matters. Content that should be listened too or trade or viewed. Most habitat managers...even many well know names...work on 20 parcels or less per year. Many work in one small region. Many don't have a mature buck background or solid hunting background. Successful hunting background. Yes there opinion matters, but most don't have much experience to back it up. I point my experience level it, because I do have the experience to back up my own personal concepts that I have singlularily devloped over decades. I try to help people see through the clutter and I want them to know that I have the expertise to do so. Which is why that isn't the last time you will here my level of experience doing what I do...because I want folks to know that they have come to a source to help them see through the clutter online. That's why I am here, actually. Hope that makes sense!
As far as scent control goes, keeping the wind right is the main ingredient. There is no need to spray the bottom of your boots either. After you take a few steps in the woods, your boots will smell like the woods.
I respectfully disagree! I think it is so important to do Everything you can to eliminate your scent including ozonics! 41 years of hunting has told me that swirling winds nearly always occur and if you can eliminate 90% of your scent it can make a huge difference!! But of course playing the wind is the highest priority!!!
My Grandpa never needed camo or deer calls etc. He was extremely successful in Wisconsin. Just stand by the campfire and walk through a cow patty or two. Scent control solved.
Yep stand in the barn with the cows for 20 mins before ya head out.
The thing with the dew claws really helped me
Great video and agree 100 percent with most of. I have been bow hunting since 1977 and have been peeing out of my tree for years. I am a scent free fanatic.Scent free bath, scent free under arm deodorant, Clothes are washed in scent free with no UV brighteners and stored in Hunter Specialties scent free bags, nee high swamper boots and total spray down head to tow and also spray down bow.Nothing I hunt in is anywhere near the public meaning a restaurant or gas station pumping gas in your hunting boots or smelling like bacon. I know if I can walk to my stand and deer can walk in 10 minutes later where I walked and not be on full alert that what I'm doing is working. I believe if you incorporate scent free, being super quiet , go in and out with low impact as you walk and sitting high at a minimum of 25 to 30 feet that it all comes together. Once again great video!!
Friends dad would piss on deer beds during the rut. Said he did it just to make em madder.
I have a question about scent control. For the most part, I have seen deer spook because of human scent or maybe predator scent, not so much from let's say a body wash or a perfumed soap. I had a friend call me up one day spur of the moment and ask me to go hunting. I told him iI had just showered and shaved and put cologne on and the deer would smell me a mile away. Well, I decided to go with him anyway. I shot a nice 8 point with the wind blowing right in his face at 75 yards. My theory is that some scents have no effect on deer at all and only threatening scents spook them. What is your opinion?
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Great video. Very classic and sound info. Thanks:)
Thanks a lot Scott that means a lot to me! I hope that you like all of the rest too. My playlists are probably the best way to find the exact videos that you want to watch first. Really appreciate it!
Deer season is this weekend for me and we seen a huge buck around our blind today and every time there is a buck on here I start getting the buck feels
Agree about human pee. Had to go, and getting back down was going to be loud and slow. Decided to pee off the stand , thought I blew my hunt . Had 3 all over it under me.
Amazing isn't it!? Such an old myth...
Well up until now, I’ve DEFINITELY been carrying a large empty Gatorade bottle in my bag to piss in.
Merry Christmas Jeff from my family to your hope all is well have a fun and safe holiday can't eat to see some more videos
Thank you very much Rob, Merry Christmas to you and yours too! I will have another one in the morning...hope you like it!
Howdy from Sarasota Fl.
Nice vide well put together.
I just subscribe to your channel glad I found you. When I first started bow hunting I myth busted my buddy on a few things down here in South Florida nice to see that you’re doing that on your vid. I’ve taken serval doe and wild boar but have never had a buck present it self to me mostly because I have to hunt on wildlife management areas. Haven’t hunted in three years as well And you’re giving me the bug.
That's great to hear from you down in FL...hey, FL sounds pretty good about right now! Lol. Well I appreciate all of your feedback and most of all that you are getting the bug to hunt again. I hope the info helps and that it also gets you successfully back into the woods!
2:48 U.P. Shout out gonna have to give a like for that
Ha, for sure...actually in the UP right now as I type 😉 love it up here. Thanks for the like!
3:13 woah there, those deer making out!
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Excellent video! Was wondering about peeing in the woods. And I totally agree about scent control!
Big fan of the channel, any thoughts on black bows in tree stand or spot and stalk. I know there is a benefit in ground blind but is a camo bow needed for hunting. Merry christmas
Great question and I would prefer a camo bow for stalking...I don't think it would make a difference in the stand. While any solid color would seem to be a disadvantage to me, I don't think a bow in a treestands is bad at all...probably looks like a branch to a deer. On the ground I can see it sticking out more but so skinny...who knows for sure! I prefer camo but I have shot deer with black limbs from treestands just the same
Thank you and merry Christmas to you too!
Great video, Jeff! Love the content. I don’t normally comment on videos, but I do want to attempt to clear one point up though.
At 0:40 you say “all urine turns to ammonia in 20 minutes”. I’m not sure where you obtained this info, but this isn’t entirely true. Urine is comprised of lots of different inorganic salts & organic compounds like proteins/metabolites/hormones/etc... one of the organic components is urea- this is what is broken down into ammonia (not the other components). It usually takes around 24 hours or so for the average of 3.5-4g of urea produced per urination to decompose into ammonia. Just wanted to make sure everyone here knows that, though ammonia is produced, there are other constituents that will be left behind & they can vary with diet/health. These can also be different from what deer are used to smelling in the woods.
Nick Byrd Great points and I really appreciate the clarification. And I should have stressed that urine is broken down into the smell of amonia, shortly. This was per a conversation I personally had with deer research biologist John Ozoga, 15-20 years ago. Basically a discussion of how human urine doesn't bother deer in any way. No need for bottles, leaving a stand to see, etc.
Anyways...appreciate the comments and technical details...have a Merry Christmas!
Whitetail Habitat Solutions gotcha! I totally understood where you were coming from, just wanted to clarify. Again, thanks for putting together all of this useful content. The info you share on this channel is second to none! Merry Christmas to you too!
@@NRBHD thank you very much, that really means a lot to me and I will do my best to keep it coming! Have a Merry Christmas too!
I know piss takes on a whole new smell after eating a couple portions of asparagus.
@@icuabc1235 the cool thing is that it overwhelming smells like ammonia after 20 minutes or so...
I have pictures of of My cigar smoking and blowing towards a deer from my ground blind and never used scene control. I get my 2 deer every year. with civilization so close to most hunting area's those scents are normal. being still and quiet is the best way to be successful.
We have the same urban issues to deal with... Houses 500 yards away at our backs. Roads 1/4 mile away. The power lines make a constant buzz. I may start to pee off the stand. The whole bottle thing is a pain in the ass.
Hey Jeff. Really enjoy all your content. I was just wondering what release do you use?
Hi Jay I really appreciate that! I use a Scott, caliper grip release. I just hang a small rope from it and tie it around my wrist. Been using one like this since the mid 90s...
Great info. I look forward to your videos.
Thanks a lot Kevin, I really appreciate it and I will try to keep them coming as much as possible. Merry Christmas!
I was on the fence about peeing in the woods, I do all day hunts and I got to the point where I couldn’t hold it and wasn’t fond of carrying a bottle of piss around with me. I started clearing a spot under my stand to pee. To test deer reactions I have actually urinated while bucks that I was going to let walk we’re within 100 yards of me. It never phased them, even the sound of pee hitting the bare dirt did not seem to affect them. I had a doe fawn and a year and half old buck actually make their way under the stand after the pee and smell it. I wouldn’t try this with a shooter buck in sight but I feel much more comfortable in all day sits now that I can relieve myself whenever I need.
Ha, great experiences! I say pee away!
Thanks for the comments and Merry Christmas!
Wow I can think of all the times where I held in my pee for hours while in the blind.
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Sorry to hear about those health conditions, man that was out of the blue. 😂 Hope you get better man, and thanks for the tips.
Another great video Jeff. Thanks.
Thank you very Much Jason...you are very welcome!
Man I want to get one this season
Did you get it?
You gotta realize deer just be chilling and they smell cigs all the time, they just don’t see people in trees all the time so just don’t let them know you’re in a tree
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls
Thank you, great video. I'm curious, what was tip #6? And my experience even with pressured deer, pee away they seem more curious than anything, even about the sprinkler sound on the dry leaves.
Thanks a lot Micheal! Man they sure are curious. I have a lot more when I include my habitat myths...but the color of the antlers is caused by the sun or lack of...and buck poop doesn't clump vs doe poop. The size of the pellet is different at times...but for an extreme thought, if any deer ate Mexican food there poop wouldn't be clumped, lol
Have a Merry Christmas!
Agree 100% on the peeing from the stand myth...I've actually tested this with deer around me and I've had young deer walk right into the stream and have it bounce off their head. The noise seems to attract them out of curiosity.
Johnny...ha, great test! I've heard of small bucks running into a stand location at the sound of the pee hitting the forest floor.
Cool experience and Merry Christmas!
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I used to piss on my dogs like this 😂😂😂😂
you pissed on a deers head. savage. haha.
I have been using vanilla extract as cover sent for years with great results
Really?
@@mathewkromeo2934 yes try it
Don't know about vanilla as a cover scent, but it attracts hogs like nobodys business.
@@brushwolf doesn't seem to attract deer just masks human sent
How do you feel about camo skirting around your tree stand to hide movement and your body silhouette?
I know I'm way behind on subscribing and watching all of your videos but I'm in dire need of assistance! I have gotten more information from you than anyone or anything I've ever read or watched. I just purchased a 75 acre parcel last year and this will be the first off-season owning it and I'm ready to get started on making this a prime whitetail habitat. I've got a million questions but the one I need to ask first is what app do you use to draw out different plots, bedding areas etc? I seen you use it in one of your other videos.
Scent control is a marketing scam!! As long as I get to my spot quietly I'm good. I've shot a deer half way thru a joint! I get 3 deer every year.
I swear deer love the smell of weed burning. I've shot so many deer while burning one or shortly after.
Same thing with cigarettes. 4 out of 5 of my deer I've taken while smoking and they came from down wind every time... Doesn't make sense...
@@nathanenglander6496 people need to be informed so these people selling bogus products stop getting rich
I’ve been busted by deer before for smell. They come in close, never see me and then suddenly something spooks them and they take off. No noises were made and the deer wasn’t even looking toward my general area. No doubt that deer smelled me and took off. Doesn’t happen often but if there’s no wind blowing and they smell something unnatural then it’ll spook them (also depends where you hunt)
You are so right about that.I bet almost 100% of that stuff don't work. I stopped buying that garbage, it's a waste of money.
I switch dip from regular copenhagen non-hunting season to wintergreen cop during hunting (I know I know cancer...blah blah), it's fun to watch deer walk under my stand and lick up my spit.
GunnyBB I’ve always switched from grizzly straight to skoal Apple and I’ve spit on leaves and stuff and watched deer lick it off the leaf.
@@swarktv199 it's crazy isn't it? I can't do grizzly🤢..lol
GunnyBB yeah I prefer grizzly over anything. Just stronger for me
uhh sk8 you’re welcome
Loved the video!!! I like the camo pattern you use, who makes it???
He uses Sitka clothing
Thanks Vincent! Josh the Sitka gear is expensive but what I feel is the best clothing on the market...which is why I chose to use their stuff. Built for layering and for bowhunting. That camo is called, "Elevated II". Incredible stuff and I've used it in all weather down to below zero Fahrenheit.
Only thought on the "dry doe" discussion is, if you're in a herd control situation with aggressive doe harvest, targeting unaccompanied does you leave the fawns a better chance to make it to spring.
(I was told by my grandpa), always walk threw the barn first. You know like threw poop works great (still do) (COW POOP) .
For best results roll in it
Especially if that same barn and poop smell is in the woods you hunt and the deer are used to it.
Deer are not afraid of gut piles.
Adrian Q i once had a buck tear the woods apart surrounding where I had feild dressed a hot doe and spike I had killed. If I had still been setting that stand I probably would have had a pretty good encounter with a big deer.
What's your opinion on how far the bucks bed behind the does?
Awesome awesome video Jeff! Love your tips. I believed a couple of these haha God bless you and looking forward to more! -Curt
Thanks a lot Curt...really appreciate your comments and feedback! "Believed a couple", ha...we all have! I will try to keep them coming for sure...shooting a few more today actually 🙂
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@@ridgeraisedoutdoors thank you!
Good information but I find it easier to walk out the front door with a cup of coffee and pick the one I want.
Ha, too easy...but very relaxing!
Almost consistently all of the stories I’ve heard from hunters over the years seem to be they took their biggest bucks while they were not expecting it, for example walking back to the truck or putting your equipment away in the truck and standing around talking smoking cigarettes and not really paying attention. But then you have those who live by these rituals and rules that never even see a buck or a doe. I’ve heard guys who cut timber swear to the fact that as they are running their chainsaws they spot some of the biggest bucks I’ve ever seen and they claim the noise of the chainsaw attract the attention of the buck who is curious to find out what is going on. So the best advice is as with everything, stop wasting your money, stop listening to so-called experts, and just go out and have fun the way it’s meant to be. Because if you’re not having fun first of all you’re doing it wrong. Hunting shouldn’t be a job or exertion I’ll take a whole lot of thinking, just walk out into the woods find you a spot to sit down my tree stay quiet wait for the squirrels and have fun
Sevin Storey I’m a logger I run a skidded for my crew and we see deer all the time deer are very curious creatures and will come investigate noise!
Great video. I haven't been hunting long, a couple of years only. And i mostly hunt roe deer in here in Sweden. What i've found regarding smell is that as long as i don't smell human i can pretty much smell whatever. We usually take a break and gather to grill some sausages at noon after hunting from dawn. And the smell of fire doesn't seem to spook them, i've harvested roe in the afternoon after basically all of us and the countryside smells of fire and smoke.
Also; We hunt buck in august here, and since it's still warm outside i tend to dab on a bit of tar oil to repel insects and mosquitoes, doesn't seem to affect them either. And the first time i took a buck i had climbed down and peed and climbed back up, didn't affect the animals.
What i do strongly believe though is that generic human smell; Perspiration and the like gives them a strong clue as to whats out there. Smoke, fire, pee, and tar and most of those things doesn't give them a strong human association.
Sound though, oh boy are are they sound sensitive. I was out stalking this Wednesday, found a roe doe and some small ones and was figuring that one small one couldn't hurt, i was about 50 meters from it, and when i pulled back the hammer on my lever action, it bolted. Should have pulled it back slower and more silently. It was just *click* and it was gone.
Great feedback Fredrick! Sound is so critical. I think with whitetails they are very smell sensitive, just because they are so ultra conditioned to associate many people smells with humans/hunters. In particular downwind of hunters...it is game over no matter what you smell like.
Humming birds come and investigate when I pee outside. They get really close. Nervous for me close lol. Love y'all.
Nervous why? Cause that hummingbird has a bigger womb broom
If you do not use scent control then when a deer has it's nose to the ground where you have walked into the woods to get to your stand they will smell you. I have had deer stalk me before and I did not like it.
Exactly...great point! That's why I talk about in the video...not leaving a scent trail. Clean clothes to me are way more important on the way in and out of a stand...then on stand.
Great points!
I COULD BE WRONG BUT ISN'T A DEER STALKING YOU A GOOD THING ?
@@TRICK-OR-TREAT236 typically not...if they were, tthey would come in from the downwind side and bust you. One of the main reasons you don't want to rattle in high pressure hunting areas.
To be honest both of my deer I killed last year I was watching CZcams on max volume the entire time but I know being quiet is a important thing
Thanks I hunt in Mississippi some of the hardest bucks u will ever hunt nearly all are nocturnal till the rut
I agree with everything besides the dry doe thing, one of hunting camps we had a doe 3 years hand running with no fawn. Unless she was dying for 3 years.